The ID card was deemed a cheap forgery by Germany’s leading forensics lab – but the Israelis withdrew that testimony from the record.

Check you facts – one can see from any photo of the card that the photo has staple holes that are not on the card. Also, the original card had another photo pasted to it. Neither do the signatures match and the title of the issuing officer is wrong. Finally, it does not show the wear that it should have from being folded and carried in a pocket.

The truth is that Germany did conduct trials, but gave many of its offenders such light sentences , such as the one cited above, as to make it seem ridiculous.

One writer alleges that Eisenhower ordered prisoners from Germany to be left in ‘camps’ to die. He cites only one book, which was never accepted as accurate. I find it hard to believe, because most of the Germans who surrendered to the Allies chose to surrender to America, knowing full well the US reputation for leniency. Is there more evidence than one book by a Canadian author to support that claim? And how many are alleged to have died? Why has not Germany ever mentioned the matter? Where are the widows and mothers?

It’s important to have a museum or memorial for the Holocaust because the world looked away at the time. The camps were not bombed, the Vatican was almost silent. The other victims, Polish POWS, Soviet POWS, should also be remembered.

As for Demjanjuk, I think they should get to the facts of what happened. They should retest the I D card that both Israel and the US accepted as legit. Then he’ll probably go to an old age home.

If he’s innocent, then it’s a travesty of justice, and he will have to somehow ‘prove his innocence’. But if he was guilty of being a Sobibor guard, then he will have had a just retribution.

A few people lost their cushy FedGov bureaucratic jobs. Some of the people he accused of being Reds or security risks effectively rebutted him. He mainly made reckless charges that came to nothing. Does anyone think that George Marshall lost any credibility after McCarthy attacked him?

Also, McCarthy did not conduct any “show trials”. He (briefly) conducted investigations as Chairman of the Senate Committee on Government Operations.

If want something resembling American fascism you have to back to the Wilson administration.
Luckily, Wilson had a stoke in Oct 1919 and then
Warren Harding restored civil liberties after his election in 1920.

Although there are no witnesses the man gave the order to kill the people, the prosecutor maintains he is guilty. The “evidence” he has is that there is a picture of the soldier at his comrades funerals (killed by the partisans).

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ihWlE4GG68B8XU_xRlcJ6KNywDEQD98T47EG0

I would hope Germany stop these witch hunts. Millions of German civilians were killed by allied soldiers and none of these allied soldiers has ever been brought to trial..

There is probably no more than a decade (or two at best) wherein data can be gathered from those people alleged to have committed crimes against humanity.

Let them all speak without fear of retribution…then, move on.

Those amongst humanity who hold delusional belief in an omniscient judge can live in the foreknowledge that all perpetrators are eternally damned. If that doesn’t satisfy their insatiable thirst for vengeance then their god is utterly useless.

They did it by throwing it away in a McDonald’s dumpster!

How vile is that!!

http://cybercossack.com/?p=1252

Also “Holocaust Memorials” have been popping up all over the world. Germany completed a huge “holocaust memorial” in Berlin just 3 or 4 years ago and the United States has a huge Holocaust memorial in Washington, D.C (built in 1993) and a big one in Los Angeles too, as well as smaller ones sprinkled throughout the country. Most of these been built relatively recently. Interestingly, before 1991 the Soviet Union which had 25 million people killed in the war (far more people than any other country) did not have separate memorials for Jews. This is understandable, since most of the 25 million killed were Russians that were not Jewish. Everyone that suffered was memorialized – not just Jews. Some American Jews considered this anti-semitic, they wanted separate recognition for Jewish suffering.

The USA which had about 450,000 people die in the war (no civilians) and is on a separate continent than Europe, has some kind of holocaust memorial in almost every state (some states have more than one). But there are no memorials at all to the suffering of Blacks in 300 years of slavery or the genocide committed against the American Indian. Holocaust Studies programs (studying the suffering of the 6 million Jews that died in the war) is now offered in many or most universities in the USA. The almost 50 million Europeans that were not Jewish get no such recognition.

Germany has done more than any country to prosecute war criminals. Its actually more accurate to say Germany is the only country to prosecute its own citizens for war crimes committed during WW II. Not one Russian, Briton or American has been prosecuted for war crimes despite the fact that two million German women were gang raped (and many then murdered along with their family) by the Soviets and British and Americans murdered 125,000 Germans in the city of Dresden in two nights of bombing. This was the first use of napalm, but Dresden is a city so it was the napalm was meant to burn Germans, not forests. While looking at the plan to bomb Dresden, President Roosevelt commented “we may have to castrate the Germans”. Similar bombing attacks were done on many German cities.

“‘Warenst du in ..hausen in neuzsehnhundert vier and zwansich?’ with kind of an aggressive tone and was ushered in immediately. ”

Your father asked whether the German was at ..hausen in 1924. What a joke! Why would the guard take on an agressive tone and be ushered in for the ceremony as you claim by such an obviously stupid question.

You are shooting a lot of BS for American readers consumption who know very little what actually happened in WWII other than what they learn from Hollywood.

American and British officers shortly after WWII turned Russians who had lived for years in Europe over to Stalin under Operation Keelhaul. A considerable number of these Russians were civilians consisting of men, women, and children. Some in fact left Russia before the Soviet Union came into existence. NKVD executioners, a forerunner of the KGB, immediately had them killed when the prisoners were turned over to them in Austria. The lot of the victims at Soviet hands was clear to the officers in charge of the operation beforehand.

When will these guys be prosecuted for war crimes or “were they just following orders”? But then again that defense is valid for the Allies but not the Germans.

During the Normandy invasion June 1944 the Allied troops were ordered to take no prisoners. This order in spite of the Geneva Convetions came right from Eisenhower’s HQ. Eisenhower also ran the notorious Rhine Wiesen Lager for captured German POWs. He had them reclassified as DEFs (disarmed enemy forces) so that they would not fall under the protection of the Geneva Conventions for POWs. By this legal trick he starved to death thousands of prioners at Bad Kreuznach and other camps along the Rhine. The Red Cross was not given access to the camps. Food was not allowed in and civilians were shot at if they attempted to do otherwise.

The whole sordid story is well documented in James Bacque’s book, “Other Losses”.

When is Ike going to be branded a war criminal for this little gambit?

Obama and Wiesel recently visited Buchenwald concentration camp. That was quite a show. There was a lot of coverage about the victims of the Nazis. The NBC announcer even claimed Buchenwald under the Nazis was a death camp. Every historian has long admitted that the camp had no gas chambers. Nevertheless it is still called a death camp. What was conveniently left out by all the media circus was the victims of the Soviets our commrades in Arms who ran the camp after the war.

Buchenwald unknown to most Americans was taken over by the Russians to incarcerate Germans from the Soviet Zone of occupation. Twenty one thousand, mostly civilian, were killled at Buchenwald under Russian administration. They were deliberately murdered through violence, mistreatment, and starvation. The victims included 12 and 14 year olds accused of being Hitler youth. Even the Soviet official in charge of the concentration camps in East Germany, General Merkulov, acknowledged the severe lack of order and cleanliness, particularly at Buchenwald. In 1949 there were still 14,000 prisoners at Buchenwald.

These victims of course cannot be mentioned because they have been reduced to a second class status.