Comments on: The Myth That McCain Wasn’t Conservative Enough

By: Southern Bread » The Mythical Center

Southern Bread » The Mythical Center — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:34:36 +0000

[...] –John Avlon [...]

By: stalin

stalin — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:31:48 +0000

pelto, I’ll bet you never get tired of quoting yourself.

By: JimCap

JimCap — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:45:51 +0000

Look, all the Republicans have to do is nominate someone like Michael Steele or Bobby Jindal and our problems are solved. You see, they can implement the same policies as Reagan or Gingrich, but because they aren’t white, no one will notice and they’ll still vote for them.

Problem solved!

You see, the Republican Party doesn’t have to change ANY of it’s policies that favor the richest 1% or that ship good jobs overseas or that pollute the environment. All they have to do is to put a non-white face on the label and people will buy it.

We all know how gullible the public is. Don’t worry. We can continue with what we’ve done for years. Just slap a new face on the old product!

That’ll work like a charm!!!

By: Chuck Pelto

Chuck Pelto — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:44:06 +0000

TO: G Alston
RE: Actually….

You see, there’s your problem right there, using a definition of “moderate” that you made up. You couldn’t be further afield. Moderates are those who know right from wrong and have opinions on some of these issues you may not agree with. — G Alston to Thomas Jackson

….I think Thomas has it pretty them [moderates] pegged. They have no REAL moral standard. They just ‘go along to get along’.

However, unlike your strawman arg about ‘vouchers’, ‘conservatives’ are not interested so much in ‘vouchers’ as getting a HONEST education. And that might be achievable by the use of ‘vouchers’.

Sakes. I sit on a city-county commission and I continually hear the local [vaunted American public education system] school board vent and polemic about the evil of ‘charter schools’. And then I hear the local university rep try to explain why so many freshmen drop out of the university during their first year.

Why? BECAUSE THEY CAN’T READ, WRITE, or do ADVANCED MATH. And WHY is THAT???!??!?!

So drop your stupid strawman and pick up a pen and write your editor about why your children can’t do squat!

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Education was to replace an empty mind with an open one. These days it seems to replace an empty mind with a vacuum. -- CBPelto]

By: G Alston

G Alston — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 18:11:51 +0000

#225 Thomas Jackson

“Moderates are people who follow the flavor of the moment. Having neither the interest nor focus to make up their minds about such ever changing issues as school vouchers, the death penalty, the second amnedment, illegal immigration, taxes, government intervention in private industry, they remain undecided.”

You see, there’s your problem right there, using a definition of “moderate” that you made up. You couldn’t be further afield. Moderates are those who know right from wrong and have opinions on some of these issues you may not agree with.

e.g. you can call me a moderate if you like. I don’t think school vouchers are the answer to the problem. I think education ought to be broken into tracks; a college education is not the answer to all problems. Some people are better off going to a trade school. College isn’t for everyone. Vouchers don’t address what I think is the underlying problem.

So if I fail to support vouchers, people like you wish to label me as not a real conservative, a RINO, a wishy washy moderate with no moral compass, and so on.

Get a clue.

By: elinor stickney

elinor stickney — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:23:00 +0000

McCain could never be conservative enough for the far right wing of the Republican party. I am not far right and I voted for McCain but I honestly never liked the man. I thought he was a real wimp in the debates.

By: liberty4usa

liberty4usa — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:19:50 +0000

Conservative principles work and win, we have tried the centrist baloney!

By: Dougal

Dougal — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:51:38 +0000

Do the milk drinking oreo dipping corner sitting please include me wanna be loved “moderates” still not get it. The Liberals love you because you are like their favorite pet in the zoo. They feed you and show enough attention to keep you alive, but you never ever get let out or have any free will of your own. Sorry for not sugar coating the way you “centrists” are really seen, however, like my children it’s time for reality to set in for the long haul. I mean, at least my kids have an excuse, well, their kids. Like children, those who are the recipients of your “understanding and caring” policies rather than some discipline and personal responsibility will throw a tantrum every time the umbilical cord is threatened. Reagan was not infallable and he made some mistakes, but he was running in the right direction. (excuse the cheesy unintended pun at the end)

By: Ipsa

Ipsa — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:01:34 +0000

John McCain was an incompetent campaigner who was unable to explain that the genesis of our current economic problems pointed more at the Democrats than the GOP. He has also tied himself to global warming and was unable to speak convincingly about what an energy policy overhaul would look like.

By: Dac

Dac — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:39:00 +0000

John McCain lost because he had no “center of gravity”. He had no coherent vision for America. He threw out a sentence here and a sentence there about jobs, energy, the economy, the environment, etc. Had he ever thought it all out and formed an overarching vision, so that the relationship of one issue to another were clear, the outcome of the election would have been different. It had nothing to do with “too much conservatism.” If the GOP wants to change it’s platform and leave conservatives behind, good luck MAKING UP the votes elsewhere…to say nothing of finding the extra votes you need to win an election.