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		<title>By: Matthew - &#124; The Anchoress</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/socialized-medicine-looks-inevitable/comment-page-2/#comment-139082</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew - &#124; The Anchoress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] write about things other than faith, which I&#8217;d frankly like to do more of: (Topical Politics) Socialized Medicine Looks Inevitable (Political Snark) Obama, the Trophy Wife (Topical Politics) Obama, Palin and the Meaning of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] write about things other than faith, which I&#8217;d frankly like to do more of: (Topical Politics) Socialized Medicine Looks Inevitable (Political Snark) Obama, the Trophy Wife (Topical Politics) Obama, Palin and the Meaning of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Socialized &#60;b&#62;Medicine&#60;/b&#62; Looks Inevitable &#124; Health Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socialized &#60;b&#62;Medicine&#60;/b&#62; Looks Inevitable &#124; Health Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Socialized &lt;b&gt;Medicine&lt;/b&gt; Looks Inevitable It&#8217;s almost too late to stop Washington&#8217;s waltz towards government health care. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Socialized &lt;b&gt;Medicine&lt;/b&gt; Looks Inevitable It&#8217;s almost too late to stop Washington&#8217;s waltz towards government health care. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Anderson</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/socialized-medicine-looks-inevitable/comment-page-2/#comment-74847</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JG,

Like so many, you actually DON&#039;T know what the Preamble to the Constitution says or means.  It DOES NOT say &quot;to provide for the general welfare.&quot;  It was:

 &quot;We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.&quot;  

This means defend the nation, and set up a just and orderly system of government, and get the hell out of the way.  NOWHERE does it say the governments role is to take care of the citizenry from cradle to grave.  Indeed the shape and scope of modern U.S. regulation of the lives of ordinary Americans would shock the founders to their very core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JG,</p>
<p>Like so many, you actually DON&#8217;T know what the Preamble to the Constitution says or means.  It DOES NOT say &#8220;to provide for the general welfare.&#8221;  It was:</p>
<p> &#8220;We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.&#8221;  </p>
<p>This means defend the nation, and set up a just and orderly system of government, and get the hell out of the way.  NOWHERE does it say the governments role is to take care of the citizenry from cradle to grave.  Indeed the shape and scope of modern U.S. regulation of the lives of ordinary Americans would shock the founders to their very core.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/socialized-medicine-looks-inevitable/comment-page-2/#comment-73586</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only an insane person would support government controlled healthcare.  Unfortunately, over half the people in this country regularly vote Democrat...so we&#039;re pretty much screwed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only an insane person would support government controlled healthcare.  Unfortunately, over half the people in this country regularly vote Democrat&#8230;so we&#8217;re pretty much screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Coke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Coke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.:  Sorry - please correct previous post, should have read (third para from end, last sentence):  

ALL treatment will be charged to the patient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.:  Sorry &#8211; please correct previous post, should have read (third para from end, last sentence):  </p>
<p>ALL treatment will be charged to the patient.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Coke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Coke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most participants in the healthcare debate have NEVER SEEN AND EXPERIENCED socialist healthcare in action even though some aspects of this cancer have been metastasizing within the U.S. system for decades. 

Two countries stand out for having single-payer healthcare systems as sought by Obama and Hillary:  Japan and the UK.  

Go to Japan, experience the overcrowded, unionized public hospitals, with patients waiting for hours to see the great doctor for 3 minutes, then wait for another hour to make the co-payment in cash. 

Japanese doctors frankly acknowledge that Japan is years behind on sophisticated treatment techniques because the socialist health culture prizes mediocrity and blind centralization and discourages innovation.   

Note that when billionaires or movie stars in Asia get sick, they NEVER get treatment in Japan.  

Or go to England, visit one of the filthy, run-down National Health Service hospitals, be maltreated by surly, untrained staff, join a two year waiting list for replacement of an excruciatingly painful hip joint. If you have cancer and choose to pay for a &quot;non-approved&quot; cancer drug to save your life, ALL treatment will be paid for. 

To be sure, the UK still has a small but lucrative private sector treating billionaires, Arab oil sheiks and families of Labour politicians, similar to the systems for providing WESTERN standards of care for party oligarchs in the old communist countries. 

Count on Obama and Hillary quietly setting up an elite care system for themselves and their Beltway buddies when the rest of us have been herded into union-hell DMV-care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most participants in the healthcare debate have NEVER SEEN AND EXPERIENCED socialist healthcare in action even though some aspects of this cancer have been metastasizing within the U.S. system for decades. </p>
<p>Two countries stand out for having single-payer healthcare systems as sought by Obama and Hillary:  Japan and the UK.  </p>
<p>Go to Japan, experience the overcrowded, unionized public hospitals, with patients waiting for hours to see the great doctor for 3 minutes, then wait for another hour to make the co-payment in cash. </p>
<p>Japanese doctors frankly acknowledge that Japan is years behind on sophisticated treatment techniques because the socialist health culture prizes mediocrity and blind centralization and discourages innovation.   </p>
<p>Note that when billionaires or movie stars in Asia get sick, they NEVER get treatment in Japan.  </p>
<p>Or go to England, visit one of the filthy, run-down National Health Service hospitals, be maltreated by surly, untrained staff, join a two year waiting list for replacement of an excruciatingly painful hip joint. If you have cancer and choose to pay for a &#8220;non-approved&#8221; cancer drug to save your life, ALL treatment will be paid for. </p>
<p>To be sure, the UK still has a small but lucrative private sector treating billionaires, Arab oil sheiks and families of Labour politicians, similar to the systems for providing WESTERN standards of care for party oligarchs in the old communist countries. </p>
<p>Count on Obama and Hillary quietly setting up an elite care system for themselves and their Beltway buddies when the rest of us have been herded into union-hell DMV-care.</p>
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		<title>By: BMoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an ex-pat for 21 years, we are currently visiting family in the U.S. Being snookered into paying outrageous prices at a water park yesterday, I noticed, apart from the appallingly  large number of smokers inhaling carcinogens from $6.50 a pack cigarettes, there were a large percentage of people who were height-weight ratio challenged, to put it delicately. To put it rather unkindly, I was reminded of a Discovery documentary about an Oregon beach during the mating season of sea lions.

I also observed numerous tatoos of skulls and crossbones, apparently quite in vogue, engraved upon large swaths of said jiggly flesh. It all spoke ironically and prophetically as well of the future health of these denizens of this northern East Coast blue state, where the shrill clamor for socialized medicine is part of the constant political background noise. It seems the bottomless appetite in America for having your cake and eating it too, in vast quantities besides, is what is driving the call for welfare for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ex-pat for 21 years, we are currently visiting family in the U.S. Being snookered into paying outrageous prices at a water park yesterday, I noticed, apart from the appallingly  large number of smokers inhaling carcinogens from $6.50 a pack cigarettes, there were a large percentage of people who were height-weight ratio challenged, to put it delicately. To put it rather unkindly, I was reminded of a Discovery documentary about an Oregon beach during the mating season of sea lions.</p>
<p>I also observed numerous tatoos of skulls and crossbones, apparently quite in vogue, engraved upon large swaths of said jiggly flesh. It all spoke ironically and prophetically as well of the future health of these denizens of this northern East Coast blue state, where the shrill clamor for socialized medicine is part of the constant political background noise. It seems the bottomless appetite in America for having your cake and eating it too, in vast quantities besides, is what is driving the call for welfare for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharonsj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharonsj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call it socialized medicine.  I call it finally getting treatment.  I have no insurance and, despite what you&#039;ve heard, poor people do not get free health care.  While the well-off are whining about ideology, the rest of us are dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call it socialized medicine.  I call it finally getting treatment.  I have no insurance and, despite what you&#8217;ve heard, poor people do not get free health care.  While the well-off are whining about ideology, the rest of us are dying.</p>
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		<title>By: dpw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dpw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>single payer will bankrupt the country. period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>single payer will bankrupt the country. period.</p>
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		<title>By: Jbl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And recent history has shown clearly that when the Republicans are in control and occupy the White House, government doesn’t work very well. And they appoint unqualified people to high offices, including the Supreme Court.&quot;

Really, is that true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And recent history has shown clearly that when the Republicans are in control and occupy the White House, government doesn’t work very well. And they appoint unqualified people to high offices, including the Supreme Court.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really, is that true?</p>
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