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1. Ed Wallis:

POT: CALLING KETTLE “BLACK.”

Helloooooooooooo, Rooooobeeeeeeeeennnnnn…

Mr. Bigot himself whining and calling others “bigots”…

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!1

…the lights are on, but nobody’s home…
…the elevator doesn’t go to the penthouse…

PJM, is this your way of giving this creepy writer his “swan song” here?

Sure hope so….

Jul 1, 2009 - 1:50 am 2. lee:

Black voters are a lost cause. The liberals have done an effective job programming a lot of preconceived notions about the GOP into their heads. These “offensive” pranks (at least one of them was useful in making a point) don’t help, but they’re not typical of the GOP party. Sadly, Ruben appears to be a victim of liberal propaganda himself. You can’t cherry pick a few sartiricial jabs made at the president’s expense (even at poor taste) and derive a pattern out of it. Let’s not forget the left leaning media and their Hollywood cohorts are kings of crude jokes and bad taste.

I’m all for the GOP courting minority votes, but “let’s make nice” won’t cut it. They should cut right through these petty rhetorics and ask blunt, tough questions. Where’s hard evidence that democrats have actually improved the lives of their minority / immigrant constituents? Here in LA, Antonio Villaraigosa is busy chasing TV personalities, and Fabian Nunez and and Karen Bass are self explanatory to most Californians. Arnold is practically a democrat in his spending ways. That’s why many democrats voted for him.

Jul 1, 2009 - 1:58 am 3. Meryl:

Wow. So by reproducing these slurs and giving them immeasurably greater circulation, we… what?

This is just juvenile.

Jul 1, 2009 - 2:44 am 4. njcommuter:

If Black voters are a lost cause, then so is the GOP. We need to tread lightly around sensitivities, even irrational ones while we try to get some rationality into the debate. Race is a sore that will not go away. It will certainly not go away so long as the Democrats can keep it inflamed. When the Right helps to inflame it, whether out of carelessness or rank stupidity, we are helping them as surely as George Soros’s billions.

Jul 1, 2009 - 2:54 am 5. gcblues:

if the right does not suppress the fascist evangelical wing of the GOP, we will never be a majority again. Indeed we are much like the 80 dems thinking we are beholding to the worst of our side.if you think Mexicans, Islam and free trade are the problem, your not conservative, your not even sane.
the problem is government, pure and simple. we do not need new laws, we need fewer laws, fewer permits, fewer cops on the highway milking the speeder honeypot. etc etc. we need to run on platforms that call for the elimination of entire federal departments. that return financial control of education back to parents. that our foreign policy project reciprocity not ideology. the further reform of welfare which is backsliding into it’s earlier forms. more important we need to stand up and proclaim that is the height of psychological dysfunction to need to tell others how to live in order for you to be happy. return power to the citizens. one by one.that is the message that reaches to all colors. humanity does better free than constrained. there is no end to the good that eliminating many federal bureaucracies can provide. the issue is central control of your life and a command economy, vs a freer market based individual has the responsibility system. you want minority support, and are not even willing to point out how much better off everyone would be with less government. the right has let the no nothings take over. they whine about everyone else but themselves. they want to control what language you use. they want to control what products you can buy and for how much. they want to dial in what culture they think is best by law. they are perversely ethnocentric. that is not conservatism, that is just a totalitarian right wing mirror of the left.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:25 am 6. Conservative1:

Ruben,

Please find it in your heart to stop hating white people. You are a bigot and need help. It must suck to be you. It must suck to be any minority that hates white people.

Love with puppies,

Conservative1

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:28 am 7. DavidN:

Again, very strange. For one thing, while racism isn’t a Republican monopoly, it seems to cut only one way. Can anyone remember the last time a Republican said something anti-Semitic? I’m sure it’s happened at one point…but Jews vote for the Democrat about 80% of the time, and then “them Jews” keep Rev. Wright from talking to his old parishioner. Half of the Democratic party these days uses the word “neo-con” when they clearly mean “Jew” and no one says anything at all in protest, or argument.

As for the battles that the Democrats stood with the Blacks on…they also stood *against* them on most of the same battles. Republicans weren’t even on the ballot in most Southern states during Jim Crow. And of course, this doesn’t even mention the real battles, the ones that happened a century and a half ago, when the Republican party was formed, primarily on an abolitionist platform. Probably too far back for anyone to remember.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:34 am 8. GA Knight:

Replubicrats do have an image problem w/minorities because they won’t kiss their collective behinds…as for the “epithets” and “bigoted remarks” yeah, not the same as those smooth ones rolling off of the tongues of Demicans….get off of your high pile of horse crapola.
Both parties are garbage.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:51 am 9. Tom Perkins:

So Navarette is trying to say Republicans can attract African American votes if all of the Republican are perfect?

That’s so unlikely it is even worth trying for. Not only can one person not be perfect, several tens of millions of them will not be either.

Say Ruben, shouldn’t you present some evidence that five or six out of tens of millions aren’t outliers?

What a fail on your part.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:52 am 10. Lee Dise:

The article opens, “It’s sad to watch.” But I didn’t know what he was talking about, until I read the article, which I agree now was sad to watch.

All Mr. Navarette did was to take a couple of isolated incidents, reason from the particular to the general, and use it to smear conservatives and Republicans.

Sounds like he’s bigoted against conservatives, to me.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:08 am 11. UsaBruce:

So I follow this guys link in example #1 and where do I end up? HuffPo, for Gods sake! To an article HE did in Huffpo? If I wanted to hear anti-conservative put downs, why, I’d be subscribed to HuffPo instead of PJTV. If you guys are that hard up for writers, I know some really intelligent Conservative bloggers that I can refer to you. As Lee stated above, using a few examples of stupidity to paint the whole Party is grossly untrue, and is typical Leftist hate propaganda. Send this fool back to HuffPo where the real bigots live.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:14 am 12. Steve:

“It’s a matter of public record that the first slings of racism aimed at Barack Obama came from fellow Democrats”

How about the Obama’s racism? Him and his wife have spent their lives hating white people. They worship a black god that demonizes white people. I guess I’m just a “typical white person” for mentioning this truth.

All the color blind solutions you suggest are already part of the Republican platform. Are you suggesting that blacks are too stupid to notice?

Lynn Swann(R), a black man, ran for Pa. govenor on this platform, went to all the black neighborhoods and got his doors blown off by “Fast Eddy” Rendell a white Democrat.

Swann didn’t have the let’s get even with “whitey” as part of his platform.

Obama once said in Chicago that all blacks need to do is vote as a block and they will be able to peel off enough votes from other races to stay in power.

What a great guy! NOT.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:21 am 13. Tom Perkins:

is even /= is not even
I hate dropping words. TDP, ml, msl, & pfpp

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:26 am 14. sodacrackers:

You failed to mention the President’s more subtle and far more dangerous bigotry toward “typical white people” and those of us who cling to our Bibles.
The Republican party will never come back until they stop pandering like the Democrats and stand up for much smaller government, less government interference in the lives of the citizens, and how about we follow our constitution!

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:26 am 15. Gary Ogletree:

Ruben, you are the bigot. Stuck on stupid with your obsession with identity politics.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:33 am 16. sodacrackers:

gcblues:
if the right does not suppress the fascist evangelical wing of the GOP, we will never be a majority again.

I am not understanding what you mean by that, but the rest of what you had to say was perfect! I so agree.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:33 am 17. "progressive"watch:

Navarrette,Jr. object is to damn while pretending to praise. He starts with a lie,that “clumsy,racist epithets” are coming from GOP members and continues that many of them are “thick=headed,insensitive,and mean-spirited racists.” Another lie. Who wrote this Ted Kennedy? Barney Frank? Nancy Pelosi? His attitude and statements are the same ones the Democrat Leftists have always used to keep blacks in line.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:37 am 18. Kat in Indiana:

Undeniable Rule #1-Every Party, every ethnic group, every country, every state, every town, every family for Pete’s sake! has at least one mush-brained idiot that tries to elevate their own inferiority by denigrating someone else.

Most adults know the best way to deal with these people is to ignore them and not give them the attention their immature egos crave.

And why I never read Mr. Navarette’s columns in the local paper…..

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:40 am 19. Anonymous:

“But Democrats get a pass for their sins because African Americans can cite one battle after another when Democrats stood with them…”

That was good for a morning laugh. Gettysburg, Shiloh, Antietam… which side were the Democrats on for those?

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:46 am 20. cedarhill:

This great. Always wanted to be a racist. Finally! Now I can hate secure in the knowledge that my first and last thoughts of the day are how to degrade blackie while I repeat all the racial jokes and stories of the last 20,000 years. Oh, and it’s ok for “them” to call “us” whatever they wish. After all, somebody someone knew was a slave or something a hundred or so years ago. What we really need is a Black Passover Day so we whites can really get into it. Maybe hosted by Rev. Wright so we whites can be appropriately lectured.
God that I were born a Muslim so I can just kill ALL Americans without a single racist thought!

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:48 am 21. Telly:

As if no one could gather a list of four idiot, racial, and sexist comments from three or four low life democrats. Perez Hilton anyone???

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:51 am 22. sheesh:

Here’s an interesting fact. The Heritage Foundation, bastion of right wing think tankiness, has a website. On that website they have a list of their “policy experts.” I counted 79 of them, of which 17 were women, which is about 21 percent. I think I saw one Hispanic surname. You know how many blacks were listed as policy experts? Zero. Not a single black face in the mix anywhere. They even list the experts by area of specialty. Who, you might ask, are the experts on Africa? Two middle-age-age white guys.

This is the conservatives’ problem with minorities – you don’t understand the simple fact that it’s not about what you say or claim, it’s about what you do and what you show the world. You all remember the last Republican National Convention, that sea of middle-aged white faces. That speaks a lot louder than “Bush nominated the first black Secretary of State.” It’s too easy to pass off Powell as window dressing, but when you see the feed from the RNC floor in Minneapolis, or the list of policy experts at heritage.org, that’s the hard core, down and dirty truth of the Republican Party. You may as well quit pretending otherwise and move on to the machine gunners of America.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:54 am 23. Mongoose:

An operative of the Party of Slavery, the Confederacy, Jim Crow, and the bigotry of low expectations calls the GOP Bigots?

What malarkey.

Listen Buster, the Civil Rights Racket of the Democrat Party is just another way to keep minorities down. The Welfare state, the redistribution animus of socialism, enslaves all, but it has already enslaved minorities in this nation. That is what the Democrats and the Left are about: Stasis, serfdom and immiseration for all but as self-appointed aristocratic and totalitarian elite. And do not forget this, when they have destroyed the white middle class in this country, they will then turn on the “minorities”. Do not be so foolish as to imagine that they are anything more than a means to an end. Go have a look at the inner cities in the Blue states if you are confused about this. This was not cause by “White bigotry”, it was caused by effete, socialist elitists of the Democrat Party. This is the true “white oppression”. And they mean to bring it to us all, all across this land.

Here is the point: Rejection of Socialist concepts of victims, “group rights” and collectivism and a focus on the individual’s rights and duties as opposed to the power of the State is not bigotry, and you full well know this. It is an upholding of freedom, liberty, the rule of law as embodied in our founding documents and limitation on government–fundamental American principles and ones that the Left and the Democrat party hate, detest and desire to overturn. If you do not think this is true, have a look at Obama’s responses to events in Honduras and Iran.

What you are really up to here is an attempt to degrade and eliminate the core values of the American Tradition by a bogus association with racial bigotry.

It is dishonest. It is immoral. It is so Democrat of you.

The GOP was was started as an abolitionist party! The Civil Rights Act was got through congress by the GOP vote. GWB not only appointed the first Black Sec. of State, he appointed the second Black Sec. of State, and this fine woman, BTW, was publicly hounded, harassed, insulted and slandered by the Left and the Democrats in the most racist manner possible using the vilest of racial stereotypes!. The Dixiecrats (read Southern Democrats) were the ones that obstructed the Civil Rights Act, including Al Gore’s father! It was the GOP that reached across the aisle and got it through. Most black people in this country vote GOP before the Democrats decided, in a wholly cynical move, to buy them out!. And this cynicism has proved disastrous for the “AFRO-AMERICAN” community, and that community’s moral turpitude here pushes some of the blame squarely on their own shoulders.

And it is not true that the South “votes GOP”, the State governments have been largely Democrat since reconstruction through to this day, particularly in the deep south. The South votes GOP in national elections, mostly because they cannot stand the snotty New England blue bloods, traitors and socialists that the Democrats keep foisting on us. This idea of the “Solid South” is just a misstatement of fact. In fact, prior to the McGovern/New Left take over of the Democrat Party, the white population voted Democrat in the majority of cases.

Go up to the country clubs, private urban clubs and the “Sierra Clubs” of Liberal trust-fund-brats and blue bloods of New England and other such Blue areas, and count the number of black people there. No, “racial harmony” is something the “lower orders” need to deal with, not these princes and princesses. These folks are the racists. These people are little tyrants.

And as much as they dislike minorities, they really hate those crude, white, middle classes bumpkins that have the arrogance to try to better themselves.

But more to the point, what are you going to do when the white people start playing the race consciousness game? What then? This is where bigotry such as yours leads to.

This will be one of the lasting legacies of Obama and the Boomer “hippies”: They will have set race relations back a century with their hideous Political Correctness, vile bigotry and “racialist triumphalism”.

It will not last even 3 years. People will soon have a bellyful of claptrap such as yours.
What then?

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:59 am 24. Mongoose:

nj commuter: what nonsense. You imagine that 10 to 12% of the population is that drucial to the GOP, particularly when they hae allowed themselve top become clients of the state.

Let us stick to principles here. The rest will follow. These sort of demogaphic marketing tactics are part the problem is for the GOP. Stad up for what s right and stop sugar-coating it with “liberal-speak”.

The tactics of “Group rights” conferred on manufactured victims is the stuff of Collectivist attacks on our civilization. If the GOP is dependent on such immoral nonsense then it deserves to go down. The very concept must be defeated. Moreover, it will never win at this game, and will lose those people in the party that make up its best sections: It will loses what is left of its heart and soul.

You listen to too much MSM “advice”, they are enemies of all that is good. What is next? We have to cozy up to government employee labor” unions?

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:09 am 25. Mongoose:

gcblues: If the right does not suppress the fascist evangelical wing of the GOP, we will never be a majority again. Indeed we are much like the 80 dems thinking we are beholding to the worst of our side.if you think Mexicans, Islam and free trade are the problem, your not conservative, your not even sane.

What absolute nonsense! What lying and indecent slander! I imagine that you are a moby of sorts, but if you are you should be ashamed of yourself. You own good people of faith a deep ans serious apology

This is just leftit agit prop. Please shoe me an example fo “evnagelical facism”?

There is none. They believe in limited government, and moreover have a sounder moral a philosophic basis for it than any secular humanists, a tribe that you apparantly belong to. That they wish to obstruct the moral corruption and decay that has been foisted on us by the left by objecting to this immorality being encoded into law speak nothing but well of them.

The fact that you think otherwise shows just how deeply you have drunk of the decadent Leftist moral swill.

Far from being one of the GOP “worse element” they are one of the finest parts of it. The abandonment of the moral bedrock of Christianity is at the root of our problems. The Political crisis is just a reflect of a deeper spiritual crisis.

Shame on you. You owe the Christians here on this site a honest and sincere apology.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:21 am 26. Bilgeman:

Mr. Navarette;

Do you have any other subject that you write about?

Here’s one…why don’t the Democrats try reaching out to White heterosexual Christian gun owners?

Or did the possibility that the Party of Pander should pander some more even enter your mind?

Really, chum, you’re making of yourself a “Johnny One-Note”.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:22 am 27. RE:

Mr. Navarette’s myopia and bigotry is so old and tired.

He and his identity group politics are really becoming a discredit to PJM.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:30 am 28. Eljefe:

Mr navarettee is right. I remember that bulwark of republicanism, Senator Byrd use the N-word on the floor of the senate. Also, don’t forget Senator Bilbo and Strom Thurmand. Yeah, These republican are sure nasty.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:35 am 29. e:

I agree with the article. It only takes a few racist remarks to reinforce the racist Repub stereotype. And there are racists present in the leadership of both parties, it just the Democrats are good enough at demagoguery to avoid much negative impact.

Of course, the question is how do you keep stupid people from being stupid? That’s not a small task. The best answer I can think of is to raise your own standards and the expectations you hold for those around you.

If your friend makes an offensive joke, and you can’t help but chuckle; don’t beat up on yourself, just don’t repeat it. Hey an Irishman or a Pollack will laugh at a good Irish and Polish joke sometimes.

Two word summation: Be Classy.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:43 am 30. Ozzie:

I read the comments sections of Ruben’s posts, but not the posts themselves. Anything worth reading in a Ruben N. article is in the comments, anyways. That’s where all the corrections and facts are.

He’s as bad as Rosenbaum when it comes to throwing bombs to get attention, and then running away.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:43 am 31. Adam:

The point is valid but there are always a few goofballs in every party that do stupis things. The issue is the media tries and play it like the whole Republican party is like this when it is a few outliers. Does the issue call attention to racism on the other side and try to paint the Dem party as racist because fo goofballs like Jermiah Wrigtht and Sotomayor? No but there racist to the nth degree.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:49 am 32. gcblues:

SODAC,
ty,nice to not be flamed per usual

if you agree with the rest i am not sure how the first line is not understandable. it is the not so subtle difference Hayek describes as the difference between a law and order view, and a rule of law view. the latter is about individual liberty, the former is about making the trains run on time. many GOP’ers are not conservative in an Edmond Burke sense. they are more similar to a fascist european right wing that wishes to use law as a club to pound their view of life into society as opposed to simply protecting individual rights and liberty. if you wish to use the law to force a particular cultural or religious view, you are not American conservative, you are more euro fascist right wing.
me, i prefer late trains and my personal liberty and responsibility. that requires that i leave others alone even if i do not like them. it also means that you view a society with as many rules, laws and regulations as we have as not sane. cuz it ain’t! hope that helps. thnx again.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:50 am 33. TMLutas:

NYC’s mayor ran as a Republican because the party machinery was there and the competition was too tough for the Democrat nomination. The GOP could turn over their non-winning, non-competitive inner city parties to black conservatives to produce a crop of candidates with urban council and mayoral experience that wins for the GOP. Lord knows the corrupt political city machines could stand some competition.

Will conservative blacks step up to the plate and make the local GOP their party? They can do that any day they please. They have the numbers. They have the bloomberg model to show that the GOP doesn’t mind a local changeover on that model. For that matter, you can repeat the same observation with latinos (but not jews because they can’t muster enough troops outside of Scarsdale to execute the maneuver).

So who is at fault that they don’t? You can’t hand political power on a silver platter in a healthy democratic republic. Our system doesn’t work that way and it shouldn’t work that way.

There’s something wrong at the heart of black and latino communities who would rather stay under the thumb of corrupt urban elites that carry the (D) after their name in the newspapers than take the GOP and provide true competition and a better local government for their community. Cities can have two party government but not without heavy adherence to the GOP by blacks and latinos where they hold local majorities.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:02 am 34. Darius Thomson:

Welcome to the 21st century.

If we’re going to be a party that isn’t known for 19th century bigotry and racism, than we need to shun those among us who have a hard time wondering why watermelon and fried chicken jokes are in the poorest of poor taste.

Just because Ruben points this out, it doesn’t mean that he hates white people.

I type this in an effort to try to communicate this to those here who are intelligent enough to recognize that someones race is irrelevant when building a big tent for the future of the Republican party. The tent is big enough for everyone who wants to help elect Republican candidates. If you think that racist jokes are OK, and you still want to elect Republican candidates, than at least do us all the kind courtesy of shutting the hell up, and keeping your demented jokes to yourself.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:04 am 35. Morton Doodslag:

To support his despicable slanders, Navarette must go to an obscure state senate candidate, a “reblican activist”, an obscure mayor, and an unheard of “republican women’s group” to dredge up examples of republicans making racist “jackasses” of themselves viz. blacks and Obama.

This column is raw anti-Republican filth. It is pure naked Leftist propaganda.

Navarette is a disgusting hack, a veritable sewer of nasty racist nonsense and leftist multi-culti fascim apologetics.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:13 am 36. RES:

Right! The GOP never did squat to fight racism or help Blacks in this country. Other than the Civil War, emancipation of slaves, a couple of constitutional amendments extending civil rights protection to the states (and look what a mess liberal jurists have made with that), fighting Jim Crow, supporting Civil Rights legislation through the 60s (after which it stopped being about civil rights and became a divisioin of soils) and promoting the peculiar idea that people ought be judged by who they are rather than by what color they are.

Admittedly there are some bigots in the GOP. Ain’t none in the Democrats, right? It isn’t as if they had elected an ex-Klansman president pro-tem of the Senate or anything.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:13 am 37. Spider79:

Ruben N.

Your article is ridiculous.

Minorities will continue to vote democrat until they realize the price of their teat on the government sow comes at the cost of all their freedom. By that time the sow will be dry and freedom will be gone for all.

…..If only those obscure pols who happen to have an R after their name had not told those jokes.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:17 am 38. jkstewart2:

what a nut…. a stupid article by a stupid man… What conservatives need to do is trumpet their arguments of freedom, low taxation and low government… Playing the diversity game is destructive to the Republic and to the party. The identity of the GOP needs to be about freedom. Let the nanny state politicians take up the mantle of race whiners.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:17 am 39. David W. Lincoln:

As long as the ghetto is maintained, those who live
in it feel safe. Well, for those of us who refuse
to live in the ghetto, those inside the ghetto are people who have electricity in their home, but do not flick a light switch for light to be in the room. Instead they go looking for a kerosene lamp.

Blacks are in the ghetto, and frankly if they want
to keep on blaming others for their poor quality of life, then they will stay in the ghetto.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:20 am 40. aloysiusmiller:

Navarette are you even a Republican?

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:21 am 41. Tina Trent:

Wow, way to repeat inaccuracies and lies about Clinton supporters.

Using prejudice as cudgel to claim to oppose prejudice. Typical of a certain mindset, I’d say.

Implication intended.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:27 am 42. Dave:

I can’t help noting to myself– I never heard of any of these people he cites, or of the things they did… and I am a VORACIOUS consumer of news..

They were also small potatoes, all of them. I do not believe this sort of thing is fully contained within the Republican party, as there are plenty of Dems who have the same racist attitudes and casual carelessness in that area. If Roob had dug more and had a more open mind he’d have found them too.

This is overstated and misleading. People are stupid. Racism in these small ‘clumsies’ happens everywhere, among everyone, of every race and culture. Can you say “Hymietown”?

I think the smallness of his ‘examples’ is a self-refuting sort of presentation. He cannot find the BIGGIES, because they’re not happening. NOt like fifty years ago in the Dem party, where everyone from LBJ on down was casually using the N word. These are not the days of Byrd, Hollings, Howard Smith, and 40% of congressional Dems opposing the CRA.

That’s right, 40% of Dems in the Senate and House voted against it, while less than 20% of Repubs did.

That kind of overt, vigorous racism is OVER, and has been for DECADES. Casual humor that is cruel does not, IMHO, prove lurking racism, only foolishness. And that goes for both parties and all cultures.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:28 am 43. BettyBlue:

How, um. . . cute; Navarette once again attacks those eeeeeevil, conservative white people for being bigots against black. Yet, strangely enough, he has nothing to say about the ethnic cleansing of blacks in L.A., not by the Republican party, but by Hispanic gangs. Now why is that, Ruben? Double-standards? I guess it’s not racist when “La Raza”, “The Race”, those noble Mexican gangsters do it.

It’s time for PJM to drop this guy.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:28 am 44. BettyBlue:

Here’s the guys you really ought to lecture about their bigotry, Ruben; not that you ever will: http://www.infowars.com/articles/immigration/mexican_gangs_ethnic_cleansing_blacks_in_la.htm

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:30 am 45. Oldguy:

I grew up and lived in the south side of Chicago from 1938 to 1980. Chased out of one neighborhood after another, I recognized the face of these priviledged white liberals who called me racist but were the first to flee.

From 47th street to South Shore to the East Side it was always the same, Flee then condemn the whites that remained.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:43 am 46. jackw:

of course, Democrats always “get a pass on their sins” in your world, Ruben. Typical liberal, starts off his blog telling us that we’re jackasses, thickheaded, insensitive, and mean-spirited racists without explaining why, then he lists occurrences of Republicans being racist, as if he had a relevant point to prove; that all Republicans are racist. Then he goes on to say Democrats are racist too (the white ones behind Hillary) but they “get a pass on their sins” because they fight for black people. You’re such a genius Ruben, you listed 4 occurrences of racism in Republicans, that must mean im a racist huh? Well, you’ve just changed my life with you’re thoughtful article. You’re just trying to help black people right? By calling all Republicans racist, of course! How did we not realize that we’re all racist before!?!? Teach us, Ruben! Teach us how to be clean and golden! Teach us your ways so we can be free from our prison of ignorance which you have elevated yourself so high above. its a good thing you’re a latino cuz you’re sooooooo humble about everything. I’ve found that the first person to play the race card is the real racist, that’s you Ruben…

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:46 am 47. Old Soldier:

sheesh is funny. Only a Democrat would sit around counting people by race and gender so he can call other people racist.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:55 am 48. Octogalore:

I agree that there are economic and quality of education cases that aren’t being made by Republicans. Most of the comments above are unnecessarily defensive. Do we want to win elections, or not? Whether or not the issue Navarrette notes is just a perception strung together by anecdotes, perceptions gear votes. That perception is out there, and the cases Navarrette outlines for how conservative policies are good for blacks aren’t. I would have loved to see McCain take that on — and if he had, he could possibly have swung that additional 4% he needed.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:56 am 49. sheesh:

Consider this a gift:

When it comes to racism, you folks are your own worst enemy. Don’t rail against liberals or minorities who say you’re racist. That gets you nowhere. You have to stop your own from sending out postcards that show a watermelon patch on the White House lawn, or e-mails that show all the presidents images, with Obama depicted as a pair of white googly eyes in a black background. Those are just two examples, each coming from the office of an elected Republican. As long as that stuff is going on, you’re dead to minorities. End of story.

And stay away from chimps. That’s a loser all around for conservatives.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:56 am 50. Class Clown:

Sorry folks, I’m going to have to break ranks with the Republicans on this one. Whether or not you like Mr. Navarette, he’s got a valid point. I have spent years teaching high school history and government to Hispanic and Black students. When you break things down issue by issue, they tend to be social conservatives and libertarians (and fiscal conservatives to boot, once I teach them about Social Security withholding and income taxes).

They most certainly do not all have the “welfare mentality”, as some of you say, although too many do.

In any case, the fact is that the Republicans are completely ham-handed about how they project themselves to minorities. And I have known some terribly bigoted Republicans.

To correct one previous comment from above, however… Senator Byrd is a Democrat. The fact that a former KKK luminary can find a home in the Party without being called out by the press is a crime.

I’d elaborate more, but it is time for bed.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:57 am 51. Craig:

Aw Ruben. Can’t we all just get along? Evidently, you missed the memo about the U.S. having a two-party system. Conservatives have the GOP or hmmmm….let’s see..there’s the GOP…and there’s…uh…why..it’s the GOP to choose.

We don’t have choices. So both sides are stuck with a BROAD BRUSH stroke of people. Get use to it Ruben.

All the loons and moonbats that are registered Democrats? I’m sure the Blue Dogs are none to happy about them.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:59 am 52. Fred Beloit:

Do the name Janeane Garofalo and the hate-filled and arrogant insult “rednecks” strike a familiar note, Ruben?

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:01 am 53. Stephen:

Mr. Navarrette,

The flaw in the reasoning of your headline is simple: Democrats for the last 3-4 decades have been purveyors, without peer, of racialism, identity politics, and yes, bigotry. This hasn’t hurt their electoral prospects one bit; policy has. Citing examples, as you have, only invites the citation of an equal and greater number of examples from the Democrat ranks, associated and allied interest groups.

You are either trying to tar all Republicans with the cases you cite, or you are advocating for a standard that is impossible to meet. In fact, I don’t think you are doing either – hopefully, your are smarter than this. Rather, I suspect, your inherent accusation is a crude attempt to evangelize for your preferred policy positions on such things as immigration about which you have written much: support my positions and you won’t be seen as a bigot among certain voters. Frankly, your column is fundamentally dishonest.

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:04 am 54. sheesh:

July 1 . . . just three days left until Tea Party Part Deux sweeps the nation and captures the imagination of millions of patriotic Americans. Only this time, we’re going stealth, keeping things on the down low (that means “on the QT” for you generationally challenged white folks).

Yeah, we’re not going to make as much noise this time, and that’s intentional. Honest. You’ll see. We don’t need Newt and friends to fund us or Fox News to promote us. And it will be bigger and more successful and red-white-and-blueier than ever. Then what’ll the libs have to say?

I’m so inspired I just got a tattoo of Sarah Palin on my . . . never mind.

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:30 am 55. Meryl:

14. sodacrackers:
“You failed to mention the President’s more subtle and far more dangerous bigotry toward “typical white people” and those of us who cling to our Bibles.
“The Republican party will never come back until they stop pandering like the Democrats and stand up for much smaller government, less government interference in the lives of the citizen…”

Now 5.GCblues has an interesting indirect take on the comments 14 makes (and I completely agree with 14)…

sodacrackers, you and I are in agreement about smaller government, etc. as you explain, but GCblues calls us “fascist evangelicals”. So I can only conclude that some kind of religious test is supposed to be applied so that genuine conservatives who have evangelical faith need not apply to the Republican party.

I’m so incredibly TIRED of the idiotic claims that evangelicals are running around trying to control other people’s lives. Of course, we try to influence: all that means is that we’re alive and functioning. Isn’t that what 5 is doing as well? However, we of all faiths know clearly that forcing outward compliance isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit.

Any common evangelical will assure you, gc, from the bottom of their Bible-clinging little heart, that they have absolutely no desire to make you “act like a Christian” if you don’t have personal faith. So–GC, relax already. Be as foulmouthed, judgmental and namecalling as you want to be. We understand. It’s who you are.

Fascist evangelical that I am (according to you), I’ll give a Scripture for that from Proverbs, “As a man thinks in his heart, so is he.” I have desire to “make you act different” than who you are. I won’t hold my breath assuming that you will extend the same courtesy to me.

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:38 am 56. Meryl:

28. Eljefe:
“Mr navarettee is right. I remember that bulwark of republicanism, Senator Byrd use the N-word on the floor of the senate. Also, don’t forget Senator Bilbo and Strom Thurmand. Yeah, These republican are sure nasty.”

…and it was our current vice-president who patronizingly described obama as a “bright, clean, articulate” black (setting Al Sharpton’s apoplexy back about 10 days)….and it was Jimmuh Carter who called obama “a little black boy” (just last year)

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:42 am 57. Meryl:

correction to #55 “I have NO desire to “make you act different” than who you are. I won’t hold my breath assuming that you will extend the same courtesy to me.”

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:44 am 58. Mike:

What the GOP should do is merge with the Libertarian Party.

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:47 am 59. Forgot one thing:

For all who want to remind us that the Democrats were the party of the Jim Crow south, you’re forgetting a critical piece of history.

In 1964, southerner LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, alienating much of the white south who had always ‘voted like they shot’ since the Civil War.

In 1968 Nixon capitalized on white resentment with his Southern Strategy, which essentially promised white southerners that his administration would stop actively promoting civil rights. The Rebublican core in the south consists of people who would have voted Democrat 50 years ago, but switched parties after the civil rights acts of the 1960s.

Essentially, the Republicans used the hate generated by racism to dominate presidential elections for the next 40 years. Politically it seems to have been a sound strategy, but as demographic trends edge whites into minority status sometime later this century, the GOP will desperately need to change its image in this respect.

It’s possible that blacks will one day vote for Republicans over Democrats, but only likely if Democrats ignore black issues. After all, blacks voted almost universally for Repbulicans (the party of emancipation) through 1900, when the party abandoned them in order to channel resources into more promising parts of the nation (mostly in the growing west). Once the Republicans were out of the south, Jim Crow laws proliferated and blacks rarely voted again until after 1964.

Jul 1, 2009 - 7:58 am 60. sheesh:

56 Meryl . . . Jimmy Carter was referring to Obama as a child. Here’s the quote:

“It already has sent a wave of approbation and admiration in many countries around the world just knowing that this black boy who grew up with just a loving mother and — and grandparents and that was about all he had to start with, has now had a chance to become the nominee of the Democratic Party for president. We’ve seen a disillusionment about our country in the last eight years with a lot of things happening like torturing of prisoners and that sort of thing. If Obama is elected, which I think he is gonna be, then I think that will be the transforming grace for the end of racism and prejudice and hatred between races in this country.”

Outrageous!

And Rove called Obama charismatic and articulate. Here’s one from Bush: “He’s an attractive guy, he’s articulate . . . ”

Bzzzz . . . try again.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:01 am 61. ReConUSMC:

Black Republicans: a turn in the culture wars
Natalie Y Moore, 10 – 02 – 2008
An alliance between black Christians and Republicans in the United States is shifting the political landscape at its grassroots, says Natalie Y Moore.

he funeral of Coretta Scott King on 7 February saw an impressive gathering of United States political leaders join the thousands of mourners at the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Georgia. As the thirty-nine speeches of tribute to Martin Luther King’s widow flowed, there was a notable contrast in the warm reception awarded to former Democratic presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, and the sharp criticism directed at another of the dignitaries invited to speak: President George W Bush.

It may seem a small confirmation of what has become one of the routine facts of American politics, the natural affinity between black people in America and the Democratic Party. But look beyond this moving national occasion which conjured so many images and associations of the great struggle for civil rights in the United States, and a different, surprising story begins to emerge.

Consider, for example, Bishop Keith A Butler, the founder and pastor of Word of Faith International Christian Center in suburban Detroit. His congregation boasts more than 21,000 members. He has churches in two states. He ministers abroad. He is black. And he is running for the United States senate – as a Republican.

The house of worship has been a stomping-ground for Republican candidates over the years, and Butler is running on the “grand old party” (GOP) ticket on a platform of opposition to same-sex marriage and abortion and advocacy of a low, flat-tax rate. Michigan Republicans have thrown their support behind Butler, a longtime volunteer with the party and former Detroit City councilman.

The election, in November 2006, is another sign of the ongoing embrace between black preachers with large (or mega) congregations and the Republican Party. To be sure, black Republicans are nothing new in this country’s political history; but with the inflamed culture wars of the 2004 presidential race still burning and President Bush’s faith-based initiatives in urban communities, more African-Americans are joining the GOP fold. Many black ministers are counselling their flock to vote Republican. And Butler is going a step further by seeking a coveted political seat.

Across the nation, the alliance between black Christian leaders and the Republican Party is strengthening – and in peculiar ways.

On 8 January 2006, an event called Justice Sunday III was held at Greater Exodus Baptist Church in Philadelphia. Hosted by Pastor Herbert Lusk II, who is black, its unusual cast of characters included the ubiquitous Jerry Falwell, members of the conservative Family Research Council, sundry rightwing politicians and a niece of Dr Martin Luther King Jr. They sang “We Shall Overcome” and pushed for issues dear to the religious right – confirming Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court and berating liberal judges.

Wellington Boone leads a megachurch in Georgia. He’s a frequent participant at Promise Keepers gatherings and is also down with Republicans. In his book Breaking Through, Boone chastises the black community for criticising Uncle Tom, instead calling him a “role model” and likening his tribulations to Jesus.

Bishop Harry Jackson Jr, head of Hope Christian Church in Maryland, tells his megachurch congregation to vote for Bush and Republican candidates. Jackson touts a “Contract with America”, an inconspicuous tie to the conservative push in Congress of a decade ago, now updated and tailored to blacks by emphasising such issues as school vouchers. He tells Christians to care about who is on the Supreme Court. In an interview with the conservative group Focus on the Family, Jackson says: “The Supreme Court is the front line of the spiritual battle for the culture. We are not fighting with flesh and blood, but we must have a clear, unified strategy that affects the engines of U.S. government.”

“We must follow the advice of Jesus,” he says, “to ‘be wise as serpents and harmless as doves’.”

Many of these pastors simply abandon traditional civil rights issues. Gregory Daniels, a pastor in Chicago and ardent Bush supporter, made headlines two years ago when he declared that if the Ku Klux Klan opposed gay marriage, he’d ride with them.

In their efforts to draw in African-Americans, the Republicans have been shrewd by appealing to the social conservatism of black churches — hostility to abortion, homosexuality, and the like. Bernice King, Martin and Coretta’s youngest daughter, is herself a pastor at the megachurch of Eddie Long, who has led anti-gay-marriage protests in Georgia.

“Hand in hand with that”, religion researcher Tom Krattenmaker says, “is the growing popularity of the ‘prosperity gospel’ in black churches, which by implication blames poor people for their poverty and essentially discourages social justice politics.” “These issues”, he says, “can distract from some of the major issues facing the black community. There are huge inequities in the education system. Not a word about that. Why isn’t that on the agenda?”

While blacks still vote heavily Democratic, the GOP has made considerable inroads of late. In the 2000 presidential race, 90% of blacks voted for Al Gore while 8% backed George W Bush, according to the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington-based black think-tank. Exit polls showed that in the 2004 election, John Kerry led Bush among black voters by an only slightly smaller margin. During a 2004 address to the National Urban League at its annual convention in Detroit, Bush challenged the allegiance of African-American voters to the Democratic Party and tried to spread doubts about Democratic intentions. “Is it a good thing for the African-American community to be represented by only one political party?” the president rhetorically asked.

In some ways the strategy worked.

Black clergy in the swing state of Ohio stumped for Bush, helping the president win there two years ago. And black voters nearly doubled their support for Bush in 2004 as compared to four years earlier.

Gay marriage became a rallying cry in the push for promoting “Christian values”. Many black congregants took the line that a vote for Kerry was a vote for going to hell. In nearby swing state Wisconsin, Bishop Sedgwick Daniels of Holy Redeemer Institutional Church of God in Christ flipped his Democratic support to back Bush in 2004.

In 2005, the Los Angeles Times reported that the 2004 elections have the GOP salivating over the prospects of a fruitful alliance with black churches and that black conservatives who helped Bush’s reelection are seeing some clout. One of the city’s largest black churches hosted more than 100 African-American ministers in their mobilisation to ban same-sex marriage, the article reported. The Times has also reported that $1.5 million in federal funds went to Daniels’ Milwaukee church.

Critics see the black church-GOP association as a crisis of leadership in the black church. There has been resistance among some black clergy who see the campaign against gay marriage as a distraction from more pressing perils facing the community, like poverty, joblessness, and educational inequalities.

Other grassroots groups are making their voices heard as well. Tuan N’Gai is the co-founder of http://www.operationrebirth.com, a website dedicated to stopping abuse against gays and lesbians in black churches. He sent an open letter to black clergy throughout the country asking them to re-evaluate their support for a federal ban on same-sex marriage. The hope was to encourage dialogue on the issue.

Meanwhile, Bishop Butler continues to barnstorm across Michigan, where he has succeeded in garnering the support of prominent Republican leaders. Former vice-presidential candidate Jack Kemp and former Congressman JC Watts co-chair his national finance committee, which has raised more than $1 million.

Butler emphasises that his pro-family platform starkly contrasts with that of incumbent Democract Debbie Stabenow. “I’m strongly pro-life, and she’s strongly pro-abortion”, he told the Christian news agency Agape Press in August 2005, “and life is the biggest issue of all.” His second issue, he said, is the protection of the traditional American family. “I strongly believe that marriage should only be between one man and one woman.”

Janet Perkins, a member of Word of Faith International Christian Center since 1999, told me that she loves and supports Butler’s senate bid. Being black and Democrat, she says, is a cliché.

“[If] God calls you to do something else … I think you need to follow that command like Moses did. In the end, the results are going to be quite positive to everyone involved.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:04 am 62. alan:

I agree whole heartedly. Republicans can either purge the racists from their ranks (by not re-electing them) or we will never win another election, no matter who is running. When it comes to race, the media’s double standard of giving democrats the benefit of the doubt while going out of their way to justify equating conservativism with hate is just a fact of life. One position I share with liberals is that racists should be discredited and marginalized as soon as they are found out.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:05 am 63. wildman:

Any black who works for a living, pays their bills, Takes care of their families and still votes democrat is nuts.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:20 am 64. Middleman:

Again, the responses virtal shows the author is right on the money.
Certainly both sides have their racists, and I know the Republicans are not jack booted fascist thugs, however the Democrats have been much smarter in terms of projecting an image as though they are looking out for the little man.
Meanwhile Republicans continue to project an image of an obnoxious pig-headed frat boy, who is indifferent at best. Now if you are an unaffilitated minority voter (or voter of any color), which would you choose?

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:30 am 65. Strawman:

But Democrats get a pass for their sins because African Americans can cite one battle after another when Democrats stood with them, dating back to Harry Truman desegregating the armed forces in 1948. And even though, in the 1950s and 1960s — which served as the defining eras for the black Civil Rights Movement — Southern Democrats were among the chief antagonists, it was Democrat John F. Kennedy who first addressed the nation on the importance of recognizing the civil rights of black Americans.

As a matter of cause-and-effect you may be right, but that kind of selective memory leaves out a few things, such as Lincoln issuing the Emancipation Proclamation and fighting a little-known war against slavery, Wilson segregating the government, Eisenhower sending the troops into Little Rock, and a few other facts of history that seem to have been purged from the collective memory.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:32 am 66. Strawman:

Any black who works for a living, pays their bills, Takes care of their families and still votes democrat is nuts.

What you’re missing is that Blacks are hugely overrepresented in the public sector, and underrepresented in the private sector. It’s a lot easier to convince a government worker that the donx are on his side. Just as a lot of Whites don’t even consider working for the government, many Blacks never consider working for the private sector.

Until this changes, you’re going to get this kind of lopsided perception of self interest. And I don’t see this changing any time soon.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:37 am 67. Julio:

As you were running a list of minor Republican officeholders making offensive comments, and giving sole credit to Democrats for advances in civil rights, you could have mentioned President Dwight Eisenhower’s accomplishments. See this Wikipedia entry ;

Eisenhower supported the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka U.S. Supreme Court decision, in which segregated (”separate but equal”) schools were ruled to be unconstitutional. The very next day he told District of Columbia officials to make Washington a model for the rest of the country in integrating black and white public school children.[48][49] He proposed to Congress the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1960 and signed those acts into law. Although both Acts were weaker than subsequent civil rights legislation, they constituted the first significant civil rights acts since the 1870s. The “Little Rock Nine” incident of 1957 involved the refusal by Arkansas to honor a Federal court order to integrate the schools. Under Executive Order 10730, Eisenhower placed the Arkansas National Guard under Federal control and sent Army troops to escort nine black students into an all-white public school. The integration did not occur without violence. Eisenhower and Arkansas governor Orval Faubus engaged in tense arguments.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:42 am 68. Strawman:

In 1968 Nixon capitalized on white resentment with his Southern Strategy, which essentially promised white southerners that his administration would stop actively promoting civil rights. The Rebublican core in the south consists of people who would have voted Democrat 50 years ago, but switched parties after the civil rights acts of the 1960s.

Essentially, the Republicans used the hate generated by racism to dominate presidential elections for the next 40 years.

Projection. Nixon didn’t cause the schism in the Democrat party. That was done entirely by the northeastern wing. He was just standing there while it happened. Don’t blame the the donkey train wreck on him.

This conspiracy theory is more than a little bit old. Tricky Dick couldn’t even accomplish any of his objectives including staying in office for two terms. And somehow he had the mystical voodoo power to cause the donkeys to bifurcate. Yeah.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:46 am 69. Aureliano:

One position I share with liberals is that racists should be discredited and marginalized as soon as they are found out.

That is NOT the position of liberals.

The modern liberal believes only in his political tribe: claims to anti-racism and anti-sexism are just unicorn words and rainbow phrases they attach to themselves as part of the grand narrative of their own wonderfulness and social and intellectual transcendance.

In reality, to the modern liberal there ARE correct forms of racism and sexism, contingent only upon one’s race and gender.

And in the end, however, they absolutely WILL NOT drum out even incorrect forms of racism and sexism. Political tribe comes first, and keeping these creeps in the tribe — if they have power and influence — is paramount …

… for the greater good (and the children).

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:50 am 70. blotto:

No! No! No! For Pete’s sake. Navarette is a moron who uses race to get a rise out of us-Conservatives. He does this because we let him. We all know that for every instance of someone on the right saying something offensive there are 10 things said by progressives, but as was noted, progressives get a pass. And of course Navarette will not write a balanced article because that does not fit his agenda.

Look, we will never get the black vote because they have been trained like Pavlov’s dog to respond to government largesse, which the Dems have a monopoly on giving. From welfare to affirmative action, the Dems have bought the black vote. And no matter how much the Dems enslave the black community, they will continue to vote for them.

The very real racism and modern slavery is wrought on the blacks by the Dem party. But because of progressive education, MSM, pop culture and racialist hacks, blacks can not see they are nothing more than chattel slaves to the Dems.

I say forget the blacks, Hispanics and any other indentity group the Dems have parsed out the the American population. Those who choose to live free will vote conservative. Those who achieved something of their lives will vote conservative. Those with some artifact of an education will vote conservative. Our trouble is that we do not have a conservative with a message and the charisma to deliver it.

PJM’s trouble is that they allow this nutjob to post here. And if you feed the trolls like Sheesh, they continue to come back.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:52 am 71. Fred Beloit:

Middle; because the Dems have run most large cities since forever, and since the blacks feel they have made insufficient progress since forever, and because the Dems and their favored unions have destroyed the opportunity for a decent education in the black communities and to this very day oppose charter schools and other reforms in education; the blacks who want better education for their children should start voting Repub, should they not?

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:53 am 72. Scott:

Somewhere along the way people got Republicans and Democrats mixed up, just like they got Muslims & Christians mixed up.

Republicans – Abolition of slavery, opposition to Jim Crow, equal opportunity (not outcome) for all Americans

Democrats – Slavery, Jim Crow laws, Woodrow Wilson, Robert Byrd, the KKK, Antisemitism, Welfare programs that destroyed the black family, and the list goes on.

Christians (for the most part)aren’t trying to shove their religion down your throats, Muslims are however. Its not just through terrorism either, how many Christian Taxi cab drivers have refused to carry passengers with alcohol or seeing-eye dogs? How about refusing to cook or ring up pork & alcohol at the local restaurant or grocery?

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:54 am 73. paul_unalaska:

Ruben, the only ‘R’ politician you speak of in your piece is Mayor of Los Alamitos? That’s it? That’s all you got?

Instead of pointing the finger at ‘evil, white politicians’ – you should direct your angst at the real enablers. Sharpton and J. Jackson, Holder, the dozens of black Mayors across the country who are the epitome of racists.

Heck, there was a Mayor on NPR during the Pres. election (I can’t recall his name) who’d said Obama ‘transcends race’. Who is Obama.. Jesus? Mohammed? Utter stupidity..

As for your never ending identity politics game, it’s tiresome, Ruben.
If you want to play ‘fair’ on both spectrum, refer to white people as ‘European Americans’ – sarc off.

It’s the ‘African American’ identifier as to why there IS division in our country. I’m 2nd generation American and am probably less removed from Europe than 90% + black people in the U.S.

Pandering to a particular demographic, race, religion is just that.. pandering. It’s disingenuous, the motives suspect and is counterproductive. Unfortunately you’re reading the aforementioned and probably unable to understand the message.

Your P.C. approach is cowardly, moronic and childish.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:59 am 74. Michael:

The debate really is over. The Democrats are the ones to judge people on their skin color. Republicans are the ones that judge people by their character and actions.

Boad brush? Of course. It’s still true.

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:04 am 75. IB Bill:

Hmm … I just got an idea. Maybe the answer isn’t for the GOP to try to woo black voters; maybe the answer is to shut down the GOP and we conservatives all join the Democratic Party … then we can alter the Democratic agenda from within. Blacks would be on conservatives’ side on social issues.

Just thinking out loud.

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:06 am 76. paul_unalaska:

Lastly, the ‘No Child Left Behind’ program concocted by Ted Kennedy and come to fruition by Bush.. is a disaster!

There ARE children ‘Left Behind’ so to speak regarding due to the family dynamic having parents who possess or are)little education, b)not english speaking, c) incarcerated, d)single parent, etc.,

Ahhh, Government-run education – what a joke.

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:06 am 77. antaine:

Do I think that members of the GOP are more racist than the Dems? No.

Do I think that the Dems are horrifically racist in that their policies target minorities with a victimization mentality and programs designed to make and keep them government dependant? Yes.

Do I think any of that matters? No, in politics perception=reality.

The GOP know they are wrongly painted in a bad light, and so they need to be extra careful with the perception they give off. Don’t go giving the enemy ammunition, as it were.

“Any black who works for a living, pays their bills, Takes care of their families and still votes democrat is nuts.”

Wildman, this is true for everyone, not just blacks, and yet they still do it in droves. Why? Because they’ve bought the fairytale they’ve been spoon-fed from the time they were old enough to talk through media and the school system. They honestly believe that both parties are equally corrupt and spendy. The difference lies in the details (Republicans are rich racists who want to destroy mother earth while hating everyone not like them, don’t you know? Democrats want to ‘”help.”). A conversation with a friend this past week left him flabbergasted by the statement that statism and one-world-government nonsense (like the EU) is a “Left” thing and not a “Right” thing at all. He’d been brought up to believe the opposite of what was true, and it was unfathomable to him that his own side was responsible for the global governing movements that he didn’t like.

While the lionshare of the black vote will undoubtedly go to the Dems for the rest of my lifetime, the GOP needs to stop writing off groups of people (feeding identity politics), communities and entire states.

Look at what happened in the last election. At the outset, the GOP sat down, colored all the blue states blue and said, “these are a waste of time, we need to concentrate on keeping these red states.” The Dems sat down and colored all the blue states blue and said, “these are ours, we need to hit him where he lives.” While it wasn’t the only factor in the GOP loss, nor the only problem problem in the way the campaign was executed, the result was that the GOP entered the race on the defensive. Obama got all the blue states and some of McCain’s share of red and thus won.

And yes, McCain did do some campaigning at the 11th hour in blue states, but was platered for “wasting time and resources” and clearly didn’t have the support of the rest of the party in that move.

The GOP needs to get a Reagan message out there so the red states are safe, and it needs to start spreading that message to even the bluest of blue areas. Not everyone there will bite…perhaps most won’t, but it may mean a congressional seat or three.

The fact that there are Democrats who run unopposed ANYWHERE in this country is disgraceful.

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:09 am 78. Confounded:

I always laugh that people try this old schtick.

“Oh, yeah. Well, I once had an uncle that told a racist joke. So, all old people are racists.”

*pathetic*

And, I always laugh when the lefty attempts to honor Kennedy and Johnson for signing the Civil Rights Acts. Go check the congressional voting numbers. Go determine the percentages of Republicans congressmen who voted for the Acts, and compare that against the Democrats who voted for the Acts. The numbers will stun, and illuminate.

Unfortunately, these stunning and illuminating facts won’t prevent Ruben and his fellow-lefty-hacks from rewriting history, and perpetrating the Republicans-are-racist fraud.

I won’t give Ruben anymore of my time.

Ciao, for now. God bless America.

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:17 am 79. Strawman:

I recognized the face of these privileged white liberals who called me racist but were the first to flee.

Q: What major American city never had a black part of town in the city limits?

A: San Fransisco.

Have you ever noticed that the only place you ever see a Black and a hippy in the same place is in a band? Otherwise, the uberlib bo-bos head for the hills when they see a minority (’cept when they need some gardening done).

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:42 am 80. Strawman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnCwMDHM_JQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideosearch%3Fq%3Dgoode%2Bfamily%26oe%3Dutf-8%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF-8%26ei%3DMZJ&feature=player_embedded

Jul 1, 2009 - 9:50 am 81. Will:

Speak for yourself Ruben.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:02 am 82. Mongoose:

Forgot one thing: That is hogwash. The so called “Southern Strategy” is a fiction. It is Democrat propaganda.

The southern whites who voted for voted for Nixon did so because they ran McGovern against him. Democrat Southern Bigots (who constituted most of the racists in the south) went for Wallace for the most part. Racists Southerners hated the GOP. It had been the party of the Blacks in the South (and elsewhere) ever since emancipation. Had the Democrats run a moderate or a right of center Candidate like Caret or Clinton both professed to be, the odds are very strong that Nixon would have lost in 1968.

Stop quoting Democrat propaganda sources as facts!

This is the problem with you liberals, You use liberal propaganda organs to buttress your arguments, and you act like their propaganda is history! It most certainly is not.

Nixon opposed busing, which was a big issue, and for good reason. Most people did not like it.
They work hard all their lives to get to the point where they can move to a decent school district and the government comes along and takes that away. Under what constitutional power does the government have the right to do that? Other than that, he supported minority set-asides in Government Contracts, and he supported affirmative action. There is nothing racist about any part of his government service.

Nixon’s big sin was wanting to roll back LBJ’s Great Society–that and being a staunch enemy of Communism. Hence the cries of “racism” and the invention of the myth of the “Southern Strategy” in the 1968 (and 1972) presidential election. This bit of agitprop still lingers. It was–and still is–the common tactic of the Left to shout “racist” when anyone opposes the redistributionist policies of the Marxist Welfare State. Why is that? Because the left wishes to buy the votes of those who would be clients of the State. To stand against this is a profoundly moral act. It is not racism. The Democrat tactic most certainly was racist for it posits: 1) That Blacks can not take care of themselves and thus require the State to help them, 2) That Whites somehow “owe them this, and 3) The while thing is just a cynical manipulation of racial tensions in the first place–it is electioneering, vote buying and a masked run at socialism. This is all immoral in its parts and in its whole.

The Left uses this race card ploy to cover up what they really are up to, which is to attack America’s core values and replace it with Marxism. They are doing it now with illegal immigrants, the Hispanic vote at large and they even go as far to court felons. It is pure cynicism and it is evil. Do not imagine for one second that the effete elites of the democrat party give one fig for minorities, or anyone else for that matter, other than to use them to grab power, secure it and implement their hideous designs on the National and the world.

Yet Nixon and the GOP took a principled stand–one much less cynical and manipulative than the Democrats, and the democrats projected their parties racism on him.

It was George Wallace that split out the Democrat Vote in 1968, for Pete’s sake. Get your facts straight.

This is just a Democrat lie that you are repeating. The Southern Strategy is a Democrat lie!

The South, like the most of the country, rejected the the McGovern/New Left coalition. If there was a GOP Southern Strategy during the Nixon years, it was to convince white southerns that the hated party of Lincoln, the traditional Party of the Back Man, upheld core American values while the Democrats had gone so far to the Left that they were a danger to the USA. And, of course he was right.

If there is was underhanded “Southern Strategy”, it is on the Democrat side. It has two components: 1) Put up Southern Governers (from corrput Democrat state political machines, i might add) and 2) Wink at the racist wing of the Deocrat rank and file in the south and tell them that it will not be that bad. That is why Carter and Clinton were chosen. That is why up until lately no Black was ever given a serious position in any Democrat Administration. And one could argue that Obama is not really calling the shots this time around.

Remember, local state political machines for the most part remained Democrat, there was no solid transition across the south to the GOP. Go look up state legislature compositions election results of governors and national House and Senate elections over the last 100 years.

BTW, I can assure you that the national election at that time was mostly about Vietnam, the Cold War and the Welfare State of the Great Society for most of the country, not about “race”.

You liberals live in this alternate reality of a fabricated history, and you spout this stuff out and just assume that it is true.

Use your common sense.

How could a party held in contempt by white DEMOCRAT bigots for generations, The Party of the North, the occupying party of Reconstruction, the party that push the Civil Rights Act over the wall just a few years before, (something like 80% of the GOP voted for it), turn around and convince them that they were the party of Racists?

And what would the rest of the national GOP think about that? How would they get away with it? How would they suppress this from the rest of the country? The Democrats had even more control of the media then they they do now. How would they do it?

Show me concrete proof of this, and not something out of context or something anecdotal either.

Show me the campaign speeches, show me the campaign documents. NAd do not show me Democrat agitprop or the spouting of Democrat pundits.

Then show me any action by Nixon in his years of service in the House, Senate or White House that supports any bit of these allegations.

Democrats are LIARS. When they open their mouths, lies come out. You should stop repeating their lies.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:02 am 83. Douglas:

gcblues, I imagine you are haunted by specters in your closet. The imaginary right wing zealots you cry about are your weakness no one elses. If you believe in nothing you will fall for anything.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:03 am 84. Strawman:

Mongoose (82),

There’s a related misconception that conveniently props up the donkey narrative: Goldwater was a racist. Goldwater was a principled libertarian. LBJ was a pandering populist. There’s zero evidence that either man was racist, but somehow opposing some of the more invasive aspects of the Civil Rights Act was spun into “racist”.

It’s outrageous, but that’s how they do business.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:20 am 85. Middleman:

“Middle; because the Dems have run most large cities since forever, and since the blacks feel they have made insufficient progress since forever, and because the Dems and their favored unions have destroyed the opportunity for a decent education in the black communities and to this very day oppose charter schools and other reforms in education; the blacks who want better education for their children should start voting Repub, should they not?”

Maybe they should, Fred. However shouldn’t the Republicans as a political party do a better job at selling themselves to that voter block than the miserable job they’ve done so far? Free enterprise, sink or swim, you can’t wait for the business to just come to you. Right?

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:24 am 86. urbanleftbehind:

Strawman:

So how do you explain Bayview/HP and Potrero? Although you could be technically correct about SF: many neighborhoods that became iconic black neighborhoods in the Western U.S. were the result of the internment of Japanese-Americans and the need to house black workers near West Coast industrial and military installation.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:34 am 87. MarkD:

Mr Navarrette’s prejudices are of no interest to me. He won my Molly Ivins award, given to those who will have no new thoughts, ever. His byline is enough to guarantee I will skip the article. If I were to live to be 200, I still wouldn’t have the time to waste on this predictable drivel.

Have a good life sir, because you won’t be wasting any more of mine.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:38 am 88. Strawman:

How those cities got that way is another question entirely. The point of this is that the bo-bos (bohemian bourgeois) are attracted to all-white places (they’ll tolerate Asians, who are considered honorary whites, sort of).

Another West Coast city that demonstrates this is Portland. Something like 6% black, and overrun with hippies. Then you go up to the Seattle area, and Tacoma is 11% black, and very few bo-bos. Then you go to Seattle, which 8% black, and you find more bo-bos. There’s a direct inverse relationship.

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:46 am 89. The Shadow:

You really have to laugh – With his reasonable article Ruben has shone a bright light on an important issue, but shining the light here at PJM has just caused the wingnuts her to be caught in its glare. In fact they seem to flock to his light like moths to a flame not realizing they expose their own prejudices

Jul 1, 2009 - 10:52 am 90. Sebastian Shaw:

Bigots exist on both sides of the aisle; however, the MSM just tend to paint the Republicans as bigots. They conveniently leave out the Lefitst’s bigoted slurs to minority Republicans. You sir have just parroted the MSM for your essay. Your thesis is not original & should have not been published. I can find this other stuff daily spouted by Katie Couric, Brian Williams, & every other Leftist bomb thrower.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:01 am 91. Delia:

It’s okay to be a bigot if you hate whitey. Period.

Did blacks sell slaves? Yes.

Do blacks still enslave each other? Yes.

-But, that’s no-no talk. We can’t have that!

Victims? Please, I grew up poor and victimized.

I don’t blame ‘whitey’ even though all of the people who molested and abused me were ‘white’. Sickos are sickos no matter what ’shade’ of skin.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:09 am 92. Aureliano:

The Shadow,

Blah blah blah WINGNUTS blah blah blah WINGNUTS blah blah blah WINGNUTS blah blah blah WINGNUTS.

Racists!

Thank you.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:13 am 93. Rosita:

Navarete attempt to be relevant. Doesn’t have a clue. You’re the one who’s a bigot, you think all “minorities” can be lumped together in one category? Ethnicities who were considered “minorities” a couple generations ago, are now just considered “white.” Minorities assimilate, and statistics show most people are conservative. Good luck with your incendiary articles on how racist Republicans are, one-trick pony.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:15 am 94. Strawman:

They conveniently leave out the Leftist’s bigoted slurs to minority Republicans.

Never mind their indulgence of antisemitism. And don’t even get started on their indulgence of misogyny when it’s a woman not on the approved list.

Just like with carbon indulgences, being on the left grants indulgences to be bigots of any kind, past, present, and in the future. Who again is the only Grand Kleagle in the senate?

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:20 am 95. rbell:

OK, all you history buffs. NO ONE CARES. If you want the black vote, forget about history, the clan, and who started what. It does not matter. Nobody cares about history.

Money talks and Bull**** walks. It may surprise you that most blacks are conservative in their life style and want the same thing that all Americans want. Emphasize jobs, education, protection of religion, and yes even family values. Then deliver.

Don’t bother pandering to the race merchants whom we all know by name.They were bought and paid for a long time ago. They ain’t changing their allegiances. Tell them (the black voters)you want their vote and why. That might work. You might also tell some white people why they should vote for you.

If you are a Republican politician consider an agenda that we can all buy into – like giving GM back to the private sector to create jobs instead of campaign contributions. What do you stand for? Do you have a vision for America? Are you pro Capitalism or just luke warm socialists? Are you for cleaning up corruption in Government. Not really. Eight of your reps were just bribed to vote on the CAP bill. It should be renamed the Economic Poison Pill Bill.

There are plenty of Black conservatives out there, use them. Oh that’s right “they are conservatives and the Republicans don’t like conservatives any better than the Dems. Ain’t that right Tom Ridge? Allen Keyes and Sara Palin are united together in harmony, black and white, as persona non-grata in the Republican fold. There is unity for you.

Obama is setting up a Stalinist regime and the mousy Republicans all upset over an AWOL governor and his affair with an Argentina woman. Now that is not seeing the trees from the forest. We can’t take on Obama so lets kick Sanford while he is down, and feel good about ourselves.

Republicans should go by their real name, Morons.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:34 am 96. Damian G.:

What a shabbily written article. Of course moron Republican officials shouldn’t make bigoted statements like this, but the fact is, almost no-one has heard of these incidents. The national Republican Party certainly needs to reach out to minorities in a genuine way, but obsessing over some random idiot’s Facebook message as the cause for some mass exodus of blacks from conservatism – as opposed to, say, the first black Presidential nominee – is ludicrous.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:40 am 97. Forgot one thing:

Strawman and Mongoose,

The following is taken from a NYT article titled “To Preserve the Two Party System” written by Republican Senator Jacob Javits, published on 10-27-1963:

“There is a second body of respectable opinion within the Repbulican Party that would commit the party to a tactic that could cost the party its very soul; it consists of those who advocate the idea of a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the election.”

“The Southern Strategy is based on the theory that a Republican presidential nominee can win the presidency by adhering to a ’states’-rights’ approach in civil rights. . . . The ’states’-rights’ formula for handling the civil rights issue . . . would result in a victory in the Electoral College, by carrying the ‘traditional’ Republican states of northern New England, the Midwest, and the Rocky Mountains, as well as all 11 Southern states.”

I’m not sure how this is Democratic propoganda or a conspiracy theory; it seems pretty clear to me what this man is saying, and he was a Republican. I agree that the Democratic Party imploded over civil rights and that neither Nixon nor any other Republican had anything to do with that. I’m just saying that this was an idea being kicked around in Republican circles even prior to the 1964 election. An intellectually honest case can be made that Nixon took advantage of the situation he was presented (as politicans do) by making the arguments that gave him the best chance to win. In 1968, he told southerners he would restore ‘law and order,’ which many took to mean supporting local law enforcement against protestors.

The bottom line is that it doesn’t even matter whether the strategy had any effect on the ‘68 election; the mere fact that Repbulicans were known publicly to be considering this course of action would be enough to lose the black vote.

If either of you would like to refute my argument with evidence, (as I’ve just done for you), I’d be happy to look at it. I suspect you’ll just throw more vitriol my way, however.

And strawman, if this argument seems old to you, that’s becuause it is. It’s called history – you should look into it sometime.

Jul 1, 2009 - 11:53 am 98. asdf:

Asshats come in all shapes, sizes, and colors… and you are one of them. Does that make me racist?

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:11 pm 99. Mongoose:

Shadow. You are not reading what people are writing. Just the opposite has happened. You are projecting you own bigotry on us, as Democrats nearly always do. But then to understand that, you would have to abandon the fake history, agitprop, deceit, hypocrisy and shear loopy self delusions of the Left, and that you cannot do. What would there be left in your “mind” then? Your “understanding” of the political history of this nation is a complete fiction.
Why do you want to be the patsy of people that lie to you.

Strawman: Years ago the Fillmore district was a black district, right in the heart of the City and County of SF. It was not that terrible really. San Fran never really had a black ghetto, in the bleak sense we think of them, in this century, though it did have a barrio (SOMO as it is called now, and out toward the towers.) Oakland was the large black community along with some communities on the east side of the Bay north of Berkeley. Richmond, home of Pixar, was once heavily black, and was kind of rough. Oakland of course was a war zone way back when.

I can remember Fillmore still being quite predominantly black in the 1970’s.
It was not particularly dangerous if you where a man and knew what you were doing, but then neither was Harlem.

But certainly you have point. Starting in the Mid/late 1970’s SF was heavily gentrified and a great many groups were pushed out, including a lot of middle class and working class whites. The Blacks headed over across the bay to Oakland for the most part. SF is really trust fund land now. The same applies to Berkeley now too.
(note, have not lived in The Bay Area for decades).

If NYC is a city for the Rich and powerful, SF is a city for the Rich and Powerless (excluding Silicon valley types, natch.) But this was not always so. It was once rather moderate to conservative politically. It was always the home for and tolerant of eccentrics, but it was not always a hive for very rich , ultra liberal elitists. This is mostly the result if the 1970’s and the 1960’s. People forget that SF was not really a large metro area until the last 25 years or so.

So your point still stands really. SF City and County (which is exactly the same area) is a very socially contained space, and it is for the very rich and their handlers, and is ultra liberal.

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:24 pm 100. urbanleftbehind:

Strawman:

Will the bo-bos call on Sheriff Joe to take out the brown boys once LA is cleansed of blacks? Thats the multimillion dollar question.

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:24 pm 101. Strawman:

There is a second body of respectable opinion within the Repbulican Party that would commit the party to a tactic that could cost the party its very soul; it consists of those who advocate the idea of a ‘Southern Strategy’ to win the election.

So Javits talks about a broad concept, and therefore Nixon must have done it. I think the logic there is a wee bit weak.

Let me guess. 9/11 was in inside job, right?

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:30 pm 102. gcblues:

mongoose, meryl, etc

your silly responses make the point, thank you. first you tell me i am wrong. then you tell me i must be a lefty. too funny really. then you cite the importance, not of religion, but your particular brand of it. my point proven. thank you.
i do not care what you believe. but your personal spiritual views have no place in civil law. no, i am not interested in a bunch of fanatical selected quotes “proving” the usa is a christian nation, because it is not. that most founders were religious, that most were influenced by religion does not equate with being a christian nation. most founders were deeply concerned about religious differences and kept it out of civil matters because as ayn rand pounded out, the separation of church and state is because there is no other way for people with different views to get along. at the time of our revolution we had already divided ourselves into papist and protestant states. there was already the sour taste of religious laws demanding everything from church attendance to demanding oaths of allegiance to one view or another. these laws were rejected by the founders. the founders were quite aware that religious division deserved no legal standing, or we would fail.
if you wish to use the law to cement your views into society, you are no better than the leftard ant farmers that do the same from the other side. that includes laws that cement english into a culture that is not english, it includes law of marriage that are christian based, it includes demands that people of other cultures become like you to be acceptable, i.e. assimilation. are those enough examples of divisive law? i made the point that to suppress that nastiness is the basis of american conservatism. your brand of nationalism, mongoose certainly, more resembles euro right wing fascism. your instant nasty response demanding examples and then providing them speaks for it self.
i respectfully suggest when you another persons words you read them in search of their thoughts not yours. you avoid silly errors, like saying my views were left based. too funny really. especially after citing burke and hayek

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:40 pm 103. Strawman:

Oh, and if you want to talk about history, what party does the only Grand Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops in congress belong to? Why wasn’t he tossed out on his butt 50 years ago (that’s right; 50 years)?

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:45 pm 104. Mongoose:

Forget one thing: You are using a NYT ARTICLE!!!!

This is propaganda, pure and simple. Read it. Where are the facts? It is just opinions parading around as history. Where is the discussion of Wallace? the New Left? The opposition to the Great Society? the Cold War? What are these promises that Nixon made about “pulling back on Civil Rights”? What were these promises and when and where, in his own words, did he make these promises? Where is some documentation? I have already dispatched this nonsense. There is no substance at all to that claim. None. Prove it!

You cannot use Democrat propaganda for a counter-argument. What is wrong with you? That is the whole point! Are you stupid? Cannot you not read English?

The NYT is one large lie from the front page to the back one. Quoting from it to support the “Southern Strategy” slander against the GOP is like quoting from Pravda to support a critique of capitalism.

(oh and there is no doubt a Wikipedia entry that is just as much a lie.)

Stop being absurd. You are just buying into lies.

In my comment about this I specified what it would take to rebut my position. Go back and reread it.

You would need actual proof of it. Not some “commentary” from a Democrat propaganda organ, Democrat propagandist, Democrat pundit, Democrat Academic or lackey. For crying out loud, what is the matter with you?

Prove it from direct sources and stop quoting sworn enemies of the GOP.

The Left are LIARS, the bigger the lie the better. These are the same people that are telling you that the National SOCIALIST WORKERS Party was a right wing political movement!

Nearly everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie! Get wise to this. They are the same sort that made up the Bolsheviks or the Fascist parties. In fact they are Bolsheviks and Fascists, and now openly so. Stop being a chump.

There was no racist GOP southern strategy, period. Prove it!

Jul 1, 2009 - 12:53 pm 105. Forgot one thing:

Strawman,

I don’t know if Nixon tried it or not, although I suspect he did simply because it was politically expedient. With the shoe on the other foot, any Democrat would have done the same – they’re all politicians.

What I do know is that this idea was put into the public discourse by a Republican. That being the case, I suspect blacks weren’t (and still aren’t) particularly keen on voting for Republicans. Is that too great a logical leap for you?

By the way, I’m still waiting for some evidence that doesn’t come straight out of your imagination.

Jul 1, 2009 - 1:10 pm 106. Forgot one thing:

Mongoose,

The man who wrote the article was a Republican politician – you’re going to have a hard time convincing me that he is making this up just to help Democrats. Turn down the volume on the blind rage for a minute. I’m not calling anyone names, so relax.

Jul 1, 2009 - 1:28 pm 107. Mongoose:

gcblue: Stop putting words in my mouth. You are just off on a rant and up on some little anti-christian hobby horse of yours, no doubt prompted by you own inability to face your own capacity for immorality, and the vexing and nearby example of Christians that are capable of such things. Or maybe you just do not like the democratic process. Whatever prompts this display, you need to do some soul searching.

Think not? just read your own garbage.

You are putting words in people’s mouths. You are the one being nasty. You are the one desperately trying to push your will on other people. You are the one trying to impose your view. You are projecting your own demons onto Christians. Your skin is paper thin–hardly the sign of a clear conscience or stable and true beliefs. In the process you are making unfounded claims and therefore slandering and insulting decent and upstanding citizens–in fact they are exemplars of citizenship. Goodness, your whole rant began with the notion that the GOP should “get rid of the evangelicals”, a group that makes up about a third of the party and is one of the groups that most consistently gets to the polls and volunteers to help at the grass roots level. Just who is impsoing his will on whom in this maater? (Note: I am an RC, not an evangelical, but i am a practicing Christian.)

You are acting like an immature and intemperate fool as far as I am concerned, and I have little respect for you or your opinions opinions until i get the apology out of you that you so clearly owe me and the Christians on this site.

I have asked for an example of your claims. You have produced noting but more slander and venom.
Shame on you. I still wait for that apology

If you cannot produce one you need to get OUT of the GOP, you need to GET AWAY from Conservative, or even moderates. If fact, you need to get away from decent people. You will find that you are little wanted. You do not belong with us. You need to go over the the Atheistic Cultural Marxists of the Left and the moral relativists and the self absorbed Secular Humanists of the Democrat Party–with all the immorality that this implies–for that is what you really are and that is where you truly belong. You just do not know it yet. But belong there you do: this is why you echo their slanders and lies, and and that is why you love to wallow in their venomous hatred.

Your vile, ranting temper tantrums prove this.

You position is based in bile and hatred and not fact. My guess is it is really yourself that you hate. You certainly do not know much about Christians in America today either inside or outside of the GOP. Christians are one of the most benign social forces in the nation. You should go out to a church one Sunday morning and have a look at these “tyrants” that you are so afraid of. Careful though, they might take a swat at you with their walkers, fearsome creatures that they are.

Christians are not trying to put forward a “theocracy” That is just a lie.
It is absurd on the face of it.

It is you that want to control people. Just read your own railing and ranting.

And BTW, Christians have the right that any citizen has to see that what is good and decent and moral is not marched over by the Hobnob boots of the Left. In fact, it is their duty.

Please, if you cannot see your way clear to apologies for your insults and falsehoods, then do not ever interact with me again. I really can have no respect for you if you cannot see how vile you are behaving.

Jul 1, 2009 - 1:43 pm 108. The Shadow:

Man – you could almost feel sorry for Mongoose caught up in his own blind rage

Jul 1, 2009 - 2:02 pm 109. blotto:

gcblues: Mongoose and others are trying to be civil and debate you. But what they do not understand is that you and Shadow are not here to debate. You are only here to incite, deflect and to demoralize through lie, inuendo and Orwellian double speak Conservatives. It is useless to debate you because you do not debate. Same with Shadow.

Both of you are pathetic tools of the progressives. I would bet that both of you are either paid by some 527, work directly for them or at the very least get your marching orders from them.

As I see it, Mongoose and others have made clear, cogent and factual arguments. You, on the other hand, typically rely on hyperbole, surrounded by double speak inside a lie.

Jul 1, 2009 - 2:57 pm 110. sheesh:

108 Shadow . . . Yeah, almost . . .

It’s almost like listening to Gary Busey. Some of my favorite Mongoosian diddies:

You are just off on a rant and up on some little anti-christian hobby horse of yours.

Are you stupid? Cannot you not read English?

Stop being absurd.

Christians are one of the most benign social forces in the nation.

Prove it from direct sources and stop quoting sworn enemies of the GOP. (the NYT)

I really can have no respect for you if you cannot see how vile you are.

If fact, you need to get away from decent people. You will find that you are little wanted. You do not belong with us.

You have produced noting but more slander and venom. Shame on you. I still wait for that apology.

Busey, right? Or maybe Latka Gravas from the show Taxi.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:03 pm 111. Tom D:

This is so similar to a Leonard Pitts syndicated column of a few days ago, it could have been written by the same pen.

FWIW, Republicans in both the House and Senate voted for the Civil and Voting Rights Acts in much larger percentages than the Democrats,

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:10 pm 112. Frank:

It’s true that Obama wouldn’t have gotten this far if he wasn’t black. He is truly the first affirmative action president; and it’s not racist to point that out.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:12 pm 113. Frank:

#5: gcblues:

You sound way more like a Libertarian than a conservative

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:19 pm 114. Blackwell:

When the GOP stands for something that people can vote for other than being a reliable “war party, it’ll get votes from blacks and whites. Till then, its the party of avacado farm write offs, offshore location tax breaks, martinis and Thurston Howell III look alikes that call their wives “pookums.”

When the GOP makes an sustained issue of incompetent teachers and their rpotective unions, off shore tax breaks that increase the burden on all of us, college tuition exploding beyond the CPI to fund absolutely useless graduate schools and “studies” programs, it might have something that will captivate a voter.

When it complains about tearing down small houses to build a big shopping cinter, when it calls for controls on no knock raids and the mindless incarceration of non-violent crimainls for minor parole violations, then it might be seen as something woth voting for.

When it opposes deficits and corruption all the time, it might be seen as an honest steward. Till then, its just another party hoping to be empowered so it can return to ripping off lobbyists. Don’t blame black voters: they are not stupid and its silly to whine about them voting for a party that at least pretends to care. Blacks are basically conservative voters and want better schools, lower crime and a strong military too.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:29 pm 115. steveg:

The republicans are considered racist because they want all Americans to be treated equally (NO QUOTAS). Of course, everyone being treated equal in todays looney left world is considered controversial.

Jul 1, 2009 - 3:42 pm 116. myth buster:

If people want to talk about slavery, I may as well point out that I’m a Slav. The term slavery originated from the enslavement of the Slavic people. Slavs, for those who don’t know, originated in Northeastern Europe (read: white).

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:02 pm 117. sheesh:

steveg . . . Let me guess . . . you’re white.

Jul 1, 2009 - 4:30 pm 118. steveg:

I was an independent until I saw how Democrats treated Clarence Thomas during his confirmation hearings. They absolutely detest conservative minorities.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:13 pm 119. njcommuter:

Mongoose:
nj commuter: what nonsense. You imagine that 10 to 12% of the population is that drucial to the GOP, particularly when they hae allowed themselve top become clients of the state.

Let us stick to principles here. The rest will follow. These sort of demogaphic marketing tactics are part the problem is for the GOP. Stad up for what s right and stop sugar-coating it with “liberal-speak”.

The tactics of “Group rights” conferred on manufactured victims is the stuff of Collectivist attacks on our civilization.

This is how we talk past each other. I have no more belief in group ‘rights’ than you do. We must fight this idea at every point and in every way. BUT we must do it without insult and without handing the Democrats talking points. I don’t want race to be an issue, but the Democrats do and they are continually rubbing salt in the wound and then calling the salt by ‘Republican’ and ‘free market’ names.

We have to reclaim this territory, or at least drive the enemy off it. But a frontal assault through a minefield will not carry the battle. And that is what we face right now.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:16 pm 120. SukieTawdry:

Democrat Lyndon Johnson never would have been able to sign the Civil Rights Act of 1964 had it not been for the efforts of minority leader Everett Dirksen and the votes from his Republican caucus.

…and — thank you, Geraldine Ferraro — someone who wouldn’t have gotten this far in life if he hadn’t been black.

Oh goody, an opportunity to repeat myself: Geraldine is quite right. If Stanley Ann Dunham had bedded down with a good old white, American Marxist, the world would not have given her boy Barry a second glance. Nor, I’ll wager (and here I can only speculate because the president refuses us access to his college transcripts and SAT/LSAT scores, but for a narcissist of his magnitude, that’s fairly telling), would there have been scholarships to a fancy Hawaiian prep school or Occidental College. No transfer to Columbia, no Harvard Law, no president of Law Review, no book deal, no careful nurturing of a legislative career, no spotlight at the Democratic convention, no serious consideration for the presidency. Being the son of a black Kenyan is the best thing that ever happened to Barack Jr. You might say it made him. Ironically enough, our Gaff-O-Matic vice president had it pegged exactly: “articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy” and, oh yeah, black.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:23 pm 121. Blarty Blarckleblart:

But if you give up the bigotry there’ll be nothing left.

Jul 1, 2009 - 5:33 pm 122. steveg:

#117 Sheesh….I am a member of the race and gender that Robert Reich (Obama Advisor) admitted in a hearing, will not be receiving any contracts from stimulus funds. Reich is the poster child for self-loathing, guilt-tripped white liberals.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:10 pm 123. Edward A:

Let’s be honest with ourselves. The Republican Party is not now and never has been known to favor the minorities. Whether black, brown or gay, the GOP was always ‘on the fence’ with these groups. And, these groups have responded accordingly.

But, the latest ‘headline’ which impacts the Republican south is the disaster known as Gov. Mark Sanford. His continuing revelations makes his marriage vows a mockery. And, to think he was one who had potential to be a national candidate.

It is not what the Democrats do that have as much impact on America but the continuing foibles of the elected Republicans. The GOP needs to find its focus and agenda. The mission is slowly fading before our eyes.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:45 pm 124. Aleena:

This article is offensive and wrong. From all of the Republicans in the country, this man picks four obscure people who have said improper things and this means that all Republicans are racists. The city of Los Alamitos has a population of 11,536; I’m sure it’s mayor speaks for the entire Republican party?

On a daily basis the Democrats trash the Republicans any chance, any way they can, and because this is Democrats it’s okay.

Please name one prominent Republican who is a racist?

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:45 pm 125. DavidL:

[quote]But Democrats get a pass for their sins because African Americans can cite one battle after another when Democrats stood with them, dating back to Harry Truman desegregating the armed forces in 1948. And even though, in the 1950s and 1960s — which served as the defining eras for the black Civil Rights Movement — Southern Democrats were among the chief antagonists, it was Democrat John F. Kennedy who first addressed the nation on the importance of recognizing the civil rights of black Americans. And it was Democrat Lyndon B. Johnson who signed the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.[end quote]
Bull!

Harry Truman’s executive order of 1948 did not desergrate the military. Units of the Navy and the Air Force were integrated prior to the order and Army and Marine Corps combate units were not intergrated until 1954 when the president was Dwight David Eisenhower.

As for the 1964 Civll Rights act, it might well have passed in the late ’50’s had it not been blocked by then Senate majority leader, Lyndon Johnson.

As for current democrat policy is racist on several couunts.

One, abortion, intended by Margaret Sanger to kill minorities.

Two, gun control isintended to keep guns out of the hands of blacks. Currently the City Council of DC is fighty the Second Amendment tooth and nail in order to preserve the district’s high murder rate.

Three, school vouchers. Blacks aupport them, democrat politicians do not.

Four, same sex marriage. Blacks oppose it. Obama supports it.

Future plans include the carbon tax and the health tax.

The future holds the carbon and health taxes to deprive blacks of their hard earned income.

I don’t expect blacks to start voting republicsn, but I am not issuing any apologies either.

Jul 1, 2009 - 6:57 pm 126. Jim Baker:

Navarette is a racist. I am sick of his obsession with races, thinking himself as a hispanic, a part of some downtrodden race. Racial politics has to stop if any of us want to regian any freedom. This is why the Dems and their enablers in the media, including Navarette, continue to harp on race. I hate Barack Obama, but it has nothing to do with his being 1/2 African from Kenya. As long as he hates the things that have made our country great, I will hate him as our president. And it looks like THAT will not change any time soon. I want that SOB out of the White House as soon as possible. Navarette can call that racism until the carbon taxed cows come home and it shouldn’t matter to anyone at all. PJM, get rid of this fraud.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:28 pm 127. Robert O. Lopez:

Ruben,

PLEASE STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF. I USED TO LOVE YOUR COLUMNS. BUT NOW YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE AN IDIOT! NO, I’M NOT A BIGOT. I JUST RECOGNIZE FLUFFY MINDLESS STUPID PIECES OF WRITING WHEN I SEE THEM.

YOU ARE A TREMENDOUSLY TALENTED WRITER — STOP BEING “A WRITER OF COLOR” AND APPLY YOURSELF TO A HIGHER PURPOSE.

from,
a fellow Latino with a name starting with R

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:39 pm 128. Delia:

“816075 3×157 1n 3v3|2y 37Hn1C17y”

1337 translation: Bigots exist in every ethnicity.

It’s a fact of life that people are protective of their ethnic make-up. Namely because they don’t want to be wiped off the face of the earth and ‘blended’ out of existence.

Rather than being ‘color-blind’, I think we need to be ‘color-minded’ and embrace our ‘differences’ rather than trying to ‘white-wash’ them.

Black, brown, yellow, red people are beautiful and so are ‘white’ people. Celebrating our ‘beauty’ is not a bad thing is it?????

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:42 pm 129. sheesh:

122 steveg AKA bitter and angry victim dude . . . “I am a member of the race and gender that Robert Reich (Obama Advisor) admitted in a hearing, will not be receiving any contracts from stimulus funds/”

I know what you’re saying. And I know what you say he said, but that’s not what he said. Here’s what he said.

”I am concerned, as I’m sure many of you are, that these jobs not simply go to high-skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers…I have nothing against white male construction workers, I’m just saying there are other people who have needs as well.”

You gotta quit letting other people do your thinking for you. Start here – Limbaugh and Hannity are idiots.

Jul 1, 2009 - 8:55 pm 130. steveg:

“I’m afraid there is a certain class of race problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because so long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public”. – Booker T. Washington -………… Do the names Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright come to mind? All prominent Democrats.

Jul 2, 2009 - 6:02 am 131. Paul -Indiana:

Mr. Navarette, are you still glad that you voted for Obama?

Jul 2, 2009 - 8:08 am 132. Joe Bison:

What is the difference between an adult and
a child? One is held accountable for what
they say and do while the other isn’t.

When we hear something stupid said by a
White we rightfully condemn it. Sexist,
racist, anti-semitic, anti-gay and violent
speech and behavior gets a free pass when
committed by Blacks. An excuse of being
a victim forgives all.

Treating adults as children who are not
responsible for their actions and not
knowing right from wrong is true racism
pure and simple. This is what the Democrat
party is about.

Jul 2, 2009 - 8:26 am 133. Strawman:

Let’s be honest with ourselves. The Republican Party is not now and never has been known to favor the minorities.

Now you’re catching on. That’s a feature, not a bug.

Jul 2, 2009 - 9:35 am 134. Delia:

133. Strawman:

“Let’s be honest with ourselves. The Republican Party is not now and never has been known to favor the minorities.

Now you’re catching on. That’s a feature, not a bug.”

Ouch.

Jul 2, 2009 - 11:33 am 135. Blackwell:

One more thing Mr. Navarette: Criticizing the GOP for the episodic comments from a few minor players is unfair and inaccurate. Like judging the entire US based on the early comments of George Wallace.

The better question ought to be why the rather large and permanent collection of socialists, welfare-voters, aging communists, code-pink misfits and others in the Democratic party are allowed to regularly characterize republicans as “warmongers,” “racists,” and “facists,” without any reproach at all.

Moreover, the hypersensitivity of you and others like you constricts honest debate. People are tarred as racists for even questioning the adverse impact of welfare and affirmative action on the black community. Daniel Moniyhan’s recognition of that in 1965 nearly ruined his career as people accussed him of racism, when he was in fact one of the few to seriously ask what was best as opposed to what was feel good politics. Patting the Democratic party on the back for enabling a life of helplessness is not a good thing to do.

The GOP for all its many faults, still points to merit, enterprise, diligence and hard work, not welfare, handouts, endless insistence on living life as a victim.

Jul 2, 2009 - 12:50 pm 136. Marzipan:

Perhaps a history lesson is in order here – the Republican party did have overwhelming support among the African-American community until the 1930s when Roosevelt when they started to benefit from many of Roosevelt’s New Deal initiatives (like rural electrification, etc) and when he signed anti-lynching legislation. This was the beginning of a trend with Democratic support on civil rights and other anti-poverty legislation in the 50’s and 60’s secured the deal.

It is very true that the southern wing of the Democratic party was segregationist in the 60s(and frankly racist) and the many people who posted pointing this out are absolutely correct. That said – it was exactly these disaffected Democrats the Republican party recruited with it’s “southern strategy” in the 70s and 80s. There support helped the Republican party get a lock on most of the south of the last twenty years or so. But IMHO race is becoming less and less of an issue in the south, and the weakening of race as a political issue over the last several years has helped the Democrats resurface and become more competitive in the south. Case in point – Obama carried VA & NC in 2008, something that would have been next to impossible simply because of the color of his skin in the 70s and 80s.

Does this mean that the GOP is a racist organization despite the few select examples offered by Mr Navarette? No…clearly not. Does it have a legacy to overcome based on the parties political strategies in the later part of the 20th century? I think so. Are they insurmountable problems? No – but the party needs a real, multi-year strategy to do so.

Jul 2, 2009 - 2:51 pm 137. gcblues:

mgoose, i do not live on this. so i am not into a your silly tit for tats. you deserve no apology. you have ascribed many things to me i never said. kinda sad on your part.

your responses follow no logic, you seem to have no idea what debate is. i am fine with you ignoring me. i do not need your uneducated rants. go bait someone else. absolutely silly. i respond to what you say, you ascribe to me things i did not say. pathetic. as a former intercollegiate debater and long time judge you would not last a round.
the only thing you say that is clear is your name calling, which is rightfully ignored.

Jul 2, 2009 - 3:41 pm 138. john m e:

please people….ignore this pap and it will be displaced by argument better suited to a site like this..

Jul 2, 2009 - 4:53 pm 139. Kay:

People have to look beyond the misinformation of the media and indoctrination of the children in public schools.

I still can not believe humans divide themselves into subgroups based on the level of pigmentation of the outer layers of one’s skin. It is the liberals, the statists who divide into subgroups. They teach children that there is inequality and all it’s multi-layered agendas to divide and segregate by ones pigmentation levels. The Democratic party was/is the party of slavery, of hate, of divisiveness. Martin Luther Kings vision was that of a conservative. That are are equal without exceptions, rules, favoritism, or reparations. Live by the rule of law. It is the race-pimps, such as Sharpton or Jackson that are racists.

We have now come full circle where our nation is loaded with the indoctrinated that have grown to adulthood completely unbeknown to themselves. They are now raising their children as they see the world. They are also raised to never question nor focus long enough to formulate an opinion. Many in metropolitan areas have aligned themselves with the party of slavery, while they believe the exact opposite to be true. They believe that one is to be judged on their race, because they were told to.

The vast majority of self-proclaimed Democrats are actually conservatives, they just don’t understand why. You could make an argument that those with liberal views, yet thinking that they are supporting free speech, equal rights, environmental concerns, or whatever special interest religion they follow, are actually mentally deficient. And thinking that conservatism has anything to do some sort of Christian white racist gun loving group of loons are completely indoctrinated, exactly as planned.

Our founding fathers were classic liberals, meaning they were against the ruling class at the time. Once the United States was established with its Constitution, they became conservatives. Conservation of the Constitution of the United States of America and for all that which it stands. Liberals now are socialists/statists/Marxist, take your pick. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Marx, Chavez, Mao, Castro, Ahmadinejad, are LIBERALS. Just as Obama is a liberal. His rise to power is from a virtually identical playbook to that of Hitler’s, his policies are that of a typical South American dictator. We’ve had 6 months of a President/Congress that has yet to do one thing within the bounds of the Constitution. Not one thing passed this year is even legal.

The Democratic party has moved so far to the left they can be considered the Socialist party. Unfortunately, the GOP is roughly the Democratic party of the early 1960’s.

The socialist Democrat party elitists are the party of racism, are against free speech, wishes to do away with the constitution and become an elite class of untouchable rulers, are for redistribution of wealth without regard for those who earn it, and wish to destroy the free economy. When they get more then 50% of the population to become reliant on government without having to contribute to it, the transformation will be complete. They will become unstoppable. All who contribute will become enslaved to those that do not. And half of our nation walks around actually feeling good about voting their own freedoms away, thinking they are free-thinking humans where in fact they are the autonomous robots living in a world of fear, of racism, and jealousy of the successful who have what they wish they had-just as they have been raised and bred to be.

If you know someone who claims to be a Democrat that is not part of the upper elitist political class, you know someone who has a severe mental disorder.

Jul 2, 2009 - 8:47 pm 140. Kay:

The ‘hippie’ generation that was against government control is now obsessed with it controlling their lives. Their children have be raised to believe this. If the children do not respond to this sort of control and dependence, they will medicated into submission. Those that rule now do not believe what you must do applies to them. They wish you to be forced to their control in public school with their agendas programed into the curriculum. Their children do not go to these schools. They wish you to be forced to have your health care divvied out to their subjects as they see fit, how they see fit, yet have no intention of submitting themselves to the same system. They wish to control your pay, what you drive, how you travel, what sort of home you live in, how much land you can own and how you can own it, how you color determines your value in the workplace or at home, how much you eat and where it comes from, and yet they will not have to follow any of these rules themselves. The next attempt to control the vote will be coming shortly with a corrupt census. It would be funny if it were a joke, but it is a fact. Destroy the economy, build an unbeatable base of voters, and rule the other 49% of the nation as slaves to the government.

Jul 2, 2009 - 9:00 pm 141. Kay:

As for the political stigma for the original posters racist ‘white party’ idiocy, take this to heart.

In 1868, Horatio Seymour, the Democratic Presidental candidate’s OFFICIAL campaign slogan was “This is a White Man’s Government!”.

Ulysses S. Grant was the Republican candidate(and obviously, the winner), with “Let There Be Peace”. Sometimes it is misquoted as “Vote as You Shot”, which was a secondary slogan during the primaries.

Jul 2, 2009 - 9:09 pm 142. Torqued Marine (USMC):

133. Strawman:

“Let’s be honest with ourselves. The Republican Party is not now and never has been known to favor the minorities.”

Take a step back here. Don’t forget, it was the Republicans that forced Civil rights down LBJ’s throat, he did not really want to do it.

It is and always has been the Dims who have pulled the race card out at the first sign of possible failure, not the Republicans or for that matter any true Conservatives.

Semper Fi.

Jul 2, 2009 - 10:49 pm 143. Strawman:

142, that was me quoting somebody else. I was simply pointing out that not “favoring” is the idea.

Jul 3, 2009 - 7:45 am 144. Joef:

Naverette is probably at least partly right. There is bigotry among both Democrats and Republicans, careless comments made occasionally by lots of people. There is strong and blatant reverse racism among Blacks toward Whites and Hispanics, as well.

Anyway, it’s Hispanics that I think are natural Republicans, or should be. Especially those who have the individual drive to uproot and migrate to the U.S. They are not always running away. They are often aspiring, living out their dreams, and once here are often driven toward enterprise. Many times, most times, family, honor, a powerful work ethic, and strong values imbue their lives. These, I think, are American-like and fit with Republican traditions.

Are Republicans open to these folks? I simply pose the question. Look at this: Hispanics are the fastest-growing minority, and should or might be natural conservatives, and Republicans. I’ve had the feeling for quite a while that the GOP should genuinely not patronize but openly court Hispanics. Actually be for them, ie, anyone who is willing to follow legal methods of immigration, learn the language, and be upstanding citizens. Hell, go out and actively help them accomplish these things if need be. It should be an ongoing Republican initiative. I believe the Bushes have been attempting to show us this course, but many have not wanted to listen. They should, we should, and soon!

Jul 3, 2009 - 8:30 am 145. Don Rhudy:

Racism and bigotry will be with us always, as long as we remain human. Ruben Navarrette himself is a case in point. However, if we look at bigotry among the two major political parties, it is very hard to make the case that Republicans are more bigoted than Democrats. Conservatives who sadly still must vote with Republicans are likely the least bigoted because their ideology—the worth and value of the individual over the group—is without bigotry. As parties, Democrats don’t believe that at all, and many Republicans don’t either.

Jul 3, 2009 - 12:12 pm 146. Blackwater:

Oh, please. The Democraps are just as guilty – if not more so – of having racism gaffes. They just don’t get pounced on it like Republicans do for calling some lefty stalker from India a “makaka”. Whatever the hell that means. The fact of the matter is our popular culture is controlled by the left. And they’ve burned this stereotype into virtually every single American that the Republican Party is just a front for the KKK and retarded rednecks. I know because I used to think exactly that until I was about 19 and became a Republican. A gaffe now and then from some no-name college age staffer of a Republican congressmen like in an email where Obama is poked fun at in a racially charged cartoon isn’t something we should be too worried about. Focus on creating good policies and articulating them to as many people as possible and steadily chip away at the lefts control of our popular culture rather than going on the defensive over bullcrap stereotypes and race baiting. If we don’t we’ll just be playing right into the lefts hands.

Jul 3, 2009 - 4:31 pm 147. beowolfe:

Even after someone explained it to you, the vast number who’ve posted here still don’t get it. That’s sad. But it’s what I’ve come to expect from Repugs. You want people to support you while at the same time you make disparaging remarks about them. It won’t work folks. Until you get it, you’ll probably stay in this political wilderness.

Jul 14, 2009 - 3:17 pm 148. maximumbob:

It is so clear from a majority of the comments that the GOP just doesn’t get it. To paraphrase Henry Clay, they would rather be right (as in far right) than president.
They either don’t know or don’t care that the Republican party is increasingly one of aging white men who don’t know or don’t care that in a few decades, they will be the minority in this country. If they don’t find ways to attract African-American and Latino voters, their party will eventually vanish like the Whigs

Jul 20, 2009 - 8:37 am 149. HawkWatcher:

Sorry, the Republican party is not going to vanish. If I remember right, only 6 or 7% difference in the last presidential election. The GOP is gaining those votes automatically as time goes by. By solidly opposing harmful radical Democrat policy now, the GOP political future is guaranteed. Conservatism is on the rise, and the GOP is accentuating their core values accordingly.

No GOP pandering is needed or wanted…we are all equal in this country and we should be addressed as such.

Aug 1, 2009 - 2:06 pm

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