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		<title>By: Rationalitate</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/somalis-leaving-us-for-jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-177838</link>
		<dc:creator>Rationalitate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignored by the media?  And rightly so.  Somali is a country of moderate Muslims, and the only reason that Islamists become periodically popular is because the US and its allies (the UN, the AU, and Ethiopia) keep on invading the country and supporting warlords.  Somalia has a natural tendency towards peaceful anarchy without the Islamist bend – it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.antiwar.com/orig/ssmith.php?articleid=13972&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;only when the West comes in&lt;/a&gt; and tries to impose a government that a) things get violent and b) the Islamists become more popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignored by the media?  And rightly so.  Somali is a country of moderate Muslims, and the only reason that Islamists become periodically popular is because the US and its allies (the UN, the AU, and Ethiopia) keep on invading the country and supporting warlords.  Somalia has a natural tendency towards peaceful anarchy without the Islamist bend – it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.antiwar.com/orig/ssmith.php?articleid=13972" rel="nofollow">only when the West comes in</a> and tries to impose a government that a) things get violent and b) the Islamists become more popular.</p>
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		<title>By: WestGuard</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestGuard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Korantined&quot; now that&#039;s funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Korantined&#8221; now that&#8217;s funny!</p>
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		<title>By: zanne</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/somalis-leaving-us-for-jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-170037</link>
		<dc:creator>zanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deguello:
 

&quot;I think open borders,unchecked immigration, cheap labor, and multiculturalism are just great! Don’t you? We can expect a lot more of this under the Big O.&quot;
Yep, cause now we have a &quot;Citizen of the World&quot; p.e. to help open up those borders and forget about those stupid legal immigration laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deguello:</p>
<p>&#8220;I think open borders,unchecked immigration, cheap labor, and multiculturalism are just great! Don’t you? We can expect a lot more of this under the Big O.&#8221;<br />
Yep, cause now we have a &#8220;Citizen of the World&#8221; p.e. to help open up those borders and forget about those stupid legal immigration laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11.Kdman...point well taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11.Kdman&#8230;point well taken.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/somalis-leaving-us-for-jihad/comment-page-1/#comment-169881</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think open borders,unchecked immigration, cheap labor, and multiculturalism are just great! Don&#039;t you? We can expect a lot more of this under the Big O.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think open borders,unchecked immigration, cheap labor, and multiculturalism are just great! Don&#8217;t you? We can expect a lot more of this under the Big O.</p>
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		<title>By: cool'n the gang</title>
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		<dc:creator>cool'n the gang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems that the US support of the Ethiopian invasion against the UIC begins to back fire. It&#039;s always the same story. When you think you stop an so-called extremist group a more extremist appears.

Sorry, but that is just a foreseeable consequence of the actions of the Bush administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems that the US support of the Ethiopian invasion against the UIC begins to back fire. It&#8217;s always the same story. When you think you stop an so-called extremist group a more extremist appears.</p>
<p>Sorry, but that is just a foreseeable consequence of the actions of the Bush administration.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We in the West do not have an overall strategy for dealing with the Islamic threat to our civilization.  Our response to that threat must begin with a hard assessment of what the cult of Muhammad is, and that presumes that our citizens and their policy elites get off their duffs and read the primary sources of Islam:  Qur&#039;an, ahadith, and Sira.  Read the scholarly works of noted critics of Islam:  Spencer, Trifkovic, Bostom, Sina, Ibn Warraq, Shoebat, and Ye&#039;or.  Armed with the correct information, it should motivate all but the most self-hating Westerners.

Serge Trifkovic has articulated what I think is the most ethical and effective long term strategy for dealing with the threat.  It lays out a measured and unflinching series of steps.  First, you must expel all Muslims from the West.  No exceptions.  We are describing a policy of containment.  Send them back to their countries of origin or the lands where their ancestors are from.  Close the mosques in the West.  Trifkovic does not advocate genocide as a policy.  However, jihad attacks against the West have to be met with ruthless retaliation that progresses in stages of violent response.

We have a right to defend ourselves and our civilization against the jihad.  They have no right to be here and this point must be emphasized by citations of the historic record and the theological, scriptural sources of their jihad obligation.  If we do not do the hard spade work of arming ourselves with the facts from Islamic sources, we will have a hard time defending our views from the arguments of Westerners rushing into the breach to defend the Muslims.  Be assured, there will be many of those.  In fact, many of those people are far more dangerous enemies than the Muslims themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We in the West do not have an overall strategy for dealing with the Islamic threat to our civilization.  Our response to that threat must begin with a hard assessment of what the cult of Muhammad is, and that presumes that our citizens and their policy elites get off their duffs and read the primary sources of Islam:  Qur&#8217;an, ahadith, and Sira.  Read the scholarly works of noted critics of Islam:  Spencer, Trifkovic, Bostom, Sina, Ibn Warraq, Shoebat, and Ye&#8217;or.  Armed with the correct information, it should motivate all but the most self-hating Westerners.</p>
<p>Serge Trifkovic has articulated what I think is the most ethical and effective long term strategy for dealing with the threat.  It lays out a measured and unflinching series of steps.  First, you must expel all Muslims from the West.  No exceptions.  We are describing a policy of containment.  Send them back to their countries of origin or the lands where their ancestors are from.  Close the mosques in the West.  Trifkovic does not advocate genocide as a policy.  However, jihad attacks against the West have to be met with ruthless retaliation that progresses in stages of violent response.</p>
<p>We have a right to defend ourselves and our civilization against the jihad.  They have no right to be here and this point must be emphasized by citations of the historic record and the theological, scriptural sources of their jihad obligation.  If we do not do the hard spade work of arming ourselves with the facts from Islamic sources, we will have a hard time defending our views from the arguments of Westerners rushing into the breach to defend the Muslims.  Be assured, there will be many of those.  In fact, many of those people are far more dangerous enemies than the Muslims themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Somalis are here because Pres. Bill Clinton, the U.N. Refugees&#039; Service, and Tyson Foods all had an alliance and agreement to bring them here.  It was clearly a mistake and going forward I expect more expressions of jihad to emanate from that community.  We have them here in New England and some hospitals in the region have had to make special accommodations for Somali Muslim women in areas of hospital garb and personnel.

I am not some heartless anti-humanitarian.  But Muslims belong in dar al Islam, not in dar al Harb.  In Europe and North America it was a very, very serious immigration policy mistake to allow them into our lands.  The consequences for Europe are going to be more manifest in the coming decades.  Europe is probably lost.  And in North America we are in the early stages of jihad being waged against our legal and educational establishments by the Muslim Brotherhood&#039;s agents of disinformation.

We&#039;re in serious trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Somalis are here because Pres. Bill Clinton, the U.N. Refugees&#8217; Service, and Tyson Foods all had an alliance and agreement to bring them here.  It was clearly a mistake and going forward I expect more expressions of jihad to emanate from that community.  We have them here in New England and some hospitals in the region have had to make special accommodations for Somali Muslim women in areas of hospital garb and personnel.</p>
<p>I am not some heartless anti-humanitarian.  But Muslims belong in dar al Islam, not in dar al Harb.  In Europe and North America it was a very, very serious immigration policy mistake to allow them into our lands.  The consequences for Europe are going to be more manifest in the coming decades.  Europe is probably lost.  And in North America we are in the early stages of jihad being waged against our legal and educational establishments by the Muslim Brotherhood&#8217;s agents of disinformation.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in serious trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: man_in_tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>man_in_tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure our Republicrat empty suits in Washington are busy THIS VERY MOMENT drafting legislation to ban the return (dead or alive) to the US of any US citizen/resident who leaves these shores to wage jihad.

Oh, that&#039;s right!  They might be called &quot;racist&quot; for doing so.  So, better to do nothing and hope nothing untoward comes of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure our Republicrat empty suits in Washington are busy THIS VERY MOMENT drafting legislation to ban the return (dead or alive) to the US of any US citizen/resident who leaves these shores to wage jihad.</p>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s right!  They might be called &#8220;racist&#8221; for doing so.  So, better to do nothing and hope nothing untoward comes of it!</p>
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		<title>By: man_in_tx</title>
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		<dc:creator>man_in_tx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one major problem with the &quot;return to sender&quot; approach (with which I wholeheartedly agree, of course): Many of the most fanatical jihadists are Western-born (US, Canada, UK, France, etc.) of immigrant parents.  I.e., They are American (Canadian, British, French, etc.) citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one major problem with the &#8220;return to sender&#8221; approach (with which I wholeheartedly agree, of course): Many of the most fanatical jihadists are Western-born (US, Canada, UK, France, etc.) of immigrant parents.  I.e., They are American (Canadian, British, French, etc.) citizens.</p>
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