Comments on: Health Care Of the Canadian Rich and Famous http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:05:15 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Amber http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-37312 Amber Thu, 08 May 2008 01:53:08 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-37312 Hey, was wondering if anyone has any health insurance horror stories to share for a paper I am writing for my advanced research class. Thanks for any you can offer. Hey, was wondering if anyone has any health insurance horror stories to share for a paper I am writing for my advanced research class. Thanks for any you can offer.

]]> By: papa bear http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14474 papa bear Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:07:43 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14474 Jules: Perhaps because her receiving follow up maintenance treatment in Canada would be par for the course for the wealthy foreigners who come here for treatment then bash the hell out of Americans for having an expensive health care system. Also interesting that you would leave this part out: "Speed was not the issue, MacEachern said -- it was more to do with the type of surgery she and her doctor agreed was best for her, and where it was best performed. The type of cancer Stronach had -- ductal carcinoma in situ -- is one of the more treatable forms." A basic procedure to excise the cancer is best left treated outside of Canada?!?!? What happens when something tricky comes along? I perish the thought. The US could lower costs back to 1950's/60's levels (in terms of % of income spent) with one simple step: TORT REFORM. Malpractice insurance is such a monstrous cost that we are bent over a barrel every time a hospital is dragged to court every time a sore throat doesn't heal fast enough. There are other things that could be done, but that's #1 and the biggest. Jules: Perhaps because her receiving follow up maintenance treatment in Canada would be par for the course for the wealthy foreigners who come here for treatment then bash the hell out of Americans for having an expensive health care system.
Also interesting that you would leave this part out:
“Speed was not the issue, MacEachern said — it was more to do with the type of surgery she and her doctor agreed was best for her, and where it was best performed. The type of cancer Stronach had — ductal carcinoma in situ — is one of the more treatable forms.”
A basic procedure to excise the cancer is best left treated outside of Canada?!?!? What happens when something tricky comes along? I perish the thought.

The US could lower costs back to 1950’s/60’s levels (in terms of % of income spent) with one simple step: TORT REFORM. Malpractice insurance is such a monstrous cost that we are bent over a barrel every time a hospital is dragged to court every time a sore throat doesn’t heal fast enough. There are other things that could be done, but that’s #1 and the biggest.

]]> By: jules_siegel http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14473 jules_siegel Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:32:12 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14473 She went to California for reconstructive surgery. Her cancer surgeries were performed in Canada: "Belinda had one of her later-stage operations in California, after referral from her personal physicians in Toronto. Prior to this, Belinda had surgery and treatment in Toronto, and continues to receive followup treatment there," said Greg MacEachern, Stronach's assistant and spokesperson. <a href="http://news.therecord.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/241808" rel="nofollow">http://news.therecord.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/241808</a> Why did the writer of this article leave that out? She went to California for reconstructive surgery. Her cancer surgeries were performed in Canada:

“Belinda had one of her later-stage operations in California, after referral from her personal physicians in Toronto. Prior to this, Belinda had surgery and treatment in Toronto, and continues to receive followup treatment there,” said Greg MacEachern, Stronach’s assistant and spokesperson.
http://news.therecord.com/News/CanadaWorld/article/241808

Why did the writer of this article leave that out?

]]> By: Heather Cook http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14472 Heather Cook Sat, 06 Oct 2007 03:00:52 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14472 My apologies, I did know that Smitherman is the health minister of Ontario - not Canada. I mis-typed. My apologies, I did know that Smitherman is the health minister of Ontario – not Canada. I mis-typed.

]]> By: Kerrie http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14471 Kerrie Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:44:40 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14471 My sister works at the University of Washington Medical Center. All of her patients have cancer. Most of her patients were the unfortunate ones who had failed to respond to their cancer treatment. She once told me, "If you're on my floor, you are either going to die, or you're a wealthy European.". Socialism doesn't work because since you can't make everyone equally happy, you have to make them equally miserable. My sister works at the University of Washington Medical Center. All of her patients have cancer. Most of her patients were the unfortunate ones who had failed to respond to their cancer treatment.

She once told me, “If you’re on my floor, you are either going to die, or you’re a wealthy European.”.

Socialism doesn’t work because since you can’t make everyone equally happy, you have to make them equally miserable.

]]> By: Bearster http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14470 Bearster Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:29:49 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14470 ZZMike: I have my own catastrophic medical insurance with a $5000 deductible. I assure you that I pay nowhere NEAR $9000 a year! Note that insurance is not the same thing as "coverage" of boo-boos and bandaids. Insurance protects you from a financial wipe-out. But this is not what most people think they want to today. Most people seem to have a victim mentality and want to abdicate responsibility for their own lives and have someone somehow take care of them. Thus the perennial appeal of socialized medicine, socialized schools, socialized roads and trains, etc. As if the free market gives us shortages and rationing of food, clothing, computers, Internet bandwidth, blogs... ZZMike: I have my own catastrophic medical insurance with a $5000 deductible. I assure you that I pay nowhere NEAR $9000 a year!

Note that insurance is not the same thing as “coverage” of boo-boos and bandaids.

Insurance protects you from a financial wipe-out. But this is not what most people think they want to today. Most people seem to have a victim mentality and want to abdicate responsibility for their own lives and have someone somehow take care of them. Thus the perennial appeal of socialized medicine, socialized schools, socialized roads and trains, etc.

As if the free market gives us shortages and rationing of food, clothing, computers, Internet bandwidth, blogs…

]]> By: John B http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14469 John B Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:04:53 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14469 "and it's not actually free." Well d'oh. I thought the tooth fairy paid for health care. “and it’s not actually free.”

Well d’oh. I thought the tooth fairy paid for health care.

]]> By: Ed Derbyshire http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14468 Ed Derbyshire Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:56:44 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14468 Smitherman is the health minister of Ontario - not Canada. As health is a provincial responsibility in the Canadian Constitution. Smitherman is the health minister of Ontario – not Canada. As health is a provincial responsibility in the Canadian Constitution.

]]> By: fred lapides http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14467 fred lapides Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:08:40 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14467 stuff and nonsense., Do our Congress people in the US have great coverage while most Americans do not? √éo the wealthyhere or in Canada or anywhere else not use their wealth to get what they want and when they want it? Coverage in Canada is for lots of people who could not fly to California for anything--including cancer treatments. Do you have access to Walter Reed when you need it? stop bitching and recognize that money is useful and comes in handy, in Canada, China, or the USA. stuff and nonsense., Do our Congress people in the US have great coverage while most Americans do not? √éo the wealthyhere or in Canada or anywhere else not use their wealth to get what they want and when they want it? Coverage in Canada is for lots of people who could not fly to California for anything–including cancer treatments. Do you have access to Walter Reed when you need it? stop bitching and recognize that money is useful and comes in handy, in Canada, China, or the USA.

]]> By: John http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the_rich_and_famous_guide_to_c/comment-page-1/#comment-14466 John Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:53:08 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/health-care-of-the-canadian-rich-and-famous/#comment-14466 "Stronach flew to California on the advice of her doctor to receive surgery" HillaryCare will put a stop to this kind of behavior! “Stronach flew to California on the advice of her doctor to receive surgery”

HillaryCare will put a stop to this kind of behavior!

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