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	<title>Comments on: Specter of the RINO to Haunt GOP No More</title>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 00:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;brien or ostensibly Big Brother.  Sorry, but my question remains...I&#039;m afraid you are moving to a conspiracy theory that requires too many players to be feasible.  Not the least of which is that the big business spends money where people watch, not that they cause ppl to watch there.  Business isn&#039;t propping them up, they are just finding an audience that is already there, which is why they fund them.

Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;brien or ostensibly Big Brother.  Sorry, but my question remains&#8230;I&#8217;m afraid you are moving to a conspiracy theory that requires too many players to be feasible.  Not the least of which is that the big business spends money where people watch, not that they cause ppl to watch there.  Business isn&#8217;t propping them up, they are just finding an audience that is already there, which is why they fund them.</p>
<p>Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 Jack:
&quot;I’m not sure I’m following.&quot;

 Have you read Orwell?

 In &quot;Nineteen Eighty-Four&quot;, who was the author of &quot;Goldstein&#039;s Book&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 Jack:<br />
&#8220;I’m not sure I’m following.&#8221;</p>
<p> Have you read Orwell?</p>
<p> In &#8220;Nineteen Eighty-Four&#8221;, who was the author of &#8220;Goldstein&#8217;s Book&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 00:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#82 Bilgeman - I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m following.  Are you anti Rupert Murdoch or anti Bill Gates? Or both?

Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#82 Bilgeman &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m following.  Are you anti Rupert Murdoch or anti Bill Gates? Or both?</p>
<p>Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Bilgeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilgeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72 Samizdat:
&quot;I would like to hear more of your thoughts on wealths role in our society. I don’t have any use for the Rockefeller types either, but an entrepreneur who builds a better mouse trap... What do you have to say about that?&quot;

 I say that the guy who builds a better mousetrap, or develops the next &quot;must-have&quot; software, or builds a succesful business is a very far cry from John D. Rockefeller and the Rockefellers who descended from him.

 My point is that steveg had it exactly right.

 Without media patronage, the Progressives, (as they style themselves), would be akin to what John Birch Society members are today perceived as...a kooky fringe of peculiar cranks.

 Who coughs up the money that makes the media &quot;go&quot;?

 Business, specifically, BIG Institutional Business...through their advertising dollars.

 It therefore follows that Business, by advertising on MSM outlets, is endorsing, (in the way that REALLY counts), the initiatives that the MSM is biased towards.

 The entire Liberal menu, as it is spun and pitched by media and academia, is underwritten, either directly or indirectly by Big Business.

 There&#039;s something we should remember about Rockefeller, Carnegie, DuPont and their ilk...those gentlemen were only for Free Markets insofar as it left them Free to exterminate their competitors and create monopolized captive markets.

 They wanted government off of THEIR backs, but were perfectly happy to have Government lay a beat-down on their competitors...look what Edison tried doing to Westinghouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72 Samizdat:<br />
&#8220;I would like to hear more of your thoughts on wealths role in our society. I don’t have any use for the Rockefeller types either, but an entrepreneur who builds a better mouse trap&#8230; What do you have to say about that?&#8221;</p>
<p> I say that the guy who builds a better mousetrap, or develops the next &#8220;must-have&#8221; software, or builds a succesful business is a very far cry from John D. Rockefeller and the Rockefellers who descended from him.</p>
<p> My point is that steveg had it exactly right.</p>
<p> Without media patronage, the Progressives, (as they style themselves), would be akin to what John Birch Society members are today perceived as&#8230;a kooky fringe of peculiar cranks.</p>
<p> Who coughs up the money that makes the media &#8220;go&#8221;?</p>
<p> Business, specifically, BIG Institutional Business&#8230;through their advertising dollars.</p>
<p> It therefore follows that Business, by advertising on MSM outlets, is endorsing, (in the way that REALLY counts), the initiatives that the MSM is biased towards.</p>
<p> The entire Liberal menu, as it is spun and pitched by media and academia, is underwritten, either directly or indirectly by Big Business.</p>
<p> There&#8217;s something we should remember about Rockefeller, Carnegie, DuPont and their ilk&#8230;those gentlemen were only for Free Markets insofar as it left them Free to exterminate their competitors and create monopolized captive markets.</p>
<p> They wanted government off of THEIR backs, but were perfectly happy to have Government lay a beat-down on their competitors&#8230;look what Edison tried doing to Westinghouse.</p>
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		<title>By: myth buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>myth buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following fiscal conservatism while ignoring social conservatism can&#039;t work.  Why not?  The economy is built on a crumbling foundation if the next generation is not secure.  When we kill off 1/4 of the next generation before it is born and leave the survivors to contend with rampant divorce and sexual for 18 years, the result is a workforce that is lacking in numbers, skill, integrity and health.  Such a workforce will crumble when the crisis comes.  Sure the house looks good with its great decorations, 2500 square feet, and big screen TVs, but if the foundation is rotting, it may soon be condemned because it isn&#039;t safe to live in anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following fiscal conservatism while ignoring social conservatism can&#8217;t work.  Why not?  The economy is built on a crumbling foundation if the next generation is not secure.  When we kill off 1/4 of the next generation before it is born and leave the survivors to contend with rampant divorce and sexual for 18 years, the result is a workforce that is lacking in numbers, skill, integrity and health.  Such a workforce will crumble when the crisis comes.  Sure the house looks good with its great decorations, 2500 square feet, and big screen TVs, but if the foundation is rotting, it may soon be condemned because it isn&#8217;t safe to live in anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: ILikeIke</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILikeIke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting contrast in the comments here.

Both Jack and G Alston seem have actually thought a lot about the issues and have formed an intelligent opinion.

And then you get BigDave hooting about kicking all the RINOS out of the party.

Then you get &quot;A Thinking&quot; Person calling Obama &quot;TeleBama&quot; in a move that the gossip pages might use about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.

Note to BigDave and ATP:

Cheering the shrinking of your party is counter-productive.

And calling people names is juvenile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting contrast in the comments here.</p>
<p>Both Jack and G Alston seem have actually thought a lot about the issues and have formed an intelligent opinion.</p>
<p>And then you get BigDave hooting about kicking all the RINOS out of the party.</p>
<p>Then you get &#8220;A Thinking&#8221; Person calling Obama &#8220;TeleBama&#8221; in a move that the gossip pages might use about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie.</p>
<p>Note to BigDave and ATP:</p>
<p>Cheering the shrinking of your party is counter-productive.</p>
<p>And calling people names is juvenile.</p>
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		<title>By: AThinkingPerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>AThinkingPerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#68 Middleman: Yes, you&#039;re right, the GOP has been focused on the free market system and have been pretty darned successful at it (pre-TeleBama market hostage take-over of course). The Liberals have been focused on busing in illegal, illiterate and unregistered voters to vote and you know what? They&#039;ve been pretty successful at it too! Different focuses of course. One for the greater good and one for TeleBama&#039;s good. You decide which is better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#68 Middleman: Yes, you&#8217;re right, the GOP has been focused on the free market system and have been pretty darned successful at it (pre-TeleBama market hostage take-over of course). The Liberals have been focused on busing in illegal, illiterate and unregistered voters to vote and you know what? They&#8217;ve been pretty successful at it too! Different focuses of course. One for the greater good and one for TeleBama&#8217;s good. You decide which is better.</p>
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		<title>By: BigDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got rid of one RINO here in the state of Utah. His name was Chris Cannon. Two more to go. A governor and a senator. I can’t wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got rid of one RINO here in the state of Utah. His name was Chris Cannon. Two more to go. A governor and a senator. I can’t wait.</p>
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		<title>By: G Alston</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Alston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75 -- &lt;i&gt;You just said that all libs vote in lock step, but clearly that is what you want all republicans to do, hence the “good riddance” lobbed towards Specter.&lt;/i&gt;

That is the most telling comment of all. Independent thinking is prized until it is exhibited by a republican, who is then screeched at and called names (RINO!!!) until he decides to switch affiliations.

Note that the left has a far left greenie faction and yet the left rank and file isn&#039;t told to march to that tune or else. (Contrast that to the far right social conservatives who insist that it&#039;s their way or the highway.) It seems on the face of it that the left is a great deal more open to independent thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#75 &#8212; <i>You just said that all libs vote in lock step, but clearly that is what you want all republicans to do, hence the “good riddance” lobbed towards Specter.</i></p>
<p>That is the most telling comment of all. Independent thinking is prized until it is exhibited by a republican, who is then screeched at and called names (RINO!!!) until he decides to switch affiliations.</p>
<p>Note that the left has a far left greenie faction and yet the left rank and file isn&#8217;t told to march to that tune or else. (Contrast that to the far right social conservatives who insist that it&#8217;s their way or the highway.) It seems on the face of it that the left is a great deal more open to independent thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: G Alston</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Alston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#56 -- &lt;i&gt;We have yet to have a a fully fiscal conservative approach to economics. If we ever do, you will see growth across the economy like we have not seen in this country since the 19th century. The rest of the world will have difficulty competeing, especially the Europeans.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re dreaming.

What kicks things along is technical progress, and this is almost invariably funded by government (typically DoD.) Some of this progress filters into the civilian world. Computers were created to help solve ballistics problems; computer chips were needed to guide ICBMs, GPS was needed to position troops, the internet was a failsafe communications backbone, and so on. Every one of these things that drive the modern economy was kick-started with massive government funding.

Had the &quot;fiscal conservative&quot; approach been taken since WWII we&#039;d just now be able to take our cool new AM transistor radios outside with us on battery power and the punch button princess phone would appear by 2030. I for one am quite happy that a fiscal conservative approach has never been taken.

Instead, we have the conveniences of modern life because a fiscally conservative approach was REJECTED, and rightfully so. Perhaps you should google &quot;Strategy of Technology&quot; for your education at this point. It was written by Reagan&#039;s SDI advisors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#56 &#8212; <i>We have yet to have a a fully fiscal conservative approach to economics. If we ever do, you will see growth across the economy like we have not seen in this country since the 19th century. The rest of the world will have difficulty competeing, especially the Europeans.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re dreaming.</p>
<p>What kicks things along is technical progress, and this is almost invariably funded by government (typically DoD.) Some of this progress filters into the civilian world. Computers were created to help solve ballistics problems; computer chips were needed to guide ICBMs, GPS was needed to position troops, the internet was a failsafe communications backbone, and so on. Every one of these things that drive the modern economy was kick-started with massive government funding.</p>
<p>Had the &#8220;fiscal conservative&#8221; approach been taken since WWII we&#8217;d just now be able to take our cool new AM transistor radios outside with us on battery power and the punch button princess phone would appear by 2030. I for one am quite happy that a fiscal conservative approach has never been taken.</p>
<p>Instead, we have the conveniences of modern life because a fiscally conservative approach was REJECTED, and rightfully so. Perhaps you should google &#8220;Strategy of Technology&#8221; for your education at this point. It was written by Reagan&#8217;s SDI advisors.</p>
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