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		<title>By: BizzyBlog &#187; Latest Pajamas Media Column (&#8217;The POR [Pelosi-Obama-Reid] Economy: Very Poor) Is Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>BizzyBlog &#187; Latest Pajamas Media Column (&#8217;The POR [Pelosi-Obama-Reid] Economy: Very Poor) Is Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 15:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Son</title>
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		<dc:creator>Son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 03:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and getting poorer every day, because the only way this is capitalism is if you spell it S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (for corporations). You can read that as, &quot;crony capitalism&quot; is you want.

What we have is a corrupt corporate state, run by corrupt companies who are merely using our Bailout tax dollars to pay for executive bonuses, junkets, and to buy each other out -- while throwing scraps to the poor surfs getting stuck with the bill. It&#039;s got to stop--and that means getting rid of those who voted &quot;yes.&quot;

It&#039;s time to just start over. Throw them all out, Dems and Republicans alike. There isn&#039;t an ounce of difference between them anymore anyway. Could the Libertarians or Greens really do any worse than this?

We can start by voting &quot;no&quot; against incumbants who voted &quot;yes&quot; for the Bailout. Don&#039;t know who they are? Check out Constituent Response&#039;s Bailout Vote Map at constituentresponse.com .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and getting poorer every day, because the only way this is capitalism is if you spell it S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (for corporations). You can read that as, &#8220;crony capitalism&#8221; is you want.</p>
<p>What we have is a corrupt corporate state, run by corrupt companies who are merely using our Bailout tax dollars to pay for executive bonuses, junkets, and to buy each other out &#8212; while throwing scraps to the poor surfs getting stuck with the bill. It&#8217;s got to stop&#8211;and that means getting rid of those who voted &#8220;yes.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to just start over. Throw them all out, Dems and Republicans alike. There isn&#8217;t an ounce of difference between them anymore anyway. Could the Libertarians or Greens really do any worse than this?</p>
<p>We can start by voting &#8220;no&#8221; against incumbants who voted &#8220;yes&#8221; for the Bailout. Don&#8217;t know who they are? Check out Constituent Response&#8217;s Bailout Vote Map at constituentresponse.com .</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama is a 20 year follower of the Marxist Black Liberation ideology of Jeremiah Wright&#039;s Trinity church.
THE PERFECT STORM FOR A DEPRESSION …
A far left Media …
A far left President …
A far left Congress …
A far left Senate …
A far left Supreme Court …
eliminates all the checks and
balances that our democracy is based upon.
A vote for Obama is a vote for voter fraud,
a corrupt media, and the road to Socialism.
God Help Us !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama is a 20 year follower of the Marxist Black Liberation ideology of Jeremiah Wright&#8217;s Trinity church.<br />
THE PERFECT STORM FOR A DEPRESSION …<br />
A far left Media …<br />
A far left President …<br />
A far left Congress …<br />
A far left Senate …<br />
A far left Supreme Court …<br />
eliminates all the checks and<br />
balances that our democracy is based upon.<br />
A vote for Obama is a vote for voter fraud,<br />
a corrupt media, and the road to Socialism.<br />
God Help Us !!</p>
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		<title>By: Someone75</title>
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		<dc:creator>Someone75</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Squid:

I get hammered all the time with baseless attacks. If I&#039;m condescending, it&#039;s merely to respond in-kind to the treatment I receive here. Besides - Momof3 exposed her astonishing ignorance and I couldn&#039;t pass up the opportunity to point that out. Global warming is not a matter of &quot;opinion.&quot;

As to your flimsy argument that just because somethings were incorrectly understood as &quot;science&quot;, nothing known as &quot;science&quot; can be absolutely true, try this: Remember last year when a bunch of people thought global warming was a myth? Wow did they look dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Squid:</p>
<p>I get hammered all the time with baseless attacks. If I&#8217;m condescending, it&#8217;s merely to respond in-kind to the treatment I receive here. Besides &#8211; Momof3 exposed her astonishing ignorance and I couldn&#8217;t pass up the opportunity to point that out. Global warming is not a matter of &#8220;opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to your flimsy argument that just because somethings were incorrectly understood as &#8220;science&#8221;, nothing known as &#8220;science&#8221; can be absolutely true, try this: Remember last year when a bunch of people thought global warming was a myth? Wow did they look dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I would like to know is, where do people go
to get reparations from Wall Street and Washington?  After all, Wall Street is complicit
in the mess by valuing its Maserati&#039;s more than its clients, and Washington is complicit in misrepresenting rickety financial securities as well as threatening litigation against banks who do not dole out loans to bad credit risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I would like to know is, where do people go<br />
to get reparations from Wall Street and Washington?  After all, Wall Street is complicit<br />
in the mess by valuing its Maserati&#8217;s more than its clients, and Washington is complicit in misrepresenting rickety financial securities as well as threatening litigation against banks who do not dole out loans to bad credit risks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people don’t understand is why some of us are so against the current Republican ticket, but we have an obligation to fight against history of ever being repeated again. Many of us out here are not fighting for the Democratic campaign but are fighting against an ideology.

1) An ideology that completely mirrors the ideology of this past 8 years.
2) An ideology that recognizes the few while completely disregarding the masses.
3) An ideology that believes in taking military action against Iraq, an incident that is completely unrelated to 9/11, without solidifying our claims beforehand. In the present, we have found no evidence of weapons of mass destructions or a tie to Osama Bin Laden. The devastation of this war has cost us over 4,000 of our brave troops and counting, over 1/2 trillion dollars of taxpayer’s money and counting, and over 1 million Iraqi lives unrelated to the terrorists or insurgency.

Cost of the Iraq War — http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

4) An ideology that still believes that the Iraq War is the right war on terrorism when the Afghanistan War should had been the right war on terrorism, where Osama Bin Laden actually was until he slipped into the mountains and into Pakistan’s territory now. The Iraq War also diverted our attention away from the Afghanistan War. We now have extended our resources in two separate places and have heightened our risk to our troops, our expenses, and creating another dilemma that will take quite some time to finalize. The Iraq War will not go away overnight and it is now our obligation to see it all the way through for God knows how many more years. This has also been the most unpopular war in the eyes of the world’s communities.
5) An ideology that believes that we are at our safest state since 9/11, when a recent terrorist plot was still trying to enter Great Britain’s airports with liquid explosives heading directly to us, but thankfully the plot was foiled. While in Afghanistan, the terrorists are regrouping and strengthening and we have recently suffered another high casualty to our troops yet again within this past month. We currently have the least amount of alliances in the world’s communities due to this unpopular Iraq War. True national securities are the ties that bind us to our world’s communities and the ties that bind them to us.
6) An ideology that vetted one of the most inexperience VP ticket in history, from foreign policies to national defense. If God forbids that anything happens to this President if elected and is stricken with illness, this VP will be running the country. For a more compelling look at Sarah Palin’s VP readiness, please look at these links below —

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/09/30/palin_gaffes/

7) An ideology that believes in “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” while we are facing the highest mortgage foreclosure crisis, high unemployment rate, and the largest collapse of our financial infrastructures since The Great Depression of 1929.

This is an ideology that many of us in America are against. Whether this ideology is in the Republican or Democratic ticket is not the main issue but the fact is that America does not want to fall into another 4 more years of devastation. We cannot afford this anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people don’t understand is why some of us are so against the current Republican ticket, but we have an obligation to fight against history of ever being repeated again. Many of us out here are not fighting for the Democratic campaign but are fighting against an ideology.</p>
<p>1) An ideology that completely mirrors the ideology of this past 8 years.<br />
2) An ideology that recognizes the few while completely disregarding the masses.<br />
3) An ideology that believes in taking military action against Iraq, an incident that is completely unrelated to 9/11, without solidifying our claims beforehand. In the present, we have found no evidence of weapons of mass destructions or a tie to Osama Bin Laden. The devastation of this war has cost us over 4,000 of our brave troops and counting, over 1/2 trillion dollars of taxpayer’s money and counting, and over 1 million Iraqi lives unrelated to the terrorists or insurgency.</p>
<p>Cost of the Iraq War — <a href="http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home</a></p>
<p>4) An ideology that still believes that the Iraq War is the right war on terrorism when the Afghanistan War should had been the right war on terrorism, where Osama Bin Laden actually was until he slipped into the mountains and into Pakistan’s territory now. The Iraq War also diverted our attention away from the Afghanistan War. We now have extended our resources in two separate places and have heightened our risk to our troops, our expenses, and creating another dilemma that will take quite some time to finalize. The Iraq War will not go away overnight and it is now our obligation to see it all the way through for God knows how many more years. This has also been the most unpopular war in the eyes of the world’s communities.<br />
5) An ideology that believes that we are at our safest state since 9/11, when a recent terrorist plot was still trying to enter Great Britain’s airports with liquid explosives heading directly to us, but thankfully the plot was foiled. While in Afghanistan, the terrorists are regrouping and strengthening and we have recently suffered another high casualty to our troops yet again within this past month. We currently have the least amount of alliances in the world’s communities due to this unpopular Iraq War. True national securities are the ties that bind us to our world’s communities and the ties that bind them to us.<br />
6) An ideology that vetted one of the most inexperience VP ticket in history, from foreign policies to national defense. If God forbids that anything happens to this President if elected and is stricken with illness, this VP will be running the country. For a more compelling look at Sarah Palin’s VP readiness, please look at these links below —</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUHRv3ipLE</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/09/30/palin_gaffes/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/09/30/palin_gaffes/</a></p>
<p>7) An ideology that believes in “the fundamentals of our economy are strong” while we are facing the highest mortgage foreclosure crisis, high unemployment rate, and the largest collapse of our financial infrastructures since The Great Depression of 1929.</p>
<p>This is an ideology that many of us in America are against. Whether this ideology is in the Republican or Democratic ticket is not the main issue but the fact is that America does not want to fall into another 4 more years of devastation. We cannot afford this anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history. 

So here is a simple fact for America -
1) During Ronald Reagan’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1981-1989, we were at our economic best in a quarter of a century. We made the right choice in these 8 years as a country.
2) During George H. W. Bush Sr.’s Presidency of 1 term, between 1989-1993, we were at our economic worst in a quarter of a century. We made a huge mistake as a country but corrected it by keeping him in office for only 1 term.
3) During Bill Clinton’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1993-2001, we were again at our economic best in a quarter of a century, even better than Reagan’s era. We made the right choice again in these 8 years as a country, despite his personal scandals.
4) Now, during George W. Bush Jr.’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 2001-this coming January 20, 2009; we have been at our economic worst in a quarter of a century, even worst than Bush Sr.’s era. We really made a huge mistake as a country on this one by not realizing that the apple really doesn’t fall very far from the tree. Yet we chose this apple again the second time around.

Now, really let this simple fact sink in America and take your time to think carefully this time around about how you want the direction of this country to go. 

We made history with Reagan. We then made a mistake with Bush Sr. but corrected history by allowing him to only serve 1 term. We then made history again with Clinton, despite his personal scandals. Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history. </p>
<p>So here is a simple fact for America -<br />
1) During Ronald Reagan’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1981-1989, we were at our economic best in a quarter of a century. We made the right choice in these 8 years as a country.<br />
2) During George H. W. Bush Sr.’s Presidency of 1 term, between 1989-1993, we were at our economic worst in a quarter of a century. We made a huge mistake as a country but corrected it by keeping him in office for only 1 term.<br />
3) During Bill Clinton’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1993-2001, we were again at our economic best in a quarter of a century, even better than Reagan’s era. We made the right choice again in these 8 years as a country, despite his personal scandals.<br />
4) Now, during George W. Bush Jr.’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 2001-this coming January 20, 2009; we have been at our economic worst in a quarter of a century, even worst than Bush Sr.’s era. We really made a huge mistake as a country on this one by not realizing that the apple really doesn’t fall very far from the tree. Yet we chose this apple again the second time around.</p>
<p>Now, really let this simple fact sink in America and take your time to think carefully this time around about how you want the direction of this country to go. </p>
<p>We made history with Reagan. We then made a mistake with Bush Sr. but corrected history by allowing him to only serve 1 term. We then made history again with Clinton, despite his personal scandals. Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: John E Hargrove</title>
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		<dc:creator>John E Hargrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comments on global warming.  anything that lives produces emissions and generates heat - which adds to the planet&#039;s systems.  Natural processes inside the earth produce heat and emissions.  Solar energy provides life giving heat to our planet.  The question implied is does mankind have a right to be here?  the implication of the eco-alarmists is that we do not have a right to live if it impacts anything else.  the &quot;fact&quot; of human produced global warming seems to be one of political factions seeking to gain control or money, governments, and organizations.  Otherwise if the problem is of the nature they say it is,  why did Al Gore buy a 100 foot houseboat with several jet skis on the back with the millions he is making from his &quot;I Truth&quot; agenda?

I believe we should be good stewards and not be wasteful and there is plenty to do and change,  but promoting the idea that unless trillions are spent in the next 5 to 10 years, the planet will die???

in the last 100 years, the science consensus has been reported to be ice age, heat age, ice age, heat age, over and over again.   In 1975 the world was doomed to ice age,  in 1981,  unprecedented heat was predicted.  the heat wave of the mid 1990s foretold of the impending flooding of florida and NYC,  now the current cooling trend has been called more proof of climate change that humans are causing.

seems to be a lot of loose change that does not have a lot of meaning or relevance apart from political agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comments on global warming.  anything that lives produces emissions and generates heat &#8211; which adds to the planet&#8217;s systems.  Natural processes inside the earth produce heat and emissions.  Solar energy provides life giving heat to our planet.  The question implied is does mankind have a right to be here?  the implication of the eco-alarmists is that we do not have a right to live if it impacts anything else.  the &#8220;fact&#8221; of human produced global warming seems to be one of political factions seeking to gain control or money, governments, and organizations.  Otherwise if the problem is of the nature they say it is,  why did Al Gore buy a 100 foot houseboat with several jet skis on the back with the millions he is making from his &#8220;I Truth&#8221; agenda?</p>
<p>I believe we should be good stewards and not be wasteful and there is plenty to do and change,  but promoting the idea that unless trillions are spent in the next 5 to 10 years, the planet will die???</p>
<p>in the last 100 years, the science consensus has been reported to be ice age, heat age, ice age, heat age, over and over again.   In 1975 the world was doomed to ice age,  in 1981,  unprecedented heat was predicted.  the heat wave of the mid 1990s foretold of the impending flooding of florida and NYC,  now the current cooling trend has been called more proof of climate change that humans are causing.</p>
<p>seems to be a lot of loose change that does not have a lot of meaning or relevance apart from political agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: John E Hargrove</title>
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		<dc:creator>John E Hargrove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20. Daniel: &quot;The MSM could have video proof that Cheney is a serial rapist and dog killer and you’d still think the Bush administration craps roses. Almost EVERYONE who has left their administration has come out talking about how absolutely terrible and Stalin-like their administration is, and yet you still back it.

The great thing is that you’ll be losing all of your power in the next few weeks and I seriously doubt the American people will be hearing from you again for a long, long while. I’m sure you’ll still have Rush and the voices in your head to keep you company.&quot;

Daniel,  this is why I cannot support liberals / Democrats,  all of your posts are talking point from move on, Daily Kos, etc.  And if anyone does not agree with you,  why not curse them and call them brainless and idiots.

Your use of profanity takes away from any point you make, and lowers your ability to make a point.  Very well done,  you have made the case better than all the other posters as to why the USA will be worse off with liberals in charge.

and by the way, since you are so sure of yourself,  why not proudly place your full name on the posts,  you should get all the credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20. Daniel: &#8220;The MSM could have video proof that Cheney is a serial rapist and dog killer and you’d still think the Bush administration craps roses. Almost EVERYONE who has left their administration has come out talking about how absolutely terrible and Stalin-like their administration is, and yet you still back it.</p>
<p>The great thing is that you’ll be losing all of your power in the next few weeks and I seriously doubt the American people will be hearing from you again for a long, long while. I’m sure you’ll still have Rush and the voices in your head to keep you company.&#8221;</p>
<p>Daniel,  this is why I cannot support liberals / Democrats,  all of your posts are talking point from move on, Daily Kos, etc.  And if anyone does not agree with you,  why not curse them and call them brainless and idiots.</p>
<p>Your use of profanity takes away from any point you make, and lowers your ability to make a point.  Very well done,  you have made the case better than all the other posters as to why the USA will be worse off with liberals in charge.</p>
<p>and by the way, since you are so sure of yourself,  why not proudly place your full name on the posts,  you should get all the credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear &quot;Someone75:&quot;

Was it entirely necessary for you to insert that last sentence, &quot;It’s so simple that even you can understand it,&quot; into your reply to &quot;momof3:&quot; ??

I detected nothing more than a statement of her honest opinion. Your closing line is snide and insulting. How do you justify it from the text of her post. 

And, by the way, things such as &quot;flogeston&quot; were once accepted science as well. Perhaps you remember.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;Someone75:&#8221;</p>
<p>Was it entirely necessary for you to insert that last sentence, &#8220;It’s so simple that even you can understand it,&#8221; into your reply to &#8220;momof3:&#8221; ??</p>
<p>I detected nothing more than a statement of her honest opinion. Your closing line is snide and insulting. How do you justify it from the text of her post. </p>
<p>And, by the way, things such as &#8220;flogeston&#8221; were once accepted science as well. Perhaps you remember.</p>
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