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1. African Moonbat:

Wishfull thinking I’m afraid. If Indiana is in doubt then Florida, Ohio and Pennslvania are out of McCains reach, and without two of those states there is no way he can make 270.

Obama has had an easy, meteoric rise and when President is headed for a massive fall. In the magnifying glass of the White House will illuminate the flaws in his charachter that the MSM have kept hidden. His total lack of experience will become apparant. He could do a Clintonesque U Turn or stick with the philosphy of Ayers, Kos & co. The MSM will turn on him because that is what they do. If the Republicans can get their act together I will not be surprised to see Obama to be ignominiously turfed out with a McGovernesque minority.

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:43 am 2. Marc Malone:

The carnage in the Media will be incredible if McCain pulls this off. Not only have they been clearly in the tank for Obama, but to get it wrong, despite all their efforts? Disaster! It’ll finish the job of fully discrediting themselves. Stocks for them will just tank.

I’ll be crying big Crocodile tears. I can think of no better reason to vote for McCain! Death to the MSM!

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:58 am 3. Emmet Sweeney:

The bias of the mainstream media has been incredible. I’m pretty certain that a major purpose of the opinion polls has been not simply to reflect opinion but to create it. Let’s hope Republican voters can see through what they’re doing. Sections of the MSM establishment are already celebrating The One’s victory, or so I hear. But in my experience, people who count their chickens before they’re hatched usually end up with an empty henhouse.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:49 am 4. lee:

In my graduate writing class, only one student had the “I voted sticker” on, although yesterday was the last day to take advantage of early voting on campus.

Oct 29, 2008 - 3:06 am 5. TomP:

I have to say that, much as I like her, I do wish Sarah Palen had a little more exposure to national issues before being cast into this campaign. In retrospect, Romney might have been the better pick (especially now with the economy in the tank). And I also have to say that I think that McCain’s time truly was the 2000 election. I’m quite confident that things would be significantly different (and for the better) had he won in 2000, and he would have cleaned Gore’s clock. Nevertheless, after making an effort to find that “hope and change” promised in Obama, I have to throw my support behind McCain. My greatest fear isn’t Obama as much as it is that idiot Pelosi and her Senate counterpart Harry Reid. Surely the Democrats could’ve come up with a couple of party leaders who had a brain in their head. After watching Pelosi speak during the bailout hearings, I joined the NRA. And, regarding what to expect if Obama loses? The black community has already indicated that their “disappointment” will be answered with “protests”. One individual here in Orlando was quoted in the paper as saying that “the only way Obama can lose is due to racism”, as if there is any other issue by which to judge EITHER candidate. Sounds like a threat to me. I can’t remember the number of times “my” candidate lost (more often than not) and I managed to keep my “disappointment” under control. I guess my “sense” of entitlement has gone blind, dumb and deaf.

Oct 29, 2008 - 3:16 am 6. Joseph Marshall:

To genuinely evaluate the chances, you need to also look at this page on Real Clear Politics:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=5

If a candidate has a less than 6% advantage, RCP rates the state a toss-up, above 6% is either leaning or solid. Counted this way, Obama has 306 Electoral Votes and McCain 157. This is absolutely the best breakout any such poll averaging site gives McCain. Even Karl Rove & Co. calls these same numbers.

To win, McCain needs 112 EV. There are 75 EV in the toss-up states, so McCain must win them all. That leaves him 37 that he must pry away from Obama’s totals. He’s trying hardest in PA, where he has to overcome a 9-12 point advantage. Assuming he actually wins Pennsylvania’s 21 EV, no other leaning Obama state will give him enough to make 36 except Ohio. He is behind +6 in Ohio.

So his route to the Presidency requires him to win PA, OH, FL, NC, IN, MO, NV, MT, ND. The only one of these states where McCain has any lead whatever is Montana.

“I’ve reported, you decide.”

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:05 am 7. SEW:

Late breaking “news” about W’s DUI? Rathergate? So where is the late breaking news about Obama’s cocaine, marijuana use? And the Rathergate concerning his military service? Or the news about his Jew bashing party being hidden by the LATimes? MSM has no problem releasing top national security info to “protect” the right of the press, but refuses to release anything concerning their Marxist candidate. May they all experience bankruptcy.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:08 am 8. vivo:

McCain can win with vote tampering.

Remember 2000?

Is someone going to certify the election?

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:08 am 9. PiltdownMan:

It’s only a few days away, and people still haven’t really absorbed the potential impact of “The One”s plans.

For many people here in liberal NYC, it sounds great in the abstract to take money away from those greedy rich people and redistribute to the poor.

But when I mentioned that I heard that next year, the company I work for was going to redistribute all year-end bonuses to ACORN, people choked.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:11 am 10. David Thomson:

“In my graduate writing class, only one student had the “I voted sticker” on, although yesterday was the last day to take advantage of early voting on campus.”

The odds have always favored the politically correct John McCain. His fear of being unjustly charged with racism hurt his campaign considerably. Sarah Palin and the rest of us, alas, will have to drag him over the finish line. I have consistently considered the main stream pollsters as deluding themselves on behalf of the Anointed One. If indeed the promised “overwhelming” college vote for Barack Obama turns out to be a delusion—this is a a good sign that the McCain/Palin ticket might even win by a comfortable margin on Election Day.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:23 am 11. countryfirst:

Right vs. Left

Life vs. Infanticide

Service to Country vs. Inexperience

Freedom vs. Government

Capitalism vs. Socialism

Prosperity vs. Redistribution

Joe the Plumber vs. Arrogance

Simple speech vs. Rhetorical Flourishes

Vietnam Vet. vs. Islam

National Security vs. Testing

Patriotic vs. Not proud of America

Maverick vs. “Present”

26 years vs. community organizer

THERE NEVER WAS AN ELECTION DECISION THAT WAS ANY EASIER. JOHN MCCAIN IS NOT GEORGE BUSH. HE IS JUST WHO HE SAYS HE IS. OBAMA? NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:55 am 12. AJ:

Well said. McCain will win when all the votes are counted, despite ACORN’s fraud and BHO’s brainwashing of emotional fools.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:04 am 13. Craig:

Dear realitycheq:

Huh?

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:06 am 14. Me:

Aren’t the current electoral standings a result of poll surveys…that are usually 95% accurate with a 3% or so margin of error? And isn’t it possible that many of the people who have answered these surveys not voted yet? They have to actually go vote in order for their answers to to have real weight. Do I think McCain will win? Not too much, but I’m hopeful. I’m hopeful because many things I’ve read say that Republicans often turn out much more than Democrats. That doesn’t say they’ll all vote for McCain, but it helps. I’m holding onto my own brand of hope here.

And if Obama wins it, I’ll just hope he’ll be so busy learning the job that it’ll take him about 4 years to actually start ruining our country…and by that time we can ship his messiah (insert slang) to Palestine where he’d rather be anyway (only, he can’t become “the most powerful man” in the world in Palestine…let’s ship him there anyway).

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:06 am 15. Tom H:

There is an 11th reason that you left out – and there are plenty of us out there that believe it. This is a spiritual battle, and God’s hand is going to be in this election. In spite of everything , lets just say ‘evil’, that has been thrown at McCain/Palin, in spite of every deception/lie/whatever, there may be a supernatural victory coming – if you are supporting the O and think that abortion is ok or at least not that big an issue, and you think that the US is not anything ’special’, then you probably have no idea what I mean, and that this reasoning is for kooks. To you God Bless you.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:09 am 16. Magic:

McCain/Palin can win the election in spite of all the corruption by Obama, Biden, DNC, Media (but I repeat myself), ACORN, Supporter Intimidation and Obama continuously playing the race card.
How is it that if 51% (reportedly) of white people are voting for McCain because he’s white is RACISTS but 86% (reportedly) of blacks are voting for Obama because he’s black isn’t???
The media (DNC)PR department hasn’t reported squat on Obama in 18 Months but, in 2 weeks I know the entire personnel history of some plumber in Ohio???
Gov. Palin is blasted for even the smallist of mistakes yet Sen Biden barely exists on the planet Earth and nothing is said.

I think no matter who wins this election the Media has more than proven it’s bias and will recieve the judgement of the people badly

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:12 am 17. epb:

From your lips to God’s ear!

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:12 am 18. Edmund Jenks (MAXINE):

I’m looking to have the “Bradley Effect” be replaced with a more powerful and pronounced “Obama Effect”!

We would need to add a couple of more reasons to the color issue (in order to have a name change to the “Obama Effect” take place), however, like the color of his politics, the tainted nature and color of his money, the color of passion in values and right to life voters (feel free to add what you observe).

With Obama and his class “warfare/welfare” tax plan, we may be looking at a RAINBOW of colors in the “Bradley Effect” … but if Obama looses, will the MSM report the reasons for the loss in this way? … we think not.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:13 am 19. Ed Wallis:

#12 “CountryFirst” –

Ohh…I’D say we know who ZerObama is :

This is B.O.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiB4EobS_ZM

This is B.O. “xxl” :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

This is B.O.’s “higher purpose” :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3IAjphhw6E

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:33 am 20. Boris:

“Life vs. Infanticide”

truth vs. desperate lie

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:36 am 21. Huan:

Reasons to vote for McCain

1. McCain is better for the country. Better at foreign policy. Capitalism still better than socialism.

2. A McCain victory will deliver a body blow to the MSM.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:37 am 22. Therese:

I agree. The race isn’t over. The polls are skewed towards Obama with the intent of getting us McCain voters to not show up.

11th Reason for Obama losing: The Hillary Voters for McCain. These women have not been talked about, but they having been working at the grass roots level to get McCain elected. For example, PA is going McCain’s way, but to hear the media it is solidly behind Obama. Don’t believe me? Go to this link at the Hillbuzz site.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/breaking-heres-what-we-know-about-pennsylvania-right-now/

There are a lot of Democrats who are going to vote for John McCain. Read more at the Hillbuzz site and you’ll see the fervor that they have to get McCain elected. The media is not going to tell you about them. The polls are inaccurately reflecting all Democrat votes for Obama.

John Kerry didn’t have a significant faction of his own party working against him in 2004 and he still lost. Obama has a significant faction working against him plus he has Republicans charged up even more than the last election who want to see John McCain elected.

John McCain and Sarah Palin can win this election! We have to VOTE and get all of our McCain supporting friends to vote. Obama and the media know that they need to suppress our vote which is why they are doing every single thing they can to discourage us.

Let’s slap Obama and the main street media in the face this election day by turning out in RECORD NUMBERS to vote and elect John McCain our next President of the United States!

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:41 am 23. Boris:

“This is a spiritual battle, and God’s hand is going to be in this election.”

Does this mean that if Obama wins, then God doesn’t exist, or would it be that He is testing us or punishing us or something? Or would the devil be “winning”? (I’m actually being serious with this question, but I wouldn’t blame if you thought I was being a smartass.)

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:42 am 24. Pegggy Nooonnnan:

I shat myself when I saw this mornings Rassmussen tracker. That I had slept all night on an empty vodka bottle also contributed to the causal cramping. I’m screwed if Obama loses.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:53 am 25. BC:

To countryfirst — you’re very, very confused.

McCain vs Obama is actually:

Cynicism vs Hope

Pretend Reform vs Real Reform

Same old, same old vs An end to 8 yrs of lies and incompetence

Greed vs Real Prosperity

A country still in decline vs A country with renewed vigor and purpose

A continued erosion of liberty vs Getting back to the “land of the free and the home of the brave”

The Three Stooges vs The “A” Team

Insecurities vs Real safety

The bad, clumsy and obnoxious neighbor vs The strong, competent and respected leader of the free world

The bad guys vs the The good guys

You’re in a way right (so to speak), though — there never has been an election decision that should be easier, except for maybe the last election in 2004, but where too many clueless doofuses still managed to make a pretty damn stupid decision.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:01 am 26. huxley:

I’d agree that Obama has the advantage. In fact it’s surprising he is not doing better, considering all the advantages the Democrats enjoy this year: an unpopular two-term Republican incumbent, an unpopular war, and an epochal economic meltdown.

Nonetheless this has been about the most peculiar election cycle in my lifetime. If there were ever a vote to go against the poll odds — like Hillary’s astonishing victory over Obama in the New Hampshire primary — this presidential election next week is it.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:02 am 27. Boris:

“The polls are inaccurately reflecting all Democrat votes for Obama.”

Huh? Please explain. (this should be good)

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:06 am 28. QuietManinMinn:

If all the “polls” are so accurate and Pennsylvania is definitely Obama’s, then why are both McCain and Palin wasting their time there? And why is Obama also there worried that they will take his state? Seems to me then that Pennsylvania is probably a real toss up! Now if you take the current Pennesylvania polls, McCain down about 10 points, which is really a toss up? and apply that to the other toss ups and battleground states, it seems to me that McCain will squeak by.

Besides, the week prior to 2000 and 2004, the “polls” had Gore and Kerry up a bit over Bush, and assuming they are lying about 5% across the board this time, as usual, then McCain will be okay. Now, since the MSM and the polls were in the tank for Gore and Kerry, and are “REALLY” in the tank for Obama, are they only lying about 5% this time? Could it be more?

MSM are also once again saying that Obama has won – it is ALL OVER! I’ve heard this before, many times before – they do this to discourage voters from the right from showing up at the polls – they lied too many times before, and the right does not believe them anymore – so in spite of their lies, they obviously sense this thing is not over or they would not bother to try to scam the right out of showing up at the polls.

I think it is going to be a long night on Tuesday. I do hope that the margin in close states is wide enough that the results can be accepted. With all the ACORN/Obama voter registration fraud, how many of them will show up at the polls and then the slimy snake lawyers stick their evil noses into it, and the results are unknown for?

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:10 am 29. Big Al:

COUNTRYFIRST -me likey, and if he wins in my mind he has simply fooled more people(assuming the election is on the square) with false gifts and their refusal to think.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:12 am 30. Holly:

Great article that goes right to the point of this one.
http://www.smartgirlpolitics.blogspot.com. Check it out

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:17 am 31. Tom H:

Boris- trying to catch you up on 6000 years of history would take at least a couple minutes more than you are willing to spare; yes, evident to everyone there is obviously a punishment going on, but hopefully there is some mercy in there somewhere – I would like to think that instead of dropping off the ledge and having 250 or so years of God-given freedom just be for naught, we might get a little more time to sway the hearts of men, so to speak-the end of the story is a real Messiah, not one that man put there

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:17 am 32. Get Real:

There is a reason why people talk to republicans like children. When you elevate someone named Joe the Plumber to iconic status and pin your election hopes on someone like that you are just plain dumb. What a joke the party of ideas has become. If you can’t see people like Joe and Sarah as carnival tricks to distract you from whats going on then by all means vote for McCain. All the mature people in the room are going to vote for Obama because we expect more from our President than we do from some plumber and a hockey mom.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:19 am 33. Madog:

I find it hard to imagine that most of you beleive the nonsense you post here, the hate a rhetoric is amazing. For all the crying and whinning, I did not see anyone make a single reason not to vote for Obama that you could (and would) not make for whoever was mopping up McCain in the election.

“Hes the most liberal..” just like Bill Clinton was the “most liberal”, John Kerry was the “most liberal”, Hillary clinton was the “most liberal” (when she was winning) you people just change the names and use the same tired old attacks. It is transparent and it is only working inside your own bubble.

The right is lost because they think this is all about the right verses the left, and they lost sight of the countries best interest. That is why they deserve the beating that is coming next week!

Hopefully that will wake the right up and they can shed the ignorant mentallity and get back to the once proud party they used to be.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:24 am 34. RE:

McCain stands a chance because people are finally starting to realize that Obama’s worldview will be very, very harmful to our nation. It’s too bad the tepid and wimpy McCain campaign couldn’t have helped out more in this regard.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:31 am 35. Terri:

Four of my friends who have never voted for a Republican say that they just can’t vote for Obama. Strange. Until this past week all four have profusely defended Obama. All four friends are lifelong Democrats but simply doubt the man. The connection between “spreading the wealth” and the spreading doubt is clear.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:32 am 36. Tom H:

get Real – sounds like you dumped the Halloween candy on the floor and ate it all – just like your sugar rush, at some point the O’s facade is going to wear off and reality is gonna smack you in the face – full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes ( or if a more child-like term is needed for you – give me candy, not facts!)

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:32 am 37. Boris:

Tom,

Thanks for trying to explain it to me. I still don’t get it, but whatever is true, it will be interesting at least…

Quietman,

“Besides, the week prior to 2000 and 2004, the “polls” had Gore and Kerry up a bit over Bush…”

This just isn’t true–at least for 2004 (don’t know about 2000):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bush_vs_kerry.html

As you can see, in the week before the election, the polls had Bush up by 1.5% which is about what what he won by.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:33 am 38. Andrew:

I’m a Canadian who has followed this election as closely as anyone can and all I can say is that the American MSM bias for Obama makes the CBC(Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) look conservative. Anyone who knows what the CBC is knows it’s a shill for progressives and the Liberal Party of Canada. Thank God for the Internet and Fox News. So, we have a seasoned war hero and an empty suit with radical associations. Yeah, that is a tough choice. I don’t envy your decision.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:36 am 39. Kevin:

Take the polls with a HUGE grain of salt. For those that actually publish the internal results, it is easy to see that most, if not all, of Obama’s “lead” is based on a whacked-out assumption that the Democrat turnout will massively exceed the Republican turnout.

History says otherwise. Only rarely has the turnout difference been more than 2-3 points between the parties, and never in the ranges used in most of these polls (some of which project Dem over Rep by as much as 12-15 points!). When weighted to 2006 turnout, not a good year for Republicans, the Obama “lead” disappears to well within the margin of error. Republicans are more motivated this year than 2006, so to 2006 numbers are “pessimistic” from the GOP viewpoint.

Then you have to factor in the undecided vote. At this point, with all of the favorable (even fawning) coverage Obama has received, if someone is still “undecided”, they are unlikely to vote for him. Both camps seem to agree, believing that the undecided will likely break for McCain over Obama. The only questions are “by how much” and “how many just stay home”. The latest news coverage of the campaign and polling is intended to depress turnout by declaring the race over before election day.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:40 am 40. Ari:

“Eleventh, a vote for McCain might make this hate-spewing web site vanish into the ether forever and a day.”

Ah yes, the left hates opposing views.

I look forward personally to the race riots when McCain wins — as if the ONLY reason people will vote against the most inexperienced and radical candidate in US history is b/c his father was from Kenya.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:43 am 41. Truth First:

The sun is setting as I sit down with Barack Obama, the next President of the United States in his hotel room. Obama drinks from a water bottle and leans back in his chair. He is tired but still alert after a long day of campaigning. His face is relaxed and content. “We are almost there,” he tells me.

Election Day is two weeks away. The sun may be setting on this particular day but it is clear to all but a few that a new day is beginning soon not only for America but for the world.

It has been six months since I joined the Obama campaign. Sometimes it feels like lifetime ago. So much has happened. There has been a great deal of traveling and I’ve seen more of America than I have ever cared to see. I am still astounded by how large this backwards and flawed nation is. I express this to Senator Obama.

“I understand. Believe me, I feel the same way.” Obama pauses and puts down the water bottle and rubs his eyes with both hands. “There is so much that I must do and sometimes I don’t know if eight years will be enough.”

The McCain people continue to claim Obama is a Socialist or that he will take money from plumbers. “They do not understand,” Obama says. “I wish sometimes I could just grab one of them by the shoulders and just yell, ‘wake up and get with the program!’”.

“Some people get it, a lot of them actually. They know what I must do. America is broken. Look at the rallies.” And he’s right. I don’t believe any of his appearances this week attracted less than 10,000 people.

“We have walked down a long path and I don’t mean just you and me. Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, W. E. B. Dubois, they all started the path and I can finish it”.

I tell Obama the legend of Amon-Ra, a God of ancient Egypt who attains the characteristics of all other gods. “Sometimes you remind me of him,” I tell him.

Obama smiles and looks out the window. Outside is America; a land that needs a wise and just leader.

He is coming.

http://truthfirstnow.blogspot.com

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:45 am 42. HoosierPatriot:

To Tom H. Amen!

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:47 am 43. jb:

Get Real,
Governor Sarah Palin is more experienced than Senator Obama. It’s not about “Joe the plumber”, it’s about the “answer”. How many times does that have to be repeated? Republicans had all the government and blew it; the democrats WILL do the same thing. The best thing for this country IS divided government or is it you want the Republican party destroyed and the dems to have ALL the power. That kind of government is more to the liking for leftists.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:47 am 44. DC Gamer:

“33. Get Real:

There is a reason why people talk to republicans like children. When you elevate someone named Joe the Plumber to iconic status and pin your election hopes on someone like that you are just plain dumb.”

And this is why people call Democrats elitists.

Democrats cannot, for the most part, run on what they actually believe because they know that they would always lose elections. Obama’s past statements, his close associations, and – yes – his honest slip to Joe the Plumber show that he is a socialist or at least has very socialist ideas about wealth redistribution.

A recent poll showed that 84% of Americans oppose the idea of wealth redistribution. Obama knows this. That is why he keeps trying to fool everyone with the line about 95% of people seeing lower taxes. No honest person can actually claim that they believe this line. It is simply not true.

“34. Madog:

I find it hard to imagine that most of you beleive the nonsense you post here, the hate a rhetoric is amazing.”

Sure enough. True to form. When you disagree with a Democrat, it is because you hate. If you vote against Obama, it is because you are a racist. Etc. etc. etc. Told about tired old lines… I hope that this will be the last election where Democrats are able to use “white guilt.”

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:47 am 45. Obamaniacs should prepare for possiblity of his defeat | Fightin Bob:

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Oct 29, 2008 - 7:02 am 46. Mustang09:

Boris, the pollsters are overstating early votes for Obama by presuming that all early voters who voted in the Democratic primaries are Obama votes. They ignore the possibility of PUMA votes for McCain/Palin. Likewise I have read that part of the turnout model and Repub/Dem ratios some pollsters are using are based upon numbers who turned out for primaries, which will also be skewed because while Dem primaries were still contested until June, Repub turnout was much lower for an uncontested race. Not to mention “opearation chaos” crossovers. What does it all mean? We’ll find out the answer at about 3:00 AM next Wednesday morning.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:10 am 47. Philip Jackson:

Madog – Well, we still get to have an election, no? And every time recently that the Dems decide that the best interest of the country will be served by electing some urban left-wing hack, it turns that the actual country disagrees. The Dems have elected two Presidents in the past forty years, both southern Governors who ran centrist campaigns. But according to you, it will be different this time.

We’ll see. But there are a lot of undecided voters out there who are just now in the process of making up their minds. I don’t think they will be impressed by your candidate’s absurd rhetoric that has you all true believers swooning, or his fund-raising tactics, or his voter-registration tactics, or his kiddie-exploitation tactics, or his thuggish media tactics. I think they might find it all rather disgusting, in fact. I don’t think they will overlook his lack of experience, his lack of any past that he is willing to acknowledge, the content of his thin voting record, or any of numerous other matters that folks usually, you know, take into account when deciding their vote. And they might also find themselves wondering why, after McCain has been lauded by the media for years now as bi-partisan, honest, and centrist, they are suddenly supposed to believe that he’s duplicitous, dishonorable, and a racist to boot. And they might take offense, too, with the idea that they are supposed to be racist for even considering a McCain vote.

One of the pundits said earlier this year that your party had nominated the only candidate that could lose this election. Will Obama win anyhow? Maybe, but I’ll believe it when I see it.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:13 am 48. SharkGirl:

No one has polled me yet, nor my friends, nor my family, so I don’t know where they get their poll surveys from? Do they pick who they want to win, then only report the surveys that best suits their candidate?

I haven’t voted yet because my precinct doesn’t open until election day.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:14 am 49. SiouxLady:

Yeah, QuietmaninMinn, remember West Florida in 2000 when exit polling called Florida for Gore before the polls closed there. Bush still won! (Please, trolls, don’t re-tell the lie that he did not get more votes. MSM flunkies recounted the votes after the election and determined that Bush won the vote count.)

McCain-Palin by November 4th!

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:18 am 50. McCain Pollster on State of the Race « Conservatives For McCain:

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Oct 29, 2008 - 7:26 am 51. Freddie Funky:

My state allows early voting( and is now considered a swing state) and I went and voted yesterday. I was also an “Operation Chaos” voter who held my nose and voted for Hill in the primary. The parking lot on the polling place on tuesday morning at 11am was jammed. There was a line out the door to vote. From what I saw in my little corner of the world, there were only handful of people who took the democratic party handout on who to vote for. I acutally took the democrat endoresement list myself and then made sure to vote against every democratic party endorsee.

The prevailing wisdom says that heavy turnout should favor the dems. I couldn’t really confirm or deny that from what I saw. What I can confirm is very heavy turnout.

I have little confidence in McCain to do the right thing, especially with a democratic controlled house and senate. I am terrified at what Pelosi, Frank, Schumer and gang will do with a democratic president.

Luckily I have been been steadily selling off my stocks for Cash, and got a decent portion out before the big crash.. I have further lightening up at every market rally. Now I just have to figure out how to get my dollars into hard assets to survive the wild spending and consequent inflation that either Obama will fuel, or McCain will ineffectively attempt to mitigate.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:34 am 52. Todd:

33. Get Real:
“There is a reason why people talk to republicans like children. When you elevate someone named Joe the Plumber to iconic status…”
Republicans didn’t ‘elevate’ Joe to ‘iconic status,’ Democrats did.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:44 am 53. Robert Hurley:

Boris:

You can’t come here expecting some rationality. Most of these people will believe anything negative about Obama and the millions of people who will vote for him. You can come here only if you want an insight into the warped minds of the wingnuts. I don’t even think that many of these people are even true conservatives. At lease at National Review on line you get some rational exlanations of their beliefs and most of the writers are real writers who don’t just make thing up. My concern is what these nuts will do when Obama wins. Aside from frothing at the mouth, probably nothing.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:51 am 54. Frank Logan:

Anybody who thinks Obama will win in Florida, NC, Virginia, Indiana, Nevada, Missouri, Montana, NH, Ohio, or even Pa has been reading too much MSM propaganda. McCain will win ALL these states and this election with 300 or more electoral votes. The democratic party has been split since the primaries. Roughly 14% of people who have always voted for democrats are voting for McCain in this election. Each of these votes does double duty. It subtracts one from Obama and adds one to McCain. When you run these numbers against the state by state results in 2004, it becomes apparent that Obama will not likely succeed no matter what McCain, MSM, or ACORN does, or does not do. Liberals need not reply to this comment until Nov. 5th.

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Oct 29, 2008 - 7:54 am 56. The Wizard:

WORDS FROM AND TO THE WISE

During this political season let’s be reminded of these wise words.

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’ s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

…..Abraham Lincoln

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:57 am 57. SharkGirl:

Freddie Funky, I have the same concerns as you do. I don’t know where to put money, and I also fear for America with a Democrat control. They already have their judges in place that ignore laws and legislate from the bench. They already have their media in place. They already have control of the youth through the schools. The only thing they lack is a president, but I suspect the corporations who own the media will take care of that.

I did some serious digging to find out who is controlling main stream media and I was warned that digging for information was dangerous and to be careful. I dug anyway, and I’m shocked, but not surprised.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:14 am 58. momof3:

I think Obama may be in for a nasty suprise. So much of his die-hard base is people that historically do not bother to get out on election day and vote. Could history change? Sure. But I don’t think it’s likely to. The republican base is people who always vote. I think a lot of the toss-ups will go Mcain. They would probably have gone Obama 3 weeks ago, but now? There’s a lot coming out and Obama’s not halping himself.

And who cares about polls? They had Gore winning and Kerry winning. So forgive me if I don’t put a lot of stock in them.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:19 am 59. Nemo:

Last night, at a show in Vegas, I saw a performer do a Johnny Carson impression. While doing a “Carnac the Magnificent” goof, he said: “May you be forced to take a racial sensitivity class taught by Barack Obama’s pastor.”

The crowd went wild.

America has heard and understood the information about Rev. Wright. If they hadn’t, no Vegas performer would risk a joke on it that might bomb.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:30 am 60. fred:

“McCain can win with vote tampering.”

Yep, and let’s put ACORN in charge of investigating voter fraud.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:31 am 61. Frank from Germany:

It´s really good to see that not everybody in US is blind for the lies of Obama. In Germany they believe he is the new God of USA because of fault News in TV and Web.
For me when I saw Obama first time in TV I didn´t know anything about him but I said to may wife: “Obama is a fraud and he is only telling lies.” After readings many news about him in the Web I saw that I was right.

McCain for President! … to save peace on world!

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:36 am 62. ReConUSMC:

[IF} Obama Wins.... God Forbid .
I truly ""believe " If he Governs as he said he will and Both houses in Congress 'SUPPORT ' Him they intend to Do .
AND If America can survive his racial Socialism it will finally end our Battle with Socialism once and for all even though our Country will be deeply scared and broken for many years .
I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT LIVING CONSTITUTION SUPREME COURT JUSTICES OR ANOTHER WARREN COURT OBAMA SAID WAS NOT RACIAL ENOUGH ???????? BS !

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:50 am 63. Ian Thorpe:

A friend of mine in Texas mailed me a link to footage of Obama being interviewed pre election (i.e. when it was possible to ask him questions he had not rehearsed) to get my English p.o.v.

I knew straightaway what she was hoping I’d spot and mailed back,”When Dubya was first elected people made jokes about how his lips moved when he was reading. Obama’s lips move when he’s thinking.”

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:58 am 64. AdrianS:

What I have noticed is that it is mostly, almost exclusively, the MSM that, with their pseudo polls with skewing and slanting, have been suggesting that Barack Obama might win.

However, much to the contrary, and given that of the 12% Blacks in America — an estimated less than 5% will vote for Obama (less than 14 million Black adult voters in a country of more than 305 million!) — McCain has a better than most chance to win big time on next Tuesday.

Over the last several months, we have learned that Obama is a radical, repugnant, and incessant liar. Obama is a thug much like the many, many “friends” and “mentors” he hangs with — Rezko, Farrakhan, Rev. Wright, Khalidi, communist Frank Marshall David and others. Now we learn that Obama is definitively a socialist and extremist leftist. Obama gets upset when TV hosts point this out — why? — because it’s the truth. Barack Hussein Obama is a loser.

The tens of millions, and more, voters that have learned the ugly truths about Barack Obama are NOT going to vote for him. They will defeat Obama.

The best hope we have for our economy, our military, our health, and our freedom is to vote for John McCain — honorable, with integrity, and a true patriot.

God Bless America.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:07 am 65. Charles G. Webb:

Ultimately, I think Americans will vote for the American candidate that represents Americans and America, and we all know that isn’t Obama, but McCain, AND Palin, in spades. Obama speaks and plans WAY too much AntiAmerican things to even consider seriously as a national leader and occupier of The Oval Office and The White House. It could have been different, it’s possible, but it ISN’T, and we all know it. The Obama internet trolling team has also been more than enough to have to swallow. Their recriminations of Americans and America have been a little too incredulous to take. Ultimately, American voters, all across America, will have to speak their own mind with their own vote. Not Obama’s.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:11 am 66. nlcatter:

joe the plumber is
1 a liar
2 not a plumber
3 immaterial

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:13 am 67. nlcatter:

a jury is nver wrong? BS!

how about the Scopes Jury who would have loved Palin

and powell was not talking about finances
he was talking about word on policy matters

same as Bush has spoke up for ENRON lairs

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:15 am 68. Therese:

Let’s not forget. Kerry lost the election four years ago with the Democratic Party united. Kerry was not viewed as a Socialist either. Now you have a strong faction of the Democratic Party that is not going to vote for Obama – the Hillary voters. And you have people who do not want Obama the Socialist as President. Obama’s Socialism is scaring people!

BORIS: If you look at the main stream media polls, they are oversampling Democrats. This is what I am talking about. Here’s a link to one analysis that shows how Gallup is doctoring its polls:

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/10/27/gallup-in-the-tank.php

BORIS: Also, Boris, if Obama wins after all of us Christians praying around the country for McCain to win, then yes it is God’s will. But, don’t underestimate the power of Christian prayer. It is mighty powerful!

The election is not over until the votes have been fairly cast and counted. Then we’ll know God’s will for sure. In the meantime, we Christians are going to continue to pray for a McCain/Palin victory and believe the God will save us from Obama’s Socialism.

Already we’re seeing the power of prayer in this election. Who ever would have thought that Democratic Hillary Clinton supporters and Republicans would work together to elect John McCain? There is something powerful going on and it’s not the righteous wind at Obama’s back pushing him into the White House. It’s a righteous wind pushing him off the stage and into obscurity.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:15 am 69. Chaz:

I prayed (cause I’m a BYU fan) that BYU would either have an undefeated season or that McCain would win the Election.
Well, BYU lost.
In 2004, I prayed that the St. Louis Cardinals (because I’m also a STL Cards fan) that they would either win the World Series or Bush would be re-elected.
Well, The Red Sox won that year….
…and the Cards won in 2006.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:16 am 70. nlcatter:

ITS THE ECONOMY STUPID

(that being Rubin)

case before tens of thousands of cheering fans
of a lying bookburner

Americans have pretty much figured out that Mcccain is 90% BUsh

show me one false vote

ONE
ONE
ONE
ONE
ONE
ONE

you cant

now divided gov is the only true, logical staement you made, I do hear people worried about
all 3 braanched one – but since we had that once in the Country is is not FATAL

Manin reason Obama will win is MORONS like Rubin not showing the herd the truth

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:18 am 71. Robert Hurley:

Frank Logan – I have a bridge to Brooklyn you might be interested in buying

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:18 am 72. CitizenJones:

to Robert Hurley:
I may not be the most articulate person, but I know the difference between capitalism and socialism/Marxism when I see it, and I will vote accordingly. I know the difference between a man who has been tested, and has passed that test, to one who is untested, untried. I know the difference between one who wants to protect life, and one who has no qualms of allowing the least among us to die with the stroke of a pen. I know the difference between one who fights terror to one who colludes with it. I know the difference between one who desires to serve and one who courts adulation. I know the difference between sincerity and insincerity. I know the difference between such things not because I am glib, articulate, or sophisticated, but because I think, I consider, and I have seen the consequences of believing in something that is flashy and false. I am a American proud of my country and its constitution, and while I may not meet your high standards, I am a citizen with the right to vote. And I vote for John McCain.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:20 am 73. CitizenJones:

Pardon me, I dropped the “n” in an, just before American. Heaven forbid I not mention that and be called “warped.”

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:26 am 74. Jose Verde:

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

(pfew) Wait . . .

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:35 am 75. USAF Captain:

Mustang09 writes:

“Boris, the pollsters are overstating early votes for Obama by presuming that all early voters who voted in the Democratic primaries are Obama votes.”

Mustang, I hear tell that a recent count of party affiliations HERE IN CALIFORNIA (i.e., the BLUEST of the states) is running less than 1% more Democrat than Republican. In real numbers we’re talking something like 99,000 versus 98,000.

Whatever happens on election night, there will be one group who is surprised, Guar-ohn-tee.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:43 am 76. bob:

The so-called “liberal” media is only as liberal as the conservative companies that own them.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:48 am 77. USAF Vet:

TO BC:

Obama is a socialist, by any measure. he has NEVER held a real job that was not at the public teat. He has NO “real world” or military experience. You can vote for anyone and in Obama’s case be in the good company of ACORN, Gay Marriage, pro-Abortion, anti-military, appeasing, pacifist, pro-affirmative action, and many other so-called Americans.
By the way, here is something else to consider…a “conservative” African American like Ward Connerly or Justice Thomas (and many more) are considered “sellouts” by many blacks. So, how do we label all those smilin’ white faces at the Obama rallies? OOps! I forgot, that would be rascist…

“You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That’s a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.” Reverend (and I use the term loosely)Farrakhan speaks. Brack HUSSEIN Obama be praised.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:56 am 78. hahaha:

I have heard and read a tons of folks that say that “God” is on the side of John McCain, and because he is not immoral, he will win. So, if he looses, does this mean that “God” is not real, or maybe that he/she doesn’t listen to your prayers, or that he/she doesn’t get involved with politics? I bet non of the Christian Conservatives will accept any of those points, but if “God” chose the looser, what does that say about “God”. Or maybe it means that he is REALLY for Obama, and that Obama is not the baby-hating Islamist the CC would have us belive. Maybe he is a good American like most of us that has been creamed in the right-wing media.

By the way, socialism is not anti-capitalism. Socialism is NOT communism. The most productive workers in the world are from socialist countries. Socialist countries have higher standard of living, live longer, are healthier, make more money, have lower infant mortality rates, and more freedom than the USA. You can look up those facts, they are proven, and I HAVE looked them up.

So, let me get this straight, McCain supported and promoted the socialist bailout of the creditors, but free health for the people is anti-moral… ???? Yikes! Police departments, firefighters, public parks, public beaches, schools, roads, electric lines, military… these are ALL social programs administered by the government, which makes them socialist programs. America is only part-socialist, it just doesn’t have the good parts like free health care for everyone, good education, improved infrastructure, etc.

So go look up some facts before you start saying McCain is anti-socialist. He is not, and neither is Obama, and neither am I. I like roads and electricity and public beaches. Learn what socialism IS and what it IS NOT. It is not communism, it is not anti-capitalism (look at Europe), it is not BAD.

Obama will win, no doubt in that. The new generation is taking over, its the classic old vs new. New will win once again, and the torch will be passed on.

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:19 am 79. G.W.:

I tend to agree with both 1 and 2. How is that possible?

1. Indeed, I am bracing myself for an Obama victory. I will be pretty bad but perhaps not as awful as one might expect, and will set up the stage for a Repub come-back. Even on the issue of Israel, there is hope. Israel is about to elect Netanyahu as PM, and he is likely to totally ignore a President Obama. Besides it will be pretty comic to see France act more courageously than the US.

2. One thing I will dearly regret *if* McCain looses is seeing the MSM eat a heavy serving of crow.

–
GW

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:23 am 80. Frank Logan:

Robert Hurley, There are two kinds of liberals. The power seekers like Obama, Biden, Jesse Jackson, Gloria Steinham, etc., who understand what they’re doing by dividing & undermining America for their goal of short term power gains. Then there are the Dupes like you Robert, the True Believers, who despite all evidence to the contrary, believe liberal policies improve peoples lives. It is my belief, that there are more people in America, who believe in freedom & responsibility of the individual, than there are dupes like you. That’s why McCain will win this election.

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:31 am 81. Jane:

I know a great number of Democrats who are terrified of Obama (and won’t vote for him), and I know a great number of Republicans who are terrified of Palin (and won’t vote for McCain). We can all agree that this has been a wild election cycle, to say the least.

However, disagreeing with those on the other side of the aisle is not un-American, and having feelings of disappointment with the choices that have been made on our behalf is not unpatriotic. The reason we’re all so passionate about this election is because every single one of us who has contributed to this post, and to hundreds like it, both conservative and liberal, love this country. We all know that the US is the greatest country on earth, and we all want the best for our nation and it’s people.

However, name-calling, in good fun or in seriousness, does not accomplish anything, and never has. Certainly, there are issues that we can all agree on, and we need to find that common ground. Infighting within the Republican party and within the Democratic party is not healthy, and fighting against each other won’t accomplish the common goal we all need to work towards: Getting rid of Osama Funcking Bin Laden. Let’s not forget about that son-of-a-bitch who goaded us into this mess in the first place.

Let’s get that sh!t over with, get our guys home with pride, and fix this nation right.

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:33 am 82. Michael:

The new may take over but the ideas are old. They have been tried repetitivly for most of the last century and they have resulted in the reduction of wealthy people. Yay in your books no doubt. They have also resulted in the increase in poor people and a general decline in their standards of living for the average citizen.

A Brave New World indeed.

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:38 am 83. kevin c:

excellent article on redstate .com by the guy who for years headed gallups polling institute. he basically shows how the pollsters manipulate polls,overpoll in certain areas, and ask questions that are often leading and misleading. the polls should honestly be banned,they serve no useful purpose other than news orgs using them to create news,rather than do some actual reporting and investigation.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:01 am 84. Steve:

You Obamabots crack me up. Obama’s “easy, meteoric rise “??? First, he has the entire biased Liberal media shoving him down everybody’s throat, he has the entire Hollywood propoganda machine making him out as some kind of Holy “Messiah”, he has the affection of the entire democratic party, every Leftists in the world is stumpin’ and pumpin’ for him, not to mention the entire Marxist University system brainwashing our children with this “Hope Change” nonsense…Oprah Winfrey is “crying her eyelashes off” plus, plus HE IS OUTSPENDING McCAIN 4-1 IN DOLLARS…..AND HE IS ONLY 3 POINTS AHEAD IN THE POLLS????? That Is LAUGHABLE, utterly laughable…plus 6% of independents are still undecided? How Pathetic. Obama is an incompetant JERK!
Wise up.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:01 am 85. kevin c:

FOR US FOLKS WHO WOULD HAVE PREFERRED MITT ROMNEY-AT LEAST I CAN SAY ONE THING-THERS A RELATIVELY GOOD CHANCE ROMNEY WILL HAVE A HIGH POSITION WITHIN A MCSHAME ADMIN. BETTER ROMNEY THAN SAY ,A CROOKED COMMIE LIKE FRANKLIN RAINES OR LAURA DEANDREA TYSON. ONE MORE REASON TO KEEP THE AMERICA HATING COMMIE MOSLEM OBAMICOMMIE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:06 am 86. Boris:

“BORIS: If you look at the main stream media polls, they are oversampling Democrats.”

This sometimes happens with random sampling. But they sometimes oversample Republicans too. Some firms weight their samples to account for any sampling bias. Rasmussen, for example, does this–and adjusts the weighting every month based on six weeks of polling party affiliation.

This just isn’t an issue.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:21 am 87. Boris:

“ONE MORE REASON TO KEEP THE AMERICA HATING COMMIE MOSLEM OBAMICOMMIE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.”

You are a shining example of your race, by which I of course mean people who yell dumb things on the internets.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:26 am 88. imo furr:

this reminds me of an Old Joke:
a Republican boasts a manned space mission to land on the sun and is asked how he expected to survive the mission. He responded “We’re going to go at night.”

Oct 29, 2008 - 12:02 pm 89. MaskedMan:

#26 I can summerize your comments quicker than you.

WAR IS PEACE.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

“ALL HAIL THE ONE”…or else

Oct 29, 2008 - 12:24 pm 90. Jeff Weimer:

#9 vivo – yes there is evidence of vote tampering, google “brownlee ave” and click the first one up.

Yes, we remember 2000. Many accusations by the Gore campaign about the design of the butterfly ballot and “intentions” and “chads”, but they couldn’t find anything. Meanwhile, that very same campaign succeeded in throwing out 1420 absentee ballots from overseas military members because they didn’t have a postmark – a stamp(and thus a postmark) is not needed if being mailed from designated hazardous duty zones. Don’t tell me it was stolen. Three separate newspapers, including the NYT, counted every vote in the state and found Bush would have won anyway. So, the gore campaign in cherry-picking counties was guilty of attempted vote tampering.

Oct 29, 2008 - 12:28 pm 91. MaskedMan:

#82..Jane “let’s get our guys home with pride”

right…how about finish the job that’s being done quite well since, oh, I don’t know…the surge worked?

wake up…this is a volunteer service.

get over vietnam and quit being a nanny…big boys who volunteer don’t need your pity, so stop it!

Oct 29, 2008 - 12:30 pm 92. Believer:

Want to feel better? Check out how Pennsylvania looks for McCain:

hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/breaking-news-what-we-know-about-pennsylvania-right-now

He’s gonna take it, they say. Union members are lying to the pollsters because their bosses are checking on them. Democrats are raising money, working as they never have before, to get out the vote for McCain, etc.

Rendell is worried. For good reason.

Oct 29, 2008 - 12:43 pm 93. Ron J:

Boy are a lot of people gonna be mad on Wednesday morning, after McCain is announced the winner. Blacks and Liberals will declare McCain “stole the race” and likely there will be rioting and burning in some cities. Newspapers and the MSM will spend its last days vicously attacking the new President. Watch for it.

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:12 pm 94. Susan:

I pray to the good Lord that Obama does not win! All hell will break lose and I can’t believe how naive people can actually be. Look what party has been running the house and senate for the past two years and hasn’t everything gotten way worse-the Demo’s!!!!! And now the American people want to elect the most extreme Democrat to run the best country in the world. Wake up people~!!!!!!!

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:15 pm 95. CitizenJones:

To hahaha.
Redistribution of weath is socialist. The state mandating who works where, what the pay scale is, that’s socialist, closing in on Marxist. When Government makes the decisions of what is to be produced and how it is to be produced, that is socialist. As for socialistic countries being the most productive? Where? Europe? The more socialist they became, the worse their economies have become. Look at France. Look at Italy. Are these states any better than the US? Look at Britain and it’s horrible health-care system. Same idea with Canadians coming to the US to get better care. What about Russia? Marxism ran it into the ground. What about Asia? Only by embracing free-market capitalism has China become what it is. Japan and Germany are strong because they were rebuilt at the end of WWII by the US. And don’t tell me that poverty-striken India is better than the US. Look at the socialist states of Central or South America. Productive? Hmph. Cuba is a socialist’s Paradise and they drive 1950’s cars, live in poverty, and their health care system is a joke, unless your name is Oliver Stone. Socialism better than capitalism is a pipe dream. Capitalism means you work for yourself. Socialism is working for the state, and the state provides for you. Where is the incentive to be productive if you’ll be taken care of no matter what? Central Planning has shown itself to be a flat-out failure. By the way, Police, Fire Departments, Parks, these are not socialist programs, and to say so is to misunderstand the basic difference of socialism and social welfare. There’s a big difference, and it’s very obvious. Socialism is an ideology, and entails the restriction of Freedom of the common man. Social Welfare protects the Freedoms of the common man. Whew. When we have people who believe that the police and fire departments are embodiments of socialism, it is no wonder that Barrack Obama has gotten where he is right now.

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:22 pm 96. syn:

Barack Obama creates too much division and projects too much uncertainty for him to be able to win; that, and his supporters are really freaking people out with the over-the-top raging hatred seeping out of their souls.

Could Obama’s supporters chill out, your behavior is getting past the point of creepy.

Guarantee this will be reflected in the polls on Nov 5th, the day after the election.

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:41 pm 97. Winner:

Wow. I am simply amazed at the anger and blatant racism in the posts to this thread. This is the first time I’ve visited this site, but I will be back; you people are hysterical!
Unfortunately, after the Obama-led landslide next Tuesday, most of you will disappear….too bad…this drivel is priceless.
Keep the misguided anger coming…
GO OBAMA! GO DEMS!

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:45 pm 98. Dani:

Tom H.

God Bless You, I absolutely 100% agree!

Oct 29, 2008 - 1:56 pm 99. Keith Johnsen:

Forgive me, but who, specifically, is telling people and especially republicans the race is over? Howard Wolfson. Please name one major news source or journalist who has said unequivocally “The race is over.”

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:01 pm 100. Matt:

It’s absolutely game over for McCain. The reasons you publish are miniscule compared to the electoral vote mountain that McCain would have to traverse in order to win. Also, I find it hilarious that you don’t take into account the only reason McCain can still win- massive undemocratic voter suppression efforts on the part of the GOP.

The whole “socialist” crap is idiotic. The radio interview was taken waaaaay out of context, blown up by Drudge, and thoroughly debunked as a misinterpretation of legal rhetoric.

I just can’t get over McCain’s contradictions. He used to blast the Bush tax cuts as being stupid and politically motivated, and they are now the core of his tax policy. To this day he hammers Obama for wanting face to face diplomacy with dictators, yet he met with one of the most ferocious dictators, Pinochet! They attack Obama for being connected with a convicted felon, yet Palin RAN Steven’s PAC and worked closely with him! They blast Obama for “palling around with terrorists” when Palin is MARRIED to someone who belonged to a group advocating SECESSION from the US, and McCain is friends with a radio host who advocated shooting police in the head!

Regardless of all this crap, when you look at the policies, I’d take Obama any day of the week. Under McCain, conflict with Iran is inevitable (sanctions will NEVER work), but intense diplomacy may be able to prevent what would be an absolutely catastrophic conflict.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:01 pm 101. Butch:

So here we are down to the wire. I still can’t believe that Curious George is running for president. Yep I said it and I’ll tell you why. I have been accused of not liking Obama and not voting for him because he is Black. In my defense let me say this is not true; I won’t for him because he is inexperienced, period.. He has done more damage to this country by the way he is running his campaign and is stirring racial tensions in our country Tell you the truth I am really tired of African Americans using the Race Card. Cant we just vote for someone based sully on their merits? I prey he doesn’t get in; if he does we are in for a shit storm!

You know what I’ve been told by a couple of people as to why they are voting for Obama….They believe that he is the anti-Christ and they must vote for him…so that the prophecy can be fulfilled. Can you believe this! Lunatics!

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Oct 29, 2008 - 2:07 pm 103. dana:

I always say Never underestimate the sheer stupidity, blind ignorance & utter naivete of the Republican voter. I truly believe IQ tests should be given before you’re allowed to vote.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:07 pm 104. ProfPaul:

Obama is going to turn out to be a lot better than you fear. The game has to be played and he is campaigning hard, giving as good as he gets, but you might notice he avoids insulting Republicans and demonizing conservatives. McCain has run a campaign of fear, insult, and hatred. Haven’t we seen the dysfunctional results of divide and rule?
Please be prepared to give him a chance and not wallow in blind hatred and bitterness. We have had enough of that.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:09 pm 105. Nostradamus:

We should all prepare for the Obamanation that’s about to descend upon us courtesy of the dumb masses.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:13 pm 106. Joanne, Kenosha WI:

Bill Clinton said it a few months back that Obama will win by a landslide and the way the polls are looking I think is correct , we are going to see states that have been red for a long time turn blue next Tuesday, so McCain
can head back to AZ and Dimbo can go back to Alaska, History will be made with the first African American President. Obama/Biden 08

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:14 pm 107. ryan:

Or…John McCain can somehow squeek one by us…depart us early…and then we become victims of a Sarah Palin presidency. We will have mass rioting if that occurs. I can not think of a worse situation if she takes over..We will be inviting terrorists to come and destroy us. I’m sorry…I really wanted to vote for McCain in alot of ways…but he is a stupid…stupid man selecting her…he’s blown it…the republican party needs to self destruct and recreate itself – minus this evangelical group…get over it!

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:17 pm 108. laurie lewis:

This has to be one of the worst web pages I have ever seen. Blasting the MSM? Go Republicans! Yes you are so unbiased all of you, and so positive too! HAHAHA This is the most biased, poorly written journalism that I have ever seen! It is so poorly written and so “off” that it would be funny if it were so sad that there are so many truly ignorant people in our country..
Those of you who think McCain will win are being silly, I mean come on. Nobody wants Palin-she is a stupid silly woman with so much drama surrounding her , I feel like I have been watching Jerry Springer the past few months nonstop. And McCain? He is angry and most Americans have had it with this negativity and partisanship and his lies.
I know this will be a waste of time. There is something about those still voting Republicans-the intelligent ones have seen the light – they are SO narrow minded and not too bright! Just watch Fox. It is frightening – low class white trash Hannity spewing his hate and all of you gobbling it up as if it was truth.
Its sad you are all so angry and so full of hate that you can’t see the truth of what your party has become.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:18 pm 109. scotto:

I’m with #99. You people really are hard-core losers – and will be even more so after next Tuesday.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:23 pm 110. Anti-Obama:

To Winner:

You wonder why there is anger? It has to do with the utter nastiness with posts like yours. The way to have a civil conversation is to express your views, defend your views with EVIDENCE (not theory or hope), and come to a reasonable conclusion based on those aspects of your argument. Childishness such as yours only FUELS anger in ‘the other side’ because you can’t have an intelligent conversation with an infant.

As far as the racism – that is another aspect to the anger. It is frustrating to me personally to be called ‘racist’ for not supporting Obama – WHEN I AM A MINORITY MYSELF AND A FORMER DEMOCRAT. It is simply over the top to have someone question either of those things, as they are fundamental truth and I see it in the mirror every day and in the wastebasket every night when I throw away the 5 lbs. of literature I received that day from the DNC begging me to vote for Obama.

Regardless, in my state we have early voting and I already voted a straight Republican ticket…. the Democrats had the strongest candidate – Hillary Clinton. Putting Obama forth was a disgusting move on their part to overlook a qualified and seasoned candidate in favor of someone the masses are worshipping rather than using their critical thinking skills to examine. I can only hope more people vote a straight Republican ticket, because although Obama might win – it is IMPERATIVE that the Democrats not control EVERYTHING. I wouldn’t approve of EITHER side controlling everything, to be honest…. let alone the far-left lunacy of this current crop of Democrats.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:26 pm 111. GreenTheNewRed:

“most of you will disappear…”
Is this a guess or just what you expect the Democrats to do once they have power… Suppress dissent? We’ve already had a taste of that from the Obama camp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imz0qX8VQ2Q

The blackballed stations in Pennsylvania and Florida should also be included in the above video.

Does everyone remember the Paul Wellstone memorial? You know, the one where his Republican colleagues came to pay their respects and were booed by the Democrats. The one where they turned it into a political rally? The one that lead to massive defeats for the Democrats? What do we see in the Democrats today that is different from how they were then? Not much. They’re Democrats first and Americans…err… I was going to say second, but that may be too generous.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:26 pm 112. Anti-Obama:

Oh and by the by, as far as polling goes… last week my husband got a call from a polling company. They asked him if he was a registered voter – yes. They asked him his race – white. They hung up on him. ????? What on EARTH are these pollsters doing with the numbers???? They don’t want to even HEAR from a voting white male head-of-household? Hmmmm makes you think. I told them he should have told them that his wife is Hispanic and seen if they would bother talking to him then

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:30 pm 113. jwright40:

Are we in kindergarten? C’mon folks, this is easy.

1) Election day will indeed tell us the truth, but until then, have a look at the state polls (hint: not tightening).

2) As above, election day will lay the chips down, but, while the majority of white undecideds will go for McCain, this will all come out to about a 1% gain for McCain (according to some fancy, readily available, unbiased analytics – you might enjoy them). If the polls are to be believed, Obama’s lead is too insurmountable.

3) Right, all the college kids are going to stay in & party. Keep telling yourself that. More likely: SOME of the college kids will stay in & party (or sleep off a bender, or whatever those irresponsible jerks do in the mornings). But 2004 saw unprecedented awareness & turnout amongst these fickle youngsters – uprecedented, that is, 2008 came along.

4) This redistrubuting the wealth nonsense, from 2008 & 2001, was taken out of context. But we don’t like context on here, do we? No, of course not. Context=nuance, when soundbytes are much preferred. Hi: that’s what taxes do, fellas. We’ll always have to pay taxes. It’s the American way. Palin would know a thing or 2 about this supposed “socialism”, having distributed oil profits evenly among Alaskans.

5) This is a fair point. That’s one.

6) The conservative base were already going to vote this ticket, folks. If anything, reports of a running mate “going rogue” is a classic harbinger of an imploding campaign. Nothing to be proud of. In fact, you’d have done better to leave this out.

7) “In short, the ‘McCain=Bush’ pitch is wearing thin.” Based on what? No evidence of this whatsoever within the electorate. Rightwing commentators are widely lamenting that McCain waited far too long to distinguish himself from that winner. Perhaps it’s growing thin for the author, but this isn’t about you.

We have to hear about a left-wing “thugocracy” from a far-right commentator – that’s rich. In early voting, there are already articles “percolating up throught the blogosphere and talk radio and into MSM coverage” about problems at the polls that ultimately benefit a Republican win. Listen up: there’s voter fraud, I’ve no doubt, from extremists on both sides of the political spectrum. The candidates do not, in either case, instigate or condone it. Nor can the candidates stop it. Obama supposedly sleeping in the same bed as ACORN is hollow except to those who would never vote for him anyway.

9) This is a very good point. As an Obama supporter, this has me the most concerned. That’s two.

10) Oh, Rev. Wright again. “That message resonates with some segment of voters who simply can’t understand how Obama would tolerate, let alone embrace, such a figure.” – Yeah, which “segment,” d’you think? Perhaps the voters who wouldn’t vote for him anyway?

It is not over, Ms. Rubin. But it’s nearly over. You’ve got exactly two reasons why this might work out for McCain (Cross your fingers!), and you’re running out of time.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:34 pm 114. ARonHenry:

Whistling past the graveyard, and your ticket is in it. Obama’s got Kerry’s 2004 states locked up. Repubs attempt to take Pennsylvania is the most desperate attempt there since Pickett’s ill-fated charge. IA, NM, and CO put Dems over the 270 mark, and just for fun we’ll take VA and OH too. FL, NC, MO, IN, NV and now even GA, AZ, ND, and MT are in play. Your math just doesn’t add up. You just can’t steal enough states this year to make up for your terrible ticket.Good luck with Palin in 2012. You’re going to need it.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:39 pm 115. Matt:

114-
Did you ever wonder if that polling company was doing a poll of just African American voters? These companies often do specific polls, or have different quotas to fill in order to represent America at large. They probably had the right amount of whites, and needed to do the black/hispanic/other proportion.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:42 pm 116. Jeff Weimer:

Racism? Where? Where’s your proof? Is it just because we will vote McCain? Because we mistrust and even fear the policies he represents? It’s racist to merely disagree with people like winner, truth first, laurie and scotto? How DARE you. It brings to mind the term thoughtcrime.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:50 pm 117. Anti-Obama:

Matt (117)

Well if that is the case, then they did indeed overlook that it is a MIXED household – I am Hispanic, my husband is white our children are Hispanic/White. We were formerly STRONG Democrats, even though my husband is military. We voted faithfully Democrat for the last 20 years. This election changed us to now being registered Independents, and we voted McCain/Palin. Additionally, of course, there is the fact that normally we do not answer those types of calls anyway when they show up on Caller ID. How many people don’t bother with those calls? It can’t be just us.

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:57 pm 118. Terri:

57. The Wizard:

Thank you for the reminder!

WORDS FROM AND TO THE WISE

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’ s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves. — Abraham Lincoln

And 99. Winner:
Ridicule and sarcasm reveal weak character. You revealed yourself — not as a winner. Likewise, Obama speaks with sarcasm and ridicule thereby revealing himself — not as a winner. Scoff elsewhere 99!

Oct 29, 2008 - 2:58 pm 119. Tom:

You shmucks are obviously in denial. Hopefully you lived it up while “Dubya” and “The Shot Gun Kid” were in office, because it’s time for OBAMA and the rest of the Liberals to reak havoc all over your face!!!!!!!! Should’ve voted for the only intelligent Republican in Washington, RON PAUL!!!!!!!!

Oct 29, 2008 - 3:09 pm 120. Jane:

To Masked Man #93:

Get “over” Vietnam? Exactly what part of Vietnam should we get “over?” The power plays of the Joint Chiefs that sent US servicemen to their deaths in a war without end, the mental breakdowns of POW’s, the hostile environment soldiers’ felt when they returned home…shall I go on? Clarify for me, if you will, exactly what part of Vietnam we should “get over.” Also, before you post your answer for everyone to read, go talk to a Vietnam vet and ask if they feel the same way.

I’m well aware that the surge worked, and that’s something to be proud of. Patreus is a mastermind, and our military is second to none. But Osama bin Laden is still alive and in a cave on dialysis or something. That’s the point, that the guy who started this whole thing is still alive, and capable of something else just as sinister and evil.

And finally, since when is caring about our troops’ morale being a “nanny?” I know quite a few men who served in the Gulf War and the thing that pisses them off most is that they left without getting the job done. They’re still pissed. That should irritate everyone. I’d prefer it if that didn’t happen again. It’s not pity, it’s called pride. So yes, I’d rather be a “nanny” and have our “all volunteer” military come home with a huge notch on their belt than have them home and pissed that they left before they could accomplish what they set out to do. And the surge worked, yes, but that’s not an endpoint, and it came pretty late in the game.

Oct 29, 2008 - 3:09 pm 121. Michael:

Liberals come here and reply with character assasination and name calling. Unfortuntely some conservatives do also but all the liberals do. This course is taken when the poster has no logical arguments. If the Dems win then I expect these same people will call for (vieled)suppression of expression. It helps cut down on their embarrassment.

As for IQ tests, I have about the same IQ as Joe Biden. These tests are obviously a poor measure of anything.

Oct 29, 2008 - 3:31 pm 122. BC:

To USAF Vet: I hate to use a right wing term, but it sounds like you’ve drunk the “socialist” Koolaid that right wing nutcakes have been pushing from every dark alley. In case you haven’t been paying attention, there was a massive redistribution of wealth put into place a couple of weeks back that will affect people for a generation at least. Somewhat more benignly, public schools are a form of socialism, so are libraries, Medicare, Social Security, and a host of other programs that “redistribute” wealth for the greater health of the country — which means this “Obama is a socialist” crap is just that — more crap for the weak minded who swallow whatever garbage the RNC and its toadies toss out.

As far as military experience goes, that exactly didn’t help Kerry or hurt Bush during the last go round, did it? Nor did that help Al Gore, who enlisted in the Army during the height of the Vietnam War while Bush used his dad’s connections to get into a TANG “Champagne Unit” with other connected sons. Why do I suspect that you didn’t vote for either Kerry or Gore, “Mr. Vet”?

Anyway smart Presidents recruit the best and the brightest in their fields to do the bulk of the grunt work in figuring out policy and decision options. Do you really think McCain is going to attract anyone other than the same type of incompetent and corrupt shmucks that Bush did? As an example, go look up info on McCain’s foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann — he was one of the despicable PNAC ringleaders that formulated the moronic “remove Hussein” policy in the late 1990’s that Bush followed, using 9/11 as a convenient excuse. McCain having this sort of sleazy moron already on board in and of itself should be more than enough for anyone genuinely concerned about the direction and well-being of this country to vote for Obama over McCain.

Your country: Love it or vote McCain. It really is as simple as that.

Oct 29, 2008 - 3:55 pm 123. Wednesday:

#124 “BC” uses the same argument that the neo-Communists (YES, they are that) in Germany (”Die Linke” a.k.a. “The Left”) do: “oh, Socialism is in the Bible, so it’s nothing bad or even new.”

BLA BLA BLA.

Your relativism is all too clear to those readers here who are NOT trolls.

Please save it for your time at DKos etc. etc..

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:09 pm 124. January:

Wow…what happened to issues? Islam, God, Rev. Wright, “who is he”…those aren’t issues. Taxes, healthcare, national security, uh the horrific financial state our country is in, exporting jobs overseas, our country’s infrastructure etc…those are issues. John Mccain has said nothing new on any of those issues, Obama has. If you disagree with Obama based upon experience or the issues then say that all I have read is personal attack after personal attack, grow up. I could appreciate the pro-choice vs. anti-choice argument if the anti-choice screamers realized that avoiding pregnancy is the surest way to stop abortions. Mccain has been a roadblock for every womens health issue:

1. He voted to shut down the Title X family-planning program, which provides millions of women with health care services ranging from birth control to breast cancer screenings.

2. No on International Family Planning Funding for education, information, and services to help poor people around the world protect themselves from unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections.

3. No on Comprehensive Family Planning.

4. No to Protect Medicare Benefits for Low Income Families.

5. McCain OPPOSED REQUIRING COVERAGE OF PRESCRIPTION BIRTH CONTROL. In 2003, McCain voted NO on legislation to improve the availability of contraceptives for women and to require insurance coverage of prescription birth control. (Viagra is covered…hm, definitely not sexist)

I would prefer to say that rather McCain voters are not racist but sexist. Not only is McCain anti women’s health issues he is anti all women’s issues including but not limited to:

1. McCain Opposed Equal Pay Bill for Women, Said They ‘Need Education and Training’ Instead. McCain skipped a vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act that would ensure women have the opportunity to recover back pay for discrimination once they discover it. McCain said If he had been there to vote, he would have voted against it and that women “need education and training” rather than an equal pay bill.

2. McCain Opposes Accurate Sex Education Programs. McCain opposed legislation requiring that abstinence-only programs be medically accurate and scientifically based. He also voted NO on legislation that would help reduce the number of teen pregnancies by providing funding for programs to teach comprehensive, medically accurate sexuality education and other programs to prevent unintended teen pregnancies.

Palin aside, since McCain could have chosen, oh I don’t know off the top of my head…Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Linda Lingle (hm pro-choice no good there), Jodi Rell, Kay Granger, I could go on and on, there are governors in there all very experienced and all a credit to female politicians. Sarah Palin? What about even Condoleezza Rice…Sarah Palin is an affront to women everywhere, Sarah Palin someone found guilty of a violation of her states ethics act, thats the change we need.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:16 pm 125. venividivici:

This sometimes happens with random sampling. But they sometimes oversample Republicans too. Some firms weight their samples to account for any sampling bias. Rasmussen, for example, does this–and adjusts the weighting every month based on six weeks of polling party affiliation.

This just isn’t an issue.

Oct 29, 2008 – 11:21 am

If it’s a random sampling error, at least one poll should have shown McCain ahead by now, unless you really believe Obama is going to win by a landslide.

I do think people are lying to pollsters about voting for Obama. There’s actually a way to poll for that, but I haven’t seen anyone doing so. My gut tells me people are lying about voting for Obama, but that’s just from watching American politics all my life, not data from this election cycle per se.

I hope they are lying because I want Obama to lose. I already work nearly half the year for the state and I’m not interested in adding to that, regardless of the sweet rhetoric coming out of the Democrats mouths on why I should want to. Every Democrat in the United States can go &*%! themselves for all I care.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:34 pm 126. venividivici:

Every Democrat in the United States can go &*%! themselves for all I care.

Who supports Obama. Those Hillary Democrats supporting McCain are fine by me.

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:35 pm 127. Allan:

We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used. It is not even enough that it should have been gained without doing damage to the community. We should permit it to be gained only so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community. … The really big fortune, the swollen fortune, by the mere fact of its size, acquires qualities which differentiate it in kind as well as in degree from what is possessed by men of relatively small means. Therefore, I believe in a graduated income tax on big fortunes, and … a graduated inheritance tax on big fortunes, properly safeguarded against evasion, and increasing rapidly in amount with the size of the estate.

-Theodore Roosevelt (John McCain’s Hero)

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:37 pm 128. Chip:

It looks like Obama will now try to hang out with some of the most honest people he knows. Obama will try to separate himself from the likes of Wright, Rezko, Ayers, etc…

So who is at the very top of Obama’s most honest people list?

…Bill Clinton

Oct 29, 2008 - 4:51 pm 129. Allan:

It’s interesting, how far and how irresponsibly our country has shifted to the right. I think it is time that our country moved back in the direction of fairness, freedom and equality not of means but opportunity. That is change that Obama represents. That is why barring a tragedy of epic proportions he will be the elected President a week from now.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:02 pm 130. meater maid:

Conservative base? What year do you think it is 2000, 2004? Either way highly ridiculous.

Rev. Write played for three straight weeks in the dem primaries, you think its going to turn McCain’s battle ship around now?

Get ready, the latte drinking socialists are about to take over!!!!

See you November 4th, I can’t wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:21 pm 131. 6G9:

If McCain wins, it will be very, very close. I was confident of his chances when he selected Gov. Palin as his running mate. Then, my gut started to tell me we were in trouble, up until about two weeks ago. Now I honestly think McCain does have a fighting chance. I’m going to cast my vote on Tuesday, go home, leave TV off, and wake up to a hopeful America (McCain) vs. “uh oh, we’re in big trouble now,” (Obama). That’s about all I can do at this point. If Obama takes it, then I’ll pray for the GOP to raise at least enough seats for a filibuster. I’m not going to dreamily suppose this is going to be easy, but if the undecideds and the no-Obama votes swing right we have a chance. I have to say, I am dismayed that certain conservative pundits would pick this time to harpoon Gov. Palin. Talk about selfish and self-destructive. Sometimes we GOP suporters can be our own worst enemy. At this time, McCain/Palin is our ticket and it’s not wise to slam our own team 5 minutes before the final whistle. Well, d**n the torpedoes and full speed ahead. At the VERY least, as a veteran, I’d be happy to see lumox Murtha sink hard and fast. What a jerk. After that, I’ll be hiding my guns, bibles and pro-veteran publications before the thought police come knocking on my door (I will keep one of each handy for daily reference…both a gun and a bible). I am one of those folks who clings to both and they won’t get either one from me very easily.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:31 pm 132. nathalie:

Do you know that the Colombia FARC terrorist group also endorsed Mr Obama Hussein,The Colombian Goverment found in the Loptop of Reyes the terrorist that was killed by Colombian Military. I also went to you tube where you type Obama confesses that he is Muslim and at the begining of the tape everything seems fine and when he probably was saying something about his religion his speech was cut off instead someone placed a dsico video for the rest of the tape.Obviously we know who is covering all this evidences the president of Facebook who is working for his campaing.I just can believe that the L.A Times cares more about a party that the national security of this wonderful country.

Oct 29, 2008 - 5:33 pm 133. Jeff Weimer:

Alright, this is what I’m talking about. And only a small dollop of condescension to go with the argument. Thank you jwright40. Now, for my re-rebuttal:

1) True, but state polls are lagging indicators to the national poll. We’ll see for sure in the next few days.

2) I’d like to see these analytics, you may very well have a point. I think we agree that polls are generally untrustworthy. My experience – those in the lead tend to believe them more. Major case of polls failing – Ohio 2004. Not to prove McCain will win, but to reinforce the point polls may be wrong for many reasons.

3)2004 may have been unprecedented (and it did little to offset the increase Bush had in 2000), and 2008 may be even more, but the history going back has shown it ALWAYS underperforms expectations. So don’t count on the youth vote too much.

4)I would like to understand the context as you see it. The “Joe the Plumber incident” was a simple exchange, and Obama said it very plainly. It’s also in line with his stated desire to raise the capital gains tax out of fairness, even though it may result in less revenue to the treasury. The 2001 incident is more troubling. After listening to the realaudio( http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/audio_library/ram/od/od-010118.ram ) from Chicago Public Radio and reading the transcript, the context of that conversation seemed to be the civil rights movement. That moves the focus of the discussion from socioeconomic status to that of race, making his talk on “redistributed change” about reparations for slavery and Jim Crow. Not the context many in and out of the conservative base would agree with.

5) We agree, no comment.

6)True, we would have probably held our nose and voted McCain, but only as a protest vote against Obama. Not a winning formula – Kerry lost running as not Bush. There’s still a strong element of “NoBama” this year and it worries me the most. You win by having someone to vote FOR, not against and that’s Obama’s greatest strength. Palin “going rogue” could very well be overstated. You can’t win for losing – hang on to her tightly and she’s “not ready”, let her loose and she’s a “rogue”.

7) McCain=Bush is an effective argument, they’re both Republicans. However, I invite you to read this post by Dan Mclaughlin at redstate: http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/oct/29/john-mccain-joe-biden-and-the-integrity-gap/, especially section C – Maverick. Yes, it’s a right leaning blog, but this post is quite comprehensive, if quite pro-McCain. I figure if you’re willing to come here, you’d be willing to take a look there. It gives quite a long rundown of where he broke with Bush and/or his party. The 90% with bush meme never takes into consideration that that 10% includes some of the most highly visible and contested legislation in the past 10 years or the 97% with-party percentage of Obama, and Obama has NEVER taken a principled stand against his party, or worked across the aisle on anything controversial or for the sake of just doing the right thing, if his party didn’t want it.

8 ) Thugocracy is probably too strong and too incendiary a word but the treatment of various people who have embarrassed or are a threat to Obama is, if not quite criminal, then unethical in the extreme. But coming from a right-winger is rich? How? No matter, the way that Palin, Joe Wurzelbacher, David Freddoso, Stanly Kurtz, the Florida anchorwoman, and others have been savaged by the Left has been nothing short of breathtaking. Palin’s family – not off limits even after Obama said it should be, and Andrew Sullivan is the worst of the lot. Joe – asks one question and everything potentially embarrassing is thrown out, no matter if it’s pertinent to anything. the Anchorwoman is now getting similar treatment – did you know her husband was cited for not wearing his seatbelt? And they’re both Republican? Why is that so important? There’s PLENTY of democrats in or related to media figures and that never seems to be a problem. In the case of Kurtz and Freddoso, the Obama campaign itself prompted it’s followers to attack those two when being interviewed on the radio. Oh, and the Obama campaign demanded the DOJ investigate a 527 because they ran an ad the campaign merely didn’t like. Maybe not a “thugocracy, but maybe too eager to squelch dissent and debate by any means necessary.

You’re right, extremists in both parties will attempt to skew the results in their favor. It’s also equally true that this year at least, officials and groups allied with the democrats are VASTLY more involved with vote fraud – and they don’t seem to care. In Ohio, 200,000 registrations with incorrect verification information are allowed, but registrations submitted by the McCain campaign are rejected because they didn’t check a box. In Virginia, a democrat county registrar is rejecting military registrations (a favorite of democrats, see Gore 2000 Florida) due to a technicality while going out of his way to register prisoners and non-resident students. All arguably legal, but it begs the question of loyalty. ACORN is the most prominent and egregious example, and his past close association with them is quite relevant, not hollow. And to borrow a phrase, those who are going to vote for him won’t care.

9) Same as 5), no comment.

10) Yes, and it confirms our worst fears. Those who would vote for him respond exactly as you do. You don’t care. I personally can’t see how it couldn’t bother you, but it is what it is. Now, Wright, Ayers, ACORN, Rezko, et al could be the crux of a larger fundamental problem with the Obama campaign. with all of his advantages – prodigious (and possibly unethical or illegal) fundraising, message discipline, excited followers, the economy, Bush, and a poor McCain campaign – he should be up by at least 15 points and take this in a walk. That it is this close is telling and I think those people are why. If he didn’t have these troubling associations in his past, which give insight to his character and ideology, it would be his year walking away.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:02 pm 134. kastaco:

To # 90, Most people on the left will have no idea where those quotations came from. That’s why they will vote Obama

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:36 pm 135. wpb:

Allan – as long as you’re quoting Teddy Roosevelt to club McCain, here’s a few that I like:

“If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn’t sit for a month.” (certainly true for most of the posters on this thread)

“Nine-tenths of wisdom consists in being wise in time.”
(Guess we’ll find out how wise a 48 year is pretty shortly )

“Probably the greatest harm done by vast wealth is the harm that we of moderate means do ourselves when we let the vices of envy and hatred enter deep into our own natures.” (I don’t know if Obama is doing this consciously or unconsciously, but the 2001/2008 comments about income redistribution smack of class warfare, and as Teddy wisely counseled, this leads to vices that pollute our own being. Nobody wins here.)

“The first requisite of a good citizen in this republic of ours is that he shall be able and willing to pull his own weight.”
(I guess he could not foresee the New Deal or Great Society reforms – wonder what he would say now)

“The most practical kind of politics is the politics of decency.”
(in short supply everywhere it seems)

“The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life. ”
(If conservatives/republicans are guilty of the prosperity at any price/get rich quick mentality that many posters seem to label them with, then liberals/democrats have to look in the mirror and see their safety before duty(to country) and peace at any price mantra as just as dangerous – but logic tells me they won’t)

“There can be no fifty-fifty Americanism in this country. There is room here for only 100% Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else.”
(I think this is my favorite since to speaks to what made this country great, and why we struggle today, with our emphasis on multi-cultural-hyphenated-national-identity.)

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:40 pm 136. Allan:

To Kastaco, The quote comes from George Orwell’s “1984″. You might want to look him up. He would have been much more likely to support an Obama over a McCain. He was leftist, antifascist and an anticommunist.

Oct 29, 2008 - 6:58 pm 137. luke:

A vast majority of my friends and I have already voted or waiting for their absentee ballots to arrive. we are all college kids. Besides two (one mccain and one nader) we are all voting obama. The only shame is that we are from massachusetts so our votes only really count towards the three propositions and who will represent our state districts over in beacon hill. Please do not discredit us “youngsters” cause you failed to get off your stoned asses/ drunk butts when you were our age.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:00 pm 138. Frank Logan:

Matt, Dana, Profpaul, Joanne, Ryan, Laurie Lewis, Scotto, JWright40, AronHenry, Tom, Bc, and January. Your comments show you are Dupes at best. Anybody who thinks liberal policies actually help people is ignorant. On Nov. 5th each of you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why your such dumb sh!ts.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:01 pm 139. nlcatter:

God would be on side of man who does not divorce his wife

hmm

that would be

hmmm

OBAMA

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:22 pm 140. Allan:

I would like to address the fallacy of a voter registration scandal. ACORN like most organizations that hire people to do the actual voter registration. In most states they are required to turn them whether they appear fraudulent or not. Another point that seems to be purposely overlooked, a false registration does not equate to a false vote. There is also no evidence whatsoever that voter fraud is taking place anywhere. As a Democrat complaints of voter suppression is a much bigger issue that has gotten little to no coverage. Fortunately this election unlike 2004 our candidate is probably strong enough to overcome it.

Oct 29, 2008 - 7:23 pm 141. myth buster:

Re: President Palin

Oh would that McCain wins the election and resigns the next day! I would love to see a President Palin. As for terrorists, they ought to be terrified of a President Palin. If she is half the loon you liberals think she is, she would start nuking Islamic holy sites. The Republican Party’s biggest mistake was not nominating Mike Huckabee. No offense to Ron Paul fans, but Paul had no viable plans on how to implement his various ideas. A great idea that you can’t execute is worthless.

Huckabee-Palin-Jindal: the Republican Presidents for the next generation.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:02 pm 142. Karl Marx:

Hey nathalie,

Did you know that your specialized brand of racism and delusion will no longer be required after November 4th? Just sayin’.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:28 pm 143. Believer:

(Former)Democrat speechwriter, Wendy Button, is now voting for McCain.
Earlier this election cycle, she worked for Edwards, Obama and Clinton.

Yahoo: so long democrats wendy button

to read her reasons for leaving the party. For one, she’s come to really respect Palin. And her party? Not so much.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:29 pm 144. Marconi:

Too complicated!

Simply get massive robo-call campaigns telling people that Obama is a black, Arab, Muslim.

Heck, have Palin start her speeches condemning blacks, Arabs and Muslims, and reminding everyone that Obama is one of them.

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:35 pm 145. MJB:

Those of us who are old enuf to remember “Laugh-In” remember the much- used comment of a very perceptive observer of idiotic incidents; “Very interesting, but shtupid! It reminds me of what our national reaction to the political campaign/election process should be but isn’t. If any major corporation was seeking to hire a CEO, the personell director would sift through resumes to find the most highly trained, most experienced, most competent of all the applicants who had a proven track record of accomplishments relevant to the company’s objectives, and various personal attributes that would serve the company’s good image, not the least of which would be honesty, integrity, etc. So, how do we select a man to be the CEO of our country. We have a popularity contest and allow the MSM to divert us into arguing about every form of trivia instead of the real issues – about how many houses he has or the cost of the wardrobe etc. ad nauseam. Have we gone mad. Let’s get real. WE are the personnel directors and WE do the hiring and WE do it with our votes. So take a good look at the resumes all you democrats and try to justify that what this country needs badly is a community organizer/junior senator who has voted nothing but the liberal party line in his ‘extensive’ political career. If the American public is so gullible as to be swayed by the Obama smoke & mirrors routine & we have to suffer him as President, we’ll all be compelled to look back at our selection methodology & say “very interesting-but shtupid”! MJB

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:40 pm 146. Darren:

“Voters are getting one last reminder that for twenty years Barack Obama had the closest of relationships with Wright and sought inspiration and political support from the hate-spewing pastor” And this “hate” you speak of is dissimilar from much of the comment on this site, how?

Fear and ignorance make dangerous bedfellows….

Oct 29, 2008 - 8:44 pm 147. jojopublican:

Secret, Foreign Money Floods Into Obama Campaign

Monday, September 29, 2008 9:23 PM

By: Kenneth R. Timmerman Article Font Size

More than half of the whopping $426.9 million Barack Obama has raised has come from small donors whose names the Obama campaign won’t disclose.

And questions have arisen about millions more in foreign donations the Obama campaign has received that apparently have not been vetted as legitimate.

Obama has raised nearly twice that of John McCain’s campaign, according to new campaign finance report.

But because of Obama’s high expenses during the hotly contested Democratic primary season and an early decision to forgo public campaign money and the spending limits it imposes, all that cash has not translated into a financial advantage — at least, not yet.

The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee began September with $95 million in cash, according to reports filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC).

The McCain camp and the Republican National Committee had $94 million, because of an influx of $84 million in public money.

But Obama easily could outpace McCain by $50 million to $100 million or more in new donations before Election Day, thanks to a legion of small contributors whose names and addresses have been kept secret.

Unlike the McCain campaign, which has made its complete donor database available online, the Obama campaign has not identified donors for nearly half the amount he has raised, according to the Center for Responsive Politics (CRP).

Federal law does not require the campaigns to identify donors who give less than $200 during the election cycle. However, it does require that campaigns calculate running totals for each donor and report them once they go beyond the $200 mark.

Surprisingly, the great majority of Obama donors never break the $200 threshold.

“Contributions that come under $200 aggregated per person are not listed,” said Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the FEC. “They don’t appear anywhere, so there’s no way of knowing who they are.”

The FEC breakdown of the Obama campaign has identified a staggering $222.7 million as coming from contributions of $200 or less. Only $39.6 million of that amount comes from donors the Obama campaign has identified.

It is the largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.

Biersack would not comment on whether the FEC was investigating the huge amount of cash that has come into Obama’s coffers with no public reporting.

But Massie Ritsch, a spokesman for CRP, a campaign-finance watchdog group, dismissed the scale of the unreported money.

“We feel comfortable that it isn’t the $20 donations that are corrupting a campaign,” he told Newsmax.

But those small donations have added up to more than $200 million, all of it from unknown and unreported donors.

Ritsch acknowledges that there is skepticism about all the unreported money, especially in the Obama campaign coffers.

“We and seven other watchdog groups asked both campaigns for more information on small donors,” he said. “The Obama campaign never responded,” whereas the McCain campaign “makes all its donor information, including the small donors, available online.”

The rise of the Internet as a campaign funding tool raises new questions about the adequacy of FEC requirements on disclosure. In pre-Internet fundraising, almost all political donations, even small ones, were made by bank check, leaving a paper trail and limiting the amount of fraud.

But credit cards used to make donations on the Internet have allowed for far more abuse.

“While FEC practice is to do a post-election review of all presidential campaigns, given their sluggish metabolism, results can take three or four years,” said Ken Boehm, the chairman of the conservative National Legal and Policy Center.

Already, the FEC has noted unusual patterns in Obama campaign donations among donors who have been disclosed because they have gone beyond the $200 minimum.

FEC and Mr. Doodad Pro

When FEC auditors have questions about contributions, they send letters to the campaign’s finance committee requesting additional information, such as the complete address or employment status of the donor.

Many of the FEC letters that Newsmax reviewed instructed the Obama campaign to “redesignate” contributions in excess of the finance limits.

Under campaign finance laws, an individual can donate $2,300 to a candidate for federal office in both the primary and general election, for a total of $4,600. If a donor has topped the limit in the primary, the campaign can “redesignate” the contribution to the general election on its books.

In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Texas.

Mr. Good Will listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You.”

A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25.

In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375.

Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a net cumulative balance of $8,950 — still well over the $4,600 limit.

There can be no doubt that the Obama campaign noticed these contributions, since Obama’s Sept. 20 report specified that Good Will’s cumulative contributions since the beginning of the campaign were $9,375.

In an e-mailed response to a query from Newsmax, Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt pledged that the campaign would return the donations. But given the slowness with which the campaign has responded to earlier FEC queries, there’s no guarantee that the money will be returned before the Nov. 4 election.

Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad,” from “Nando, NY,” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations, most of them for $25. For most of these donations, Mr. Doodad Pro listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You,” just as Good Will had done.

But in some of them, he didn’t even go this far, apparently picking letters at random to fill in the blanks on the credit card donation form. In these cases, he said he was employed by “VCX” and that his profession was “VCVC.”

Following FEC requests, the Obama campaign began refunding money to Doodad Pro in February 2008. In all, about $8,425 was charged back to a credit card. But that still left a net total of $11,165 as of Sept. 20, way over the individual limit of $4,600.

Here again, LaBolt pledged that the contributions would be returned but gave no date.

In February, after just 93 donations, Doodad Pro had already gone over the $2,300 limit for the primary. He was over the $4,600 limit for the general election one month later.

In response to FEC complaints, the Obama campaign began refunding money to Doodad Pro even before he reached these limits. But his credit card was the gift that kept on giving. His most recent un-refunded contributions were on July 7, when he made 14 separate donations, apparently by credit card, of $25 each.

Just as with Mr. Good Will, there can be no doubt that the Obama campaign noticed the contributions, since its Sept. 20 report specified that Doodad’s cumulative contributions since the beginning of the campaign were $10,965.

Foreign Donations

And then there are the overseas donations — at least, the ones that we know about.

The FEC has compiled a separate database of potentially questionable overseas donations that contains more than 11,500 contributions totaling $33.8 million. More than 520 listed their “state” as “IR,” which the FEC often uses as an abbreviation for “information requested.” Another 63 listed it as “UK,” the United Kingdom.

More than 1,400 of the overseas entries clearly were U.S. diplomats or military personnel, who gave an APO address overseas. Their total contributions came to just $201,680.

But others came from places as far afield as Abu Dhabi, Addis Ababa, Beijing, Fallujah, Florence, Italy, and a wide selection of towns and cities in France.

Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United Nations, including such friendly places as North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently. Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be accepted.

With such lax vetting of foreign contributions, the Obama campaign may have indirectly contributed to questionable fundraising by foreigners.

In July and August, the head of the Nigeria’s stock market held a series of pro-Obama fundraisers in Lagos, Nigeria’s largest city. The events attracted local Nigerian business owners.

At one event, a table for eight at one fundraising dinner went for $16,800. Nigerian press reports claimed sponsors raked in an estimated $900,000.

The sponsors said the fundraisers were held to help Nigerians attend the Democratic convention in Denver. But the Nigerian press expressed skepticism of that claim, and the Nigerian public anti-fraud commission is now investigating the matter.

Concerns about foreign fundraising have been raised by other anecdotal accounts of illegal activities.

In June, Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a public speech praising Obama, claiming foreign nationals were donating to his campaign.

“All the people in the Arab and Islamic world and in Africa applauded this man,” the Libyan leader said. “They welcomed him and prayed for him and for his success, and they may have even been involved in legitimate contribution campaigns to enable him to win the American presidency…”

Though Gadhafi asserted that fundraising from Arab and African nations were “legitimate,” the fact is that U.S. federal law bans any foreigner from donating to a U.S. election campaign.

The rise of the Internet and use of credit cards have made it easier for foreign nationals to donate to American campaigns, especially if they claim their donation is less than $200.

Campaign spokesman LaBolt cited several measures that the campaign has adopted to “root out fraud,” including a requirement that anyone attending an Obama fundraising event overseas present a valid U.S. passport, and a new requirement that overseas contributors must provide a passport number when donating online.

One new measure that might not appear obvious at first could be frustrating to foreigners wanting to buy campaign paraphernalia such as T-shirts or bumper stickers through the online store.

In response to an investigation conducted by blogger Pamela Geller, who runs the blog Atlas Shrugs, the Obama campaign has locked down the store.

Geller first revealed on July 31 that donors from the Gaza strip had contributed $33,000 to the Obama campaign through bulk purchases of T-shirts they had shipped to Gaza.

The online campaign store allows buyers to complete their purchases by making an additional donation to the Obama campaign.

A pair of Palestinian brothers named Hosam and Monir Edwan contributed more than $31,300 to the Obama campaign in October and November 2007, FEC records show.

Their largesse attracted the attention of the FEC almost immediately. In an April 15, 2008, report that examined the Obama campaign’s year-end figures for 2007, the FEC asked that some of these contributions be reassigned.

The Obama camp complied sluggishly, prompting a more detailed admonishment form the FEC on July 30.

The Edwan brothers listed their address as “GA,” as in Georgia, although they entered “Gaza” or “Rafah Refugee camp” as their city of residence on most of the online contribution forms.

According to the Obama campaign, they wrongly identified themselves as U.S. citizens, via a voluntary check-off box at the time the donations were made.

Many of the Edwan brothers’ contributions have been purged from the FEC database, but they still can be found in archived versions available for CRP and other watchdog groups.

The latest Obama campaign filing shows that $891.11 still has not been refunded to the Edwan brothers, despite repeated FEC warnings and campaign claims that all the money was refunded in December.

A Newsmax review of the Obama campaign finance filings found that the FEC had asked for the redesignation or refund of 53,828 donations, totaling just under $30 million.

But none involves the donors who never appear in the Obama campaign reports, which the CRP estimates at nearly half the $426.8 million the Obama campaign has raised to date.

Many of the small donors participated in online “matching” programs, which allows them to hook up with other Obama supporters and eventually share e-mail addresses and blogs.

The Obama Web site described the matching contribution program as similar to a public radio fundraising drive.

“Our goal is to bring 50,000 new donors into our movement by Friday at midnight,” campaign manager David Plouffe e-mailed supporters on Sept. 15. “And if you make your first online donation today, your gift will go twice as far. A previous donor has promised to match every dollar you donate.”

FEC spokesman Biersack said he was unfamiliar with the matching donation drive. But he said that if donations from another donor were going to be reassigned to a new donor, as the campaign suggested, “the two people must agree” to do so.

This type of matching drive probably would be legal as long as the matching donor had not exceeded the $2,300 per-election limit, he said.

Obama campaign spokesman LaBolt said, “We have more than 2.5 million donors overall, hundreds of thousands of which have participated in this program.”

Until now, the names of those donors and where they live have remained anonymous — and the federal watchdog agency in charge of ensuring that the presidential campaigns play by the same rules has no tools to find out.

CLARIFICATION

The original version of this story, published on this Web site Sept. 29, reported that the “IR” listed on 520 overseas donations is “often an abbreviation for Iran.”

However, FEC spokesman Bob Biersack said Oct. 7 that “IR” generally means “information requested,” not Iran. “That’s often, but not always, what it means,” he said.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:09 pm 148. james chen:

In Hitler’s eyes, whoever not a Nazi is a socialist/marxist.

Oct 29, 2008 - 9:29 pm 149. Ed Wallis:

More on the “fourth” reason (spreading YOUR wealth…):

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/the_repugnance_of_socialism.html

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:03 pm 150. nlcatter:

GOP gov arne , gover weld, senator pressler, sen from RI + gop congressman

what elected offical was speechwriter Button?

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:05 pm 151. Ed Wallis:

Some thoughts of the “fifth” reason (”national security”…”international crises”):

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/vote_for_national_survival.html

Oct 29, 2008 - 10:22 pm 152. Jephnol:

“There is a reason why people talk to republicans like children.”

“I find it hard to imagine that most of you beleive the nonsense you post here, the hate a rhetoric is amazing. For all the crying and whinning, I did not see anyone make a single reason not to vote for Obama…”

“Hopefully that will wake the right up and they can shed the ignorant mentality…”

“case before tens of thousands of cheering fans
of a lying bookburner…”

“Manin reason Obama will win is MORONS like Rubin not showing the herd the truth…”

“You people really are hard-core losers…”

“I am simply amazed at the anger and blatant racism in the posts to this thread. This is the first time I’ve visited this site, but I will be back; you people are hysterical!”

“I always say Never underestimate the sheer stupidity, blind ignorance & utter naivete of the Republican voter. I truly believe IQ tests should be given before you’re allowed to vote.”

“Nobody wants Palin-she is a stupid silly woman…”

“There is something about those still voting Republicans-the intelligent ones have seen the light – they are SO narrow minded and not too bright! Just watch Fox. It is frightening – low class white trash Hannity spewing his hate and all of you gobbling it up as if it was truth.
Its sad you are all so angry and so full of hate that you can’t see the truth of what your party has become.”

“You people really are hard-core losers – and will be even more so after next Tuesday.”

“You shmucks are obviously in denial. Hopefully you lived it up while “Dubya” and “The Shot Gun Kid” were in office, because it’s time for OBAMA and the rest of the Liberals to reak havoc all over your face!!!!!!!!”

“To USAF Vet: I hate to use a right wing term, but it sounds like you’ve drunk the “socialist” Koolaid that right wing nutcakes have been pushing from every dark alley.”

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Sexism. Racism. Cultural elitism. How many of you fine people think of yourselves as progressive?

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:11 pm 153. allmymarbles:

Obama can afford to lose Indiana, Florida, North Carolina, Missouri, and Virginia (he is ahead in all of them). In addition to the states he holds solidly he needs either Ohio or Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico (he is ahead in all of them). Obama could conceivably lose the popular vote, but I don’t see how he could lose the electoral vote.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:34 pm 154. Dennis:

Message to all you quaint folk who say McCain can win…..
The world is round and Obama will win the election for President by a mile.

Oct 29, 2008 - 11:42 pm 155. Pajamas Media » Ten Reasons Why McCain Doesn’t Have a Prayer:

[...] My PJM colleague Jennifer Rubin penned a column yesterday in which she listed the “Ten Reasons Why McCain Could Still Win.“ [...]

Oct 30, 2008 - 1:02 am 156. vivo:

91. Jeff Weimer:

“Yes, we remember 2000 . . . but they couldn’t find anything.”

When a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, does it make a noise?

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:40 am 157. Tom West:

Four years ago, the Republicans won the presidency, a majority in the Hosue and a majority in the Senate. However, I cannot recall anybody ever saying that this outcome was a reason not to vote Republican.
Now, Democrats have a chance to hold all – and all of a sudden it’s “bad”. What’s the difference?

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:27 am 158. huxley:

To the Obama sourpusses who keep beating their gums here: Sure, according to the polls Obama has the advantage and he may very well win next week. There is no denying that.

However, polls aren’t the last word and that’s why we vote on election day. And it’s a fact that polls are sometimes mistaken and sometimes by surprising margins — remember Hillary Clinton coming back from the dead in New Hampshire despite the polls to defeat Obama?

Then there was the 1992 UK election where the polls had Labour ahead by 1% but on election day the Conservative party won by 7.6%.

Pollsters explained that as the “Shy Tory Factor.” It was unfashionable for citizens to say that they supported the Conservatives, but that is what they did in the voting booth.

I’m betting that there is a very strong “Shy Republican Factor” this year. Wherever the last polls place Obama, you can be sure that he will not do as well, when the votes are cast.

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:14 am 159. Winner:

Yeah…people here aren’t racist…they just refer to Senator Obama as “Curious George.”
I hope President Obama and the Democratic Majority proceeds the way I am planning to do the next 4 years;
Simply ignore the blathering from the GOP. Your time has come and gone. The GOP is ill-equipped to deal with 21st Century issues. The democrats will simply govern and ignore the stupidity from the Right.

Look at the bright side: at least you won’t have to stay up late next Tuesday night!

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:19 am 160. utznpt:

Ponder the following:

What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including
a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe
disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while
he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain
killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
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You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality,
do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in
another when there is a skin pigment difference…

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:53 am 161. solo:

In your hearts you know Obama is a brain dead idiot. A vote, any vote for this guy is national suicide and the left knows it.However, they are so consumed with hatred for GWB that it doesnt matter. McCain will win this despite the presses insistance that the race is over. Americans, real Americans the ones living in fly-over country dont like being told what to do by elitest SOBs from NY and LA. Obama is nothing more then the “white guilt” candidate hopefully when he loses he will take his foreign campaign money and disappear.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:13 am 162. Francis:

U.S. Catholic Bishop Rene H. Gracida Releases Radio Ad Stating no Catholic can Vote for Barack Obama in Good Conscience
MEDIA ADVISORY, October 24 /Christian Newswire/ — Today – perhaps in an eleventh hour answer to prayer for the unborn – Bishop Rene H. Gracida has released a stunning radio ad concerning Catholics voting for Barack Obama. His ad is recorded in English and Spanish.
Bishop Gracida boldly states:
“This is Bishop Rene H. Gracida, reminding all Catholics that they must vote in this election with an informed conscience. A Catholic cannot be said to have voted in this election with a good conscience if they have voted for a pro-abortion candidate. Barack Hussein Obama is a pro-abortion candidate.”
The commercial can be heard in English and Spanish at http://www.randallterry.com.
Bishop Gracida has offered this radio spot without charge for all who want to use it. All faithful Catholics are invited to download the mp3 file, and place this ad on their local radio station(s).
They must simply contact their local radio station(s), and pay for the ad as an “independent expenditure.” The station can download the audio file to play on the radio. The mp3 file is also available at http://www.randallterry.com.
Moreover, permission is granted for the ad to be downloaded, sent as a file, or posted on any web site in America.
If this ad receives the airplay it deserves, it could sink Obama’s campaign by jolting Catholic voters back to their senses and moorings. Over 50% of Catholic voters have been seduced into ethical quicksand by errant Catholics who are partisan supporters of Obama and have betrayed the lives of innocent unborn children.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:25 am 163. COLONEL:

This was a message from a highly decorated and one of the most respected intelligence agents in the world. His last warning words to his beloved country before he died last month.
Remember what I said. It is true and part of a misinformation plan is to make the truth look paranoid. Just look around and see the media and DNC parroting the party line. The Christian Religion is evil. Homosexual is normal. Patriotism evil. Rebellion and changing the Constitution normal. Disarm the citizens normal. NRA and hunters evil. The Military and heroes evil. Anti military and ridicule heroes normal. Success and hard work evil. The government owes me normal. Shocking this is right out of the handbook of communist and Islamic terrorism guides to revolution and over throwing a country. Schools teach the government is evil and socialism utopia normal. Divide the races through agitators and media. Destroy marriage and the families. The state is the parent. Call evil good and smear and destroy good. Look at the Hollywood crowd. McCarthy was right and history has proven it. They flock around dictators and tyrants Chavez, Castro, Iranian, and Syrians. Wake up and vote for McCain if you want freedom. After 40 years of Intelligence service I can just say look and watch. Look at Obama’s friend’s Islamic Marxists terror operatives. Rev. Wright Marxist preacher of Racist Hate and division. William Ayers Marxist radical terrorist. Farrakhan Muslim Marxist. Research the hidden years at Columbia University. Also the overseas trips. Victor Marchenco, Mohamud Kioj, Sayad Kael, Fhaad Hussan these are a few of the Islamic and KGB friends who financed and open doors here through contacts. I am not long for this earth. A Terminal Sickness has attached to me. I want to warn my beloved country.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:32 am 164. January:

Obama will be the next President of the United States and all you racist, sexist, war mongering right wing nuts will just have to get over it. I have gladly drunken the “kool aid” as one of you crazies so eloquently put it…especially since “kool aid” is obviously code for open-mindedness, fairness, respect, intellect, honesty and patriotism.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:32 am 165. OBAMAIACK:

The Obama retirement plan. I love it, we want to tax and take your money and possessions so we can spread your wealth among us. I will not have to work for that a corn to hustle fake votes. They said the more fake votes the bigger cut of your wealth we will get. Us Obamiacks were told when the master Messiah is elected we will party on your working backs. I want your carand your house . you will just give me your money. I just love Obama’s tax plan. Retirement brought by the messiah and commie leader Obama

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:34 am 166. judy:

OBAMA IS A MARXIST SOCIALIST.
AMERICAN SOLDIERS FOUGHT AND DIED AND SHED BLOOD FIGHTING MARXIST. WE WILL NOT ALLOW IT HERE. OBAMA GAVE ACORN OVER A MILLION DOLLARS TO STEAL YOUR VOTES. WITH THE STOLEN VOTES HE THEN CAN HAVE A SUPER MAJORITY IN THE SENATE AND HOUSE (VETO PROOF) HUSSAIN OBAMA’S PLAN IS TO STRIP YOU OF YOUR FREEDOM, RELIGON AND YOUR BELONGINGS! THEN HE WILL GIVE IT TO HIS MARXIST SOCIALIST FOLLOWERS. HE THEN BECOMES YOUR MARXIST EMPEROR! THIS IS WITH OUT A SHOT BEING FIRED.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:35 am 167. Otis:

That is so good I love the Obamiacks!
For all the Obamiacks out there I love the Obama Retirement plan I want your money! Now many others and I can learn this new Retirement plan. I can live off of you big fat white boys out there. I do like to live it up so make my Retirement plan a big one. I love this, so work hard for me.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:36 am 168. brit:

Wow, having decided that I should learn a little more about the thoughts of real Americans on the campaign that, more than any before, has dominated our media I am truly shocked by some of what I have read here…such shallow, personal and misguided attacks seem highly inapropriate in such an important debate. Surely, all that should really matter is the policies and leadership skills of your future president?

In response to the mention of the UK’s ‘horrible’ health service, at least we have one – I have an American friend who is going to die of cancer in her friend’s spare bedroom because she had to sell her house to pay for treatment but the money has now ran out, why didn’t she have insurance? Because no-one would insure her as she had been ill before. I am thankful that this sort of injustice would never happen here.

I genuinly believe Obama offers hope not just to Americans but to the world, however I am willing to accept that McCain has an exemplary record and is an honourable man – albeit one older than my grandfather. Also, I think Palin is fantastic and will one day – not next week though – be a force majeure in world politics, but then I always loved Thatcher, so what do I know?!

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:38 am 169. Robert G:

“THE WAY THAT EVIL TAKES OVER THE
WORLD, IS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING”
Do you want an anti-American in the White House? …

Learn More … Click the links below:
http://www.afreeamerican.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=29
http://www.afreeamerican.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:42 am 170. Robert G:

OBAMA ADMITS TO HIS MUSLIM FAITH
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5109659552747814411&hl=en

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:43 am 171. Robert G:

Bishop reminds Catholics to remember Judgment Day in the voting booth
Bishop Robert Herman
St. Louis, Oct 18, 2008 / 08:03 am (CNA).- Bishop Robert J. Herman, the administrator of the Archdiocese of St. Louis, has written a column reminding Catholics that their vote will be a decision weighed on the Day of Judgment. He urged Catholics not to treat the unborn as the neglectful rich man treated Lazarus in the biblical parable.

“Judgment Day is on its way,” the bishop wrote in the St. Louis Review. “We cannot stop it. We don’t know when it will come, but just as surely as the sun rises daily, the Son of Man will come when we least expect.”

“For many, this coming election may very well be judgment day, for this election will measure us,” he continued, referencing Christ’s words of judgment in Matthew 10:32-33:

“Everyone who acknowledges Me before others, I will acknowledge before My heavenly Father. But whoever denies Me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father.”

Bishop Herman asked the faithful to consider what kind of witness they give to God when they enter the voting booth on Election Day.

“The decision I make in the voting booth will reflect my value system. If I value the good of the economy and my current lifestyle more than I do the right to life itself, then I am in trouble,” the bishop wrote.

He cited Pope John Paul II’s apostolic exhortation Christifideles laici, which said outcry on human rights is “false and illusory” if the right to life is not defended to the maximum.

“The right of our children to be protected from destruction is greater than my right to a thriving economy,” Bishop Herman continued.

“My desire for a good economy cannot justify my voting to remove all current restrictions on abortion. My desire to end the war in Iraq cannot justify my voting to remove all current restrictions on abortion.”

Bishop Herman looked to the spiritual dimension as well.

“Those 47 million children our nation destroyed are still living. We have destroyed their bodies, but their souls are still alive. When our Lord comes again, they may very well be there to judge us. Even worse, Jesus tells us that whatever we do to the least of our brethren, we do to Him. We would truly shudder if we heard the words, ‘I was in my mother’s womb but you took my life!’

“It is quite possible that we might see these children, but, depending upon the choices we have made, we may very well be separated from them by a great chasm which cannot be crossed, much as the rich man who ignored Lazarus, the poor man, during his lifetime here on earth but was separated from him after death.”

Bishop Herman said the “deepest problem” with many Catholics is that they have become accustomed to rationalizing away a “life of sinful actions” headed in the wrong direction.

“My goal is not to engage you in some political party way but to engage you with our Savior and His teachings. We need to constantly challenge our accustomed behaviors in the light of the Gospel,” he wrote.

He said the issues of the coming election could help people learn about the teachings of the Catholic Church and to use the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

“When we do this, both we and the heavens will be filled with

Bishop reminds Catholics to remember Judgment Day in the voting booth

Bishop Robert Herman
St. Louis, Oct 18, 2008 / 08:03 am (CNA).- Bishop Robert J. Herman, the administrator of the Archdiocese of St. Louis, has written a column reminding Catholics that their vote will be a decision weighed on the Day of Judgment. He urged Catholics not to treat the unborn as the neglectful rich man treated Lazarus in the biblical parable.

“Judgment Day is on its way,” the bishop wrote in the St. Louis Review. “We cannot stop it. We don’t know when it will come, but just as surely as the sun rises daily, the Son of Man will come when we least expect.”

“For many, this coming election may very well be judgment day, for this election will measure us,” he continued, referencing Christ’s words of judgment in Matthew 10:32-33:

“Everyone who acknowledges Me before others, I will acknowledge before My heavenly Father. But whoever denies Me before others, I will deny before my heavenly Father.”

Bishop Herman asked the faithful to consider what kind of witness they give to God when they enter the voting booth on Election Day.

“The decision I make in the voting booth will reflect my value system. If I value the good of the economy and my current lifestyle more than I do the right to life itself, then I am in trouble,” the bishop wrote.

He cited Pope John Paul II’s apostolic exhortation Christifideles laici, which said outcry on human rights is “false and illusory” if the right to life is not defended to the maximum.

“The right of our children to be protected from destruction is greater than my right to a thriving economy,” Bishop Herman continued.

“My desire for a good economy cannot justify my voting to remove all current restrictions on abortion. My desire to end the war in Iraq cannot justify my voting to remove all current restrictions on abortion.”

Bishop Herman looked to the spiritual dimension as well.

“Those 47 million children our nation destroyed are still living. We have destroyed their bodies, but their souls are still alive. When our Lord comes again, they may very well be there to judge us. Even worse, Jesus tells us that whatever we do to the least of our brethren, we do to Him. We would truly shudder if we heard the words, ‘I was in my mother’s womb but you took my life!’

“It is quite possible that we might see these children, but, depending upon the choices we have made, we may very well be separated from them by a great chasm which cannot be crossed, much as the rich man who ignored Lazarus, the poor man, during his lifetime here on earth but was separated from him after death.”

Bishop Herman said the “deepest problem” with many Catholics is that they have become accustomed to rationalizing away a “life of sinful actions” headed in the wrong direction.

“My goal is not to engage you in some political party way but to engage you with our Savior and His teachings. We need to constantly challenge our accustomed behaviors in the light of the Gospel,” he wrote.

He said the issues of the coming election could help people learn about the teachings of the Catholic Church and to use the Sacrament of Reconciliation.

“When we do this, both we and the heavens will be filled with joy!” he asserted.

“Judgment Day is on its way,” he repeated, encouraging people to pray the family Rosary daily between now and Election Day.

In a previous column for the St. Louis Review, Bishop Herman urged Catholics not to put politics ahead of the Fifth commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.”

“Save our children!” he wrote. “More than anything else, this election is about saving our children or killing our children. This life issue is the overriding issue facing each of us in this coming election. All other issues, including the economy, have to take second place to the issue of life.”joy!” he asserted.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:50 am 172. Alan:

To whom it may concern:

CC: President George W. Bush

Senators of the United States

Supreme Court Judges of the United States

CIA, FBI

All military personnel

All others, national, state and local that have sworn an oath to the Constitution of the U.S.A.

I am Joe the window cleaner. Surely a high school graduate like myself is not the only one asking the question:

Is Barak Obama a natural born citizen?

Where is the CIA, the FBI and the President of the United States?

Do you know the answer?

Why will you not tell us the truth?

!!! Would you please tell the rest of us so this question can be settled before the election, please!!!

If he is not, then we are witnessing a great attack against the Constitution of the United States.

If he is not, then we are witnessing one of the greatest frauds since the founding of our great country.

If he is not, then why is he running for the office of the President of the United States?

I believe the President is empowered by the Constitution to see that the laws of this country are “faithfully executed.”

If he is not a natural born citizen, then why would we think he would do anything else written in the Constitution.

A great man once said, “He that is faithful in that which is least, is faithful also in much.”

I am praying for our country.

For your consideration:

Military Oath

“I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

US Constitution

From Article. II. – The Executive Branch

From Section 1 – The President

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

From Section 3 – State of the Union, Convening Congress
He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:54 am 173. David:

The nonsense I have read in these comments is…just…incredible. Let me remind you that “the most liberal” Bill Clinton left the White House with a surplus, while the current GOP President has ground the economy into the mess we see today and managed to inflate the deficit to a staggering half a billion in 2008. And the last thing he got to do while in office was to nationalise our financial system. And you call Obama a Marxist? Do you even know what it means or are you spewing speaking points like Palin, blithely ignorant of what you are saying? And to compare Thatcher to Palin is a huge insult to any conservative and any Briton I know: Thatcher was an intellectual, with a degree from Oxford. Palin should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as her.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:08 am 174. nlcatter:

surplus under Bill clinton?
gee why would we want a Surplus again?

GOP deficits are cool

anyway Mccain will not make up 6 points by 4 days

BYE BYE

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:18 am 175. Should I laugh of cry?:

A quick note on terrorism, and other concerns:

A great deal of you posting on this site concerning the death or capture of Osama Bin Laden make it sound as if this event would herald victory in the war on terrorism. This is incorrect, and misrepresentative of the conflict we are now engaged in throughout the world. Al Qaeda means “the base” in Arabic, and this name is revealing; Al Qaeda is a massive network of like-minded individuals with no definite system of authority and no clear hierarchy. That’s what I mean when I call Al Qaeda a network. For this reason killing Osama doesn’t mean victory unless it’s an ephemeral, feel-good ideological victory. Osama is, at this point, a symbol. He probably has very little strategic or tactical guidance in ongoing operations against Western (i.e. European and US targets) targets. His role today is mostly inspirational.

Killing him won’t mean victory. In fact, our generals have said there isn’t likely to be victory as you sheep still seem to conceptualize it, with flag-waving parades and big, gaudy MISSION ACCOMPLISHED signs. Victory probably will mean a delicate peace. Violent global Islam doesn’t need one leader. Its leader is a set of shared goals and ideals, not any one man. And this may come as a shock to you, but terrorism existed long before 9/11 in differing forms. We’re not the first to face it; we won’t be the last to face it.

What about Iraq?

McCain talks about Obama wanting to ‘abandon’ Iraq. Consider this:
Right now Iraqis are considering rejecting a plan to let US stay in Iraq past 2009. Do you uneducated right-wing know-nothings understand what this means?

If our presence is rejected by the Iraqis themselves, based on the system of governance we helped them to create, then we have to honor their decision and leave the country we helped them build. Otherwise, we haven’t helped them build anything but a giant American base in the Godforsaken, sand-blasted desert. And isn’t that exactly what we’ve been telling the whole world we aren’t doing? So what does it matter how committed we are to staying if the Iraqis ask us to leave?
The sooner we get out the sooner we can intensify our efforts in Afghanistan and seek a mediated peace there, too. Do you know this war has been going on longer than World War II?

You’re worried that Obama didn’t serve in the military?

Please explain how this can concern you when, in 2004, you elected a man who was saved from having to go to Vietnam by joining a posh flying unit that never deployed in favor of a man that had actually been sent there. I challenge ANY of you clowns to explain this contradiction.

History books will write that George W Bush lit a match that sparked the fuel of a global fire. Had there been no 9/11 he would just have been a steward president, a quaint anachronism to another time in a different, more peaceful, time-for-baseball America.

But we all know 9/11 did happen. And that was only the start of our trouble.

McCain should have been the president in 2000. That was his time. Now, like it or not, the country will swing left again. In the future it will swing back to the right, like it always has. National political leanings are a great see-saw. Which is one of the reasons our founding fathers argued against faction (i.e., party politics)… but that’s another story.

It is also FANTASTICLY ironic that a right-winger would quote George Orwell. He would have appreciated the irony in that, I think. I suspect the poster of that comment has never read 1984, or much else for that matter. But, I suspect that not many of you have.

Yeesh, now I’m all worked up. I wash my hands of this circus forum of God-squad hate preachers, quasi-fascist American patriots, disgruntled Vietnam vets that still can’t accept (understandably) the way their country abandoned them and their war and think it’s happening again (it’s not), and wanna-be authorities on Marxism.

One last note, on Karl Marx

I guarantee that 99% of you that are worried about Obama being a Marxist can’t explain the central tenets of Marxism. This is evident by the fact that you confuse it, in your ignorance, with socialism. SPOILER ALERT: It’s got more to it than some nebulous concept of “redistribution of wealth.” And since many of you louts are probably in the lower-middle class and below anyway, you could probably stand to have a little redistribution, eh?
Before you fly off the hinge, ask yourself if you can explain either Marxism or Socialism, or (laugh) give a comparative analysis of the two. Can you? Can you really? And if the answer is yes, congratulations, you are perhaps not a sheep. I give you too little credit. If the answer is no, which I suspect it will be, then realize that in railing against Obama for being something you don’t understand but just have a vague understanding of as ‘bad’, you are a victim of political conditioning, and this pseudo-reasoning makes you feel the anger your puppet masters want you to feel. This, for example, is when you should be quoting Orwell, maybe something along the lines of “Ignorance is Strength!”

By the way, to all MY RATIONAL RIGHT, LEFT, AND INDEPENDENT BROTHERS AND SISTERS, expect some blockhead to post the differences between Marxism and Socialism on this site that is pulled straight off of Wikipedia in the near future- it’ll happen! Watch out!

People were so angry when Obama said that you unfortunate denizens of the fly-over states ‘cling to guns and religion’ because you know, in your hearts that he was right. It’s all you’ve got, though I admit it is rather powerful. It elected Bush (twice!), but then it’s always nice to think someone cares about you and your quaint way of life.

Before I sign off, I’ve got another little quote for you, though I’m SURE no right-winger would ever dare use this one:

The times, they are a-changing.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:18 am 176. tomw:

159 Tom West
Now, Democrats have a chance to hold all – and all of a sudden it’s “bad”. What’s the difference?
…
A good possibility of a Senate without the filibuster to slow the Democratic Party from enacting all kinds of things. With less than 60 of one party, 50%+1 is not enough to pass legislation.
tom

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:27 am 177. brit:

To David, my dear, I am a Briton, I am a Conservative and I am also supporting entirely your point of view. The lack of understanding demonstrated by many of the right wing veiws expressed here is truly shocking. I just hope that this is the voice of a small enough minority. Most of the western world is currently rooting for Obama, and wants to see America recover to the great nation it has the enviable ability to be.

On the subject of Palin, one must admit that she does have some qualities – passion, determination, commitment, fervour – that may one day see her becoming an exceptional poilitian, given a lot more experience and education. These same qualities are shared by true conviction politicians the world over – including Lady Thatcher. to compare the two would be ridiculous as you say, but then so would be to write off all the positive qualities of your republican candidates…

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:48 am 178. January:

MARXIST?!?! I finally understand why the GOP demonizes education, if we had an educated electorate the filth and lies that spew from the mouths of the neocon’s, Palin included, would be dismissed as the laughable and contemptible deceptions that they are. Before people start throwing around the word marxist look it up, figure out what it means…EDUCATE YOURSELF.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:52 am 179. Michael:

This is a racist election. There is no doubt about it. I agree with the liberals entirely. If Obama was more than half white he would be loosing by 30%. This election is racist as hell.

An saying that Americans used to pay heed to is “Actions talk louder than words”. If one looks at Obama’s history over the last 20 years then the only conclusion is that all his wonderfull speechs this election are written by an entirely different person. This wouldn’t bother me so much if he admited that he has had a profound change of heart. Since he hasn’t I can only conclude that he he is a hypocrit in the worst political way.

Actions mean vastly more than words.
Actions mean vastly more than words.
Actions mean vastly more than words.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:03 am 180. Different Michael:

This is a racist website. Also challenging the Mainstream Media is dangerous, being as they’re the only ones performing (something close to) real journalism. The thing about these manipulative pseudo-news blog sites is that linking statements to other blog sites doesn’t constitute actual journalism, it’s just one fraud supporting another. Do real research and report it. If you want to editorialize, label it as such! Don’t be misled people, period. If you take everything you’re told at face value then you deserve another Bush.

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:20 am 181. MJ:

Did someone actually mention drugs on this posting? That is not an issue in this race. Nearly 70% of all American adults have partaken in some sort of illegal drug, the other 30 percent lies about it. Let’s talk about vices.
Did you know that McCain is an avid gambler? He has spent thousands of dollars on the tables in Arizona and Vegas? Did you know that his wife had a drug addiction? Did you know that her family is the largest distributor of drugs in America?

Yes, alcohol is a drug! Don’t think otherwise…more people die from alcohol and its effects every day than any other drug on this planet.

Oct 30, 2008 - 11:49 am 182. Michael:

Some people have no idea what racism is obviosly. The mainstream media is so biased that they are now irrelevent.

I know a good number of people who have never done illegal drugs. Just because those are not the people you surround yourself with does not change the truth. And by the way, I know plenty of ones that did. The ones that had the good sence to quit. The ones that didn’t I don’t continue the relationship.

Yes you hate this sight and you can’t wait to suppress different opinions. Don’t be so eager to end someone elses 1st Amendment rights. Your will be next.

Oct 30, 2008 - 1:03 pm 183. Paul Litwin:

Tom -
You ignorant slut..only kidding. Here’s your problem. I do believe in a higher power but you actually believe that G-d only cares about the United States and what you believe in. He might be busy next Tuesday working on the Middle East, or causing and earthquake, or whatever she wants to do. That’s the problem with “us Americans” we have gotten so self absorbed and greedy we can not see anybody elses ideas or ideals. Might makes right? Semper FI

Oct 30, 2008 - 1:53 pm 184. Paul Litwin:

Jennifer-
you ignorant slut…only kidding. The election is over!
Why? The Irish bookmakers have already paid off bets made on Obama. I am sure you are not aware of this but bookmaker;s rarely make a mistake! Really! Semper FI

Oct 30, 2008 - 1:55 pm 185. indyhawk:

You “full-mooners” gotta get a grip! BO inspires your hatred (only more so)like WJC–Why don’t you just come out and say what you really think; that BO’s a “N****R” (AND a LIBERAL, o-m-g!!!)? All these code words like socialist, Muslim, etc. are silly! Y’all are about on vibrate already, what’ll you be like on 5 Nov.? Levitating in frustration?? God bless the USA!!! Viva democracy!!!

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:03 pm 186. Paul Litwin:

Why are McCain/Palin still in PA? Where do you want them to go? Minnesota oh they lost that state and pulled out. Florida maybe? Ohio maybe?
McCain or at least the Republican Party picked Palin. I think it wasn’t McCain since he had met her for 15 minutes. They tried to pander to the female, hockey mom’s.
The problem. There are no hockey mom’s in FL,CA, and most of the lower 48. This game is over. Now you can bitch for four years or eight

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:04 pm 187. JL:

Perhaps you should take your own advice, January…

Marxism – n. The political and economic philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in which the concept of class struggle plays a central role in understanding society’s allegedly inevitable development from bourgeois oppression under capitalism to a socialist and ultimately classless society.

So, please, explain now how classifying BHO’s entire philosophy as Marxism is so ‘laughable.’ After all, his fabricated portrayal of an oppressive upper class is exactly what he has been running on since, well, his first political campaign was launched in a self-proclaimed Marxist’s living room.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:32 pm 188. Mike:

Palin is the problem unknown on the Republican side. Even the McCain folks have no idea what she will say when they actually let her talk. Joe the Plumber’s helper is also a liability (novelty) he will go the way of all of America’s novelties (William Han? Omerosa?) and make a few million with no talent then disappear. For so many to listen to a semi educated illegal plumber is amazing. For your information, the State of Ohio requires a plumber’s license to work as a plumber and so does the County where Joe’s employer is located. For that matter, Joe’s boss has no County license either. Wake up people. Doing the same thing (Bush’s policies) and expecting different results is one definition of insanity. What the Government has been doing over the last 8 years has not worked and if we get 4 more years of it, most of us may not be able to work either, because the jobs will continue to go offshore, like our money has.

Oct 30, 2008 - 2:52 pm 189. January:

I have JL and even with your cut and pasted definition I fail to see where Obama shows anything resembling marxism. There is a disparity of wealth in this country and if you would also read about capitalism you would realize that in order for capitalism to work there needs to be a flow of currency throughout all levels of society otherwise capitalism would fail. Look it up, when 10% of the country owns 90% of the wealth that isn’t Capitalism that is an Oligarchy. Capitalism fails under an Oligarchy and calling Obama a marxist or communist is ignorance. Show me where he wants the government to control industry and housing…oh yeah Bush has already done that. If anyone should be called a marxist he should. Finally that lie regarding Obama “launching” his campaign in the living room of William Ayres just proves my point. Show me proof, besides your talking heads that keep circulating that lie. Show me a board, besides the ONE admitted to that they sat on together, show me anything else that connects the two, besides you just repeating it. On the other hand McCain freely admits being friends with G. Gordon Liddy, who served four and a half years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of Daniel Ellsberg. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in “if necessary”; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a “gangland figure” to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap “leftist guerillas” at the 1972 Republican National Convention. During the 1990s, Liddy instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot ATF agents. Hmm…I guess John McCain really can make better choices.

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:13 pm 190. dick bohanon:

boy you guys are bitter.
can we expect you to embrace pres. barak
as much as you expect me to embrace pres. mccain?
that would take mature adult behavior.
sorry for even imagining.

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:30 pm 191. Ed Wallis:

Obama MUST be in a panic…THE TROLL ARE OUT TONIGHT!

#179 “brit” can’t spell British English (fakes it with the wrong words…funny!).

TOO MANY OTHERS receive “dishono(u)rable mention”
(NOTE TO TROLL “brit”: not EVERY “o” word is “ou” in British English!!!)

McCAIN/PALIN seem to be resonating with Americans…FINALLY.

ABOUT TIME…for NOVEMBER 4th!

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:42 pm 192. RRydberg:

Dear Jennifer,

With all the far right ( Christians?)voting and praying, you forgot reason #1: A MIRACLE.

Oct 30, 2008 - 3:55 pm 193. nick:

I made money from betting mccain would lose
I am so happy

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:09 pm 194. Annie:

I appeal to all voters for the truth. The Democrats are sexist and flat out mean. They destroyed Hillary a woman. Then they try to destroy Palin. The left wing lesbians and gays want to destroy any normal woman so they can promote their agenda. They want to destroy marriage and Christian beliefs. Before communists can take over they have to destroy morals and family then religion. Obama and the democrats are anti American communists. Look at cuba and third world countries this is what Obama offers

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:23 pm 195. Xavier Cugat:

Drill Baby Drill

Oct 30, 2008 - 4:45 pm 196. Suzy:

Excuse me, but the election is NOT over. It is not over till the fat lady sings. All votes have not been cast or counted. I believe Americans to be loyal citizens and I pray that the majority have not lost their sense of values and common sense that the good Lord gave us.

I am proud to be an American, and would hate to have that changed by someone that refuses to salute our flag. My choice is the man who served his country proudly and refused the favoritism that would have let him out of thet hell hole in a POW camp during the Vietnam era.

I want to see a proud and victorious America that does not retreat in defeat. An America that is not turned into a welfare state, but the land of opportunity to achieve dignity and pride. You don’t achieve that sense of pride living on government handouts. Those handouts produce a society that is lazy, demanding, and unappreciative.

Eloquent speech, though it looks good on tape, is not worth anything if they are just words. I believe America will get out of the “Obama Trance” and wake up. How much of your “wealth” are you willing to give up during this time of economic down turn? Do you really want the government fleecing your pockets and deciding that they can manage your money better than you can?

Think about it and think about it hard. Is the “Obama charm” and the influence of a media that is bias worth the price that we true AMERICANS will have to pay?

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:14 pm 197. Tim H.:

Hey Jennifer you know why you are wrong! The national polls don’t mean anything. It’s what’s going on in states that matter. McCain is TIED or Obama slightly up in Indiana. I am in Indiana Jennifer. If Indiana is flirting going blue for Obama. McCain is gonna lose his butt. In fact McCain’s only hope is to win every state in play and flip Pennsylvania which he is behind by double digits. Not to mention he is behind in almost every state in play. But Jennifer the beginning of your article that MSM media is telling voters don’t vote is hogwash. MSM media is not affecting the outcome. It’s natural to report who is winning and who is losing. McCain is losing. He’s losing and yet Jennifer alot of Republicans refuse to say “hey what has become of my party to lose like this.” Instead you bitch and blame MSM, alcorn, the boogeyman etc… Get a clue jennifer. It’s right there on your nose! The Republican party has lost it’s way. I voted for Reagan in 84. Where is that party. I never saw Reagan attack an opponent the way McCain has. Look at the articles on this website. “Obama’s secret Chicago ties.” “Coverup of that tape.” What BS. COLIN POWELL endorsed Obama!!! Oh he did it cause he black… Obama is advised by generals, Warren Buffet, Paul Volker etc… Yet you want to portray him as some kind of monster. STOP IT!! JUST FREAKING STOP IT!!!!

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:22 pm 198. bwah bwah bwah:

Oh how I relish reading all of your comments. Oh how you all cry and whine and lie and spew racism and all the BS you believe that has no basis in fact or reality. I can’t believe there are so many millionaires out there.

I don’t care anymore. I don’t care what vile crap comes out of your fingertips and onto this site. Because you will all cry and cry and cry.

Oct 30, 2008 - 5:36 pm 199. nick:

destroy hillary?

so thats why she is out CAMPAIGNING for Obama?
because she was destroyed?

your mind is what is DESTROYED!

Oct 30, 2008 - 6:18 pm 200. R. Stritmatter:

Jen, hon, I clicked on your link supposedly referencing the tightening of the national polls, and guess what, I don’t see anything on the cited page that supports your contention. And since when does “You see lots more “4s” and “5s” and many fewer “8s,” “9s,” and “10s.”” — whatever, exactly, that is supposed *really* mean, add up to “the guy with the -4 and -5 percent is going to win”? Huh? You say it means that “voters aren’t yet fixed on a choice.” It doesn’t mean that at all. It means that some people are still rearranging the deck chairs on the great ship Titanic of the Republican party. Your devotion to ‘ol Man McCain is touching, but your reasoning just doesn’t hold much water.

You attack the “MSM” for supposedly peddling misinformation, but you don’t seem to realize that it is credible bloggers, like those at http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/, who are increasingly the sources of information for a web generation. And they have a credibility you lack, because they are fact based, not faith based.

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:24 pm 201. R. Stritmatter:

PS–

You also state that “Bush in 2004″ “tapped into the conservative base.” This is simply not correct, and shows that you don’t bother to do the research required to make your views credible before you publish them to the world. Actually, Bush had a huge fall off in rural “base” voters in 2004. Here is a link to the analysis that proves you wrong:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0706/S00165.htm

Oct 30, 2008 - 7:27 pm 202. BeJay:

Tom H. ……Finally someone else sees what’s really happening here. Amen.

Chip # 130

LOL

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:08 pm 203. Believer:

Heard Mark Steyn warning earlier today that he expects the Media to try to discourage voters in the West from voting. Well, anyone west of the Florida panhandle, he says. They’ll be reporting it’s a landslide for Obama, he’s heard.

So no matter what you might hear reported throughout the day, get to the polls and cast your vote! You know you can’t trust the Media. And exit polls are unreliable as well.

Let’s make sure the right team wins this. He can do it! We want two people whose values we share and whose word we can trust.

And to defeat Obama would send a clear message to the In-The-Tank-For-Obama-Media that they can take a hike too. We’re not putting up with it any more.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:16 pm 204. JAB:

I respect MCcain for what he did as a POW but this time
in history It is OBAMA TIME.

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:32 pm 205. freedom first:

Whoever thinks all adults have done some kind of drug is an obamabot idiot!
Normal hard working people do not use illegal substances!!
I fear for our country if you hogwash is 1/2 true. Druggies running the country.
when did USA spell Hell!
and the only reason Clinton had a surplus was he cut important programs like our armed forces and rasied taxes! Obama what contest in hell did he win
McCain 2008!!!

Oct 30, 2008 - 8:58 pm 206. Believer:

Tim H.:

Would you say Frank Marshall Davis was a monster? Have you read about what he writes regarding his own sexual proclivities? I hate to think how he might have abused Obama as a child.

Do you know he was probably the most influential man in Obama’s young life? A father figure. A man with whom he drank as a teenager and may have done drugs with — he certainly was with Davis as he sold drugs to others. As was his grandfather who was a friend of Davis.

Jerome Corsi has been over here in Hawaii to research and report on his years here. What he’s discovered coincides with what I’ve read and heard over the last few years.

Barack Obama is not a healthy man. And this environment in which he grew up explains much of why he’s such a pathological liar. And why he fails to recognize evil. Malignant narcissists don’t make good leaders, to say the least. Power should never be given them.

We’ve already seen how he’s misused it. How he manipulates people and discards them. You’re either an incurious fool or so sick yourself you’d rather be blind to the truth.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:11 pm 207. lee:

If 4 years of Jimmy Carter set the stage for Ronald Raegan, then 4 years of BHO might be a blessing in disguise. It’ll hurt, no doubt about that, but 4 years isn’t that long. All of the fanfare over the election will have dissipated by Christmas.

Still, there’s room for last minute gripes. The guy’s not accomplished a thing in his life, either as a “community” organizer or as a politician. His tax plans are a joke and I have feeling that even a dem majority congress will notautomatically support his nonsensical “tax credit for 95%” proposal.

Having observed Obamaesque figures who booted out American allies in their nations, I can guess that in about a year or two, Obama’s popularity will deflate (unless the economy rebounds completely). The enthusiasm generated the Bush hate won’t stay with Barack forever.

As a minority, I have to say it’s just a shame that the first non white president will be someone like BHO. He’s a “I told you so” wating to happen for a few racists who never wanted a minority candidate to win in the first place.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:27 pm 208. Ex-fetus:

“MSM media is not affecting the outcome. It’s natural to report who is winning and who is losing. McCain is losing.”

Factually inaccurate sir! Don’t they teach Civics in high school anymore, or have you not made it that far yet?
An election is a snapshot NOT a motion picture. It isn’t a ball game where sombody is ahead at half time. It is a one time deal where ONLY the final score counts. It is impossible to be winning or losing by polls.
Plus you have no idea what those polls mean.
An opinion poll is NOT a predictor, it is a statement of odds.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/#data

Look at the top line
Florida (27) that mean the state is Florida and it has 27 EV’s.
Obama 49.5 McCain 46 Those are the odds, which means if there were 100 elections held today, Obama would win 49.5 and McCain would win 46. It says NOTHING about which column November the 4th will be under.
Obama 3.5 toss up. That gives how far ahead Obama is as a percentage of those polled. It is NOT a ‘raw’ number. That means it has been cooked by the pollsters to give what they think is ‘right’. Toss up mean it’s a tie. That is because the Margin of Error (MOE) is greater then the lead.

The next column over is the results from ‘04.
If you want to get a better idea of what is going on try an track down the poll numbers from ‘04 and compare them to the actual results.
The whole polling industry is an easy way to make money for pollsters. All you need is a math degree, or a Poly Sci degree and a phone bank and you can make millions.
That is a good thing, since it keeps pollsters from conning little old widows out of their life savings and away from playgrounds.

Oct 30, 2008 - 9:37 pm 209. Stanley:

All the people should give Obama a chance if he wins the White House things couldn’t get any worse than they are now.he is a very smart man and he will get the Country back to where it should be.He will have a lot of smart people around he to imform him.We all know it has been really bad the last eight years.My son and daughter served in Iraq,they didn’t worry about staying and winning, they just wanted to come home when their time was up. my son was hurt real bad in Iraq. he was in the hospital for six monthsand he is doing ok now and is staying in the Army. I served in Vietnam and lost a brother over there.What I am trying to say if we keep fighting these wars we will keep loosing our young people. My son and daughter said the people that we are fighting for don’t care about the men and women that are dying for them. I will never forget my mother’s face when two soldiers came to the door and told her that her son is dead.My mother is dead now but Iwill take to my grave with me.Icried for a week when my son got hurt. I couldn’t look at his scares.these people has got the American people so scared that we are spending ourselfs to death on security.Hopefully Obama will think twice befoee starting a war with people who have done us no harm and put all that money back in America. God bless America and all of us. we are on earth not long and while we are here lets love one another,Black and White and support who evers win. lets make this a better country for our children and grandchildrenand God bless all of you D OR R. THINKS.

Oct 30, 2008 - 10:10 pm 210. Johnny Marrer:

How have the American people got to where they are today? How, in the 7 lean years since 9/11, has the USA squandered the worldwide outpouring of sympathy and support that that tragedy engendered? How was it that, when America most needed leadership and vision, all it got was Bush and Cheney? What determined that the strike on the Pentagon came just close enough to shake up Rumsfeld, while leaving him to become a potent, if unintentional, missionary for Al Qaida – a precision surgical strike if ever there was one? Why, in 2004, did 62 million Americans vote for Bush and self destruction like Gadarene swine?
Could all this have been coincidence, the working of chance? Those with faith will see evidence of divine intervention (Intelligent Design, if you like) – the hand of God punishing his people or of Allah in support of his fundamentalists. And now what will happen in this election? Will someone lead the American people out of their Republican Babylon, or will they continue to reap the whirlwind from the wind that they have sown?

Oct 31, 2008 - 2:56 am 211. Frogpond:

It is amazing to read these posts. This is an election-not a sports contest. The polls are simply stating the results of a zillion phone calls the majority of which seem to say that they will vote for Obama. That’s it-nothing more nothing less. Not a message from God, not a left or right wing conspiracy, just a whole lot of surveys. Stop worrying one guy will win and one guy will lose. Aside from that, nothing will change.

Oct 31, 2008 - 4:14 am 212. Arnold:

And isn’t it a coincidence that he slipped & referred to “my Muslim religion”…….
What’s in the heart comes out via the tongue!
From Rush Limbaugh’s radio show …..
You are aware, probably, that Barack Obama lost his bearings recently and said that he was going to campaign in all 57 states.You heard this? And most everybody chalked it up to, ‘Well, he’s tired.’You know, this is a Dan Quayle moment. I mean, Dan Quayle goes out there and misspells ‘potato,’ and we still hear jokes about it. Barack Obama says he’s gonna go out and campaign in 57 states! He was just tired, you know, it’s been such a long campaign, he’s been so many places, he probably thinks there are 57 states. Well, I have here a printout from a web site called the International Humanist and Ethical Union. ‘Every year from 1999 to 2005 the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states presented a resolution to the United Nations Commission on human rights called commbating.’

Obama said he’s going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states.
So did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip, ladies and gentlemen?

KEEP IT GOING, FOLKS! Our future is at stake…Make no mistake about it.

Oct 31, 2008 - 8:08 am 213. fred:

Dear realitycheq:
Most of us don’t hate you guys. We just think you’re a bunch of whining pussies. Defend yourselves from a violent criminal with a gun? Naaah. Actually be responsible for your OWN healthcare, your own retirement, your own mortgage, etc., etc.? Why, no, thank you. Lock up the worst murdering terrorist dirtbags on the planet at Club Gitmo? Ooh, better give ‘em habeus corpus. In short, we see you as pathetic losers who are incapable of taking care of yourselves or anybody else. All that you are capable of is looting and mooching from those who actually produce things of real value. And you clowns want to subject the rest of us to your “values”. Well, pardon me if I fight you SOB’s to the bitter end.

Oct 31, 2008 - 8:53 am 214. nlcatter:

yeah the MUSLIM Obama goes to Rev Wright Christian Church – you lying morons are so funny!

and even John McCain said you are liars as well

Oct 31, 2008 - 8:55 am 215. nlcatter:

49-46 are NOT odds!

it is not a probability like a coin toss.

they are the populations that would vote today

you are a moron

Oct 31, 2008 - 8:56 am 216. Larry:

Eleventh, voting machines

Oct 31, 2008 - 9:05 am 217. Believer:

You know, I was tellng my sister the other day that I’ve never known a Christian who would have allowed – for ONE SECOND – other people to in any way refer to him or her as a “messiah.” To in any way allow confusion about who is the source of our salvation.

A true Christian always glorifies Christ, and would set the record straight that it is through Him that any of us does any good thing.

Never have I heard Obama redirect the fawning adoration of his followers. Instead he encourages it. He’s more than a little too comfortable playing the role of savior. The saner among us refer to it being ‘creepy.’

It’s dangerous territory. And if he is elected, I think it will be God saying — “You have chosen this ’savior.’ You listen no more to Me. You have so turned from Me, I wlll give you what you want.”

And we will see the very hell this false god gives us.

If you don’t believe me, just look at Chicago. The murder capitol of America. See any ’salvation’ there? Will we be so blind as to believe that some man – so flawed in character and integrity no less – is one worthy of our trust?

If the prayers of the faithful don’t protect us all from the rebellious. God help us all.

Oct 31, 2008 - 9:26 am 218. Believer:

And by the way, the ‘reverend’ Wright church doesn’t preach anything close to what a Christian Church preaches.

In fact, Wright preaches the antithesis of the Cross of Christ.

But then, he was a member of the Nation of Islam before TUCC. And honors Farrakhan.

Oct 31, 2008 - 9:32 am 219. nick:

1 he does NOT encourage it – thats lie 1 from you pathetic morons

2 he was not mayor of chicago you GDFM

3 again you lie – he was NOT a member of NOI and you provided no PROOF for anything
just rantings of you lunatic mind

even mccain told his supporters the truth!

Oct 31, 2008 - 10:13 am 220. Politics First:

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:
Columbia University – B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in
International Relations.
Harvard – Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware – B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law – Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs.

John McCain:
United States Naval Academy – Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:

Hawaii Pacific University – 1 semester
North Idaho College – 2 semesters – general study
University of Idaho – 2 semesters – journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College – 1 semester
University of Idaho – 3 semesters – B.A. in Journalism

Education isn’t everything, but this is about the two highest offices
in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.

No doubt the Republicans would be saying NOTHING about this discrepancy if the educational backgrounds were reversed. Just like they would be praising Obama and his family for standing behind their daughter if she were pregnant. Obama doesnt have experience but at least he was elected by his party (I’m not sure what that’s worth since we have also elected Clinton and Bush); Palin was chosen by John McCain, whose motto is Country First – seems he forgot that motto when he chose her (right after meeting her for the first time, of course). Obama is no savior. Whoever is elected will be screwed for a long time and so will we.

Oct 31, 2008 - 10:22 am 221. JL:

January, you are so misguided and prone to stray from the point I was trying to make with your side-stepping rant about Liddy. Could it be perhaps you didn’t have a strong enough argument to prove me wrong? The income DOES flow through the rest of us, and your little 10% assessment was obviously taken from some Obama speech which continuously victimize the rest of us as poor, unfortunate waifs who have nothing…utter BS. THAT is where Marxism parallels Obama’s policy. It’s not new, it’s a classic, outdated attempt to engage in class-warfare, and it’s been tried many times over throughout the world, only to fail. The fact is, there are approximately 66% of us (as shown by the IRS Statistics of Income) who share the wealth through our hard work, ideas, and personal responsibility, and pay taxes. 66% of us who the income flows through because that top 10% gives us a way to work and earn a living for ourselves. 66% of us who refuse to sit around and wait for some smooth-talking ‘messiah’ to provide our ‘wealth’ for us. That 66% covers custodians and CEOs alike, and therefore, all levels of society. The other 33% are either truly unable to provide for themselves, for which the government does indeed provide a safety net, or are simply held back by their laziness or entitlement mentality. Why is it so hard for socialist liberals like you to understand that the rich provide the rest of us our jobs and our income as long as we are willing to work for it?? If what you said were true, then I, being very well below that ‘evil’ 10%, could not own a house and 3 vehicles, and you wouldn’t own a computer that allows you to spew your pea-brained, twisted misinterpretations of capitalism on this post. I will give you credit though, I did cut and paste the definition, I do not have the full definition memorized word for word. I did that for your benefit. Obviously though, you still didn’t read it or you simply refuse to understand it. For someone with such a Marxist philosophy yourself, you sure are afraid to claim it.

Oct 31, 2008 - 10:26 am 222. January:

This is the biggest problem with neocons, they lie and say things without any factual basis. Believer, Chicago is NOT the murder capitol of the United States. Washington D.C. is with a murder rate over seven times that of Chicago. Chicago is not even in the top 25 most dangerous cities nor is Illinois in the top 25 states with the highest murder rate. The bastions of the regligious right can claim those places. Louisiana has the 2nd highest murder rate followed by Maryland, then Alabama, then New Mexico and South Carolina. The most dangerous city is Detroit then St. Louis followed by Flint. Alabama, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, Kansas, Florida, Indiana and Ohio all boast cities more dangerous than any in Illinois. When searching for salvation look to yourself first. Thou shall not bear false witness…DO NOT LIE. God does not treat ignorance lightly, you who claim to be a believer should know that.

Oct 31, 2008 - 10:27 am 223. Butch:

Barack Obama at the epicenter of an incestuous stew of American radical leftism. Not only are his connections significant, they practically define who he is. Taken together, they constitute a who’s who of the American radical left, and guiding all is the Cloward-Piven strategy. Obama’s associates are all radicals, firmly bedded in the anti-American, communist, socialist, radical leftist mesh. Obama is associated with black separatist liberation ideologues, domestic terrorists, Palestinian radicals, Kenyan mass murderers of Christians, and both Moist and Marxist communist radicals. Although Obama now tries to distance himself from them, now that he is running for president, they were all his mentors, allies, friends, contributors, associates and supporters. They befriended him… and he befriended and socialized with them back.

The public knows next to nothing about them, and this is quite alarming considering that the Media is not doing the necessary work to expose them. To examine these relationships is not smearing, it speaks to his true intentions and ideological perspectives. Barack Obama, the Cloward-Piven candidate, no matter how he describes himself, has been a radical activist for most of his political career. That activism has been in support of organizations and initiatives that at their heart seek to tear the pillars of this nation asunder in order to replace them with their demented socialist vision. Their influence has spread so far and so wide that despite their blatant culpability in the current financial crisis, Capital Hill politicians now claim to be able to fix the problem with HOPE AND CHANGE.
TED

Oct 31, 2008 - 10:31 am 224. January:

First off JL, I am not a marxist, I am definitely a capitolist. Second I believe I said “wealth” which anyone with it realizes that includes real estate, stocks and bonds minus debt not merely what you claim as income to the IRS. Check out http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html, it can explain what I obviously can’t. Without capitolism I wouldn’t own my own business, couldn’t have bought my ocean front home nor have rental properties supplementing my income. I will fall in the % of people who would have to pay more in taxes under the Obama plan. I liquidate foreclosed properties for banks, if I pay more taxes and in return don’t have to be present for another families forcible removal from their home by the sheriff it is well worth it.

Oct 31, 2008 - 10:55 am 225. edouard:

No doubt McCain has the potential to win but will he?
Can he close the gap?

The fact is some of Hillary’s supporters have gone over to the other side and therefore they can uplift McCain so I am looking towards a Palin / Clinton showdown in 2012 or 2016. Will Hillary’s supporters show their true colours? Time will tell!

The good part is that some Respublicans will vote Obama so the balance is there to pick the best person for America.

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:11 am 226. blackbird:

I’d like to respond to the first comment above.. comment #1 at 143 am by African Moonbat by posting this link below.

This is the beginning of the below link:

“Bad News from the Keystone State

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there is something that I want all of my blue state friends to know before it’s too late, and I’m not sure who else is going to tell you.

I CAN’T SEE HOW OBAMA CAN WIN PENNSYLVANIA.
I know, conventional wisdom says that the Democrats have the state in the bag. But turn off CNN, stop basking in the warmth generated by SNL, the Daily Show and Colbert Report and take five minutes to check this out.”

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/notes_from_a_battleground_stat.html

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:19 am 227. JL:

Then give to charity, January, or better yet, start your own. Hire more people. Go save those homeowners who didn’t pay their mortgages yourself by throwing them some of your untold fortunes. You think just because you’ll be paying higher taxes that the most inefficiently run entity in the country, that is our government, will see fit to spread it out where it needs to go? You think that is your patriotic duty? To hand over your wages to some millionaire politician who’ll in turn give it to whoever they see fit? The way they properly give every dime of our social security back to us when we retire, right? The same way they currently so carefully handle our tax dollars now under a democratic-majority? The way they have basically, after over 200 years in business, eliminated the lower class, right? Of course not, and you (should) know this. Politicians have made the same promises to do those things time and time again, but have yet to follow through. Call me a skeptic, but I don’t see this one being any different. So spare me the links. Practical knowledge and history has proven that the government does not provide wealth to anyone. Just because you like your hard-earned money being stolen from you doesn’t mean we all should have the same mindset.

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:30 am 228. Believer:

Someone’s getting pretty riled up around here.

And he keeps promising, “my work’s done – i’m outta here.” As I told him before, his word is as good as his Dear Leader’s.

He doesn’t have to be Mayor of Chicago to have negatively influenced those who live there. He’s partnered with those who’ve betrayed what trust had been given them.

In EDUCATION. In HOUSING. In HEALTHCARE. In HOPE.

Ask Rosie. She posted here a month or more ago. She knows not to trust him.

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:37 am 229. Believer:

‘yahoo’

chicago murder capitol

first article is the one I read — “it might be the “Second City” but it beats out NYC, etc….”

Incredible what January claims….

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:41 am 230. January:

Wow JL, I can’t tell if you love this country or hate it. I do give to charity, I have hired three additional people in the last six months and have bought one of the triplexes where its renters were being tossed out due to the investor foreclosing, I did this in order to help keep two of the tenants who have lived in that complex, one for 18 years and the other for 23 years, there (and truth be told, it is also a great investment). So yes I believe I do give back, I also believe that it is patriotic to pay taxes, I like the police, paved roads and the many other services the government provides. I never said the government is meant to provide wealth…I said that if paying more in taxes would help keep the current situation from repeating itself, always under a republican government mind you, I will gladly do so. I don’t believe that regulatory agencies that could be funded by my tax dollars would be a bad thing. I don’t believe the government should have an interest in the banks, like now, I don’t believe the government should have in interest in private companies, like it does now under the Bush administration, but I do believe that the government has a responsibility to make sure that those companies are regulated. I believe the government has an important role and taxes fund that role. I believe we need to grow our infrastructure, taxes do that. I believe that green technology needs to be explored and we the United States needs to become the leader in that technology, taxes help support that. Without taxes we wouldn’t be using the internet now as it was a project of the Department of Defense, uh I believe that Department is funded by taxes isn’t it? Government is important and taxes are what allow the government to run. You sound like a libertarian, which is fine many of the people I admire greatly are libertarians however even most libertarians support Obama because even they realize that the current government has only grown larger and larger under the republican administration and there is not any evidence that McCain wouldn’t be more of the same.

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:02 pm 231. Believer:

I will correct what I cannot confirm: that Wright was member of NOI.

But he has close ties to Farrakhan and NOI. He blends their teachings with the faith of Christianity, thereby perverting it. Teaching hate rather than love and forgiveness.

Wright has said Farrakhan’s is one of the most important voices of the 20th and 21at centuries. Honoring him in his church newsletter.

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:02 pm 232. January:

No believer you can’t believe what yahoo posts look at the US census. This is why lies and mis truths continue to get circulated you believe everything you read on the internet. US Census…US Census…US Census. Look to real sources.

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:04 pm 233. James Westlake:

This election was always going to be impossible for the Republicans to win once the economy tanked. Even before the credit crunch George W Bush’s popularity was so low that a Republican victory was always going go be unlikely. The country would simply not have gone for another Christian fundamentalist right winger after Bush junior. The the only chance the GOP had was to select a candidate with as much distance from Dubya as possible this they sensibly did by selecting John McCain a relative moderate with enough distance from the religious right . Their chances where given a further boost when the Democrats selected a black candidate – enough Americans being out and out racists or at least carrying enough prejudice to be vulnerable to scare tactics to tip the balance in a close race. This coupled with Mcains war record and experience gave him a considerable advantage, if this was to be an election where national security was to be the prime issue, over a young and inexperienced candidate

McCain’s problem was that though his distance from the religious right was necessary for him to reach out to independents, wavering Democrats and moderate Republicans he also needed to enthuse the religious wing of the party as these tended to be the people who did the ground work in an an election campaign. His task was to present himself to mainstream America as a relative moderate whilst also enthusing a religious base who where sceptical of him. This was always going to be tricky but when he appointed Palin he appeared to have pulled of a master stroke. She immediately enthused the base whilst also appearing charismatic and personable so also looked like being able to reach out to some wavering democrats who had favoured Hillary over Obama in the primaries.

Then she opened her mouth coming across as, quite frankly, an imbecile, scaring even moderate republicans with the thought that, due to McCain’s age, this women could actually become President The Republican ticket started leaching support as independents, wavering Democrats and moderate republicans recoiled in horror. Possibly fatally McCain had damaged two of his strongest suits: his judgement and his integrity (nobody could honestly believe he selected a woman who belived dinosaurs and people coexisted for any other reason than a cynical play to enthuse the a Christian fundamentalist base). If this had remained a War election and McCain had been more willing to play the race card (without appearing to do so) he may still have had a chance…

But then the economy tanked, the war became less of an issue as the election became primarily about the economy and at a time where America faces the prospect of a long and painful recession after 8 years of Republican rule who would vote for a candidate who admits he doesn’t understand economics ? This coupled with an opposing candidate who has both more money and a larger enthused base, and who has run a near faultless campaign appearing calm and composed whilst McCain has appeared erratic means that Senator John McCain has no chance.

James Westlake

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:12 pm 234. JL:

I in no way hate my country, and you wrongfully assume so. To that assumption, I take offense. That’s the problem with you liberals…someone disagrees with what you think, so they must hate America. You also wrongfully assume that all conservative values are spawned from the Bush administration and support McCain on 100% of his policies, when real conservatives, like me, know that a) Bush has not proven himself to be a real conservative, and b) the government, under the Bush administration and the Democratic majority in congress, especially with the bailout, have overstretched their arms into territory that they should have had no part in. To that I agree, but make no mistake, Barack Obama sided with Bush and McCain in voting YES to corporate welfare. And, you wrongfully assumed that I think no one should pay taxes. I simply stated that since 66% of us DO pay taxes, and the top 5% of wage-earners pay 60% of them, so we’re already doing our part to provide for those necessary government entities and then some. I believe in a government ‘of the people, by the people and for the people,’ as a great American once said. You obviously believe the opposite, that it’s our duty to work for the government and not their duty to work for us. So in that, I will in turn make the assumption that YOU are the one who hates America, and the fundamentals it was founded upon.
And by the way, you actually used the phrase ‘flow of currency’ to define capitalism, and currency, or the amount of it, is what you are using to determine wealth. Real wealth is a state of mind, so if I didn’t answer your response to your liking, it’s because you and I have very different definitions of wealth. I consider myself wealthy, with my middle-class income, sans a house on the shore, or owning my own business. I know that if I want those things, I will have to take measures in my life, and possibly even make drastic changes to my life to obtain those things, but it will be up to me, not BHO or anyone else’s empty promises. But I am just as happy having a house in the suburbs, working for someone else who rakes in more than me, and I personally think that if those 66% of people are willingly doing their part to provide for their own needs, and can happily do so within their means, then that 66% is indeed wealthy. That is more than any other nation in the world can boast. I don’t need some millionaire politician who promises to save the world, much less some pie chart, telling me I’m poor and that America is flawed, because that is so far from the truth. Charts like the ones in your link only make certain people think they are entitled to more because it’s not fair that other people have so much. I’m not buying it…that is not only asinine, but very childish. Under capitalism, we all have the same opportunities to create our own wealth, and to give by our own generosity to those who need it, and the motivation to do so.
On the upshot, you are to be commended for giving to charities and hiring people. In that, you are doing your part. But you do America a great disservice by promoting the mediocrity, corruption and entitlement attitude that ensues when you turn over the power of the people to the government.

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:58 pm 235. Believer:

Regarding Wright’s association with Louis Farrakhan, in this article:

france24.com/en/20080315-pastor-could-be-big-liability-obama-usa-vote-
2008

they quote Wright as saying:

“When Obama’s enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit Colonel Kadahfi with Farrakhan, alot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”

These are not men – Obama included – who should be leading others. They are blind and lead men down a path of destruction.

Oct 31, 2008 - 12:59 pm 236. JL:

And P.S., the Bush administration is not the only Republican administration that has ever occupied the White House. Not so long ago, a President named Ronald Reagan, a Republican, revised the failed socialistic policies of the Carter administration, which left us with double-digit interest, double-digit inflation and double-digit unemployment under a total Democratic-controlled government. Not even the ‘evil’ Bush administration can boast those numbers. Under Obama, who embraces many of the same policies, history is doomed to repeat itself.

Oct 31, 2008 - 1:21 pm 237. Believer:

Regarding gun violence in Chicago — CBS2Chicago reported:

on April 20, 2008 — “32 shot, 2 stabbed, 6 dead — the deadly weekend of violence continues…”

Helicopters were being used to monitor gang violence.

I recall this violence. And Obama’s casual response to it, “Isn’t it a shame — I’d like to talk to the Mayor about it.” Unbelievable.

My point is that the work of Obama, Wright, Pfleger, Ayers and others results in stoking the flames of hate, envy and resentment. Their ways promote violence against one another. They’ve been so successful, one wonders if this is actually their goal.

Obama has had much to say about (voted often) limiting – even denying – a man’s right to carry or own a gun. But he has had nothing to say about the hate and resentment that is promoted in his own church.

For a man so reportedly brilliant, I’m struck by how he cannot connect a pastor’s teaching of hate – and his own partnerships with those who’ve ripped off a community – with the inevitable anger and violence they produce.

Obama proposes to take away the wrong thing: guns.

I’d rather he take away the preachers of hate and envy.

I’d rather he take away the corrupt politicians.

I think he’d then find citizens living more harmoniously with one another. Rather than despair, they might have a glimmer of hope.

But as I said, Chicago sure isn’t the picture of Hope and Change.

Oct 31, 2008 - 1:40 pm 238. January:

JL I in no way meant to disrespect you. I do not hate America, I love America. I don’t believe that certain people are entitled to more, I do believe that it is clear that the policies in place favor a certain % of the country and that those policies need to be fair. That is my point. I do not believe in Robin Hood economics. I believe that since the government is supposed to represent all members of society it’s policies should too. I believe they do not now. It is too easy for those at the upper echelon of society to keep more than those in the middle of society because of these unfair policies. It is a version of corporate welfare, that is what I take issue with. You are undoubtedly right that I have had to give up things that you don’t wish to, I also believe that what makes this country great is that people can make those decisions. Those charts aren’t meant to say one is poor, it is saying when the current policies allow such disparity there is something wrong. You are right the government should work for us, but I also believe we should work for it too because essentially the government is us. It is not an us vs them, or us vs. the government, we are the government that is what makes America so wonderful, and unique. We choose people to represent us because it isn’t practical for 300 million people to sit in Capitol Hill, but we are still the government and right now I don’t believe the government is a fair representation of who America is. I see nothing wrong with living in the suburbs and working for someone else, I admit I envy it sometimes but I don’t think that you who go to work, provide for your family, pay your bills, go to church etc…should pay more in % in taxes then the CEO of Google. That is not fair and that is a problem, that is not socialism nor communision nor marxist. Warren Buffett has said over and over that there is something fundamentally wrong with a tax system that taxes his secretary a higher percentage then the percentage he pays. It isn’t about poor it is about right and fair.

Oct 31, 2008 - 1:45 pm 239. Believer:

There’s a real problem when a man looks to his neighbor and becomes envious.

When he covets what his neighbor has.

It becomes a bigger problem when it’s encouraged by others – especially those in authority.

Far better that we be a people who humbly accept what life brings us – both the good and bad – and treat our neighbor as we would want him to treat us. Far better we set our own goals and work toward achieving them ourselves – not expect – and certainly not demand – someone else’s help.

How much better that we share – and cheer – the joy of any man who achieves great success, not envy him. But hope for him even greater success. And should he choose to share with us from his bounty, then thank him graciously. Not require or demand it of him.

Both the man who has joy in spite of great need and the man who shares generously with those who have less are blessed in ways some will never understand.

Oct 31, 2008 - 2:23 pm 240. Chris:

I don’t usually respond to random articles I read, but this one was so painfully biased I felt I had to.

1. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html

I see no shrinking in the gap.

2. Sure. Although the undecideds could go in favour of Obama and make it a landslide. Do you have any evidence to suggest this 7% will fall to McCain?

3. I can agree I suppose. The same argument was made in the primaries however.

4. That’s an incredibly biased statement you have made. I’ll bet half of Americans disagree with you. Statements like that don’t progress discussion.

5. Comments are made at certain times for political reasons. I don’t remember the other Republican nominees praising McCain all the way to the nomination. Come on, that’s how the game is played.

6. I think this may be your strongest argument. Unfortunately, it strikes me as the most likely reason McCain will not win. The subset of people that buy into what Palin is producing is not enough to win the election. I suspect the subset of people put off by what she is producing when she is “going rogue” is much larger.

7. Sure. But the Republican=Republican pitch still feels strong.

8. Right, the ACORN scandal that EVERYONE keeps talking about but NOONE knows anything about except that it means Obama shouldn’t be elected. That’s the golden ticket?

9. I’m not sure what you have written there is really an argument for anything.

10. I think the polls have shown that attacking your opponent instead of attacking the issues has blown up in McCain’s face. Do you honestly believe more smear attacks will get McCain into office?

Oct 31, 2008 - 3:02 pm 241. JL:

Fairly put, but while I agree with you on most of your points, January, I have to disagree on where the lopsidedness of the current tax policies falls. I think using Warren Buffet is a bad example because while he may indeed pay a low ‘income’ tax rate, he also pays heavily in corporate taxes because he owns a lot of corporate equity, not to mention investment and charitable write-offs that equal a whole sight more than his secretary’s salary. Those figures he fails to mention in his argument for higher income taxes on the rich, and I think it’s probably fair to say that’s true of all extremely well-to-do people like him, and thus creating this lopsidedness that appears to favor the rich when in fact it favors everyone. I personally don’t see a problem with that because what he’s not paying in taxes due to those things, he’s circulating the flow of that currency to those who work for him, and those he’s been generous enough to give back to. So again, he’s still doing his part without the fabricated necessity of higher taxes on the rich. I do see a lot of robin hood economic policies being promised outright by Obama, which is why I do not support him. I am thankful for rich people like you, and Warren Buffet because they provide a means for the rest of us to succeed, and that it helps the entire system when everyone’s taxes remain low, so long as they are properly managed and prioritized by our leaders. I think responsibility across the board, with us, with our employers and the people we do business with is crucial to this, and I believe the same philosophy should be adopted by our government just the same. I don’t believe in welfare to any class except to those who truly cannot provide for themselves. I also don’t believe that, in this economic situation, raising taxes on ANYONE, filthy rich, dirt poor or in between, is a very responsible idea because it provides less room to create jobs, less room for consumers to spend, less room to invest in the markets, less room to donate and more room to make bad economic decisions like the one that was made last month by both parties in government alike. It’s that very irresponsibility, like it or not, are exactly what creates a mindset of separation between us and the government.

Oct 31, 2008 - 3:17 pm 242. Butch:

So Obama’s past and present HIDDEN acquaintances and affiliations don’t fall into play here? Why? Because he will fix the economy and we will all be rich? How naive can people be? Should we all run and vote for him just because he’s black and the first Afro-American to run for President?

Pardon my candor….But Bulls hit!!! Obama is a Wolfe in sheep’s clothing and he has pulled the wool over all you Obama fanatics’.

People say that on November 5th the headlines will read
OBAMA WINS IN HISTORIC LANDSLIDE VICTORY

I pray they are wrong!

But if they do …rest assured that shortly thereafter headlines will read
WHO”S SORRY NOW!

This election reminds me of when Dinkens ran and won for mayor in NYC. Everyone thought he was the “Second Coming of Christ” and guess what? He did absolutely nothing for NYC. It was one of the worst times in NY history.
He only caused problems and stirred up racial tensions. NYC was divided.

WAKE UP!

Oct 31, 2008 - 3:38 pm 243. Suze:

There is a BIG ELEVENTH reason why McCain could still win. PRAYER.
I mean it. People of God who love this country are praying like everything. Just flick through the religious stations….without exception the common theme in the last month has been “the end days” and that the people of God should stand against the anti-christ. Standing in Christian terms means to get up do something…remember the old protestant work ethic. No big hoopla…no big deceptive boasting…no need to…Just get up and vote. …This whole Obama craze has awakened the Bible Belt more effectively than if McCain had actually run a great campaign….and it reminds the Jews of Hitler…. If they don’t come right out and say it, it’s because they are afraid to….but they will say it with their vote. I know about this. The Christians and the Jewish people…They share the same prophetic Old Testament scriptures…., Jeremiah and Isaiah and Daniel….who describe this time in humanity. Check out the Jewish Nation blogs and tune into the Jewish Broadcast on cable….and you will see the tone.
Whatever…it’s just a matter of time and the facts will come out.
Even if Obama gets elected, by his own schemes he and his poor followers will entrap themselves….and pull down everyone who attached themselves to him…and just to save themselves they will put as much energy into denying him as they did worshipping him.
When Obama talks about Christ as though he loves the Lord, I am amazed he continues to breath. And how sickening that he places himself in the same boat as Rev. Martin Luther King. But the madman is deluded no doubt.

Oct 31, 2008 - 4:33 pm 244. Listen up:

The reports of my loss of the election is greatly exaggerated. – J McCain ala Mark Twain

Oct 31, 2008 - 6:33 pm 245. nlcatter:

Obama prayed to win and God decided to grant his

rather thatn a prayer from you racists pigs

how else do you think he beat Hillary?

Oct 31, 2008 - 7:07 pm 246. nlcatter:

wright is an idiot and Obama finally realized it

755 of jews will vote for Obama they know what kind of man he is

Oct 31, 2008 - 7:08 pm 247. nlcatter:

today mccain supporters beat up an asian man and told him to say he lvoed america

thats why Mccain will lose and deserves to lose

Oct 31, 2008 - 7:14 pm 248. Believer:

Also — that would be CBS2Chicago reporting that Chicago is the murder capitol of the U.S.

Sorry, January, that it wasn’t FOX News so you could discredit it.

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:39 pm 249. Believer:

That Khalidi story/video just won’t go away. One has to think it’s pretty bad if the LATimes won’t release it.

debbieschlussel.com

has something to add: she went undercover to a fundraiser and saw the same troupe perform that had performed a year earlier at the Khalidi party. This is what she witnessed:

A number of young boys – some no more than 7yrs. old – gave these three flags to three of the boys – American, Israeli and British. The rest of the troupe then simulated shooting/beheading the three. Afterward, they wrapped red scarves around the three boys’ heads, meaning they were bloodied and beheaded, and took the flags and stomped on them.

It’s a dance troupe, I guess, and there’s no telling if this was how Khalidi and Obama were ‘entertained,’ but if so, it sure would be reason to keep the video under lock and key.

Oct 31, 2008 - 11:57 pm 250. Cris:

Obama’s aunt is a illegal immigrant who received welfare and houseing allowance for 5 years. Why could not Obama shared his wealth with her instead of the selfish tax payers? Why is he so dense and stupid that he always claims I did not know. This dense idiot can not be commander in chief

Nov 1, 2008 - 11:44 am 251. January:

Believer, as I said, check the almanac or a source such as that. Did you even continue to read the article? Here is the paragraph that follows the headline you talk about:

“At the end of 1998, Chicago made international headlines as the U.S. “murder capital” after surpassing New York’s homicide totals for the first time ever. Chicago shed that dubious distinction when murders plummeted over the last decade.”

Why not talk of McCains virtues rather than tear down another man? Negativity and attacks are not very christian like.

Nov 1, 2008 - 11:54 am 252. January:

JL: I realize that we will never agree on tax policy however being able to discuss things on a reasonable level is what is missing from most of these posts. Thank you for not resorting to name calling, if more people were able to discuss their differences than I believe many things would change for the better.
Thanks for the conversation.

Nov 1, 2008 - 12:02 pm 253. michael s:

well people,remember one thing.Since 9/11 the U.S. has not been attacked under George Bush’s watch.I wonder what will happen if BO comes in.

Nov 1, 2008 - 12:31 pm 254. nick:

us citizens DIED on Bushs watch

here and overseas

he didnt stop AQ actions
they spent their wad

now they want a nuke from Bushs friend Pakistan

Nov 1, 2008 - 1:07 pm 255. Believer:

Selective in your reading, aren’t you, January?

“Chicago Beats New York and Los Angeles” is the headline — goes on to say that it may be third in population but second to none in murders:

426 homicides – Chicago – 3million pop.
417 homicides – NYC – 8million pop.
302 homicides – LA – 3.8million pop.

Yes, murders were down after being #1 in 1998, but reading further, they report that now “crime has spun out of control” — it’s up 13%. And they wear that “dubious” distinction again: Murder capitol.

Regarding behaving as a Christian — would you have told St. Paul not to criticize others? He warned Timothy to be “on guard against” Alexander who did him “much harm.”

I began posting here when I read a Jew, Lionel Chetwynd, who called on Obama to remind ‘reverend’ Wright about forgiving one’s enemy. How about that? It was a Jewish man who had to point out to Obama and his ‘pastor’ what the faith they proclaim to practice is all about.

Your candidate has helped pervert the teaching of my faith. Along with his friends, Wright and Pfleger — supposedly “men of the cloth.” They have essentially stolen the very hope of salvation from innocent souls.

If I do nothing else it will be to point out they are enemies of the Church.

And enemies to America and all men who love peace.

Like St. Paul, I will tell Americans to “be on guard” against those who “do much harm.” And I will name their names, as St. Paul did.

You’d love nothing more than to have me remain quiet.

Nov 1, 2008 - 1:08 pm 256. nick:

i dont know what my aunt is doing or my sister

STFU

Nov 1, 2008 - 1:08 pm 257. Believer:

January is taking on the new Team BO tactic of trying to sound reasonable and moderate.

The earlier tactic of “get in their faces” as BO himself advised his followers turned pretty ugly. Now they’re trying a different tack.

I’m sure it’s all from Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals” — the one he dedicated to LUCIFER. The methodology Obama was so good at that he was chosen to teach others.

I’ve noticed, too, that BO’s supporters often change their names – so we’ll think we’re dealing with far more followers than we are. Another deceptive practice.

Lying and cheating is the hallmark of their activities.

Nov 1, 2008 - 1:22 pm 258. nick:

259? what did you say?

———-
VP Cheney endorsed Mccaain today
for standing with Bush 90% of time

Nov 1, 2008 - 1:53 pm 259. Believer:

BO’s followers know he has much to hide.

And they’ve been racing the clock to get citizens to cast their votes before they learn the full truth. They’ve had the biased media helping them generously. It couldn’t have been done without their aid.

I only ask that anyone who’s undecided now, spend the next few days learning all you can about Obama. You are hesitant for a reason. Something inside tells you to be careful. You know something is not right.

There are those among us who have turned away from reasonable thinking. Character and judgment – integrity – matter little to them. They don’t see a pattern in their candidate’s behavior over the years.

The people and influences in his life have been radical. From childhood.

It’s no wonder, then, that Obama is named the most liberal Senator – more so than the avowed Socialist, Bernie Sanders.

Obama has said he will run again in 4 years if he loses. Give him that loss this year. Allow McCain – who we know to be a man of honor and integrity – lead us out of our present troubles.

It won’t be easy because he will have both the House and the Senate led by Pelosi and Reid. But the damage done to our Republic if all three (Obama, Pelosi and Reid) are running things, may take decades to undo.

We are presently in a mortgage meltdown brought to us by Democrats. That’s right. Obama would have you believe it was the Republicans. It started with Carter’s Community Reinvestment Act. “Community organizers” like Obama pressured banks to loan money to those who might not pay it back. What sounded like a good idea – let more own their own homes – was corrupted by some and forced on banks by others.

Lawyer Obama even sued Citibank to force them to go against their policies of sound lending practices. CEOs – friends and advisors to Obama – encouraged careless lending, and gave themselves huge bonuses for reaching high targets for home loans – two walked away with $26million and $90million before things collapsed.

Read at:

americanthinker.com — posted about 9/28, I think

Simpson’s article, “Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis”

He connects the dots and informs what has been going on for decades and what we’re in for with an Obama at the helm.

May God bless America and keep us safe from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Nov 1, 2008 - 2:18 pm 260. eCharchan:

Dear editor,
Both are good man, good personality but American people want to change new face I think Barack Obama will lead over John McCain because day by day he impress American people, that is why I am sure for the victory of Mr. Obama.

He will become American new president for sure

Nov 1, 2008 - 2:26 pm 261. Believer:

eCharchan:

Does a good man lie repeatedly?

Does a good man allow his followers to commit voter registration fraud?

Does a good man say nothing as 13 members of his staff commit voter fraud?

Does a good man say nothing as his supporters become violent against his opponent’s supporters?

Does a good man purposely dismantle the security measures for campaign contributions so he can receive donations that break the law?

Does a good man teach young people unethical – even criminal – behavior by his example?

I don’t think Barack Obama is a good man. I think there are reasons he should be behind bars rather than running for president.

Nov 1, 2008 - 3:04 pm 262. January:

Believer:

I always try to be reasonable and moderate and certainly do not try to judge others. It isn’t your job to judge others…take care of yourself first. I am getting very tired of the “righteous right”. There are over 100 quotes from the bible condemning judging others. It isn’t your right or position to judge others Believer, if you are a true believer than you should know that the only, THE ONLY judge of our actions is GOD and as much as it appears you would like it to be so you are NOT God.

As for the article you are missing the point…and frankly nothing I say will sway you from your position. I certainly hope you never have to experience what it is like to live in poverty, to live afraid, to feel as if there is not hope for a future as many in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, New York etc…feel. Yet out of those cities come some of the greatest minds, largest hearts and most caring of citizens. Your hate is born of ignorance because if you were truly “Gods Messenger” you would use your time to help rather than point fingers, to educate rather than denegrate, to build society rather than tear it down. I am sorry that you see only the bad in others and not the good, I am sorry that when Obama is president you will forever make excuses for any successes and take credit for any failures. I am sorry that this is what your life is…this is the last you will get from me as I actually have to work and my vacation is at an end. I wish you luck though no amount of luck will remove the stain of hate from your heart only you can do that and I imagine you are happy with who you are.

Nov 1, 2008 - 3:37 pm 263. Believer:

I just went upthread to grab a few jewels by “January:”

#166: “…all you racist, sexist, war mongering right wing nuts…”

#180: “…the filth and lies that spew from the neocons, Palin included…”

No judgment there. Perfectly moderate. So reasonable.

“I always try to be reasonable and moderate and certainly do not try to judge others.” So claims January at #264.

*****

January, I am hardly perfect. I am growing weary. And I know the tone of my writing too often leaves much to be desired.

I love my country. I love its founding and the principles upon which it was built. I don’t want it to be changed. Our founding was genius. Obama is not. You and he support a failed system – it’s been proven every time it’s been tried.

Your screaming “MARXISM” in one of the above posts is telling.

******

The Bible also says — even in Jesus’ own words — that we will judge. I have seen my own sin. Yes. I know when I do not love. And though I speak harshly about another man, at the end of the day my heart breaks for him. I learned how he was raised — and it happens to have been but a few blocks from where I type this message. He attended the same school as my own children.

But he is wrong about so many things. He has been damaged in his life – beginning in childhood. He is not a healthy man. If he were my child I would be telling him he cannot do what he has done. I would do what I could to get him in a psychiatrist’s chair instead. Though it’s highly unlikely he’ll ever be healed that way.

But I do pray that he will one day heal. God is able. I just wish he had attended a Christian Church that offers the salvation message. You see, he’s been hanging onto the anger from his childhood. Most of us do. We cannot let it go and so we die daily.

And sadly, this is what Wright teaches at TUCC. He teaches other innocents to hang onto their hate and anger at those they feel have done them wrong. But this is death for the soul. Peace between men is reached when one forgives the other — no matter the debt. Only Christ can give us hearts to do this. I learned that after my own lifetime struggle.

When God in His mercy allows us to see the sin in our own hearts, then we’re able to see the sin in others. And as we see their sin, we separate it from the man. We know he’s blind. If he weren’t, he wouldn’t be doing the sin.

So Barack Obama is blind. And he has no business leading this nation.

Nov 1, 2008 - 4:38 pm 264. JimCap:

I’m a conservative which means I’m a realist. I need someone with the guts to call it straight without any BS. When I go to the doctor, I don’t need him to tell me what I want to hear. Sorry, Jennifer. I need the truth.

A I don’t need to be coddled and I don’t need sugar coating. And I don’t need someone insulting my intelligence, telling me McCain is going to “come back”. This isn’t a 9th inning rally. This isn’t a game. This is real life.

Look at the polls people. We can insist they’re all lying. Well, what about Fox? Are they lying too? McCain is losing in so many Bush states. Does anyone expect him to come back and win them all, right across the board? It’s crazy.

And it’s not just the polls. My friends and family who voted for Bush both times, are now about 50-50 for BHO over McCain. My friends at work now make “Palin Jokes”. People were laughing at me for insisting that McCain would win, even three or four weeks ago.

It feels to me like ‘92, when lots of people I knew were announcing plans to vote for Clinton. I was shocked. It was like “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”. This year, it seems even worse.

It’s time to focus on the future. Let’s get Congress back in 2010. I’ll vote for McCain, of course, but I’m not in fantasy land. If you don’t believe me, look at this. It’s not pretty:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111661/Gallup-Daily-Obama-52-McCain-42-Among-Likely-Voters.aspx

Nov 2, 2008 - 11:20 am 265. Believer:

The polls are completely unreliable – for a number of reasons.

But they have been showing a movement toward McCain – he’s ahead of Obama now in Missouri. “As Missouri goes, so goes the nation.”

There are many “undecideds” — these are breaking for McCain. They’ve had their doubts about Obama and for good reason.

Pray God spares us the nightmare of an Obama presidency. Pray God opens the eyes of our fellow citizens and they do the right thing on Nov. 4.

Nov 2, 2008 - 12:51 pm 266. James Westlake:

all you people that think Obama is a…

Terrorist
Marxist
Islamist

When he becomes President and it it turns out that he is not, in fact, any of these things do you think you might actually vote for him next time?

Westlake

Nov 2, 2008 - 3:53 pm 267. malcolm:

No James Westlake (268), they won’t. Because he’ll still be African American, which is the number one reason why the Republicans don’t like him.

Nov 2, 2008 - 5:15 pm 268. For Once, Some Real Hope (for Republicans) « The Sisyphus Files:

[...] Ten Reasons Why McCain Could Still Win — Despite the media drumbeat reporting on McCain’… by Jennifer Rubin [...]

Nov 2, 2008 - 6:18 pm 269. nlcatter:

he was winning in Missouri a long while ago

the economy stupid

Nov 2, 2008 - 7:20 pm 270. Believer:

Here’s another reason McCain will win:

Obama promising he’ll “bankrupt the coal industry.”

And energy costs will go through the roof. Remember, he thought $5.00/gallon gas was fine with him, it just went up too fast. You’ll see it again with BO leading the way.

That’ll do the economy real good, now won’t it?

And we thought Joe Biden was the gift that keeps on giving.

michellemalkin.com has the video and you can hear it from his own mouth.

Nov 2, 2008 - 8:49 pm 271. James Westlake:

Malcom

“No James Westlake (268), they won’t. Because he’ll still be African American, which is the number one reason why the Republicans don’t like him.”

I think some of them will – it will be harder for them to hold onto their prejudices with a black family in the white house.

westlake

Nov 3, 2008 - 2:07 am 272. Believer:

I’m glad our Jewish friends are waking up to the danger of an Obama presidency.

Over at

gatewaypundit.blogspot.com

is alot of good info/videos, the most recent being Jerry Nadler admitting Obama didn’t leave Wright’s racist church because he lacked “courage.”

Where Nadler was wrong, was that BO didn’t know it was a racist church for several years. But in his book, BO wrote he knew right away it was.

Nadler is confirming BO has neither the character nor the judgment to lead. We’re too great a nation to have a man so deficient as our president.

Nov 3, 2008 - 4:56 am 273. James Westlake:

Believer,

It looks like you really will ‘Believe’ anything.

Westlake

Nov 3, 2008 - 9:50 am 274. nick:

Obama did not Promise to bankrupt Coal

he supports clean coal .

says who?

THE CLEAN COAL INDUSTRY! DUh

why do you make me waste my time debunking your Lies you gdmf moronic GOPers.

Nov 3, 2008 - 12:03 pm 275. Tog:

I think America will get a good leader any way the election goes. I have voted both ways in the past. I usually vote for the one that I think is MOST honest. What I don’t care for here lately is how Obama is changing his story. He and his advisors are downplaying all the major things that he has been promising since day one. The media hasn’t caught on, I guess. The level of income that will not get taxed seems to be changing, the amount of “change” is in plan is getting less, and his plan to deal with the economy seems to now also be getting less and less.

I have to tell you that my alarms are starting. The red flags are starting to pop up. I got the same feelings about Bill Clinton, Bush during the last election and Hillary too. I have to vote on someone who I can believe is telling me the truth.

I am still undecided, however I was leaning hard toward Obama. Not any more. Undecided.

Nov 3, 2008 - 5:50 pm 276. James Westlake:

Sarah Palin Has refused to say who she voted for…

could it be possible that she too has voted for Obama???

westlake

Nov 4, 2008 - 11:06 am 277. Samantha H.:

i think obama should win because he is a a republican witch is good and obama wants to give pregnant woman an option on wheather or not they want to kill thier babys by putting a needle in thier head. THATS UNEXCEPTABLE!!

Nov 4, 2008 - 3:24 pm 278. Molly:

McCain is teh best person for the job. if Obama wins the whole country is just goin to be handed over to the terrorsits. Haven’t you ever heard. Obamas a terrorists best friend. Its true!!

Nov 4, 2008 - 4:16 pm 279. Molly:

Obama is goin to make the rich poorer and the poor richer. im in the middle. he’s going to give all the lazy bums that can’t get off their butts and get a job, the money that we work or butts off everyday for. That is ot right and i HATE OBAMA. Why would you want a president like him…he sucks!!!!! and his middle name is Hussane.. what a wierdo. McCain is much more experienced and he knows how to do the job!!

Nov 4, 2008 - 4:23 pm 280. Molly:

McCain has been fighting for the US since he was 17. HE survived 3 plane crashes in 5 years. He survived a P.O.W. camp. What a hero. anybody thats agoin to vote for Obama is out of there mind:)

Nov 4, 2008 - 4:25 pm 281. Molly:

Somebody needs to tell Obama that it’s called a WHITEHOUSE.and i wouldnt really care if he was black if he was goin to be a good president but he wont. so i do care. He changes his mind wayyyy tooo much to be a good president. and did you see about =his church on TV. all they preached about was hate. wow, you guys really picked a good HATER to be president, and i really hope there is a miracle and we end up gettin a good president<3333

Nov 4, 2008 - 4:33 pm 282. BeJay:

Obama-nation
Disrespects the flag, designed his own.
voted 4 times to deny care to babies who survive abortion.
Belonged to a church that curses America. Never mind that people of this nation died in the Cival War and other wars to give them the right to free speech.
Strongly suggests the Constitution impedes his desire to redistribute the wealth. How will he take the oath to “preserve protect and defend” it?
Friends of Bill Ayers, well known terrorist.
How did the MSM miss all this?
Don’t believe all they ’spin’.
Country First. Vote McCain/Palin.

Nov 4, 2008 - 4:52 pm 283. James Westlake:

Try and lose the hatred and bitterness in your hearts and take pride in an America that has rejected not only racism but the small minded and vile divisiveness of those such as Bush, Palin , Rove etc…

Please take a lead from John McCains gracious concession speech and get behind a new president who has already greatly restored America standing in the world simply by the symbolism he brings to the office.

God Bless Barack Hussein Obama, God bless America!

Westlake

Nov 5, 2008 - 7:20 am 284. Frank:

How’s it going Nostradamus?

Nov 5, 2008 - 12:48 pm 285. January:

HEE HEE HEE…

Nov 6, 2008 - 7:22 am

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