Comments on: The Real Problem with the Republican Establishment

By: Warren Bonesteel

Warren Bonesteel — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:30:26 +0000

Main Entry:
ide·ol·o·gy
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Listen to the pronunciation of ideology
Pronunciation:
\ˌī-dē-ˈä-lə-jē, ˌi-\
Variant(s):
also ide·al·o·gy
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Listen to the pronunciation of idealogy \-ˈä-lə-jē, -ˈa-\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural ide·ol·o·gies
Etymology:
French idéologie, from idéo- ideo- + -logie -logy
Date:
1813
1: visionary theorizing2 a: a systematic body of concepts especially about human life or culture b: a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture c: the integrated assertions, theories and aims that constitute a sociopolitical program
— ide·ol·o·gist
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Whether left, right or center, when it is no longer about your own ideology …is when it starts to be about freedom.

By: Oscar Wao

Oscar Wao — Sun, 24 May 2009 06:23:37 +0000

I got the impression from the headline that this would be a discussion about the reawl problems of the Republican establishment. However, I discovered that its just more delusional responsibility-releasing crap you people have been telling each other and the world for months. Listen, no one believes you. Its quite obvious that “Washington changed you” or that “Bush led you astray”. For eight years you built the pyre, and when it all burned down, you wanted to whistle while you walked away. In your defense, Democrats aided and abetted you at every point where they should have stopped you. If there’s any criticism you could make of the Democrats that’s the one. Maybe you could make a new slogan about it: “Democrats: They Should Have Intervened Sooner”

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 24 May 2009 05:48:34 +0000

The so-called blue-blood Republicans have never been very comfortable with conservatives. Ronald Reagan is universally loved and revered by Republicans today, but he was really not at all popular with the Republican establishment in the 1970’s. At the time they pretty much viewed him as an interloper and rabble rouser. He didn’t become popular with them until after he won the presidential election.

By: JIMV

JIMV — Sat, 23 May 2009 15:32:09 +0000

A while ago I lived in Maine. I was a member of both the Portland Maine and Cumberland County Republican Committees. On one of the many occasions Senator Snowe sold out the party, I raised the idea of sending a sense of the city resolution to the good Senator advising her that a large majority of her base did not agree with the vote. We sent that and all Hell broke loose. Loud push back. I was not deterred and tried the same thing at the far larger County Committee. Those folk were scared to death and put off the vote for a week using Roberts Rules of Order. The County Committee normally had a turnout of around 50 folk for a monthly meeting. The next month we had over 100 people turn out divided into two groups, elected state and local government folk with party movers and shakers, who almost never show up at such meetings, and the normal envelope stuffing base. After a long and rancorous debate we voted and every single elected official and leader in the party voted against the idea. Worse, they made it very clear to we poor foot soldiers in the base, that our job was to stuff those envelopes, write modest checks and attend rally’s and it was their role to do all this silly ‘republican agenda’ stuff. We were most assuredly to be seen but not heard.

I figure that vote drove maybe a few dozen active members of the base from the party. My wife and I waited for the good Senator to join the Gang of 14 to say enough was enough and stop playing and contributing.

The line “the same way that 14th-century French monarchs viewed their serfs” certainly applied. One did not dare question those elected demi-Gods…we were, after all, the little folk, serfs one and all.

By: Chuck Pelto

Chuck Pelto — Sat, 23 May 2009 15:12:38 +0000

P.S. Everyone have a WONDERFUL ‘holiday’….

By: Chuck Pelto

Chuck Pelto — Sat, 23 May 2009 15:11:57 +0000

TO: All RE: [Slightly O-T] Heh

But he [Obama] seems, in my honestly held opinion, to be bent on surpassing Senator McCain in that particular arena [treasonous actions]. -- Myself, yesterday afternoon

And TODAY no sooner said than 'done'.

In a sobering holiday interview with C-SPAN, President Obama boldly told Americans: "We are out of money." -- Drudge Report, citing President Obama at 0908 hrs (MDT), 23 May 2009

On top of THAT, today's paper holds a map of the US indicating the rates of unemployment by state. Looks like all the states that voted for The One are the hardest hit, i.e., double-digits. RE: On Topic I don't see the Republicans doing much about this. Indeed, one gets the distinct impression that they are in cahoots with these cretins. Regards, Chuck(le) [Anyone for a TEA Party?]

By: mamma

mamma — Sat, 23 May 2009 01:21:52 +0000

Mr Hawkins- Amen, amen, amen. Excellent explanation of the current state of the Republican Party.Everything you said is true.There is ONE incumbent that I know of in Georgia who is voting the right way every time- Tom Price. The rest of them have no idea what kind of peril we are in. They have no clue that we may have had our last free election – or at least the last election in which there were two parties running against each other (sort of). I just got a newsletter from Johnny Isakson bragging about how he wants to bring a rail system from Atlanta to Charlotte, NC. We are in the middle of a total government/socialist take over- and he’s talking about rail lines. It makes one want to scream!

By: Chuck Pelto

Chuck Pelto — Fri, 22 May 2009 21:17:43 +0000

TO: shaui-jan
RE: Well….

mccain/ kennedy..mccain/fiengold…he got made into a chump….literaly foisted by his own petard on the latter.no one liked him…..it was a vote between “the lesser evils.” — shaui-jan

…actually….

….he was the just-as-bad as the other evil. But in a different manner.

BOTH of them ‘hated’ America. It’s just that McCain had literally attacked the Bill of Rights with McCain-Feingold. So he was a proven, in my honestly held opinion, a ‘traitor’ to his country and a breaker of his oath as a Senator and an officer in the Armed Forces of the United States.

Obama had not had quite THAT opportunity as a junior Senator.

But he seems, in my honestly held opinion, to be bent on surpassing Senator McCain in that particular arena.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Be Prepared. -- American Boy Scout motto]

By: shaui-jan

shaui-jan — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:54:59 +0000

g alston. “This says the problem had more to do with Palin than McCain.”if you think this……then you weren’t paying attention.by 2008 mccain had burned all his bridges.

mccain/ kennedy..mccain/fiengold…he got made into a chump….literaly foisted by his own petard on the latter.no one liked him…..it was a vote between “the lesser evils.”

mccain’s main vote getter was obama,then palin……with him being last.

By: Chuck Pelto

Chuck Pelto — Fri, 22 May 2009 19:24:01 +0000

TO: El hefe
RE: What They Do….

Once you define a bible thumper then please describe what they do that is not right for conservatives. —

….is scare the merde out of their likes with ideas like ‘honor’, ‘integrity’, ‘monogamy’ and ‘truth’.

And I find it particularly telling that neither of those characters has deemed it proper to answer your question.

I’m having a similar discussion over on Dr. Helen’s site, where they’re discussing the sorry state of affairs with marriage in America. Some of them are so full of anger and hatred that they just can’t seem to find it in themselves to read the book they hate so much.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Know your enemy and know yourself and in a hundred battles you will never face disaster. -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War, mandatory reading at Benning School for Boys]