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		<title>By: Steve B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rick for bringing attention to the public the kudos of the young &quot;men&quot; - the Howe Brothers, Orion and Lyston.

I am a descendant of the third marriage of their father, William Harrison Howe. (They are from William Howe&#039;s first marriage.)

I spoke at the dedication of the Civil War monument in that small town of Streator, IL. honoring these brothers. There were others present who are descendants, one a direct grandaughter of Lyston&#039;s. Two of my siblings, and yet, another who is of a sister of my granddfather, who is also descended from this third marriage.
We traveled from OTHER small towns for the event. (Eventho&#039; my siblings, and myself are originally from Chicago.) My brother, and myself came in from small Tennessee towns, my sister from the nearby town of Romeoville, IL., the direct-descendant from Elgin, IL., and our cousin, from Portage, IN. All are fairly small towns, when we could have stayed in our small home towns for memorials there...we had a purpose in mind, of attending the event of the dedication of the Civil War monument by the town where these young &quot;men&quot; had resided. 
The void of a memorial to Civil War participants was satisfied with this memorial, which was long over due, by the town; nevertheless, now it proudly stands among those of other wars, in their Veteran&#039;s Plaza in the City Park. These two young &quot;men&quot; of that war have been perpetually &quot;honored&quot; with their names on that monument.

My colinear family members, along with myself, were and are, very proud to have been in attendance in this event. 

Again, Thanks for your bringing these two brothers and their notoriety, to the eyes of the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rick for bringing attention to the public the kudos of the young &#8220;men&#8221; &#8211; the Howe Brothers, Orion and Lyston.</p>
<p>I am a descendant of the third marriage of their father, William Harrison Howe. (They are from William Howe&#8217;s first marriage.)</p>
<p>I spoke at the dedication of the Civil War monument in that small town of Streator, IL. honoring these brothers. There were others present who are descendants, one a direct grandaughter of Lyston&#8217;s. Two of my siblings, and yet, another who is of a sister of my granddfather, who is also descended from this third marriage.<br />
We traveled from OTHER small towns for the event. (Eventho&#8217; my siblings, and myself are originally from Chicago.) My brother, and myself came in from small Tennessee towns, my sister from the nearby town of Romeoville, IL., the direct-descendant from Elgin, IL., and our cousin, from Portage, IN. All are fairly small towns, when we could have stayed in our small home towns for memorials there&#8230;we had a purpose in mind, of attending the event of the dedication of the Civil War monument by the town where these young &#8220;men&#8221; had resided.<br />
The void of a memorial to Civil War participants was satisfied with this memorial, which was long over due, by the town; nevertheless, now it proudly stands among those of other wars, in their Veteran&#8217;s Plaza in the City Park. These two young &#8220;men&#8221; of that war have been perpetually &#8220;honored&#8221; with their names on that monument.</p>
<p>My colinear family members, along with myself, were and are, very proud to have been in attendance in this event. </p>
<p>Again, Thanks for your bringing these two brothers and their notoriety, to the eyes of the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Freya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 22:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always happy to see an article on heroes (there aren&#039;t enough of them even in conservative media), but does the implied trend really hold up?

Seven Medals of Honor have been awarded for actions in the wars and conflicts since 1975.  Of the recipients, three have been from cities (Long Beach, California; Lincoln, Nebraska; El Paso, Texas), three were from small towns of less than 10,000 people, and one was from a large town, of a little under 100,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always happy to see an article on heroes (there aren&#8217;t enough of them even in conservative media), but does the implied trend really hold up?</p>
<p>Seven Medals of Honor have been awarded for actions in the wars and conflicts since 1975.  Of the recipients, three have been from cities (Long Beach, California; Lincoln, Nebraska; El Paso, Texas), three were from small towns of less than 10,000 people, and one was from a large town, of a little under 100,000.</p>
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		<title>By: john from cinncinatti</title>
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		<dc:creator>john from cinncinatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the boys in Iraq and Afghanistan are making the older guys proud, as the one trooper said &quot;living the legend&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the boys in Iraq and Afghanistan are making the older guys proud, as the one trooper said &#8220;living the legend&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: john from cinncinatti</title>
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		<dc:creator>john from cinncinatti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>up until recently the demographics of America was rural. so where else are they going to come from. that being said, small town America is like the child within us. i remember delivering the Sunday newspaper and stopping in the middle of the blvd, and shooting the breeze with other newspaper boys for 10 15 minutes without a car coming by. try that now and i&#039;d probably get run over and if i didn&#039;t i&#039;d get swore at. we just wanted to be like our fathers who fought in WW11, and our kids want to make grandpa proud. the farm has been gone for 40 years now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>up until recently the demographics of America was rural. so where else are they going to come from. that being said, small town America is like the child within us. i remember delivering the Sunday newspaper and stopping in the middle of the blvd, and shooting the breeze with other newspaper boys for 10 15 minutes without a car coming by. try that now and i&#8217;d probably get run over and if i didn&#8217;t i&#8217;d get swore at. we just wanted to be like our fathers who fought in WW11, and our kids want to make grandpa proud. the farm has been gone for 40 years now.</p>
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		<title>By: gordo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oscar, you are a fool, but note, because of the sacrifice of many small towners your right to be a fool is protected, as is my right to respond to your foolish remarks. One of the foolish things you said was that small town schools were lousy.  Really? How about the quality of schools in big cities like Washington DC, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc etc.  Not only do many small towns provide better education than many big cities (why else would those with means put their precious little kids in private schools?) if I had to choose to have my kids educated in a small town or big city, its no choice.  Its a sad day when an American dumps on the heart of America, but only a fool would do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oscar, you are a fool, but note, because of the sacrifice of many small towners your right to be a fool is protected, as is my right to respond to your foolish remarks. One of the foolish things you said was that small town schools were lousy.  Really? How about the quality of schools in big cities like Washington DC, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc etc.  Not only do many small towns provide better education than many big cities (why else would those with means put their precious little kids in private schools?) if I had to choose to have my kids educated in a small town or big city, its no choice.  Its a sad day when an American dumps on the heart of America, but only a fool would do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in MI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More culture war bull****. Just keep dividing the country up into good and bad, right and left. Soon there&#039;ll be nothing left. 
I served with soldiers from small towns, NYC, Puerto Rico, even Micronesia and every one of them showed courage and patriotism that should be celebrated. But you get your jollys by pointing out that Medal of Honor recipients are statistically more likely to come from small towns and making vague inferences about character. 
It&#039;s things like this that drive reasonable, rational people away from the conservative movement. You&#039;re hurting the side you&#039;re trying to help and you&#039;re hurting the country overall with this childish nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More culture war bull****. Just keep dividing the country up into good and bad, right and left. Soon there&#8217;ll be nothing left.<br />
I served with soldiers from small towns, NYC, Puerto Rico, even Micronesia and every one of them showed courage and patriotism that should be celebrated. But you get your jollys by pointing out that Medal of Honor recipients are statistically more likely to come from small towns and making vague inferences about character.<br />
It&#8217;s things like this that drive reasonable, rational people away from the conservative movement. You&#8217;re hurting the side you&#8217;re trying to help and you&#8217;re hurting the country overall with this childish nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuckt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Wao, I do extend the courtesy of believing whatever they want to other people; what I won&#039;t do is let them get away with disparaging others for likewise believing the way they want, i.e. believing that terrorists want to kill us, that beheadings are unacceptable, that NK shouldn&#039;t have a nuclear weapon, that Israel should be allowed to exist, etc.

Unicorns &amp; the rapture?  Those are right up there with believing that folks in the heartland of the U.S. &quot;have been taught to devalue the life [sic] of non-Americans.&quot;  You&#039;re free to believe it; I&#039;m free to cite facts proving otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Wao, I do extend the courtesy of believing whatever they want to other people; what I won&#8217;t do is let them get away with disparaging others for likewise believing the way they want, i.e. believing that terrorists want to kill us, that beheadings are unacceptable, that NK shouldn&#8217;t have a nuclear weapon, that Israel should be allowed to exist, etc.</p>
<p>Unicorns &amp; the rapture?  Those are right up there with believing that folks in the heartland of the U.S. &#8220;have been taught to devalue the life [sic] of non-Americans.&#8221;  You&#8217;re free to believe it; I&#8217;m free to cite facts proving otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: JFP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Oscar Wao. The world just isn&#039;t the way you think it is. People like you imagine that small-town America, or Republicans, are some special evil, but in fact most of the world is just like them, or worse.

You let in a bunch of immigrants and insist that they be allowed to keep their culture. And guess what? They vote against gay marriage.

Bruce Bawer, the gay writer, went to Europe to avoid the evangelical Christians and came back with horror stories about the Muslims over there. Pat Robertson, he has pointed out, merely wants to prevent him from getting married, but the Muslims of Europe want to kill him.

I spent a month in Egypt recently, and I was told in an orientation program that Egyptians recognize only three religions: Islam, Christianity, and Judaism. So where does that leave Hindus, Buddhists and atheists? Nowhere, but at least Egypt can claim to be more liberal than Saudi Arabia. And while people like you love to bash Israel and laud the Palestinians, that is only because of what you perceive to be oppression of the latter by the former. If you ignore that and simply look at the two societies, you would be horror-struck by the bigotry, sexism and homophobia of the Palestinians.

And guess what the Japanese did to the Chinese in the 1930s? Or what a progressive like Pol Pot did to his own people?

It&#039;s been said that if Europe had a democracy like ours instead of being run by elites, they would have the death penalty and execute people just as much as we do. And by the way, European soccer games these days have had so many ugly racial incidents that the soccer authorities have had to run a campaign against racism.

There is no good reason to bash small-town America as something uniquely evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Oscar Wao. The world just isn&#8217;t the way you think it is. People like you imagine that small-town America, or Republicans, are some special evil, but in fact most of the world is just like them, or worse.</p>
<p>You let in a bunch of immigrants and insist that they be allowed to keep their culture. And guess what? They vote against gay marriage.</p>
<p>Bruce Bawer, the gay writer, went to Europe to avoid the evangelical Christians and came back with horror stories about the Muslims over there. Pat Robertson, he has pointed out, merely wants to prevent him from getting married, but the Muslims of Europe want to kill him.</p>
<p>I spent a month in Egypt recently, and I was told in an orientation program that Egyptians recognize only three religions: Islam, Christianity, and Judaism. So where does that leave Hindus, Buddhists and atheists? Nowhere, but at least Egypt can claim to be more liberal than Saudi Arabia. And while people like you love to bash Israel and laud the Palestinians, that is only because of what you perceive to be oppression of the latter by the former. If you ignore that and simply look at the two societies, you would be horror-struck by the bigotry, sexism and homophobia of the Palestinians.</p>
<p>And guess what the Japanese did to the Chinese in the 1930s? Or what a progressive like Pol Pot did to his own people?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been said that if Europe had a democracy like ours instead of being run by elites, they would have the death penalty and execute people just as much as we do. And by the way, European soccer games these days have had so many ugly racial incidents that the soccer authorities have had to run a campaign against racism.</p>
<p>There is no good reason to bash small-town America as something uniquely evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Mabel Stofales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mabel Stofales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 07:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;On our battalion runs, when my 17-year-old @ss was dragging, you’d see The Colonel chugging right along with those scars on his legs, and you’d be inspired,(or shamed enough), to reach down deep and squeeze out another mile or two.&lt;/i&gt;

Are all your service memories so laden with sexual imagery? With your seventeen year old ass squeezing as another mile of Colonel came chugging in, and oh, those scars on his legs from the canings...my god man, how is it that comment made it past the censors, you old troll. Having a good laugh at these Republican pant-crappers, are you? Pretending to be a military man, while moccking them. They&#039;ll never see through it, I imagine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On our battalion runs, when my 17-year-old @ss was dragging, you’d see The Colonel chugging right along with those scars on his legs, and you’d be inspired,(or shamed enough), to reach down deep and squeeze out another mile or two.</i></p>
<p>Are all your service memories so laden with sexual imagery? With your seventeen year old ass squeezing as another mile of Colonel came chugging in, and oh, those scars on his legs from the canings&#8230;my god man, how is it that comment made it past the censors, you old troll. Having a good laugh at these Republican pant-crappers, are you? Pretending to be a military man, while moccking them. They&#8217;ll never see through it, I imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Reagan's Mother in Law</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reagan's Mother in Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 07:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dblade. Careful, they eat the smart ones.</description>
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