Comments on: Spain, Israel, and War Crimes

By: HP

HP — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:33:51 +0000

Many groups are trying to use Spanish courts= SPAIN IS SEPHARAD=HEBREW TERM FOR SPAIN AND HER YEWS =JEWS ARE SPANISH NATIONALS EVEN THAT THERE WAS AN INQUISITION IN SPAIN REGARDLESS OF THEIR LOCATION THRU THE EARTH TODAY. SOME PEOPLE IN PALESTINE HAVE SEPHARDIM ANCESTRY =SOME CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT ARE ISLAMIC ARE TRYING TO USE SPAIN FOR THEIR TRIALS AND CASES ETC. SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN SPAIN ARE DECENDANTS OF SPANISH YEWS WHO CONVERTED TO CATHOLISM JUST LIKE KING FERDINAND HIMSELF BACK DURING 1492 WAS THE CHILD OF JEWISH PEOPLE HIMSELF AND HIS WIFE WAS A GENTILE. THEREFORE WHATEVER INTERNAL CONFLICT IN REGARDS TO SPAIN AND ISRAEL WHICH IS MAINLY MORE THAN 60 PERCENT SEPHADIM OR SPANISH YEWS ANYWAY SUCH ARE INTERNAL CONFLICTS BETWEEN THEM LIKE FAMILY AND REALLY IS NONE ELSE BUSINESS OTHER THAN THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. ALSO LET’S FACE THE FACT THAT THE PALESTINIAN TERROR INDIVIDUALS ARE VIOLATION THE LAW OF MOSES THEMSELVES BY MAKING THEMSELVES BOMBS AND KILLING THEMSELVES IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR CRIMES AGAINST THE YEWS. THIS SITUATION IS VERY DIFFICULT BUT IN REGARDS TO PALESTINIAN TERROR PEOPLE. LET’S ALLOW THEM TO TAKE ISRAEL TO COURT THRU HER SISTER SPAIN AND SEE WHAT SURPRISE COMES OUT OF THE COURTS. ISRAEL HAS THE RIGTH TO BE IN THE LAND AND BY THE WAY NOT ALL ISRAEL IS ON THE LAND TODAY = I MEAN PHYSICAL ISRAEL SINCE CHRISTIANS ARE SPIRITUAL ISRAEL ALL OVER THE WORLD. IF ALL THE YEWS RETURN BACK TO THE LAND FROM ALL THE NATIONS AND JOINT THE OTHER ONES BY TAKEN WHAT WAS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. THE ARABS WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP LANDS THAT ARE NOT THEIR ANYWAY. SO BACK UP PEOPLE AND LEAVE MY PEOPLE ALONE. FIRE WILL DEVOUR OF THE ENEMIES OF THE CREATOR OF THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. ARABS ARE COUSINS OF THE YEWS BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT ISRAEL DOES NOT RIGHT TO IT’S LANDS.

By: rdereiger

rdereiger — Thu, 14 May 2009 16:13:04 +0000

Spain wants to win the Olympics. what do you expect? With so many muslims, it fisgures that brownnosing fundamentalists (by attacking Israel) may win them a vote of confidence because this so called ´court´ count on the Olympics jury to consider Spain less of a terrorist-risk. SImple yet extremely dangerous when you know what appeasing the enemy really comes to.

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:12:59 +0000

“On the other hand, Stanley Payne, in his entry on Franco in the 2004 Encyclopaedia Britannica states, ” Despite his sympathy for the Axis powers’ New Order, Franco at first declared Spanish neutrality in the conflict. His policy changed after the fall of France in June 1940, when he approached the German leader Hitler; Franco indicated his willingness to bring Spain into the war on Germany’s side in exchange for extensive German military and economic assistance and the cession to Spain of most of France’s territorial holdings in north-west Africa. Hitler was unable or unwilling to meet this price, and, after meeting with Franco at Hendaye, France, in October 1940, Hitler remarked that he would as soon have three or four teeth pulled out as go through another bargaining session like that again. Franco’s government thenceforth remained relatively sympathetic to the Axis powers, while carefully avoiding any direct diplomatic and military commitment to them. Spain’s return to a state of complete neutrality in 1943 came too late to gain favourable treatment from the ascendant Allies. Nevertheless, Franco’s wartime diplomacy, marked as it was by cold realism and careful timing, had kept his regime from being destroyed along with the Axis powers.”

Cher amoureux de la France, see what your beloved Franco had in mind,

http://wais.stanford.edu/ztopics/week020105/spain_050201_franco.htm

and, merci pour ton aide, je progresse dans mes recherches de la vérité

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 21:18:24 +0000

In the mid-seventies, for example, as Spain’s Generalissimo Franco lay dying in Madrid, it was next to impossible to find any knowledgeable person who believed that Spain could become a democratic country without a replay of the bloody civil war of the 1930s. Spaniards were thoroughly convinced that they would do just that. “We kill the bulls, after all,” they liked to say; they were a violent people, and the Old Order would not go quietly into the dark night of fallen autocracies.

And yet, Spain accomplished a seemingly miraculous democratic revolution, paradoxically organized and commanded by icons of the Old Order: King Juan Carlos and a now-forgotten Franco loyalist, Adolfo Suarez. Portugal followed suit shortly thereafter, albeit with some dramatic moments and a few street clashes, but the new model–dictatorships could indeed fall, and democracies could be created, peacefully.

http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2008/08/14/war-and-democracy/

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:02:26 +0000

“Canción del Jinete” Paco Ibanez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juKtuyShliU&NR=1

“Romance de la luna” Paco Ibanez

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qICLxonPoyA&feature=related

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:06:22 +0000

a very interesting video about Lorca

http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/%C3%A9crivain/video/x10vsf_federico-garcia-lorca

a few poems translated in english and french, you’re right translations loose Lorca original musicality

http://www.pierdelune.com/lorca.htm

By: JFM

JFM — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:46:25 +0000

It is not all clear he was Franco’s victim. He was also Primo de Rivera’s (founder of Falange) personal friend, they frequently dined together. Secretly becuase thetr respective followers would have not liked it. And I can’t point you to a number of Spanish intellectuals killed by the Republicans.

Green how I like you green
green wind, green branches
The boat on the sea
and the horse on the mountain
with the shade on the belt,
she dreams at her balustrade
with eyes of cold silver
Green how I like you green
Under the gipsy moon
the things are looking at her
and she cannot look at them

Green how I like you green
Big frost stars
come with the fish of shade
who opens the path to sunrise
The fig tree rubs its wind
with the emery of its branches
and the mount, wild cat,
ruffles its sour agaves
But who will come? And which way?
She stays at her balustrade
Dreaming on the bitter sea

-Buddy, I want to change
my horse for your house
my steed for your mirror
my knife for your blanket
-Buddy I have been bleeding
since the Cabra passes
-If I could, my boy
this treaty would be sealed
but I am no longer I
and my house is no longer my house

(To be followed). It is my own (hasty) translation forgive me for its poor poetic quality. It is much better in Spanish and Lorca also resorts to some flamenco-inspired techniques who hard to translate and in fact, even for Spanish speakers from Latin America they would sound very weird. Anyway I invite you to look for a translation from a professional

The poem is about a Gipsy girl whose fiance seems to be a smuggler or bandit. After being mortally wounded he comes to the girl’s house, telling he wents to end his adventurous life but the girl’s father tells him that the girl has suicided from despair over the long wait. Drunk guardia civiles come looking for the bandit.

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:36:03 +0000

For ‘true’ historians. I suppose you mean people like one of my history professors who told Red Army’s poor performance against Finland was part of Stalin’s devishly cunning plan to incite Germany to war. What I have detailed on submarines in Spain requires more common sesnse and knowledge about basic strategy and logistics than being an expert on ancient Greece.

umm, are you lecturing me ? who’s arrogant there ?

For submarines. First the 1940 Spanish Navy still had submarines and had had them since before the civil war. So 1940 Spain _had_ submarine bases. Anyway you don’t need high tech installations just for refuelling and providing them with new torpedoes. It is nice if yolu can provide them with a bomb proof shelter but it is not a requirement (bomb shelters could have been funded by Germany), Geramn surface ships in France didn’t jhave them and they weren’t wiped out by the Allied air Forces. And that even in 1944 when these were much more powerful.

umm, Churchill with his good intentionned Roosevelt friend’s advices had already nuked what we had as fleat

By: Marie Claude

Marie Claude — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:57:23 +0000

“For Victor Hugo, I am surprised ypu don’t know that by the time he died Proust hadn’t still eaten his first madeleine so yours is not a valid answer to French literature hasn’t produced anything meaningful after “In search of the lost time”.

it was you who quoted Victor Hugo once

” “Who got to bed early?” “Qui s’est couché de bonne heure?” would have brought you memories of “Longtemps je me suis couché de bonne heure” who is the most famous sentence in French littérature.”

well I suppose Louis Ferdinand Celine doesn’t appeal your attention

Apollinaire

Robert Desnos

Albert Camus

Henri de Montherlant

Marcel Aymé

Jules Romains

Max Jacob

Simenon

Romain Gary

Blaise Cendrars

René Char

Henri Michaux

Roland Barthes

Robert Merle

Lacan, Lévi-Strauss, Merlot-Ponty, Foucault, Baudrillard, Bachelard, Bataille, Deleuze, Jean Rostand….

Michel Houellebecq, Cioran, Perec…

not talking of the marxisants, of the nouveau roman…

I’m not a teacher of litterature, though I had a predilection for philosophie ( cycle secondaire, classe terminale philo : 1er prix, yes !!! )

For American inculture given the incredible vulgarity in French TV and your own ignorance (cf Victor Hugo and Proust)

mouarffff, uh, your tele reality shows are cultural LMAO and your info channels aren’t biased … plouf !!!

plus the high number of world class american music formations when French tell of American inculture

who said so ???? I suppose that you select the only negative persons

anyway, the average American knows less than the average French, true !!!

OK, we can’t compare ur production of pop rock musics, you win !!!

it reminds me of those French who after (Rommel’s words) “running to surrender” told of American cowardice.

yeah, you’re very good at bombing, at firing at with big calibers, but not in close-combats, where the French are much more courageous, uh, say, you don’t like close contacts, may-be some fear for virus and dirtyness LMAO

changes de disque, tu n’es pas drôle !

By: JFM

JFM — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:18:21 +0000

Very few Spanish monuments were destroyed by bombardments be it Nationalist or Republicans. But the destruction by left-wing militias was horrendous and it began the very day Alfonso XIII left the throne (1931).

For Guernica. Contemporary Basque press told of 80 killed. Later the number were grossly inflated for propaganda purposes. Hint: The Guernica tree (were Spanish kings swear to respect Basque liberties) wasn’t even damaged.

For Victor Hugo, I am surprised ypu don’t know that by the time he died Proust hadn’t still eaten his first madeleine so yours is not a valid answer to French literature hasn’t produced anything meaningful after “In search of the lost time”.

For American inculture given the incredible vulgarity in French TV and your own ignorance (cf Victor Hugo and Proust) plus the high number of world class american music formations when French tell of American inculture it reminds me of those French who after (Rommel’s words) “running to surrender” told of American cowardice.