Comments on: The Common Man Narrative: Rousseau, Tito, the Obamas http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:36:57 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Miklos Hollender http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-100362 Miklos Hollender Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:40:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-100362 I took great joy in reading your article. These days - especially in the New World - the term "conservative" is often misunderstood as someone who is a religious fanatic or a jingoistic nationalist. Your views expressed in this article are what I call the original, undistorted, respectable conservative views, to which I wholeheartedly agree. To everybody who liked your article I recommend reading Our Culture, What's Left Of It, from Theodore Dalrymple (available from Amazon). Sadly, there isn't much online for us to read, except for the Social Affairs Unit, City Journal and The Salisbury Review. Any other recommendations? Miklos Hollender UK/Hungary I took great joy in reading your article. These days – especially in the New World – the term “conservative” is often misunderstood as someone who is a religious fanatic or a jingoistic nationalist. Your views expressed in this article are what I call the original, undistorted, respectable conservative views, to which I wholeheartedly agree. To everybody who liked your article I recommend reading Our Culture, What’s Left Of It, from Theodore Dalrymple (available from Amazon). Sadly, there isn’t much online for us to read, except for the Social Affairs Unit, City Journal and The Salisbury Review. Any other recommendations?

Miklos Hollender

UK/Hungary

]]> By: BMoon http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-99034 BMoon Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:23:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-99034 "Since we all have some evil in us, it is part of our existence, wouldn’t that be a call to humanity’s extinction." (Javelin) Obviously, at the Saddleback interview, McCain was not talking about the doctrine of orginal sin or the Judeo-Christian view of the fallen nature of man, rather geopolitical realities. Obama, in classic pseudo-intellectual smuggery, tried to be sly in twisting that doctrinal truth into a political slam on America, invoking the Leftist mantra that America is just as wrong or even more so, than Russia, Iran, N. Korea, or Islamic terrorists. “Since we all have some evil in us, it is part of our existence, wouldn’t that be a call to humanity’s extinction.” (Javelin)

Obviously, at the Saddleback interview, McCain was not talking about the doctrine of orginal sin or the Judeo-Christian view of the fallen nature of man, rather geopolitical realities. Obama, in classic pseudo-intellectual smuggery, tried to be sly in twisting that doctrinal truth into a political slam on America, invoking the Leftist mantra that America is just as wrong or even more so, than Russia, Iran, N. Korea, or Islamic terrorists.

]]> By: BMoon http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-99026 BMoon Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:08:08 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-99026 "That is simply false. The American Revolution was premised on merit. One may have been born a “common man,” but through hard work earned their place in the sun." (Dave Thompson) Yes, we agree on that. I tried to distinguish between two "common man" narratives in our culture- the leftist egalitarian one that descended from Rousseau to the leftists of our times, and the conservative view, primarily based upion Judeo-Christian thinking, or what Allan Bloom called "the pessimistic view." There was common ground and there were divergences. The Founding Fathers also shared a wide range of views from one perspective to the other. “That is simply false. The American Revolution was premised on merit. One may have been born a “common man,” but through hard work earned their place in the sun.” (Dave Thompson)

Yes, we agree on that. I tried to distinguish between two “common man” narratives in our culture- the leftist egalitarian one that descended from Rousseau to the leftists of our times, and the conservative view, primarily based upion Judeo-Christian thinking, or what Allan Bloom called “the pessimistic view.” There was common ground and there were divergences. The Founding Fathers also shared a wide range of views from one perspective to the other.

]]> By: Ed Wallis http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-99019 Ed Wallis Mon, 01 Sep 2008 13:45:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-99019 Extinction?! argumentum ad absurdum, "Javelin" (5:55pm). But I suppose you're more comfortable with the folks from the privileged House of LottaTalk. Extinction?! argumentum ad absurdum, “Javelin” (5:55pm).

But I suppose you’re more comfortable with the folks from the privileged House of LottaTalk.

]]> By: Javelin http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-98846 Javelin Mon, 01 Sep 2008 00:55:52 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-98846 Aristrocats are born that way and in a certain societies their privileges are codified into law. It has been some fault of some Americans to look favorably on aristocrats, like the House of Windsor, out of some story book romantic nostalgia at best. 888, McCain wasn't too much better at Saddleback, "We will confront evil everywhere and defeat it!" what fairy tale nonsense. Since we all have some evil in us, it is part of our existence, wouldn't that be a call to humanity's extinction. Aristrocats are born that way and in a certain societies their privileges are codified into law. It has been some fault of some Americans to look favorably on aristocrats, like the House of Windsor, out of some story book romantic nostalgia at best.
888, McCain wasn’t too much better at Saddleback, “We will confront evil everywhere and defeat it!” what fairy tale nonsense. Since we all have some evil in us, it is part of our existence, wouldn’t that be a call to humanity’s extinction.

]]> By: 888 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-98825 888 Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:42:01 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-98825 Obama is worse than common. He can't even answer a simple question, especially when he knows his response can come back to haunt him later. It's like uh, uh, uh, uh...he didn't come out of Yale or Columbia. His performance at the Saddleback Forum was a humiliating disaster. That's why he's scared to death of town hall meetings and refuses to meet McCain in any. He knows he can't control the questions, and the American, common and not-so-common, people will have too many questions to ask him, which he does not want to answer. In a town hall meeting, we will ask him about what accomplishments he's actually achieved as a State Senator, as a US Senator and as that infamous Community Organizer; why did it take him 20 years to finally denounce his spiritual advisor, the racist and white and Jew-hating Reverend Wright who praised another racist and anti-Jew, Louis Farrakhan; how he intends to pay for all of his billion-dollar promises, like universal health care; why, and how, he could allow his poor relations, especially his half-brother to live in abject poverty and misery (this hypocracy just blows me away because he's supposedly for the poor and disadvantaged). He's just a big phony who used people to get where he's at, but totally forgot where he came from. I think that's the 'common man' that the author was referring to -- those who moved up in the world too quickly and forgot their roots. Until he answers these and other questions, and gets up and helps his relations in Kenya, especially his poverty-stricken brother, I have no respect for him at all. His wife, Michelle, is worried to death that his African relatives will come out of the woodworks and tell the world Obama's dysfunctional past and present. But remember: the truth hurts, but it shall set you free. Look at John Edwards and former NY Governor Spitzer...the truth came out, and the Democratic Party has totally set them free. Obama is worse than common. He can’t even answer a simple question, especially when he knows his response can come back to haunt him later. It’s like uh, uh, uh, uh…he didn’t come out of Yale or Columbia. His performance at the Saddleback Forum was a humiliating disaster. That’s why he’s scared to death of town hall meetings and refuses to meet McCain in any. He knows he can’t control the questions, and the American, common and not-so-common, people will have too many questions to ask him, which he does not want to answer. In a town hall meeting, we will ask him about what accomplishments he’s actually achieved as a State Senator, as a US Senator and as that infamous Community Organizer; why did it take him 20 years to finally denounce his spiritual advisor, the racist and white and Jew-hating Reverend Wright who praised another racist and anti-Jew, Louis Farrakhan; how he intends to pay for all of his billion-dollar promises, like universal health care; why, and how, he could allow his poor relations, especially his half-brother to live in abject poverty and misery (this hypocracy just blows me away because he’s supposedly for the poor and disadvantaged). He’s just a big phony who used people to get where he’s at, but totally forgot where he came from. I think that’s the ‘common man’ that the author was referring to — those who moved up in the world too quickly and forgot their roots. Until he answers these and other questions, and gets up and helps his relations in Kenya, especially his poverty-stricken brother, I have no respect for him at all. His wife, Michelle, is worried to death that his African relatives will come out of the woodworks and tell the world Obama’s dysfunctional past and present. But remember: the truth hurts, but it shall set you free. Look at John Edwards and former NY Governor Spitzer…the truth came out, and the Democratic Party has totally set them free.

]]> By: Judy, NYC http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-98824 Judy, NYC Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:41:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-98824 javelin: yes, the european aristocracy are salesmen and promoters. very good at it, too. they've been selling that ridiculous line of crap for a long time, but americans have never bought it. let's all line up for brain scans and see how this self-annointed perception they are different supports itself. in any case, if i were slapped by a self-styled aristocrat i would immediately run over that person with my jeep wheels, just to show they squish, like anyone else. javelin: yes, the european aristocracy are salesmen and promoters. very good at it, too. they’ve been selling that ridiculous line of crap for a long time, but americans have never bought it. let’s all line up for brain scans and see how this self-annointed perception they are different supports itself. in any case, if i were slapped by a self-styled aristocrat i would immediately run over that person with my jeep wheels, just to show they squish, like anyone else.

]]> By: Javelin http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-98815 Javelin Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:03:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-98815 Ed Wallis I am not a communist, but you are a typical example of an ugly, stupid, abusive little right wing dittohead. You're stupid and uneducated, so save your opinion for your ilk. And since you further disparage me, a patriotic American Jew, by comparing me to a Nazi, that is more proof you are a brainless right wing pig. Go call Rush so you can babble about liberals, you ignorant toad. Ed Wallis
I am not a communist, but you are a typical example of an ugly, stupid, abusive little right wing dittohead. You’re stupid and uneducated, so save your opinion for your ilk.
And since you further disparage me, a patriotic American Jew, by comparing me to a Nazi, that is more proof you are a brainless right wing pig. Go call Rush so you can babble about liberals, you ignorant toad.

]]> By: Leon Ives http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-98814 Leon Ives Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:00:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-98814 I am in awe of such intelligent people such as Mary Grabar and many who comment on her website. I guess what really inspires me is to see such intelligent people who are both smart and have a great deal of common sense. One thing I can not figure out is how so many far-left liberals can be so intelligent and yet so ignorant when it comes to judging political leaders. Well, they really are not leaders, but they occupy high level positions that have a very serious impact on our country and our lives. And, I said intelligent people, but did not say smart and common sense. Anyhow, here is a question I would ask all of you. How can so many intelligent people be deceived by someone like Obama based on mere words and no deeds? Can they truly believe he is capable of managing and leading America - one of the most diverse, powerful and prosperous countries in the world. Is it because the main stream media as helped promote the agenda of those ultra-liberal within the Democratic National Committee? Is it the enormous financial backing of those in the shadows, such as George Sorros? After all, the conservative Christians make up the majority in America. Perhaps that is part of the problem. Has conservative America given up? Are they being lazy by not getting involved, even when it comes to voting? What events lead Obama to be where he is today, the DNC’s nomination for President with millions of supporters? I am in awe of such intelligent people such as Mary Grabar and many who comment on her website. I guess what really inspires me is to see such intelligent people who are both smart and have a great deal of common sense. One thing I can not figure out is how so many far-left liberals can be so intelligent and yet so ignorant when it comes to judging political leaders. Well, they really are not leaders, but they occupy high level positions that have a very serious impact on our country and our lives. And, I said intelligent people, but did not say smart and common sense. Anyhow, here is a question I would ask all of you.

How can so many intelligent people be deceived by someone like Obama based on mere words and no deeds? Can they truly believe he is capable of managing and leading America – one of the most diverse, powerful and prosperous countries in the world. Is it because the main stream media as helped promote the agenda of those ultra-liberal within the Democratic National Committee? Is it the enormous financial backing of those in the shadows, such as George Sorros? After all, the conservative Christians make up the majority in America. Perhaps that is part of the problem. Has conservative America given up? Are they being lazy by not getting involved, even when it comes to voting? What events lead Obama to be where he is today, the DNC’s nomination for President with millions of supporters?

]]> By: TexEd http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-98782 TexEd Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:30:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-common-man-narrative-rousseau-tito-the-obamas/#comment-98782 C'mon, both Biden and Hussein are spending time wondering how, if elected, they can turn their victory into even greater profits. Hussein is a Chicago hack who distributed millions of dollars of Annenberg money to other Chicago hacks. He has crooked Chicago friends and routed federal money to his wife's pay check. Clueless Joe is in bed with lobbyists and makes money as his son sells Biden's influence. How much better could they do in the White House! C’mon, both Biden and Hussein are spending time wondering how, if elected, they can turn their victory into even greater profits. Hussein is a Chicago hack who distributed millions of dollars of Annenberg money to other Chicago hacks. He has crooked Chicago friends and routed federal money to his wife’s pay check. Clueless Joe is in bed with lobbyists and makes money as his son sells Biden’s influence. How much better could they do in the White House!

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