Comments on: Government Policies Stifle Talk of Islam

By: Debbie

Debbie — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:02:58 +0000

I have seen apathy and complacency in the Western World. I cannot imagine how any American could set by and watch this country become indifferent to what is taking place in Western society, and all over the world. Islam is radical and extreme, and wants to impose Sharia Law and Sharia finance on the struggling businesses in America.

This is how they get their foot in the door, so to speak in Western society. We must address them and call them by their correct name, Islamic terrorists, who impose violence, and domination on free societies. There is a good majority of the muslim world, who does not believe in the violence that is spreading, but they are afraid to speak out against Jihad.

These peaceful muslims have also been hijacked into the extremist world of their fighting, hateful brothers and sisters.

I think every new elected official should be aware of this politically correct farce, in calling them Islamic fundmentalists. Their principles are not fundamentally sound at all, and they will use the same tactics no matter what we call them. Anyone with a voice for truth should speak out in defense of Freedom!

I would also like to remind everyone that we should all be praying and repenting for the Almighty to stop this terrible spread of Islamic terrorism and violence, and to give Israel protection from her enemies.

History has seen Hitler’s Holocaust, the Tyranny by the Roman Empire, and now another enemy far more brutal and uncarring than the previous two co-sponsors of extremism, violence, and evil.

By: Michael

Michael — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:58:20 +0000

The Bible has never been disproven?… Tempting, but I don’t believe this is the place for such a discussion, Marc. I’d be happy to respond if it is deemed appropriate. Obviously this subject tends to inflame passions. Fact is, I most definitely am NOT an Athiest. I’m simply a firm believer that no human yet born can accurately define the nature of God, especially humans who lived two thousand or fourteen hundred years ago. I mentioned “Santa” only because, according to his legends, the character of his inclusive tolerance and peaceful philosophy, much like “Jainism” seems more evolved than the self-limiting, historically violent institutions of Islam and Christianity. These ideologies are clearly alternate manifestations of religions and Myths which have existed in numerous other forms throughout recorded civilization. Details provided ad nauseum, but only by request *@drewstudios.com. And I’m *mollick. The Founding Fathers DID claim to Christian motivation, as was the overwhelming custom of the day, however, what they ACTUALLY implemented, was more Masonic by way of philosophy. They utilized classical Greek and Roman knowledge to form their best guess of a viable “Republic” and expressly refuted a “Divine Kingly Right”, although admittedly it was a close thing. The “Great Experiment” — the separation of Church and State, has indeed reformed the Western world and given us that ’slight’ edge of social maturation over the Middle-East. Strict adherence to a primitive, tribal doctrine is EXACTLY what endangers our world, be it the Qur’an OR the Constantine mandated collection of stories of Jesus — what was PC for Niocea in 324 AD.
God/Allah, our world, our Universe is far bigger and more complex than any one of us can comprehend. The nature of everything, perhaps even God, seems to “evolve”. The key to success is remaining ‘adaptable’. Christianity has come part of the way. Islam (with the exception of Sufism) has not, thus the concept of “Jihad” — necessary to maintain a few nomadic desert tribes 1400 years ago, has become a global imperative for 1.7 Billion people.
We’re in big trouble. They’re allowed to ‘lie’. Expected to — if it advances Jihad. The limited Christian perspective can’t apprehend this and so much else about their culture. Solid, demonstrable “Reason” is our… only “prayer”. Hehe.

Michael

By: LynnS

LynnS — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:08:57 +0000

Kalen: While I think that the government and others might have sound reasons to fight fire with water, I believe that it is wise for us to also fight fire with fire. I think that rewriting history to pretend that the religion of Islam was peacefully spread throughout the Middle East, Asia, Europe and Africa, and that Mohammad was a benevolent founder of that faith is doing us great disservice. We have heard over and over that Islamists do not hate the people of the West, but hate it’s culture, government and foreign policy. Why would it be unwise for us to say that we in the public do not hate the followers of Islam but abhor the founder Mohammad’s methods of conversion and his call for death to the Jews and Infidels. Sooner or later one has to acknowledge the elephant in the room. Those like Robert Spencer, Steven Emerson and others should not be faint background voices. The barbarian crowds are not at bay anymore, they are nipping at our heels.

Michael: I would like to submit to you that there are Christians that read the words of Jesus and it is their sword to fight against the Islamists and their doctrine. Pretending that our society and government was established on purely secular beliefs, also denies another fact. We are a predominately Christian nation and the founding fathers were well aware of the value of that faith and it’s contribution to making this society a more perfect union. Starting your opinion with all due respect, and in the middle equating religious belief with belief in ‘Santa’ gives your real thoughts away.

By: Marc Malone

Marc Malone — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 10:09:03 +0000

Michael – How can you think that this is not a Christian Nation? All of the founders were devout Christians. The only thing that dictated otherwise was the first amendment proviso that the State shall make no establishment etc…. It didn’t say that the Church should stay out of the State, but rather that the State should stay out of the Church.

The fact is, the Constitution was founded upon Christian principles. Read the Preamble again. The problem is two-fold: Some Justice misinterpreted the First Amendment as “separation of Church and State”; and our universities teach that religion is all just primitive superstition without teaching the balancing arguments that allow one to decide for oneself.

For all your atheism, you can’t show one thing that has ever disproven the Truth of the Bible. It has never been disproven. Not one bit. After all this time. That should tell you something.

By: Bernard Chapin

Bernard Chapin — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:12:34 +0000

“The second sign arrived days later when Operation Infinite Justice became Operation Enduring Freedom.”–Moment I first worried about Bush being Mr. PC. I was right to be scared in retrospect. British Home Secretary Jacqui Smith is a character out of 1984. Well, excellent piece, David.

By: Leatherneck

Leatherneck — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:02:55 +0000

Thanks Cybergeezer. Keep you ammo dry.

Over

By: Michael

Michael — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:12:18 +0000

uh Grover, Don Joe, with respect, I would submit that ALL attempts to frame the conflict or the rhetoric by ANY contextual standard other than purely Secular is like a blind man arguing to dim the room lights. The Christian answer is not a remedy. It is a competing brand of ignorance which obfuscates the issues because of your incorrect assumption of an identity where Christianity and America are one and the same. With apologies to our outgoing leader, we could no more claim America is a Christian Nation, than we could a Muslim Nation or more accurately, BOTH have equal rights to stand forth and make such untenable claims. Our Founding Fathers very deliberately established a uniquely Secular Government, where final points of law are subject to measurable ‘reason’. Until the issues are addressed from this purely Secular perspective, there can be NO resolution. The ideologies don’t play well together. Never have, fundamentally never will, despite Christianity’s slight edge in social maturation–I’m of the opinion ‘Santa’ has you both beat. Please, let us all dispense with attitudes of outrage, righteous indignation, and the mere concept of “Political Correctness” because these are inevitably born from “Faith” — a thing which has NO place in the mechanism of law and governance… as UN-’PC’ as it is for me say it.
Great article of unsurpassing ‘reason’, David Rusin! Hearty applause.
Michael

By: LynnS

LynnS — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:00:36 +0000

The first time President Bush called Islam a peaceful religion, I was puzzled, as it seemed completely false considering the behavior of its founder and his cronies. Could it have been to protect this country from anarchists who look for any excuse to riot and cause well….. anarchy, or from those who use any excuse to harm another people who are different? And/or was he trying to shield this country from the leaders of OPEC etc. who seem always to be hunting for an excuse to punish the West, a customer of theirs whom they secretly hate. Whatever the reason, if there is one, I might never know, but it seemed strange that it was one of the few issues that the MSM seemed to not challenge the Administration with, and in fact they took it further by rehashing over and over the West’s sordid history disregarding the good, and reminded us constantly how the terrorists side that the attack was due to our appalling foreign policy. Another words we are to blame for being attacked.

It could be one of the reasons that people are turning more and more to the internet for their news, opinion pieces and research. I am grateful that the internet does not stifle talk about Islam. Thanks for the good article.

By: David H

David H — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:44 +0000

fred I agree with your post 48. about Islam, I too have read the Quran and the ahadiths and see Islam for what it is, I have been reading about Islam since 1997 and have been reading Jihad Watch since 2003, and I am not in government, Valerie might be.

However there is something I would point out, a focus on the Muslim Brotherhood is an important part of the fight, I believe that without such an organisation such as that, Islam would die, the issue is Islam, I have no doubt of that, but certain groups like the MB are blocking change by the mass of people who are lead like sheep.

I found comment 5. incorrect as a Brit and wanted to point that out as it may have been an attempt to link Christianity with Islam, we called them the IRA, never Catholic terrorists, because to be a terrorist would go against the Catholic faith, but calling someone an Islamic terrorist is correct as terrorising someone to further Islam is part of the religion…

By: Cybergeezer

Cybergeezer — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:26:14 +0000

28. Leatherneck:
Nice sarcasm; Looks like you know what’s happening; Semper Fi.