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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>44. Marc Malone:

&quot;deguello - Am I starting to really get along with the opposition? 3rd in 3 days.&quot;

When people are honest (truthful), you can&#039;t refute the facts . . .  Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>44. Marc Malone:</p>
<p>&#8220;deguello &#8211; Am I starting to really get along with the opposition? 3rd in 3 days.&#8221;</p>
<p>When people are honest (truthful), you can&#8217;t refute the facts . . .  Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40. urbanleftbehind:

&quot;The kicker - she was wearing a T-shirt that said K G B!!!!&quot;

That was funny!!  :D

Yes, you are right.  I&#039;ve seen Ukranians in my area having a hard time communicating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40. urbanleftbehind:</p>
<p>&#8220;The kicker &#8211; she was wearing a T-shirt that said K G B!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>That was funny!!  <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, you are right.  I&#8217;ve seen Ukranians in my area having a hard time communicating.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deguello - Chica (small g, you&#039;re the misses, right?), correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but aren&#039;t you one of those with whom I&#039;ve been butting heads?  Am I starting to really get along with the opposition? 3rd in 3 days.

  I better go see Ann Coulter and get my head examined.  :D

  Thanks for the acknowledgment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deguello &#8211; Chica (small g, you&#8217;re the misses, right?), correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but aren&#8217;t you one of those with whom I&#8217;ve been butting heads?  Am I starting to really get along with the opposition? 3rd in 3 days.</p>
<p>  I better go see Ann Coulter and get my head examined.  <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>  Thanks for the acknowledgment.</p>
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		<title>By: Roark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should stick to over-the-top Hollywood movies and leave the role of leadership to those men who CAN lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should stick to over-the-top Hollywood movies and leave the role of leadership to those men who CAN lead.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people don’t understand is why some of us are so against the current Republican ticket, but we have an obligation to fight against history of ever being repeated again. Many of us out here are not fighting for the Democratic campaign but are fighting against an ideology.

1) An ideology that completely mirrors the ideology of this past 8 years.
2) An ideology that recognizes the few while completely disregarding the masses.
3) An ideology that believes in taking military action against Iraq, an incident that is completely unrelated to 9/11, without solidifying our claims beforehand. In the present, we have found no evidence of weapons of mass destructions or a tie to Osama Bin Laden. The devastation of this war has cost us over 4,000 of our brave troops and counting, over 1/2 trillion dollars of taxpayer’s money and counting, and over 1 million Iraqi lives unrelated to the terrorists or insurgency.

Cost of the Iraq War — http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

4) An ideology that still believes that the Iraq War is the right war on terrorism when the Afghanistan War should had been the right war on terrorism, where Osama Bin Laden actually was until he slipped into the mountains and into Pakistan’s territory now. The Iraq War also diverted our attention away from the Afghanistan War. We now have extended our resources in two separate places and have heightened our risk to our troops, our expenses, and creating another dilemma that will take quite some time to finalize. The Iraq War will not go away overnight and it is now our obligation to see it all the way through for God knows how many more years. This has also been the most unpopular war in the eyes of the world’s communities.
5) An ideology that believes that we are at our safest state since 9/11, when a recent terrorist plot was still trying to enter Great Britain’s airports with liquid explosives heading directly to us, but thankfully the plot was foiled. While in Afghanistan, the terrorists are regrouping and strengthening and we have recently suffered another high casualty to our troops yet again within this past month. We currently have the least amount of alliances in the world’s communities due to this unpopular Iraq War. True national securities are the ties that bind us to our world’s communities and the ties that bind them to us.
6) An ideology that vetted one of the most inexperience VP ticket in history, from foreign policies to national defense. If God forbids that anything happens to this President if elected and is stricken with illness, this VP will be running the country. For a more compelling look at Sarah Palin’s VP readiness, please look at these links below —

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/09/30/palin_gaffes/

7) An ideology that believes in “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” while we are facing the highest mortgage foreclosure crisis, high unemployment rate, and the largest collapse of our financial infrastructures since The Great Depression of 1929.

This is an ideology that many of us in America are against. Whether this ideology is in the Republican or Democratic ticket is not the main issue but the fact is that America does not want to fall into another 4 more years of devastation. We cannot afford this anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people don’t understand is why some of us are so against the current Republican ticket, but we have an obligation to fight against history of ever being repeated again. Many of us out here are not fighting for the Democratic campaign but are fighting against an ideology.</p>
<p>1) An ideology that completely mirrors the ideology of this past 8 years.<br />
2) An ideology that recognizes the few while completely disregarding the masses.<br />
3) An ideology that believes in taking military action against Iraq, an incident that is completely unrelated to 9/11, without solidifying our claims beforehand. In the present, we have found no evidence of weapons of mass destructions or a tie to Osama Bin Laden. The devastation of this war has cost us over 4,000 of our brave troops and counting, over 1/2 trillion dollars of taxpayer’s money and counting, and over 1 million Iraqi lives unrelated to the terrorists or insurgency.</p>
<p>Cost of the Iraq War — <a href="http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home</a></p>
<p>4) An ideology that still believes that the Iraq War is the right war on terrorism when the Afghanistan War should had been the right war on terrorism, where Osama Bin Laden actually was until he slipped into the mountains and into Pakistan’s territory now. The Iraq War also diverted our attention away from the Afghanistan War. We now have extended our resources in two separate places and have heightened our risk to our troops, our expenses, and creating another dilemma that will take quite some time to finalize. The Iraq War will not go away overnight and it is now our obligation to see it all the way through for God knows how many more years. This has also been the most unpopular war in the eyes of the world’s communities.<br />
5) An ideology that believes that we are at our safest state since 9/11, when a recent terrorist plot was still trying to enter Great Britain’s airports with liquid explosives heading directly to us, but thankfully the plot was foiled. While in Afghanistan, the terrorists are regrouping and strengthening and we have recently suffered another high casualty to our troops yet again within this past month. We currently have the least amount of alliances in the world’s communities due to this unpopular Iraq War. True national securities are the ties that bind us to our world’s communities and the ties that bind them to us.<br />
6) An ideology that vetted one of the most inexperience VP ticket in history, from foreign policies to national defense. If God forbids that anything happens to this President if elected and is stricken with illness, this VP will be running the country. For a more compelling look at Sarah Palin’s VP readiness, please look at these links below —</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/09/30/palin_gaffes/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/09/30/palin_gaffes/</a></p>
<p>7) An ideology that believes in “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” while we are facing the highest mortgage foreclosure crisis, high unemployment rate, and the largest collapse of our financial infrastructures since The Great Depression of 1929.</p>
<p>This is an ideology that many of us in America are against. Whether this ideology is in the Republican or Democratic ticket is not the main issue but the fact is that America does not want to fall into another 4 more years of devastation. We cannot afford this anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history. 

So here is a simple fact for America -
1) During Ronald Reagan’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1981-1989, we were at our economic best in a quarter of a century. We made the right choice in these 8 years as a country.
2) During George H. W. Bush Sr.’s Presidency of 1 term, between 1989-1993, we were at our economic worst in a quarter of a century. We made a huge mistake as a country but corrected it by keeping him in office for only 1 term.
3) During Bill Clinton’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1993-2001, we were again at our economic best in a quarter of a century, even better than Reagan’s era. We made the right choice again in these 8 years as a country, despite his personal scandals.
4) Now, during George W. Bush Jr.’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 2001-this coming January 20, 2009; we have been at our economic worst in a quarter of a century, even worst than Bush Sr.’s era. We really made a huge mistake as a country on this one by not realizing that the apple really doesn’t fall very far from the tree. Yet we chose this apple again the second time around.

Now, really let this simple fact sink in America and take your time to think carefully this time around about how you want the direction of this country to go. 

We made history with Reagan. We then made a mistake with Bush Sr. but corrected history by allowing him to only serve 1 term. We then made history again with Clinton, despite his personal scandals. Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history. </p>
<p>So here is a simple fact for America -<br />
1) During Ronald Reagan’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1981-1989, we were at our economic best in a quarter of a century. We made the right choice in these 8 years as a country.<br />
2) During George H. W. Bush Sr.’s Presidency of 1 term, between 1989-1993, we were at our economic worst in a quarter of a century. We made a huge mistake as a country but corrected it by keeping him in office for only 1 term.<br />
3) During Bill Clinton’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1993-2001, we were again at our economic best in a quarter of a century, even better than Reagan’s era. We made the right choice again in these 8 years as a country, despite his personal scandals.<br />
4) Now, during George W. Bush Jr.’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 2001-this coming January 20, 2009; we have been at our economic worst in a quarter of a century, even worst than Bush Sr.’s era. We really made a huge mistake as a country on this one by not realizing that the apple really doesn’t fall very far from the tree. Yet we chose this apple again the second time around.</p>
<p>Now, really let this simple fact sink in America and take your time to think carefully this time around about how you want the direction of this country to go. </p>
<p>We made history with Reagan. We then made a mistake with Bush Sr. but corrected history by allowing him to only serve 1 term. We then made history again with Clinton, despite his personal scandals. Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: urbanleftbehind</title>
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		<dc:creator>urbanleftbehind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivo-

Even the rate of assimilation for Eastern Europeans is S L O W I N G ... Polish- and Russian- language enclaves are becoming more commonplace, at least in NE Illinois.  I just saw some Russian lady at the mall unable to respond to me in English when I asked if her kid was ever going to leave the coin-operated horse so that my kid could get a couple of turns in.  

The kicker - she was wearing a T-shirt that said           K G B!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivo-</p>
<p>Even the rate of assimilation for Eastern Europeans is S L O W I N G &#8230; Polish- and Russian- language enclaves are becoming more commonplace, at least in NE Illinois.  I just saw some Russian lady at the mall unable to respond to me in English when I asked if her kid was ever going to leave the coin-operated horse so that my kid could get a couple of turns in.  </p>
<p>The kicker &#8211; she was wearing a T-shirt that said           K G B!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a cuban-american,I have to tell you all that Malone has it exactly right;attitude,culture,class, and education matter more than language and race. Unfortunately,liberals want to continue playing up racism and victimhood, to prevent latino immigrants from self improvement,so that they can become welfare dependent, that is to say  ,democrat party-dependent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a cuban-american,I have to tell you all that Malone has it exactly right;attitude,culture,class, and education matter more than language and race. Unfortunately,liberals want to continue playing up racism and victimhood, to prevent latino immigrants from self improvement,so that they can become welfare dependent, that is to say  ,democrat party-dependent.</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
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		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>37. Marc Malone:

Yes, I&#039;ve noticed the cultural differences.  Hispanic educated immigrants don&#039;t mix with blue collar or farming immigrants.  It takes a lot of effort and intelligence to go from working class to professional class.  Lots of them are surviving and some of them are thriving.  The Latin conservatives are as right wing as you can get or worse.  The blue collars and farmers are still fighting for justice or care less about politics, except unions, of course.  Their kids assimilate faster through the school system, so it make take a generation or two.  Now, the Islamic group, that&#039;s another story . . .  The Asian group (quiet revolution) . . .  Eastern European and Russians (white blends faster) . . .  Africans, the road has been paved for them . . .  But class distinctions rule for everyone and impacts their place in the American society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>37. Marc Malone:</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve noticed the cultural differences.  Hispanic educated immigrants don&#8217;t mix with blue collar or farming immigrants.  It takes a lot of effort and intelligence to go from working class to professional class.  Lots of them are surviving and some of them are thriving.  The Latin conservatives are as right wing as you can get or worse.  The blue collars and farmers are still fighting for justice or care less about politics, except unions, of course.  Their kids assimilate faster through the school system, so it make take a generation or two.  Now, the Islamic group, that&#8217;s another story . . .  The Asian group (quiet revolution) . . .  Eastern European and Russians (white blends faster) . . .  Africans, the road has been paved for them . . .  But class distinctions rule for everyone and impacts their place in the American society.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vivo - Yes, it took time to assimilate in the past, but because the whites weren&#039;t accepting.  The immigrants wanted to assimilate, for the most part.  They came here, because they were Americans at heart already.  They were just born in another country.

  Now, it really is of little matter.  Oh sure, you still get some prejudice, but no more than what goes both ways.  (The exception, of course, is for Arabs/Muslims.  Special circumstances.)

  We still get a lot of people coming here who really want to be Americans.  Believe me when I tell you that the legals and illegals do not get along all that great unless related.  Hispanic citizens really resent the illegals who refer to the citizens as &quot;porchos&quot;, from the word for porch; left out in the cold.

  There&#039;s a gap even there between those who wish to assimilate and those who do not.  Believe when I say that prejudice is no longer about skin color, but cultural differences.

  We better be careful, or next thing you know, we&#039;ll be getting along and finding common ground.  Can&#039;t have any of that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vivo &#8211; Yes, it took time to assimilate in the past, but because the whites weren&#8217;t accepting.  The immigrants wanted to assimilate, for the most part.  They came here, because they were Americans at heart already.  They were just born in another country.</p>
<p>  Now, it really is of little matter.  Oh sure, you still get some prejudice, but no more than what goes both ways.  (The exception, of course, is for Arabs/Muslims.  Special circumstances.)</p>
<p>  We still get a lot of people coming here who really want to be Americans.  Believe me when I tell you that the legals and illegals do not get along all that great unless related.  Hispanic citizens really resent the illegals who refer to the citizens as &#8220;porchos&#8221;, from the word for porch; left out in the cold.</p>
<p>  There&#8217;s a gap even there between those who wish to assimilate and those who do not.  Believe when I say that prejudice is no longer about skin color, but cultural differences.</p>
<p>  We better be careful, or next thing you know, we&#8217;ll be getting along and finding common ground.  Can&#8217;t have any of that!</p>
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