Comments on: Sonny Corleone in Gaza

By: JP49

JP49 — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:06:15 +0000

Glad I found this site. Israel has every right to defend herself and her people, whether Jews, Christians, Muslims or whatever who live within her borders. The reason Israel had to put a wall up is to keep suicide bombers out because the terror of having their buses, shops and of course their citizens blown to bits had to stop.
Try watching this movie if you can:
http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
Here is the history of Israel. Even though the British supposedly gave the land to Israel, by truth and right it has always been theirs.
http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html
Islamists and terrorists are one in the same. People must stop treating them with kid gloves out of either stupidity like if I talk nice to you then you won’t kill me. Remember Mr. Berg in Iraq and many others that were beheaded on television for their hateful viewing pleasure. If Israel and the Jews are wipe off the face of the earth, how long do you think it will be until we become their next full on target. We have already been the victims of several attacks by these Islamic fanatics. Israel is not responsible for the Palestinian people (There has never been a people called Palestinians). The bombing of the UN school it is found out today on Atlas Shrugs that Hamas had rigged it to blow up.

By: Ann

Ann — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:01:06 +0000

Peter the sub guy: endless patience and restating of historical facts is part of what has to be done, I know. I just get really tired of the high voltage opinions originating in low information brains.

Thanks for your comments and efforts aimed at education.

By: Hythloday

Hythloday — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:53:52 +0000

Sonny’s mistake was responding to Carlo’s beating of Connie with a beating of Carlo – a proportional response that ended up costing Sonny his life. Let me offer another analogy courtesy of Jimmy Malone in the Untouchables: “You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way!” Perhaps Israel could ask our new President for tips from his time in the Windy City.

By: Shooter1001

Shooter1001 — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:35:48 +0000

The self-hating Jews et al will get over it when Hamas is dead.

By: Shooter1001

Shooter1001 — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:33:58 +0000

Sonny did wrong giving Carlo a beating! Carlo should know what happens when you hit the daughter of somebody like Don Corleone. No excuses! No second chances. Carlo takes a dirt nap. No beating. Connie will get over it!
Sonny should know that Carlo would never be loyal, never. Period.
So, what does this analogy teach? Destroy your enemies. The self-hating Jews et al

By: Robert Stacy McCain

Robert Stacy McCain — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:14:52 +0000

#26, I like your analysis. Of course you are right that Michael is the greatest of the Corleones. But the current situation in Gaza is much more like Santino pounding on Carlo. If I'd wanted to go another 200 words, I might have reflected on the Sonny/Michael contrast, how even peace-loving liberal Israeli leaders ultimately find themselves forced to be as hawkish as the Likudniks, just as Michael must take the extreme step of wiping out the heads of the five families (and let's not forget Moe Green). "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in."

By: Hythloday

Hythloday — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:18:01 +0000

Spindok at 37 nails it. Put another way, Israel has an absolute right to defend itself against attacks. Forget the argument that Israel was given the land in 1948. Despite any grousing as to its legitimacy, the creation of Israel is consistent with the origins and principles of the acquisition of land. Israeli attacks may appear disproportionate but given its relationship with its neighbors, its history with Hamas, and how those who hate Israel would capitalize on the mere appearance of a hesitation, nothing short of an unwavering defense is its only option.

By: Spindok

Spindok — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:33:39 +0000

30. Another View wrote:
Hamas and every Palestinian has every right to try to force Israel from Palestine.

Such an interesting statement that I had to comment on it. There is no arguing with folks like Another View but there is a lot to learn from this.

I think the phrase “force Israel from Palestine” is very telling. Israel is a State located on part of the territory often referred to as Palestine. States cannot be ‘forced out’ of a place, only people can. States can change names or governments, but that is not at all what is meant here. Forced out clearly refers to the population.

So why does the author use the term “Israel” rather than the much less ambiguous term “Jews”. Hamas has no trouble stating this in public. The goal is to drive the Jews from Palestine.

So the author here doesnt want to say “jews”. Yet the rest of the post makes it clear. “They have with the Balfour Agreement conquered Palestine.” Well the Balfour agreement and ‘conquest’ referred to cant possibly be about Israeli Arabs, Christians, or Druze. Yet once again the author omits the term “Jews” and refers to softer “they”.

So why is Another View so reluctant to plainly state what he means? Because he cant deal with the plain statement “Hamas and every Palestinian has every right to try to force the Jews from Palestine.” Although this is the publicy stated goal of Hamas who have no problem stating things for what they are.

Such intellectual cowardice. Typical.

Spindok

By: Michael Canzano

Michael Canzano — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:42:53 +0000

Phyllis , Sonny’s sister should give Greenwald her bra.
American Christian Dago Infidel

By: Peter the Sub Guy

Peter the Sub Guy — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:29:14 +0000

30. Another View wrote:
Hamas and every Palestinian has every right to try to force Israel from Palestine.

Peter responds: And there is where you are wrong. There is not now and has never been a country called Palestine. There was a Palestinian territory in the British Mandate of the Middle East prior to 1948, but it had just as many Jews living there as there were Arabs, so what makes the Arab claim any more valid than the Jews? The jews have been in the region for 5000 years, about 3500 years longer than Islam has even existed, so what gives the Islamists any more of a claim than the Jews? In 1948 the British said “We are giving each of you some land and giving control of it to you.” Then placed the Jews on one area of land and the Arabs on another. The Arabs didn’t like that and went to war over the land ,and got their @$$es soundly beaten. Then they went to war again and again got their @$$es soundly beaten. The same thing keeps happening over and over and over. Like the quote attributed to Einstein, “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” The Arabs in Gaza and the West Bank would probably have a healthy, thriving society (and perhaps even their own country called Palestine) by now, and for many years, if they had turned their attention to progress instead of hate and terror a long time ago.