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		<title>By: Leo</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/spains-jewish-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-441118</link>
		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should the Goyim always feel the need to be so submissive to the Jew? Its pathetic how far people go out of their way to prove they&#039;re not &quot;antisemitic&quot; (political correctness, a Jewish invention too, see the Frankfurt School). Personally, I care about Christian, caucasian, European culture. That is it. The Jews have never payed repirations for creating Communism and continue to be a corrosive influence on Christian Civilisation. Its disgusting how they milk WWII in which over 70 million, mostly Christians died. As a Brit, I wish we never entered the war. Look how ungreatful they were? With the King David Hotel bombing and other attacks.

Give me Spain over that Tribe any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should the Goyim always feel the need to be so submissive to the Jew? Its pathetic how far people go out of their way to prove they&#8217;re not &#8220;antisemitic&#8221; (political correctness, a Jewish invention too, see the Frankfurt School). Personally, I care about Christian, caucasian, European culture. That is it. The Jews have never payed repirations for creating Communism and continue to be a corrosive influence on Christian Civilisation. Its disgusting how they milk WWII in which over 70 million, mostly Christians died. As a Brit, I wish we never entered the war. Look how ungreatful they were? With the King David Hotel bombing and other attacks.</p>
<p>Give me Spain over that Tribe any day.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter  Van dyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter  Van dyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evrybody hates jews get over it! tomorrow it will zorastarians and people who worship mickey mouse its just a fad so a few people take it a bit far sh**t happens</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evrybody hates jews get over it! tomorrow it will zorastarians and people who worship mickey mouse its just a fad so a few people take it a bit far sh**t happens</p>
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		<title>By: Myra from Canada</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/spains-jewish-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-195967</link>
		<dc:creator>Myra from Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 01:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of the information on Spain and its relations with Israel and Jews.  After watching so much tennis and cheering for Nadal, I&#039;d like to think that he and his fellow Mallorcans are not virulent anti-semites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of the information on Spain and its relations with Israel and Jews.  After watching so much tennis and cheering for Nadal, I&#8217;d like to think that he and his fellow Mallorcans are not virulent anti-semites.</p>
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		<title>By: The Editrix</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/spains-jewish-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-194879</link>
		<dc:creator>The Editrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;From Catholic/Monarchist/Francoist right to Communist Left, the Spaniards are united by one thing — their never-ending, genocidal hatred of Jews.&quot;

Franco did not just not surrender a single Spanish Jew, he actively sought to help Jews to escape from Germany. It was one of the few decent things the cold old man did, but he did it. (Btw, Catholic Italy, too, did more to protect their Jews than any of the do-gooder peoples in Western Europe who delivered their Jews gladly free cattle wagon, Denmark being a notable example.)
http://www.conservativetruth.org/archives/brucewalker/03-31-02.shtml

Yes, it is SO comfortable and easy to think in clichés, isn&#039;t it? 

Don&#039;t you think an apology is in order now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From Catholic/Monarchist/Francoist right to Communist Left, the Spaniards are united by one thing — their never-ending, genocidal hatred of Jews.&#8221;</p>
<p>Franco did not just not surrender a single Spanish Jew, he actively sought to help Jews to escape from Germany. It was one of the few decent things the cold old man did, but he did it. (Btw, Catholic Italy, too, did more to protect their Jews than any of the do-gooder peoples in Western Europe who delivered their Jews gladly free cattle wagon, Denmark being a notable example.)<br />
<a href="http://www.conservativetruth.org/archives/brucewalker/03-31-02.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.conservativetruth.org/archives/brucewalker/03-31-02.shtml</a></p>
<p>Yes, it is SO comfortable and easy to think in clichés, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think an apology is in order now?</p>
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		<title>By: raquel samper</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/spains-jewish-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-189431</link>
		<dc:creator>raquel samper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are 62000 jews in spain,in murcia we are small ,only 600 more or less, but nationally almmost 62000.We are in all major cities all type incomes,not only bankers but military pilots, national police,unemployed,notary,layer,truck drivers,tv personality,housewife,football player.we are in local government.
  in fact spain is the fastest growing jewish community in europe.When the EU was formed ,northern european jews could move anywhere in europe and vote work etc.Many came here to spain,weather jobs relaxed life..its like the miami of europe.Young jewish couples ith kids and old retired couples as well came to spain and particularly Murcia Polaris World Alto Real..We even opened a jeish school in murcia..So now in spain there are 17 jewish schools,5 fighter pilots in the airforce are jewish too. That says alot about spains government. They trust us to carry the defense.We get dirty like everyone else.
The president made comments that are political and not proisrael but in everyday life WE ARE SPANISH jews like he is SPANISH catholic..
welcome to spain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are 62000 jews in spain,in murcia we are small ,only 600 more or less, but nationally almmost 62000.We are in all major cities all type incomes,not only bankers but military pilots, national police,unemployed,notary,layer,truck drivers,tv personality,housewife,football player.we are in local government.<br />
  in fact spain is the fastest growing jewish community in europe.When the EU was formed ,northern european jews could move anywhere in europe and vote work etc.Many came here to spain,weather jobs relaxed life..its like the miami of europe.Young jewish couples ith kids and old retired couples as well came to spain and particularly Murcia Polaris World Alto Real..We even opened a jeish school in murcia..So now in spain there are 17 jewish schools,5 fighter pilots in the airforce are jewish too. That says alot about spains government. They trust us to carry the defense.We get dirty like everyone else.<br />
The president made comments that are political and not proisrael but in everyday life WE ARE SPANISH jews like he is SPANISH catholic..<br />
welcome to spain.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely article, great blogging, fantastic comments. I am very happy to know none of you will be coming to Spain, trading with Spain or (of course) eating jamon. Good. You got it right. No need to refrase what we think of the jews...

So typical, to twist the facts, manipulate the ideas and come out with a totally new interpretation of what goes on in Spain...Nobody hates the jews here, but everybody thinks (well, a lot of people) that the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT is a genocidal and nazi organisation. It is not the same, you see. By the way, you can check my IP, is from Spain. But please don&#039;t target me with trojans, track me with spiders or inform about me on tweeter. I am posting openly and freely.
By the way, I know a lot of jews, heck, even a few of those horrid self-hating jews that happen to criticise zionism too....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely article, great blogging, fantastic comments. I am very happy to know none of you will be coming to Spain, trading with Spain or (of course) eating jamon. Good. You got it right. No need to refrase what we think of the jews&#8230;</p>
<p>So typical, to twist the facts, manipulate the ideas and come out with a totally new interpretation of what goes on in Spain&#8230;Nobody hates the jews here, but everybody thinks (well, a lot of people) that the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT is a genocidal and nazi organisation. It is not the same, you see. By the way, you can check my IP, is from Spain. But please don&#8217;t target me with trojans, track me with spiders or inform about me on tweeter. I am posting openly and freely.<br />
By the way, I know a lot of jews, heck, even a few of those horrid self-hating jews that happen to criticise zionism too&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Savoy</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/spains-jewish-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-178709</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Savoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Spain has a very dark history regarding Jews and the present day hatred its citizens have expressed for them is quite troubling this article in the Jerusalem Post is very much worthy of consideration.

Up until the Shoa, the largest destruction in the history of world Jewry happened on the Iberian Peninsular. The Inquisition and the Expulsion of Jews in Portugal and Spain left an indelible mark on Jews up until this very day. At the beginning of the 15th century, not a single Jew officially resided in Sepharad. Where once nearly 90% of world Jewry lived, not one openly Jewish soul remained.

While Spain was remembered very bitterly for many generations it became an unlikely haven for Jews escaping the Nazi destruction.

In June 1940, Spain adopted a pro-Axis non-belligerency stance (for example, he offered Spanish naval facilities to German ships). Adolf Hitler met Generalisimo Francisco Franco in Hendaye, France in October of that year to discuss the Spanish entry in the war joining the Axis.

Franco certainly did not share Hitler&#039;s pathological hatred for Jews and his desire to rid Europe of them.

The remarkable story of Spain becoming a safe haven for Jews in Europe quickly spread to the surrounding countries. Between 20,000 and 35,000 Jews made the arduous trip across the Pyrenees to Spain where they remained relatively unharmed by the local authorities.

When the Nazis became aware of this situation, they contacted the Franco government to assist in deporting these Jews back to the European interior. Franco did little to nothing to accede to these requests.

The assistance provided by Spanish officials was even greater than turning a blind eye to Jews who illegally entered Spain, especially in lieu of the still existing Edict of Expulsion.

Many diplomats issued passports and exit visas to Jews under the very noses of the Nazis. Earlier this year, Eduardo Propper de Callejon, Helena Bonham Carter&#039;s grandfather, was posthumously awarded the title &quot;Righteous Among the Nations,&quot; the highest honor granted to non-Jews who risked their lives to save Jews during the Shoa.

Angel Sanz Briz, a Spanish diplomat in Budapest, managed to receive permission to supply travel documents to &quot;Spanish&quot; Jews. Sanz Briz wandered through the ghettos of Hungary looking for Sephardi Jews who he could claim were Spanish citizens and rescue them from under the noses of Adolph Eichmann.

&quot;I restricted myself to accomplish the orders of my Government and of Gen. Franco&quot; declared Sanz Briz 30 years ago.

There are those who feel that Franco assisted Jews during the Shoa because of financial benefit. The verdict of three historians, Antonio Marquina and Gloria Ospina, and Bernd Rother that have undertaken the most detailed research on the topic was that Franco was more objectionist than has been made out and much of his decision-making was purely to make a profit.

According to Jose Maria Doussinague, then general director for foreign policy and as such one of the highest-ranked officials in the Spanish Ministry for Foreign Affairs, the regime could not leave Spanish Jews abroad at the mercy of Germany&#039;s anti-semitic legislation because the Allies, in particular the US, would then become more hostile to the Spanish government and because the regime had to make sure that Spain, not Germany was to profit from the assets of Spanish Jews.

There is however another tantalizing opinion, or merely a rumor, which will probably never be proven one way or another. This is that Franco was a Marrano or Converso, and was thus the descendant of Jews forcibly converted to Christianity during the 14th and 15th centuries.

Some speculate that even Franco thought he was Jewish and many claim that Franco and Bahamonde (his mother&#039;s maiden name) are both Jewish names. This theory is espoused by Franco biographer, Paul Preston.

Could it be that as a result of the then worst calamity to befall the Jewish people since the fall of the Second Temple made it possible for tens of thousands of Jews to survive the most recent calamity? This is one answer we will probably never receive but one which has an interesting irony in the annals of Jewish history and persecution

Jerusalem Post:The Sephardi Perspective:The Irony of Spain&#039;s Holocaust record 

http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/Perez/entry/the_irony_of_spain_s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Spain has a very dark history regarding Jews and the present day hatred its citizens have expressed for them is quite troubling this article in the Jerusalem Post is very much worthy of consideration.</p>
<p>Up until the Shoa, the largest destruction in the history of world Jewry happened on the Iberian Peninsular. The Inquisition and the Expulsion of Jews in Portugal and Spain left an indelible mark on Jews up until this very day. At the beginning of the 15th century, not a single Jew officially resided in Sepharad. Where once nearly 90% of world Jewry lived, not one openly Jewish soul remained.</p>
<p>While Spain was remembered very bitterly for many generations it became an unlikely haven for Jews escaping the Nazi destruction.</p>
<p>In June 1940, Spain adopted a pro-Axis non-belligerency stance (for example, he offered Spanish naval facilities to German ships). Adolf Hitler met Generalisimo Francisco Franco in Hendaye, France in October of that year to discuss the Spanish entry in the war joining the Axis.</p>
<p>Franco certainly did not share Hitler&#8217;s pathological hatred for Jews and his desire to rid Europe of them.</p>
<p>The remarkable story of Spain becoming a safe haven for Jews in Europe quickly spread to the surrounding countries. Between 20,000 and 35,000 Jews made the arduous trip across the Pyrenees to Spain where they remained relatively unharmed by the local authorities.</p>
<p>When the Nazis became aware of this situation, they contacted the Franco government to assist in deporting these Jews back to the European interior. Franco did little to nothing to accede to these requests.</p>
<p>The assistance provided by Spanish officials was even greater than turning a blind eye to Jews who illegally entered Spain, especially in lieu of the still existing Edict of Expulsion.</p>
<p>Many diplomats issued passports and exit visas to Jews under the very noses of the Nazis. Earlier this year, Eduardo Propper de Callejon, Helena Bonham Carter&#8217;s grandfather, was posthumously awarded the title &#8220;Righteous Among the Nations,&#8221; the highest honor granted to non-Jews who risked their lives to save Jews during the Shoa.</p>
<p>Angel Sanz Briz, a Spanish diplomat in Budapest, managed to receive permission to supply travel documents to &#8220;Spanish&#8221; Jews. Sanz Briz wandered through the ghettos of Hungary looking for Sephardi Jews who he could claim were Spanish citizens and rescue them from under the noses of Adolph Eichmann.</p>
<p>&#8220;I restricted myself to accomplish the orders of my Government and of Gen. Franco&#8221; declared Sanz Briz 30 years ago.</p>
<p>There are those who feel that Franco assisted Jews during the Shoa because of financial benefit. The verdict of three historians, Antonio Marquina and Gloria Ospina, and Bernd Rother that have undertaken the most detailed research on the topic was that Franco was more objectionist than has been made out and much of his decision-making was purely to make a profit.</p>
<p>According to Jose Maria Doussinague, then general director for foreign policy and as such one of the highest-ranked officials in the Spanish Ministry for Foreign Affairs, the regime could not leave Spanish Jews abroad at the mercy of Germany&#8217;s anti-semitic legislation because the Allies, in particular the US, would then become more hostile to the Spanish government and because the regime had to make sure that Spain, not Germany was to profit from the assets of Spanish Jews.</p>
<p>There is however another tantalizing opinion, or merely a rumor, which will probably never be proven one way or another. This is that Franco was a Marrano or Converso, and was thus the descendant of Jews forcibly converted to Christianity during the 14th and 15th centuries.</p>
<p>Some speculate that even Franco thought he was Jewish and many claim that Franco and Bahamonde (his mother&#8217;s maiden name) are both Jewish names. This theory is espoused by Franco biographer, Paul Preston.</p>
<p>Could it be that as a result of the then worst calamity to befall the Jewish people since the fall of the Second Temple made it possible for tens of thousands of Jews to survive the most recent calamity? This is one answer we will probably never receive but one which has an interesting irony in the annals of Jewish history and persecution</p>
<p>Jerusalem Post:The Sephardi Perspective:The Irony of Spain&#8217;s Holocaust record </p>
<p><a href="http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/Perez/entry/the_irony_of_spain_s" rel="nofollow">http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/Perez/entry/the_irony_of_spain_s</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a UK Jew who has spent time in Spain.

The Spanish of today do not hate Jews.  Most Spaniards have never met a Jew, and know little of Jews or Judaism.

However, the Spanish see themselves very much as underdogs within Western Europe.  And as such they always identify with the underdog.  Perceiving the Palestinians to be perpetual underdogs in a struggle with Israel, the Spaniards identify strongly with them and are very much anti-Israel.  They see Israel as a political and military bully.  But we should hesitate to make too quick or facile an equation of that with anti-semitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a UK Jew who has spent time in Spain.</p>
<p>The Spanish of today do not hate Jews.  Most Spaniards have never met a Jew, and know little of Jews or Judaism.</p>
<p>However, the Spanish see themselves very much as underdogs within Western Europe.  And as such they always identify with the underdog.  Perceiving the Palestinians to be perpetual underdogs in a struggle with Israel, the Spaniards identify strongly with them and are very much anti-Israel.  They see Israel as a political and military bully.  But we should hesitate to make too quick or facile an equation of that with anti-semitism.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob the Nailer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob the Nailer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan/Vivosection

Get a room would ya?!</description>
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<p>Get a room would ya?!</p>
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		<title>By: susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nobody suggested that you were a prostitute, stupid vivo, although as they say, if the shoe fits.

Not even the scum of the universe would pay to come with you, so you&#039;d be a very unsuccesful and disease ridden prostitute

perfect picture tho, leftists like yourself are always in favour of free drugs and legal prostitution, that makes sense in understanding your background</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobody suggested that you were a prostitute, stupid vivo, although as they say, if the shoe fits.</p>
<p>Not even the scum of the universe would pay to come with you, so you&#8217;d be a very unsuccesful and disease ridden prostitute</p>
<p>perfect picture tho, leftists like yourself are always in favour of free drugs and legal prostitution, that makes sense in understanding your background</p>
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