Comments on: The Top Ten Ways Sarah Palin Has Shaken Up the Race http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:54:12 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: RODW http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-113504 RODW Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:00:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-113504 AFTER READING THE COMMENTS IN THIS COLUMN I CAN'T BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS LOST THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS. AFTER READING THE COMMENTS IN THIS COLUMN I CAN’T BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS LOST THE LAST TWO ELECTIONS.

]]> By: Chang http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104870 Chang Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:15:58 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104870 You are judged by the company you keep. Looking at Obama and Biden you see Tony Rizo who is convicted in jail, William Ayers the bomber, Rev. Wright and Farakahn the racist. The liberal media who slanders an all American woman Sara Palin and her 17 year old daughter. Then attacks her qualifications which means they are attacking all women. Obama can’t speak with out a teleprompter which means someone else is telling him what to say. Sara Palin has an 80 percent approval rating by hundred of thousands who put their stamp of approval on her. Now the entire country approves of her. The Democrat party has been taken over by socialists and the insane. Their idea of a qualified woman is a hard core lesbian! The Bible sums it up They are evil haters of God and despisers good. You are judged by the company you keep. Looking at Obama and Biden you see Tony Rizo who is convicted in jail, William Ayers the bomber, Rev. Wright and Farakahn the racist. The liberal media who slanders an all American woman Sara Palin and her 17 year old daughter. Then attacks her qualifications which means they are attacking all women. Obama can’t speak with out a teleprompter which means someone else is telling him what to say. Sara Palin has an 80 percent approval rating by hundred of thousands who put their stamp of approval on her. Now the entire country approves of her. The Democrat party has been taken over by socialists and the insane. Their idea of a qualified woman is a hard core lesbian! The Bible sums it up They are evil haters of God and despisers good.

]]> By: From Duluth http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104868 From Duluth Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:14:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104868 The congenital lefties running Obama's campaign cannot just ignore Sarah Palin and let the novelty bounce fade away. Instead, with the audacity of dopes, these elitists in their argula arrogance just keep driving more and more women and working class folks into the McCain-Palin camp. Result -- the resurrection of the Reagan Democrats for McCain-Palin. No one in this country scores political gain by throwing nasty verbal rocks at a woman, no one, not even The One. The congenital lefties running Obama’s campaign cannot just ignore Sarah Palin and let the novelty bounce fade away. Instead, with the audacity of dopes, these elitists in their argula arrogance just keep driving more and more women and working class folks into the McCain-Palin camp. Result — the resurrection of the Reagan Democrats for McCain-Palin. No one in this country scores political gain by throwing nasty verbal rocks at a woman, no one, not even The One.

]]> By: Jason http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104468 Jason Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:03:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104468 Ask and I shall deliver. Wall Street Journal, a pretty reliable, conservative news outlet too, not some liberal hack job. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122090791901411709.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Does McCain even know he picked someone who was for the pork before she was against it, but really she was still both for it and against it??? Ask and I shall deliver. Wall Street Journal, a pretty reliable, conservative news outlet too, not some liberal hack job.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122090791901411709.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Does McCain even know he picked someone who was for the pork before she was against it, but really she was still both for it and against it???

]]> By: Bookman http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104313 Bookman Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:29:04 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104313 Ex-fetus: "The next President of the Senate would be an ideal woman to put in charge of that." It will take a woman to clean up the Senate? Heh heh. Ex-fetus: “The next President of the Senate would be an ideal woman to put in charge of that.”

It will take a woman to clean up the Senate? Heh heh.

]]> By: Bookman http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104312 Bookman Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:24:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104312 I'm a newcomer here, via a Fark posting of this URL, and I'm very pleased to see the high level of intelligent discussion here (unlike Fark, which I am beginning to think consists heavily of people still living in Mom's basement). Several people here have been throwing around statistics regarding civilian casualties in Iraq, reasons for going into Iraq, etc. What I haven't seen (apologies if I missed it) is a discussion of what I believe are the *real* reasons we went in. My military background is only 2 active duty Navy years during Vietnam, but I read *a lot* of military history. The Iraq War is a classic "suck" or "killing ground" situation, where one side forces the enemy into confrontation in an area that the enemy feels *must* be maintained. Classically, in a campaign of this sort, you maintain *just* enough forces to barely maintain control. This encourages the enemy to continually commit - and over-commit - their forces in the hope of eventually driving you out of the area. Then, at the appropriate time, when the enemy is drained, you clamp down and send in enough force to finish them. Is this not a description of what actually has occurred in Iraq? Thin US forces, fighting for years with no apparrent effect, an then the Surge? It's not pretty or "ethical" but international politics isn't, either. Never has been and never will be. I also see a "pressure cooker" analogy. The Middle East is a pressure cooker of fundamentalist fanaticism. Iraq has actually functioned at a "steam value" that has relieved pressure that otherwise might have exploded the pot. Yes, it has been tough on the Iraqi civilian population, and tough on the 4,000+ American an Allied troops that have died there, and the thousands more that have been injured. But the alternative, IMHO, would be a situation that could escalate to area-wide Jihad - and eventually lead to *very* hard response by US and/or Israeli strategic forces. Yes, I'm talking nuclear. 300,000,000 dead Muslims and glowing landscape is NOT an option that I would like to see occur. In my opinion, the Iraq War is actually *helping* to prevent that possibility. How does this relate to McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden? Think about this: - WWI - Wilson (D) - WWII - Roosevelt (D) - Korea Truman (D) - Vietnam - JFK (D) In all cases, we got involved in major wars due to mixtures of (1) idealism (making the world safe for democracy, etc.) and (2) President's who were perceived by foreign leaders as being weak, trying to prove that they were tough guys. In terms of foreign policy, Obama isn't a tough guy. As President, he might very well try to prove that he was. Mccain, OTOH, doesn't need to prove anything to anybody, and every foreign leader knows it. Obama = good chance for a really big war with major civilian casualties (not necessarily on our side, but why have any?) McCain = good chance for either uneasy peace or a series of small brushfire wars. I'll take McCain. I’m a newcomer here, via a Fark posting of this URL, and I’m very pleased to see the high level of intelligent discussion here (unlike Fark, which I am beginning to think consists heavily of people still living in Mom’s basement).

Several people here have been throwing around statistics regarding civilian casualties in Iraq, reasons for going into Iraq, etc. What I haven’t seen (apologies if I missed it) is a discussion of what I believe are the *real* reasons we went in.

My military background is only 2 active duty Navy years during Vietnam, but I read *a lot* of military history. The Iraq War is a classic “suck” or “killing ground” situation, where one side forces the enemy into confrontation in an area that the enemy feels *must* be maintained.

Classically, in a campaign of this sort, you maintain *just* enough forces to barely maintain control. This encourages the enemy to continually commit – and over-commit – their forces in the hope of eventually driving you out of the area. Then, at the appropriate time, when the enemy is drained, you clamp down and send in enough force to finish them.

Is this not a description of what actually has occurred in Iraq? Thin US forces, fighting for years with no apparrent effect, an then the Surge?

It’s not pretty or “ethical” but international politics isn’t, either. Never has been and never will be.

I also see a “pressure cooker” analogy. The Middle East is a pressure cooker of fundamentalist fanaticism. Iraq has actually functioned at a “steam value” that has relieved pressure that otherwise might have exploded the pot.

Yes, it has been tough on the Iraqi civilian population, and tough on the 4,000+ American an Allied troops that have died there, and the thousands more that have been injured.

But the alternative, IMHO, would be a situation that could escalate to area-wide Jihad – and eventually lead to *very* hard response by US and/or Israeli strategic forces. Yes, I’m talking nuclear. 300,000,000 dead Muslims and glowing landscape is NOT an option that I would like to see occur.

In my opinion, the Iraq War is actually *helping* to prevent that possibility.

How does this relate to McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden? Think about this: – WWI – Wilson (D)
- WWII – Roosevelt (D)
- Korea Truman (D)
- Vietnam – JFK (D)

In all cases, we got involved in major wars due to mixtures of (1) idealism (making the world safe for democracy, etc.) and (2) President’s who were perceived by foreign leaders as being weak, trying to prove that they were tough guys.

In terms of foreign policy, Obama isn’t a tough guy. As President, he might very well try to prove that he was. Mccain, OTOH, doesn’t need to prove anything to anybody, and every foreign leader knows it.

Obama = good chance for a really big war with major civilian casualties (not necessarily on our side, but why have any?)

McCain = good chance for either uneasy peace or a series of small brushfire wars.

I’ll take McCain.

]]> By: Jeff http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104294 Jeff Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:42:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104294 My biggest concern with McCain's pick of Palin is that, with her tough no holds bar conservative stance, it will be very difficult to reform this hyperpartisanship that we are facing in Washington, as McCain claims that he wants to do. They will face many an opposition from the Left in Washington from the start on many an issues facing our country. The other main fact is that Palin has never tackled on any problems inside of Washington so will be viewed by our Democratic controlled Congress with little experience, as McCain has always viewed with Obama. They will always have a mental note of the short time that she'll be in Washington. With Palin's pick, we could be facing a more uphill battle in Washington than Obama's pick of Biden. We don't need internal battles in Washington, we need results! My biggest concern with McCain’s pick of Palin is that, with her tough no holds bar conservative stance, it will be very difficult to reform this hyperpartisanship that we are facing in Washington, as McCain claims that he wants to do. They will face many an opposition from the Left in Washington from the start on many an issues facing our country.

The other main fact is that Palin has never tackled on any problems inside of Washington so will be viewed by our Democratic controlled Congress with little experience, as McCain has always viewed with Obama. They will always have a mental note of the short time that she’ll be in Washington.

With Palin’s pick, we could be facing a more uphill battle in Washington than Obama’s pick of Biden. We don’t need internal battles in Washington, we need results!

]]> By: The Potency of Palin « Republican Party of Jefferson County, TN http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104246 The Potency of Palin « Republican Party of Jefferson County, TN Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:39:38 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104246 [...] Jennifer Rubin is right in saying, “Sarah Palin has shaken up the race.”  Actually, I think she has shaken it all the way down to its foundation.  And, Sarah Palin drives the media nuts. Explore posts in the same categories: National Politics [...] [...] Jennifer Rubin is right in saying, “Sarah Palin has shaken up the race.”  Actually, I think she has shaken it all the way down to its foundation.  And, Sarah Palin drives the media nuts. Explore posts in the same categories: National Politics [...]

]]> By: Grace http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104161 Grace Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:39:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104161 Real change is on its way. Real change is on its way.

]]> By: BC http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/comment-page-2/#comment-104151 BC Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:28:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-top-ten-ways-sarah-palin-has-shaken-up-the-race/#comment-104151 To Danny -- last word: here is a link to MIT's copy of the study: http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/reports/human-cost-war-101106.pdf On the first page, under go look under "Methods" for how they sampled -- it was a teeny weeny bit more than "40." And as I mentioned earlier, another more recent study by ORB (Opinion Research Business) put the Iraqi civilian deaths at the million plus range: http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=88 This falls in line with the earlier John Hopkins study given the intervening time: another site used the earlier John Hopkins study as the baseline and then used the percent increase in the IBC numbers since to extrapolate: http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/counterexplanation.html But this is all math and research and such, and I don't want to anyone's head here to explode. Why don't you all concentrate on more fun and fact-free stuff like the "Top Ten Ways Sarah Palin Has Shaken Up the Race".... Toodles.... To Danny — last word: here is a link to MIT’s copy of the study:
http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/reports/human-cost-war-101106.pdf

On the first page, under go look under “Methods” for how they sampled — it was a teeny weeny bit more than “40.”

And as I mentioned earlier, another more recent study by ORB (Opinion Research Business) put the Iraqi civilian deaths at the million plus range:
http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=88

This falls in line with the earlier John Hopkins study given the intervening time: another site used the earlier John Hopkins study as the baseline and then used the percent increase in the IBC numbers since to extrapolate:
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/counterexplanation.html

But this is all math and research and such, and I don’t want to anyone’s head here to explode. Why don’t you all concentrate on more fun and fact-free stuff like the “Top Ten Ways Sarah Palin Has Shaken Up the Race”….

Toodles….

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