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		<title>By: Woloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know about Dresden, but an apology to Nagasaki would be nice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know about Dresden, but an apology to Nagasaki would be nice</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Obama has actually been in Dresden and has held his speeches, I&#039;m eagerly awaiting your follow-up article on the matter. I expect it to be something along the lines of: &quot;I was wrong on all accounts. I&#039;m sorry for wrongly accusing and smearing the President...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Obama has actually been in Dresden and has held his speeches, I&#8217;m eagerly awaiting your follow-up article on the matter. I expect it to be something along the lines of: &#8220;I was wrong on all accounts. I&#8217;m sorry for wrongly accusing and smearing the President&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe Obama will be his own downfall. pride always goes before a fall. the german people blindly followed his promise to bring their country back from total bankruptcy. they needed an answer to their failed country and he took advantage of their fear. he took control of the banks and industry and banned guns, is this starting to sound familiar. he promised CHANGE and man did he ever give it to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe Obama will be his own downfall. pride always goes before a fall. the german people blindly followed his promise to bring their country back from total bankruptcy. they needed an answer to their failed country and he took advantage of their fear. he took control of the banks and industry and banned guns, is this starting to sound familiar. he promised CHANGE and man did he ever give it to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Cluck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Cluck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diego, no it&#039;s war. War is dirty, ugly and terrifying. After all is said and done the reports are written and the investigations are done by the victor. If Obama apologizes he will be giving fuel to the fire in this discussion and belittling the real crime (the murders in the camps) to apologize to the criminals. I know the argument that it was the Nazis who did all this, but it was the German people who empowered them to do it. Had the German people been so innocent they would have risen up after Krystalnacht. The war was brought terribly home to the German people in Dresden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diego, no it&#8217;s war. War is dirty, ugly and terrifying. After all is said and done the reports are written and the investigations are done by the victor. If Obama apologizes he will be giving fuel to the fire in this discussion and belittling the real crime (the murders in the camps) to apologize to the criminals. I know the argument that it was the Nazis who did all this, but it was the German people who empowered them to do it. Had the German people been so innocent they would have risen up after Krystalnacht. The war was brought terribly home to the German people in Dresden.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s remember also that the bombing of Dresden was consistent with the Sherman Doctrine of all out war.  It was accepted at the time that armies should not be unnecessarily hampered by civilian causalities though they should be avoided if possible.  Also, there would have been some degree of revenge sought for the horrible bombings of London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s remember also that the bombing of Dresden was consistent with the Sherman Doctrine of all out war.  It was accepted at the time that armies should not be unnecessarily hampered by civilian causalities though they should be avoided if possible.  Also, there would have been some degree of revenge sought for the horrible bombings of London.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 01:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama apologizing for actions by the Allies during WWII is like us apologizing for criticizing his apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama apologizing for actions by the Allies during WWII is like us apologizing for criticizing his apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Donny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 20:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,the German people were certainly quilty as they followed the designs of an inexperienced narcicistic self-worshiping charismatic leader. Dwight Eisenhower did the right thing when he forced the   residents of  townsto the death camps to come in and take part in the cleanup. It makes me wonder what horrers await us as we seem to tread down thesame road with our own modern stereotype leader. A radical much as Hitler was. What will the world be like after even more terror, conflict, poverty and suffering at the hands of the social experimenters who want to do it all over again to see if they can make it work. Will the 21 be a century even worse than the 20th? Was a 100 million deaths and the suffering of billions not enough? &quot;When will they ever learn?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,the German people were certainly quilty as they followed the designs of an inexperienced narcicistic self-worshiping charismatic leader. Dwight Eisenhower did the right thing when he forced the   residents of  townsto the death camps to come in and take part in the cleanup. It makes me wonder what horrers await us as we seem to tread down thesame road with our own modern stereotype leader. A radical much as Hitler was. What will the world be like after even more terror, conflict, poverty and suffering at the hands of the social experimenters who want to do it all over again to see if they can make it work. Will the 21 be a century even worse than the 20th? Was a 100 million deaths and the suffering of billions not enough? &#8220;When will they ever learn?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stratomunchkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stratomunchkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 12:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National Socialism was, ideologically, a mix between the Italian corporatist fascism and the stalinist system in Russia. It had highly regulated markets, and instead of direct state control often did not have to assert its control over Germany&#039;s heavy industries because their strategic interests correlated with the industry&#039;s business interests. The &quot;socialist&quot; aspects of National Socialism were more of an indirect approach, resulting from a social and economic experiment whose goal was the formation of a closer &quot;Volksgemeinschaft&quot; and an independence from the world markets to create the foundations for a largely self-sufficient war economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National Socialism was, ideologically, a mix between the Italian corporatist fascism and the stalinist system in Russia. It had highly regulated markets, and instead of direct state control often did not have to assert its control over Germany&#8217;s heavy industries because their strategic interests correlated with the industry&#8217;s business interests. The &#8220;socialist&#8221; aspects of National Socialism were more of an indirect approach, resulting from a social and economic experiment whose goal was the formation of a closer &#8220;Volksgemeinschaft&#8221; and an independence from the world markets to create the foundations for a largely self-sufficient war economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 23:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#137 The Editrix

Anyone whose reply to historical fact on a political forum consists of sentences like this:
&lt;b&gt;“Balah blah blah yabber yabber yack yack plogh plough rabbit rabbit blah yabber yack yack…!”&lt;/b&gt; or calling other posters as &lt;b&gt;idiot&lt;/b&gt; for their opinion should crawl back to Erich Honecker ass and join the Der Schwarze Block or the Antifa goons. 
You deserve nothing more than ridicule and contempt.
You arrogant Übermensch mannerism belongs to your favorite beer-hall: hopefully the Türks will teach you few things you will always remember in your coming future.
Besides, I am European.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#137 The Editrix</p>
<p>Anyone whose reply to historical fact on a political forum consists of sentences like this:<br />
<b>“Balah blah blah yabber yabber yack yack plogh plough rabbit rabbit blah yabber yack yack…!”</b> or calling other posters as <b>idiot</b> for their opinion should crawl back to Erich Honecker ass and join the Der Schwarze Block or the Antifa goons.<br />
You deserve nothing more than ridicule and contempt.<br />
You arrogant Übermensch mannerism belongs to your favorite beer-hall: hopefully the Türks will teach you few things you will always remember in your coming future.<br />
Besides, I am European.</p>
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		<title>By: The Editrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Editrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 22:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;German National Socialism was a Leftist ideology

Who Said This?

“Balah blah blah yabber yabber yack yack plogh plough rabbit rabbit blah yabber yack yack...!”
A quote from?
Adolf Hitler in his May Day Speech, Berlin, 1 May 1927
(quoted by John Toland in his book Adolf Hitler, 1976, p. 306.&quot;

Yeah right. Nazism was really leftism because... Bubba Adolf said so. Since when is Adolf Hitler a reliable witness for ANYTHING?

While there were collectivist elements in the Nazi ideology, a kind of &quot;egalitarian&quot; view of all &quot;racially pure&quot; Germans, the core, the glorification of the &quot;Aryan&quot; race, has nothing whatsoever to do with any leftist ideology. 

I don&#039;t know why you are spouting this mantra. Should you feel, as a conservative, uncomfortable with the thought of, as Lawrence Auster put it, a &quot;continuum between traditional, moral racialism, consisting of the normal and legitimate desire of a people to preserve and carry on its existence, and the fascistic and demonic racialism of Nazism&quot; it doesn&#039;t make sense trying to escape that predicament by stating quasi ex cathedra that Nazism is, deep down, really, at the end of the day, leftism, because it isn&#039;t.

Sorry, you&#039;ll have to look for something better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;German National Socialism was a Leftist ideology</p>
<p>Who Said This?</p>
<p>“Balah blah blah yabber yabber yack yack plogh plough rabbit rabbit blah yabber yack yack&#8230;!”<br />
A quote from?<br />
Adolf Hitler in his May Day Speech, Berlin, 1 May 1927<br />
(quoted by John Toland in his book Adolf Hitler, 1976, p. 306.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah right. Nazism was really leftism because&#8230; Bubba Adolf said so. Since when is Adolf Hitler a reliable witness for ANYTHING?</p>
<p>While there were collectivist elements in the Nazi ideology, a kind of &#8220;egalitarian&#8221; view of all &#8220;racially pure&#8221; Germans, the core, the glorification of the &#8220;Aryan&#8221; race, has nothing whatsoever to do with any leftist ideology. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you are spouting this mantra. Should you feel, as a conservative, uncomfortable with the thought of, as Lawrence Auster put it, a &#8220;continuum between traditional, moral racialism, consisting of the normal and legitimate desire of a people to preserve and carry on its existence, and the fascistic and demonic racialism of Nazism&#8221; it doesn&#8217;t make sense trying to escape that predicament by stating quasi ex cathedra that Nazism is, deep down, really, at the end of the day, leftism, because it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Sorry, you&#8217;ll have to look for something better than that.</p>
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