Sotomayor’s Senate Critics Give a Dreadful Performance
And even they, in the end, admit that they don't think she will use the law to change America.
The concept that dominated the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor wasn’t race or gender, as many expected it would be. Nor was it affirmative action or judicial activism, despite efforts by some to make it so. It wasn’t even the nominee’s contention that a “wise Latina” would reach a better conclusion than a white male, despite the fact that Republicans seemed at times obsessed with defending the honor of every white male in the United States.
It was empathy. And, over four days, the role that empathy played in the proceedings changed depending on who was asking the questions and what the objective was.
At first, Republicans on the Judiciary Committee — who, as you might have noticed, were all white males — were concerned that Sotomayor would be too quick to empathize with women and minorities even if meant brushing aside legal precedent and making law from the bench. But when they turned their attention to the Ricci v. Stefano case involving an allegation of reverse discrimination by a group of mostly white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., they flipped the script and demanded that Sotomayor show empathy with the firefighters to the point of brushing aside legal precedent and making law from the bench.
At the beginning of the hearings, empathy started out as a weapon that the seven Republican senators on the Judiciary Committee used to tweak President Obama because it stuck in their craws that he had — while serving as senator from Illinois — voted against John Roberts and Samuel Alito, President Bush’s nominees. Empathy was also a vehicle to raise concerns about whether Sotomayor was secretly intent on making law with a racial bias; in fact, Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, one of the judge’s most relentless tormentors, at one point likened empathy to prejudice. Then empathy became a tool to drive a wedge between Sotomayor and Obama; the president has said that empathy is an important quality in a justice while the judge disagreed. And finally, on the last day of the hearings, empathy was a way for one of Sotomayor’s toughest critics — Sen. Lindsay Graham of South Carolina — to make his peace with the nomination and signal that he might even vote to support it.
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Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a member of the editorial board of the San Diego Union Tribune, a nationally syndicated columnist, a frequent lecturer, and a regular contributor to CNN.com.
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1. Steve:Why is pajamasmedia giving this anti-white bigot a platform to spew his hate and lies?
Jul 20, 2009 - 3:04 am 2. Conservative1:Ruben,
Your racism is showing again.
Love,
Me
Jul 20, 2009 - 3:34 am 3. DavidN:I still haven’t had anyone explain to me, clearly and coherently, how the “wise Latina” statement wasn’t racist, in intent or at least its actual words. Near as I can tell, the only reason it wasn’t racist is because it was aimed at white males. Since we white males are all employed, wealthy, powerful, and influential, no one needs to protect us, and people like Sotomayor can hold their ethnic equivalent of a Klan meeting, telling each other of their racial superiority, and no one shows these white males any sympathy, because of their privileged status.
Well that clears that up. I guess I’m not unemployed, and doing much better than I thought I was. I don’t hold other people’s success against them, and I admire that Sotomayor managed to rise up from her rather humble roots, go to law school, and become a significant person. I don’t see why I as a white male have to support her nomination, just because opposing it clearly makes me the racist.
A few years ago, I heard a radio program where the reporter was trying to refute the conservative idea that American higher education is run by liberals who have an agenda that they wish to push on their students. As an example of this, he (very seriously) presented the case of a university (I think in the South somewhere) where one sociology professor, a black man, taught his students that black people are racially superior to their white counterparts. A colleague of his, across the campus, teaches the “opposite”, that whites and blacks are equal racially. Note the lack of anyone teaching that whites are racially superior: that of course would be banned from campus immediately. The reporter recounted all of this with no sense of irony or understanding of how profoundly out of touch is story was.
There’s another thing no one on the left has managed to do. Nobody over there, Mr. Navarette included, has been able to say (and keep a straight face while saying it) that a white judge, any white judge, could say something like Sotomayor’s “wise Latina” statement, and get himself appointed dog catcher, let alone Supreme Court justice. The idea is simply ludicrous. Look what happened to George Allen when he referred to the one guy as “Macaca” or whatever it was. Trent Lott makes a silly comment about Strom Thurmond at a birthday party, and the whole Republican Party almost collapses.
I frankly have more reservations about her based on her decisions than this silly speech, but the way the speech has been treated in the media shows a lot about our society.
Jul 20, 2009 - 3:53 am 4. Bob:With so many years on the bench and, other than Ricci, no record of really terrible decisions, she’s probably the least harmful nominee we could expect from this President. Everyone who can count knew from day one that Judge Sotomayor would be confirmed. The only thing the hearings accomplished – if they accomplished anything – was to make her pledge to be more empathetic to those for whom she might not otherwise have natural empathy, i.e., those who aren’t Latinas. What the hearings showed is that, while she may be liberal, she is not particularly radical and she is not especially articulate or persuasive. Thus, for Republicans, she’s a great choice because, if her public performance is an indication, she won’t be convincing any of her 8 colleagues on the Supreme Court to change their views. She’s a good replacement for the bland Souter.
Jul 20, 2009 - 3:57 am 5. "progressive"watch:Graham is so far from being a conservative,he couldn’t tell you what a conservative is,but he often likes to act as if he’s one.
No one is a big enough fool and idiot honestly to think Sotomayor won’t use the law to change America. That is what she was nominated to do,to be an Obama-clone in the Supreme Court.
Jul 20, 2009 - 4:29 am 6. Kat in Indiana:Is PJM ensuring that it’s posterior is covered just in case the Fairness Doctrine is shoved down our throats? Can’t think of another reason to keep using this joker’s columns…Considering the quality of the other contributors, printing Navarette here is like inserting a performance by a 6th-grade band that have only seen their instruments for 2 weeks into a concert by the London Philharmonic. They rarely hit the right notes, they have no sense of timing, and they are too wrapped up in their own world to listen to anyone else.
Jul 20, 2009 - 5:03 am 7. vivo:She’s 1 out of 9. If she votes like Souter, nothing changes. So, what’s the uproar?
Jul 20, 2009 - 5:34 am 8. Tolbert:That Rueben Navarette believes that Lindsay Graham is conservative should end any doubt about Rueben’s limited reasoning abilities.
The only people who keep injecting race into the Sotomayor hearings are Democrats and extreme left neo-socialist journalists,(is there any other type?)
Sotomayor has not been subjected by conservatives to 1/100th of the bile and outright hatred that Robert Bork was by Democrats/Liberals during his confirmation hearings.
Ruben wants his pick on the Supreme Court for racial identity purposes. I want to know if she is going to support the 2nd admendment without reservation.
Jul 20, 2009 - 6:02 am 9. Bilgeman:Mr. Navarette:
“At first, Republicans on the Judiciary Committee — who, as you might have noticed, were all white males.”
This surprises and distresses you, does it?
Look around you Mr, Navarette, the majority of people in this country are Caucasian.
I would not expect to see a majority of Anglos in whatever passes for a Legislature in Guatemala, nor would I expect to see a majority of black females in the UK Parliament.
You have a problem, Mr, Navarette.
Jul 20, 2009 - 6:22 am 10. pelaut:Navarette: a little convoluted, but you did the favor of exposing the duplicity and cowardice of Graham.
You’re from San Diego, right? I hope you’re not like a New Yorker who hears Graham’s accent and sterotypes him as a southern racist because of movies you saw as a child. I fear you have done just that.
BTW, have you ever noticed that 325 million North Americans don’t call Santiago “St. James City”, nor Puerto Rico “Rich Port’”, but that 300 million Latin Americans insist on calling New York “Nuevo Jork” and Americans “Estadounidienses”? (and a thousand other similarites)
Jul 20, 2009 - 6:47 am 11. Brutus:As the old saying goes, politics is show business for they ugly.
I think the Repubs actually handled this nomination just about right. Look folks, we lost the election (Congress and President). These are the consequences. The Senate’s job is to determine if the candidate has any flaws that would disqualify her from serving on the bench. Short of a clear lack of credentials or stated intent to violate the Consitution, they really don’t have much cause to object. Of course, this didn’t stop the Donkeys from tarring and feathering the eminently (or imminently to soon-to-be-Justice Souter-mayer) Judge Bork or Justice Thomas. But, to follow their lead is to disrespect our Constitution as badly as they have, and we mustn’t go down that road.
I recall that Alito made some remarks about how his immigrant family ties would soften his outlook on certain cases. Alito is certainly not soft-headed, but he danced the dance that was required of him to placate enough of the Donkeys in Congress (of course, the Onester and gaffe-meister were notable exceptions whose ideology would brook no placating). So now it’s Souter-mayer’s turn to give us happy talk about how the law means more than the racial identity politics she’s engaged in so often in her past. Show biz for the ugly folks!
Jul 20, 2009 - 7:10 am 12. steve:What Republicans need to do is increase their share of the WHITE vote.
The rest will fall into place. They will win every national election if they do. Many Hispanics could easily be brought into the fold without racial pandering.
Sotomayor is a racist. If a politician lacks the verbal skills that are needed to explain this simple fact then they should be fired.
You can go after the NEEDED increase in the blue collar and middle class white vote by pledging that you will END once and for all DISCRIMINATION against them and their families by government, UNIONS, academia, corporate America or anybody else.
It is worth fighting the people who oppose this concept. Those who do oppose this aren’t even worth getting their vote.
It can done by Executive Order if the cowards in Congerss are too timid. The Supreme Court and their lawlessness be damned. A 10 year old can read and understand what the 14th amendment says.
The president has an OBLIGATION to uphold the Constitution. Well do it!
By doing it we can get back the white union vote, blue collar workers and a lot of the middle class.
Jul 20, 2009 - 7:14 am 13. Saltherring:An agenda-driven, incompetent, educationally-deficient racist (Obama) nominates an agenda-driven, racist, judicial activist (Sotomayor) to the SCOTUS. She is given a pass by an agenda-driven, leftist-dominated cluster of guilt -ridden racial-apologists (U.S. Senate) and rabidly defended by an agenda-driven, marginally-capable, racial activist journalist (Navarrette). In all this, it is quite evident that America has become a latent victim of its own failed experiment in social engineering, Affirmative Action. In a decades-long crusade to balance the scales of racial justice, we now accept, even celebrate, the ascension of those who have attained their present stature through political patronage, rather than their individual intellect, accomplishments, wisdom or character. Another sad indictment of the post-modern concept of American justice.
Jul 20, 2009 - 7:31 am 14. John Marshall:Senator Arlen Spector is the new face of the Republican Party.
Senator Graham’s tragic flaw is that he is slow to do the math. Otherwise, he would have switched parties before Spector did.
Jul 20, 2009 - 7:48 am 15. nb:Best reason to reject Sotomayor is quite simple and fundamental: 4 out of 6 of her rulings appealed to SCOTUS have been overturned. This means SCOTUS has already expressed their feelings about her competence on interpreting the constitution. And we’re going to allow her to join SCOTUS?
Jul 20, 2009 - 8:03 am 16. homero:here is something I find indefensable …referring to a quote from Graham ….
Wrapping up his final round of questions, Graham told Sotomayor that he thought she was “able, after all these years of being a judge, to embrace a right that you may not want for yourself; to allow others to do things that are not comfortable to you, but for the group they’re necessary.”
the last line …”but for the group”
shouldn’t it say for the individual ? are the republicans forgetting that what made the USA great is the individuals right to prevent the “group” from trampelling his/her rights??
Jul 20, 2009 - 8:06 am 17. blotto:I don’t want to sound as though I am repeating myself from another post, but if Navarette was really so upset at the number of white males in the Senate, Congress, and SCOTUS he would should be bellowing his nonsense at the Dem party which claims to be the party of the peoples, but is still dominated by white males. If a latina does in fact make better decisions he should be asking his party to nominate more latinas and blacks for these legislative positions. He should be demanding that some resign-now that we know the white liberals cannot make good decisions. But notice he is silent on this. So is it really about color-no, gender-no. But it is about politics.
Brutus: “I recall that Alito made some remarks about how his immigrant family ties would soften his outlook on certain cases.” The key word is soften. Sotomayor has intimated that things need to change because of her empathy toward latinos and inferred blacks. She agrees with Obama that things need to change whereas Alito has abided by the Constitution in his decisions.
Bob: “was to make her pledge to be more empathetic to those for whom she might not otherwise have natural empathy, i.e., those who aren’t Latinas.” And you believe this?? I guess you believed that Obama did not mean to take over the car industry, health care industry, banking industry, etc??? She said what she had to in order to deflect conservative charges and dumb down the American public-further.
Jul 20, 2009 - 8:16 am 18. Robohobo:Sotomayor is an AA and EEO construct just like The 0bamanation. They got the free chip into the game on the backs of others.
Yup, THAT bodes well for the nation.
Her dismal record of 4/6 times being overturned by the SCOTUS should be the marker for any thinking citizen. But we sure seem to be in short supply of those these days.
Here ties to la Raza Unida and la MeCHA should also raise alarm bells. For those who do not know, those two organizations are the equivalent of belonging to the John Birch Society and the KKK for whites, BTW. Racist hate mongers.
Navarette? He HAS to be the PJM AA hire. There is no other plausible explanation.
Jul 20, 2009 - 8:52 am 19. Moho:DavidN, you said this “whites are racially superior”, didn’t you? Do you want to explain to me how that isn’t racist? Or do you want to use your brain and read Sotomayor’s entire speech before you make these ludicrous remarks.
Jul 20, 2009 - 9:30 am 20. Pete:Ruben, go back to your full time job as a coyote.
Jul 20, 2009 - 9:36 am 21. Moho:Pete. Hurray for you. I’m all for this racist coming out of the closet.
Jul 20, 2009 - 9:56 am 22. Ken Hahn:Well, as expected, PJM’s resident race baiter brings us the message that Hispanics are good and any criticism of any Hispanic for any reason is bad. Sotomayor will be confirmed and Ruben and the rest of the lapdogs will spend the next few decades covering up her mistakes and outrageous inability to understand the law. When she helps define political speech with which she disagrees as a hate crime or guts the Second Amendment, they’ll either bury it if they can or whine “how were we to know?” There are millions of Americans from Latin America who are decent honest citizens of this country and contribute to it in almost every way. Unfortunately, hundreds of them are better qualified to serve on the Supreme Court than she is.
Jul 20, 2009 - 10:06 am 23. blotto:Moho: You and not DavidN should learn to read before trying to debate.
And even if it were a declarative sentence, what is the difference between it and Sotomayor’s comments??? You cannot have it both ways…
Jul 20, 2009 - 10:19 am 24. johnt:Ruben, would you care to show me just where the legal precedent is for willful discrimination towards white males? A citation please.
If by legal precedent you mean letting stand the court rulings that you prefer I understand, but otherwise if you please a citation.
And don’t make any log term bets on future elections, your boy Hussien is sinking faster than a turd in the Potomac.
Do pass my regards on to La Raza, speaking of Sotomayor and racism.
Jul 20, 2009 - 10:59 am 25. mhr:I don’t know if to laugh or cry when I read radical feminists and what liberals call “people of color,” referring constantly to “white males” as if that were a fatal condition. Clearly liberals are bent on spreading their group- think ethos. I am an American, the son of immigrants to the US. The overwhelming majority of whites I have met and dealt with have been upstanding and principled,good people. I have known a great many “people of color” as well- some were good and some were bad. These days white liberals tend to pander and condescend to people they don’t know well enough. Conservatives tend to view “people of color” as something less than themselves. A pox on both those houses! I despise liberals for their attitude as well as those conservatives who are too quick to judge on the basis of their own presumed superiority- many of us Americans who have more melanin take a back seat to no one who feel they are superior. I have known too many stupid and ignorant white people to accept the myth of their superiority, and I reject completely the groupthink of mentally challenged liberals. Judge people as individuals.
Jul 20, 2009 - 11:12 am 26. Moho:johnt and DavidN, the point is obvious. One can pull anything out of context and give it a nefarious meaning–which is what I did with DavidN’s remark. I remember that the left did this with Ari Fleishcher’s “watch what they say” remark. Fleischer was a propagandist extraordinaire, but that comment, when read in context was a rather innocuous and well-meaning plea for ALL people to be careful about indicting others because of their beliefs.
Similarly with Sotomayor. Have you actually read the entire speech and understood its context? Only a moron could come away feeling that it was a racist. Though there’s a chance that a moron might have a dictionary to look up the definition of racism, so I don’t want to paint all morons with such a broad brush. Here it is in its entirety. Personally, i don’t think you’ve got the stones or the brains to get through the whole excerpt. Perhaps you’ll surprise me.
In our private conversations, Judge [Miriam] Cedarbaum has pointed out to me that seminal decisions in race and sex discrimination cases have come from Supreme Courts composed exclusively of white males. I agree that this is significant but I also choose to emphasize that the people who argued those cases before the Supreme Court which changed the legal landscape ultimately were largely people of color and women. I recall that Justice Thurgood Marshall, Judge Connie Baker Motley, the first black woman appointed to the federal bench, and others of the NAACP argued Brown v. Board of Education. Similarly, Justice [Ruth Bader] Ginsburg, with other women attorneys, was instrumental in advocating and convincing the Court that equality of work required equality in terms and conditions of employment.
Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice [Sandra Day] O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.
Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice [Benjamin] Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.
However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see.
Jul 20, 2009 - 11:48 am 27. Robert O. Lopez:Ruben,
Enough. Write about something else.
If you don’t like a Republican Party that’s all white males, then write columns directed at showing Latinos everything the GOP can offer them, thereby bringing more brown faces into the Republican Party.
Paul Rodriguez has already left behind the silly pointless Democrat race politics that you are still clinging to.
Please make this your last column about Sotomayor or how Latinos are being persecuted by Republicans. You are becoming a bore.
Robert O. Lopez
Jul 20, 2009 - 12:18 pm 28. johnt:(proud Hispanic conservative! And I don’t even have Caucasian features!)
moho, You’re not bad at name calling and given the bile that eats away at you I can’t say you lack inspiration. But do you have to be so vulgar and dull about it?
I guess by your degraded and gutter standards I have both the “stones” and the “brains”, having read your quote, though whether you know the difference between a stone and a brain is certainly open to question.
Well that takes care of one address the lady gave. One. But if you quench your bile with a dash or two of rat poison and read a little more closely you will see, or should, that it’s in line, though cleaned up a little, with more famous examples.
Why be so angry? Was it my La Raza comment, that organization of racial comity? Perhaps the Hussien sinking like a turd in the Potomac?
We all have our little axes to grind, don’t we?
In any case pick better quotes, that one leaves the door wide open, which I suspect that you realize & attempt to head off with your weak “only a moron” gambit.
Jul 20, 2009 - 12:30 pm 29. Moho:I may not spend too much time with you as you don’t offer much beyond a streak of crudity. You will understand of course.
johnt: Why be so angry? Was it my La Raza comment, that organization of racial comity? Perhaps the Hussien sinking like a turd in the Potomac?
We all have our little axes to grind, don’t we?
Hmm. You’ll find a I prefer overt racism to the sissified safe-words and innuendo that the closeted cowards here generally use. Fire away, I’m actually less offended by it.
Seriously, you didn’t seem to have anything to say about the context of the quote positive or negative–it actually seems like you didn’t even know that the “wise latina” remark is in there either. That pretty much validates the remarks I made about both your genitals and your brain. You didn’t read it because you were afraid to read it or couldn’t read it. I should give you the benefit of the doubt that you couldn’t read that many words put on top of one another, but the jury’s still out about what is the lighter dish–your huevos or cesos.
Jul 20, 2009 - 12:42 pm 30. Phoenix48:I whole-heartedly agree w#11 Brutus; Sessions and crew performed outstanding. I am particularly proud of my own Arizona Senator Kyle. Contrary to the typical comic relief this author continues to try selling, I got everything I wanted and more – short of her tanking her own approvial.
‘What we should worry about is whether Graham and other GOP senators, given their dreadful performance in these hearings, understand that America is bigger than the constituency they represent.
It’s not clear they do, which goes a long way toward explaining why that constituency isn’t getting any bigger.’
Oh really Ruben? Try ’splainin’ why Kyle didn’t loose even a twenthieth the Latino vote (from prior election results) when facing a Democrat (A multi-millionaire STATE PARTY CHAIR) who outspent him 3 to one in the year of Obama? This is with both a vailiant (and very expensive w/some conservatives) lead on immigration reform – much more than McCain – and including Latino voter representation being reportedly up over 20%?
Sessions, Kyle & even, despite disappointing some fellow conservatives here, Graham, did an excellent job of forcing this nominee to account for her judical philosophy and square that with the very active roles w/orgainizations she has CHOSEN to attatch to throughout her career – both before and after joining the bench.
They did not savage her as Ted Kennedy did either Bork or Thomas. Graham was both poignant and eloquent when qualifying what was a forgone conclusion – that Republicans did not and would not – barring a nominee ‘meltdown’ – gather the votes to warrant such a bruising fight.
What they did was fully expose the nominee by way of the media. A media no longer totally in command and control by liberals. Fox, Talk Radio, & the Blogesphere provided ballast and balance; as well as the apt venues to allow for a civil grilling.
What was Sonia by the end? She was Chastened. She will head to chambers with Grahams headmaster caution of unendorsement hung around her neck – tempermentally volcanic – irregardless his vote. She will head there as some posters have noted here – WITH 80% OF HER RULINGS – NOT JUST THE NOTORIOUS RICCI – HAVING BEEN OVERTURNED – seared in the publics memory.
So, Ruben, as a self-appointed spokesman for the Latina Nation – this is your Thurgood Marshall? Not only isn’t she less than half what Miguel Estrada could have brought to the court – who had the misfortune of having both BALLS and BRAINS to go with his heritage – there is a slight difference regarding expertise and experience as far as her now being poised to join the ethnic pantheon.
Is she another Felix Frankfuter? Even half a Brandise? Are you kidding? She did poopie in her pants at what was largely a slumber party. What happened to her legendary fiestiness when Sessions & Kyle & crew put her through the paces? Where was her ’strong Latinia’ act so perfected through the speeches when preaching to the choir over the past fifteen years?
Thomas certainly didn’t hide his anger when confronted by Kennedy & crew. So what exactly was her big moment when even a lecturing Graham upbraided her for garnering a bullying bitch reputation in of all venues Neuvo York? Nada. Not once did she ever object to a single question raised or an even more damaging implication.
She stuck to her script. Don’t be assertive. Don’t be angry. Don’t be Tempremental, and above all don’t be confrontational. Why? Could it be she was taking advice from conservatives already?
This is a neutered Justice. Will she quickly assert herself on the bench? I will believe it when I see it. And am more than willing to bet a c-note that she will be a mousy back bencher for the entirty of O-Man’s first term.
This woman is a follower – an apt bookend to the weird hermit justice (good riddens!) she is replacing. There was none of the intellectual fire that Scalia or Thomas openly displayed, or the reserved confrontational responses Roberts fired back on occation.
Contrary to the writers tired and obvious preconcieved verdict it was Sonia that chose to act, sadly, as if she were just glad to be the 1st in her community to be asked to dance.
We shall all see, just as we shall see in 2010 whether the GOP as too much ’splaining’ to do to woo latinos over to conservative answers Ruben. The most correct albiet unintentional statement in your predictable essay? The part about being afraid…of the GOP…doing elsewhere in the country what they have ALWAYS done in Arisona – that is attract a plurality of the Latino vote.
After all the rest of the country has California as the most striking example where Latino’s have held the longest and largest slice of the power pie in Sacramento. Wow dude! Hows THAT WORKING!!!! Has Cali really excelled at the good life with great ecomomic oppertunities since Beaners raised the roof? As opposed to those awful days of Nixon and Reagan?
As opposed to my fellow posters here I love that PJ Media lets Ruben display his liberal facist junior high political theories. It good to spar with a lightweight to stay in shape.
Jul 20, 2009 - 1:22 pm 31. The Shadow:Robohoho – Of course you realize that Alito was overturned 100% of the time when he was an appeals court judge. It is not good enough to cite information, you have to know if it really supports your position and of course you don’t
Jul 20, 2009 - 2:12 pm 32. The Shadow:Oh and dopey Phoenix that goes for you too
Jul 20, 2009 - 2:13 pm 33. johnt:mojo, time to return to your cell.
I fully realize what I am dealing with so I’ll try and keep it short. But do let go of your fascination with my genitalia.
mojo, the La Raza thing makes a total and devastating refutation of your shabby attempt to make Sotomayor look moderate, my raising it had to do with her, not you.
You are babbling something about me not reading your extended quote, are you nuts? Are we about to proceed to you telling me what I didn’t read and me asserting that I did?
You poor fool, I referred to it, I quoted from it and commented on it & you’re telling me I didn’t read it? You are a pathetic boob.
All you have left is a weak. childish penchant for name calling and the twisted urge to ignore or distort what you can’t handle.
Thanks at least for admitting you like your racism straight, at least you’ve got something right. Now focus on your own genitalia, assuming you have any, and take your mind off mine. You can’t have me. And don’t bother me with more your mindless crap.
P S Sotomayor is a racist, and she seems to have company. But you still have Hussien Obama so enjoy those deficits and tax hikes.
Jul 20, 2009 - 3:35 pm 34. Moho:johnt–You are babbling something about me not reading your extended quote, are you nuts? Are we about to proceed to you telling me what I didn’t read and me asserting that I did?
Apparently, you have dementia too, because at no point did you refer to the passage or quote it–and you obviously still don’t know what it said. If Sotomayor was a racist, I gave you five more paragraphs to quote from to prove it. And you didn’t. Not surprising; you’re a coward, you’re a racist, you’re an idiot–in short, you’d be the perfect leader for this forum if Joe the Plumber hadn’t already beaten you to it.
In any case, you’re right about this being useless. You people are completely and irreversibly disempowered and are soon to be a blip in political history, as the number of people of color in this country blossoms and smothers you brainless and nut-less troglodytes. Have fun with that.
Jul 20, 2009 - 5:35 pm 35. Morton Doodslag:A troll posting above under the grandiose nicname “The Shadow” states:
Of course you realize that Alito was overturned 100% of the time when he was an appeals court judge. It is not good enough to cite information, you have to know if it really supports your position and of course you don’t sic
Leaving aside the appalling syntax, it is hilarious to note that Alito was overturned by the SCOTUS perhaps 4 times in his entire 15 year career. While the poster is clearly an idiot, even idiots can make a good point even if it’s completely by accident. To wit:It is not good enough to cite information, you have to know if it really supports your position and of course you don’t sic
It is also good when citing ‘information’ to make sure it is actually information, and not simply an outright lie put forward to support an idiot’s rambling combative nonsense.
And Navarette remains a race baiting tool — it’s odd that PJM continues to publish his racist tripe.
Jul 20, 2009 - 6:16 pm 36. Patrick of Atlantis:Mr. Navarette’s writing reminds me of David Brooks’ writing. It is dull. It’s amazing to me that he gets paid for doing it.
Jul 20, 2009 - 7:56 pm 37. paul_unalaska:Moho, with your ‘You people’ dig – I’m taking you meant white people, when reading the rest of your comment. And you had the audacity to call another poster ‘Racist..’?
So let me get this straight, the people ‘of color’ (white, peach, etc.,) isn’t a color or involved in your utopia? I thought the Democratic party is one that sets aside differences and finds a common bond. Yours apparently involves disliking white people.
Moho, brush me up on history and present conditions for countries that are overwhelmingly ‘of color’ you so eloquently put. I’ll start you out..
The African continent, South America, Central America, Mexico, most of the Caribbean, et al. I didn’t include such ‘thriving’ countries such as Cambodia, Indonesia, et al. for I didn’t know if you included our Asian counterparts as, what was it, oh yes, ‘of color’.
Lemme see, Mauritania’s Prime Minister cheated to ‘win’ his reelection.
South America, most people have their money in U.S. banks for the economy, unemployment is horrible. Well before the financial crisis hit.
Mexico, do I really need to go into it?
The Caribbean is similar to Africa where all the aid, do gooderism in the world will not remove a totalitarian regime.
Oh, and Spain. How ’bout those unemployment #’s, eh?
Sotomayor’s ..’wise Latina’ comments may have been brushed aside if she hadn’t used it constantly throughout her career.
Your ‘tough guy-like’ attitude on a Conservative leaning blog site is truly pathetic, though. You don’t discuss, but chastise and attempt to belittle is sophomoric. ‘Nut-less’. Grow up..
Jul 20, 2009 - 8:33 pm 38. Meryl:Funny, I thought the burden was on Sotomayor to present herself as a qualified nominee to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.
It never occurred to me (when will I ever learn?) that the burden for giving a not-dreadful performance was on those who opposed her.
She’s a racist. But that’s ok, apparently, since she’s a racist of color.
Jul 21, 2009 - 1:33 am 39. johnt:moho, this is the first time I have dealt with an insane peron on the internet.
Go back to my 12:30 7/20 post, last paragraph and you will see where I mention your drivel of a post and quote. But if you have to alter reality in order to cling to your crumbs of self esteem so be it.
You see little man, all you have is name calling, nothing else. Am I wrong, take a close look at the unrelieved mindless filth that you have vomited.
The most laughable part of all this is the lie you tell yourself about others needing both courage and brains to deal with you.
Courage? To read cheap name calling? Brains, to read more of the same? Brains, when you can’t even read a post correctly yourself?
You give me five paragraphs to prove Fatso Sotomayor is a racist do you. Little pig, I pointed out that she is a member of the racist La Raza, translated The Race. You ignore that, and why should I go on about that nasty racist group. Being a degenerate it wouldn’t matter to you anyway.
Funny how it is you dope, but in your last paragraph you proudly announce your racism, which I already called you on, loud and clear and stupidly blowing the whole non-racist stance. What a fool!
I get it. You want America to be like Mexico. Plenty of murders, blood running in the streets, drug dealers reigning supreme, corrupt pols in bed with the drug lords, poor people trying to crawl out of the country, yeah, a real vision. Some people just love dirt.
Enough of you, you dirty little thing.
Jul 21, 2009 - 7:58 am 40. Frank:Happy enchiladas amigo,
Vaya con Diablo.
Hey Ruben, if I go to an African country, and find that most of the politicians are BLACK, does that somehow mean that those same politicians are racist?
If 80%+ of the population is WHITE, the HOUSE AND SENATE WILL REFLECT THAT!
I don’t know whether you are a malicious race baiting huckster or just a moron.
Jul 21, 2009 - 8:59 am 41. Greg H.:By God, if a candidate for the supreme court can be racist,and the congress approves of her, then we ALL can be racist! Screw that puerto riccan skank.
Jul 21, 2009 - 9:07 am 42. Bilgeman:#40 Frank:
“I don’t know whether you are a malicious race baiting huckster or just a moron.”
It’s entirely possible to be BOTH.
I note from Mr. Navarette’s photos available on the Web, that he doesn’t seem to have much Indian blood.
This is significant in many Latin American cultures.
Compare Navarette’s mug with that of Mr. Fernandez’s or Ms. Sotomayor’s for that matter to see the difference.
For all his caterwauling about alleged Anglo/Caucasian racism, it’s mighty hypocritical to be coming from a Creole scion of a culture that practices the most rigid hereditary racial caste system of discrimination.
And for the record, my wife would be considered “mestiza”…half “Land Grant” Spanish and half American Indian.
Jul 21, 2009 - 9:33 am 43. paul_unalaska:Frank, the vile NPR program has a woman doing ‘Native News’. Her name: Antonia Gonzalez (sp?). Yep, an Hispanic woman doing ‘Native News’ Oy..
Jul 21, 2009 - 9:42 am 44. Moho:JohnT…hit a nerve did I? I have no problem being called a racist, especially when its not been proven in any way. You’ve not shown one racist thing I’ve said here, nor have you shown any racism on the part of Sotomayor–though I gave you the near entirety of the “Wise Latina” speech to draw examples from. As I said, my comment about your obviously low intellect and nut-less sack have hit home, and rather hard. As for the proof of it? Well, your own words speak louder than mine in that regard; I reprint them here with the hope that others find your cowardly stupidity and ignorance as humorous as I have:
You give me five paragraphs to prove Fatso Sotomayor is a racist do you. Little pig, I pointed out that she is a member of the racist La Raza, translated The Race[no, actually. Words have more than one meaning in Spanish too, shit for brains. Who would have guessed.]. You ignore that, and why should I go on about that nasty racist group[questions need question marks. Is English your second language? I'll tutor you if I like. I'm fully bi-lingual]. Being a degenerate [comma] it wouldn’t matter to you anyway.
Funny how it is [comma]you dope, but in your last paragraph you proudly announce your racism, which I already called you on, loud and clear and stupidly [your use of the word 'stupidly' here references your own activity. I don't think that's what you meant, though I could be wrong]blowing the whole non-racist stance. What a fool!
I get it. You want America to be like Mexico. Plenty of murders, blood running in the streets, drug dealers reigning supreme, corrupt pols in bed with the drug lords, poor people trying to crawl out of the country, yeah, a real vision[semi-colons should have been used here]. Some people just love dirt.
Enough of you, you dirty little thing.
Jul 21, 2009 - 10:41 am 45. vivo:Happy enchiladas amigo[yes, you're certainly no racist :],
41. Greg H.:
“if a candidate for the supreme court can be racist,and the congress approves of her, then we ALL can be racist! ”
Enjoy.
Jul 21, 2009 - 4:48 pm 46. paul_unalaska:moho, due to your ‘vast’ intelligence of the English language, when are you coming out with your own book? Oh wait. That’s right, your only claim to fame is to BASH other writers, published writers to boot, and try to pass yourself off as an intellect.
BTW, being bilingual (no hyphen needed, that’s a freebie) doesn’t involve written word, but speaking. LINGUAL is the hint..
Jul 21, 2009 - 5:12 pm 47. Moho:Paul_Unalaska,
due to your ‘vast’ intelligence of the English language
Hey, its not a contest. You don’t have to prove your dumber or more perfectly illiterate than that other guy; though I’ll admit its an impressive showing of bold and unapologetic stupidity. BTW back at you, you could have at least looked up the word if you were going to be a grammar-queen:
bilingual
1. Able to speak two languages with equal skill.
2. Of, pertaining to, or expressed in two languages.
You’d better hope we get some English as a Second Language curricula in your neighborhood school–with a dumb-ass, barely literate father like you, its the only way your kids have any chance of keeping up with mine.
Jul 21, 2009 - 7:23 pm 48. paul_unalaska:hahaha, barely literate. Your overkill with the hyphen and I’m the dolt.. riiiight.
moho, your kids have a mother who finds glee insulting, not with enlightening posts, but with visceral and contempt for differing views. Sadly, your comments pertain nothing relating to the article. TBH, I feel bad for your kids. Your ‘use’ of the English language to an unknown person with differing views.. I can only imagine the decorum you use with your offspring.
Your scathing comments reflect that of one who hasn’t met self expectation and find comfort/ balance in bashing those who differ with you. Yikes!
Jul 21, 2009 - 10:08 pm 49. Moho:Paul, I’ve taught my kids not to suffer fools gladly–especially when those fools are trying to convince Americans that the accomplishments of Latinos, Asians and Black people in this country are nothing but affirmative action freebies. If you want to get into an intellectual scrap about your baseless and ignorant opinions, you’d better come armed. You showed up with a screwdriver to a gun-fight. Indeed, what you’ve proven is that Sotomayor’s main detractors–unlike her–haven’t taken the time to learn how to express themselves properly in English. You’d do well to follow that example–my first language, like Sotomayor’s is Spanish. You’re a disgrace to the millions of Americans out there trying to better themselves and broaden their minds.
Jul 22, 2009 - 8:38 am 50. Dr. Mark:PAJAMAS…..why is this leftist, racist moron a contributor to this site???? I have read his last pro-illegal immigration (the real goal) and his suport of affirmative action (racism) articles. I am a Latino, though my people immigrated “LEGALLY” 4 generations ago, I do not want a dominant Latino demographic in this nation, whom my father and I have fought for! I will take up arms before I see this nation turned into a semi-Mexican culture. PAJAMAS….PLEASE LET THIS CRETIN CONTRIBUTE TO MoveOn or Huffington, where HE BELONGS.
Jul 22, 2009 - 10:34 am 51. ekoloji:Racism is a crime of humanity.
Jul 23, 2009 - 5:07 am