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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor:

our president has ill advisers: condy rice is a very dangerous enemy

1.she helped to create a false idiotic idea of `islamic` threat 
2.she helped to block any serious measures to stop 9-11 from unfolding
3.she persuaded our President to get into dangerous game of friendship with kremlin
4.she pushed President Bush into the acceptance of China to the level of going to attend the BLOODY OLIMPICS

and the above is just a tip of the iceberg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor:</p>
<p>our president has ill advisers: condy rice is a very dangerous enemy</p>
<p>1.she helped to create a false idiotic idea of `islamic` threat<br />
2.she helped to block any serious measures to stop 9-11 from unfolding<br />
3.she persuaded our President to get into dangerous game of friendship with kremlin<br />
4.she pushed President Bush into the acceptance of China to the level of going to attend the BLOODY OLIMPICS</p>
<p>and the above is just a tip of the iceberg</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, this is awful, it is being an &quot;appeaser!&quot; Bush is crumbling to his knees and  &quot;appeasing&quot; the terrorist just like they did in WWII! We must not &quot;appease&quot; anybody! No &quot;appeasement&quot; to the &quot;appeasers&quot; who wish to &quot;appease&quot; the fanatical terrorists  who are trying to steal our freedoms. They want to take our freedom fries, our churches, our Nike&#039;s, our cars, yes they want to take it all! This is horrible! The &quot;appeasement&quot; will cause the downfall of America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, this is awful, it is being an &#8220;appeaser!&#8221; Bush is crumbling to his knees and  &#8220;appeasing&#8221; the terrorist just like they did in WWII! We must not &#8220;appease&#8221; anybody! No &#8220;appeasement&#8221; to the &#8220;appeasers&#8221; who wish to &#8220;appease&#8221; the fanatical terrorists  who are trying to steal our freedoms. They want to take our freedom fries, our churches, our Nike&#8217;s, our cars, yes they want to take it all! This is horrible! The &#8220;appeasement&#8221; will cause the downfall of America!</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meir,
I knew I was going to be right except I didn&#039;t know it was going to be so fast. Actually there wasn&#039;t even a song and dance it was more like a no show. Let me figure out Iran&#039;s next step. They will dodge the current threat of sanctions by requesting a meeting with the US included. They will sit down and then do the same old song and dance. This show should run another several months. Ho hum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meir,<br />
I knew I was going to be right except I didn&#8217;t know it was going to be so fast. Actually there wasn&#8217;t even a song and dance it was more like a no show. Let me figure out Iran&#8217;s next step. They will dodge the current threat of sanctions by requesting a meeting with the US included. They will sit down and then do the same old song and dance. This show should run another several months. Ho hum.</p>
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		<title>By: Meir Javedanfar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meir Javedanfar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To cedarford: Israel has not lost its fighting spirit. I think many were hoping that at least one of the soldiers would come back alive. 

And another thing: diplomacy and multilateralism isn&#039;t dead. Israel and the US can fight, but we must not forget that the military should serve political goals and ambitions. It should be a option of last choice, when all else fails. Unfortunately, due to wars and terrorist attacks, the militaristic way of thinking reigns supreme in many aspects of politics in Israel. Thats understandable, but we must try to change it. Israel has good diplomats. We should go in the international community and participate and negotiate in every forum, no matter who recognizes us, or doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To cedarford: Israel has not lost its fighting spirit. I think many were hoping that at least one of the soldiers would come back alive. </p>
<p>And another thing: diplomacy and multilateralism isn&#8217;t dead. Israel and the US can fight, but we must not forget that the military should serve political goals and ambitions. It should be a option of last choice, when all else fails. Unfortunately, due to wars and terrorist attacks, the militaristic way of thinking reigns supreme in many aspects of politics in Israel. Thats understandable, but we must try to change it. Israel has good diplomats. We should go in the international community and participate and negotiate in every forum, no matter who recognizes us, or doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: cedarford</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedarford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saus - &lt;i&gt;It needs to be clear we are prepared to fight, whether the rest of the world likes it or not...&lt;/i&gt;

I think from Israel&#039;s groveling to Hezbollah to get two corpses back - 195 coffins for two, plus 4 dangerous fighters and a convicted mass murderer was weakness at it&#039;s maximum. Already Hamas noted that their price for Shalit just went way up after the Nasrallah deal, and that he appeared to be worth just as much as a corpse as alive. Plus, add in the 2006 war they figured it was better to lose than take casualties for, or worse, leave behind dead Israeli corpses. The signs of Zionist craveness appear to point to the fact that it is hardly clear that Israel will fight Iran. 

&quot;What if, God forbid, we take casualties attacking Iran and they demand money, missile technology, or giving up the Golan to get our beloved corpses back?? We would have no choice!!&quot;

They are doing their best to get America to fight for them, though...but it looks like the neocons and Christian Zionists that believe no amount of American lives and treasure lost to serve Israel&#039;s interests and keep it&#039;s regional WMD monopoly from challenge - is too much - have lost all meaningful ability to set policy in America.

Honestly, it appears Israel has lost it&#039;s fighting spirit and has enough on it&#039;s hands just dealing with Hez, Hamas, the Syrians and keeping Egypt bribed with US taxpayer dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saus &#8211; <i>It needs to be clear we are prepared to fight, whether the rest of the world likes it or not&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I think from Israel&#8217;s groveling to Hezbollah to get two corpses back &#8211; 195 coffins for two, plus 4 dangerous fighters and a convicted mass murderer was weakness at it&#8217;s maximum. Already Hamas noted that their price for Shalit just went way up after the Nasrallah deal, and that he appeared to be worth just as much as a corpse as alive. Plus, add in the 2006 war they figured it was better to lose than take casualties for, or worse, leave behind dead Israeli corpses. The signs of Zionist craveness appear to point to the fact that it is hardly clear that Israel will fight Iran. </p>
<p>&#8220;What if, God forbid, we take casualties attacking Iran and they demand money, missile technology, or giving up the Golan to get our beloved corpses back?? We would have no choice!!&#8221;</p>
<p>They are doing their best to get America to fight for them, though&#8230;but it looks like the neocons and Christian Zionists that believe no amount of American lives and treasure lost to serve Israel&#8217;s interests and keep it&#8217;s regional WMD monopoly from challenge &#8211; is too much &#8211; have lost all meaningful ability to set policy in America.</p>
<p>Honestly, it appears Israel has lost it&#8217;s fighting spirit and has enough on it&#8217;s hands just dealing with Hez, Hamas, the Syrians and keeping Egypt bribed with US taxpayer dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: saus</title>
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		<dc:creator>saus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meir, your analysis of our hostage deal in Israel is spot on, but you cannot call out the failures of appeasement on one hand, while praising its glories on the other.

Yes, who wishes more than all of us in Israel that diplomacy could win out with Iran, after all whether we strike or not we in the end in Israel will pay the biggest price, but I&#039;d rather pay now than when Iran has nuclear bombs! Having the US inch closer to appeasing the Iranian regime will bring no better result than us appeasing the Hezbollah. This in the end will empower Syria, empower Iran, is a tasty appetizer for the many in the west who don&#039;t think it would be so bad to feed the Iranian crocodile all of Israel itself, to keep them quiet in Qom.. That is unacceptable.

It needs to be clear we are prepared to fight, whether the rest of the world likes it or not, that the price of gasoline does not determine the fate of the people of Israel, the people of Israel determine their own fate as that is the very definition of an independent Jewish State. Would we rather our allies stand with us, of course! America is the most powerful country in the world by exponents, but Israel cannot wait forever. At some point the unfortunate bride waiting at the altar needs to realize the groom may not show up to the party.

This weakness, always unwilling to go forward, to act out internationally what is said either diplomatically or any other way tells us in Israel all we need to know I think, it also tells the Iranians all they need to know. Of late our own government, the picture in the dictionary next to weakness so far has embraced this technique, fancying itself &#039;brilliant&#039; like Liberals in Europe!! Woohoo! - It has been an utter disaster so far on every front.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meir, your analysis of our hostage deal in Israel is spot on, but you cannot call out the failures of appeasement on one hand, while praising its glories on the other.</p>
<p>Yes, who wishes more than all of us in Israel that diplomacy could win out with Iran, after all whether we strike or not we in the end in Israel will pay the biggest price, but I&#8217;d rather pay now than when Iran has nuclear bombs! Having the US inch closer to appeasing the Iranian regime will bring no better result than us appeasing the Hezbollah. This in the end will empower Syria, empower Iran, is a tasty appetizer for the many in the west who don&#8217;t think it would be so bad to feed the Iranian crocodile all of Israel itself, to keep them quiet in Qom.. That is unacceptable.</p>
<p>It needs to be clear we are prepared to fight, whether the rest of the world likes it or not, that the price of gasoline does not determine the fate of the people of Israel, the people of Israel determine their own fate as that is the very definition of an independent Jewish State. Would we rather our allies stand with us, of course! America is the most powerful country in the world by exponents, but Israel cannot wait forever. At some point the unfortunate bride waiting at the altar needs to realize the groom may not show up to the party.</p>
<p>This weakness, always unwilling to go forward, to act out internationally what is said either diplomatically or any other way tells us in Israel all we need to know I think, it also tells the Iranians all they need to know. Of late our own government, the picture in the dictionary next to weakness so far has embraced this technique, fancying itself &#8216;brilliant&#8217; like Liberals in Europe!! Woohoo! &#8211; It has been an utter disaster so far on every front.</p>
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		<title>By: kabud</title>
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		<dc:creator>kabud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those people will fool us

and more innocent victims will die

If negotiators don&#039;t realize it- it is going to be trouble

We should use negotiations as some time co consolidate internal iranian forces who will put kremlin bogus mullahs to justice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those people will fool us</p>
<p>and more innocent victims will die</p>
<p>If negotiators don&#8217;t realize it- it is going to be trouble</p>
<p>We should use negotiations as some time co consolidate internal iranian forces who will put kremlin bogus mullahs to justice</p>
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		<title>By: John Samford</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Samford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That turnip truck is getting much better mileage now that Meir has fallen off.  Got a tune for you Meir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3xEXCF0Ftk

Sometimes cold turkey is the ONLY choice.

“What this does show is how serious we are when we say that we want to try to solve this diplomatically,” 
Not exactly.  What it shows it that some of the people can be fooled all of the time.
This is old news, a known fact since at least P.T. Barnum.  Although I suspect the Roman emperors were hip to it also. 
There is NO CHANCE of the negotiations doing anything other then what the Mad Dog Mullahs want them to do, which is gain time to manufacture atomic bombs. It worked for Kim, why shouldn&#039;t it work for the Mad Dog Mullahs?  And once it works for the Mullahs, it will work for anyone.
When does it stop?  When a major Western city (my money is on New York or London) vanishes in a Pika Dan.  Tht will be the beginning of the end of everything.  Just think, Meir will have done his little bit to help bring that about. 

&quot;There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of
others.&quot;
- Niccolò Machiavelli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That turnip truck is getting much better mileage now that Meir has fallen off.  Got a tune for you Meir.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3xEXCF0Ftk" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3xEXCF0Ftk</a></p>
<p>Sometimes cold turkey is the ONLY choice.</p>
<p>“What this does show is how serious we are when we say that we want to try to solve this diplomatically,”<br />
Not exactly.  What it shows it that some of the people can be fooled all of the time.<br />
This is old news, a known fact since at least P.T. Barnum.  Although I suspect the Roman emperors were hip to it also.<br />
There is NO CHANCE of the negotiations doing anything other then what the Mad Dog Mullahs want them to do, which is gain time to manufacture atomic bombs. It worked for Kim, why shouldn&#8217;t it work for the Mad Dog Mullahs?  And once it works for the Mullahs, it will work for anyone.<br />
When does it stop?  When a major Western city (my money is on New York or London) vanishes in a Pika Dan.  Tht will be the beginning of the end of everything.  Just think, Meir will have done his little bit to help bring that about. </p>
<p>&#8220;There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of<br />
others.&#8221;<br />
- Niccolò Machiavelli</p>
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		<title>By: Morton Doodslag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morton Doodslag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a deep flaw in Mr. Javedanfars&#039;s reasoning. He paints a vivid picture of how displays of weakness, such as Israel&#039;s negotiations (diplomacy) to exchange prisoners for kidnapped tortured murdered soldiers only makes the Muslim slime more bloodthirsty. He then asserts that America&#039;s choice to join these preposterous (failed) European nuclear negotiations (diplomacy) will somehow augment American influence and prestige. 

I can&#039;t help but notice the way Mr. Javedanfars&#039;s analysis and advice always seems designed to muddle, confuse, and to blunt the impact of our efforts to violenyly confront the genocidal Islamic Republic of Iran. If Iran deployed a clever army of moles into the West, moles whose purpose was to obfuscate, confuse, and befuddle, such moles might look suspiciously like Mr. Javedanfar, or the army of Persians in Western circles who consistently misdirect, and strive to make certain we never attack or annihilate the Khomeinist filth of Iran.

One thing is certain; we&#039;ve trusted these analysts for far too long.  We&#039;ve naively  listened to their advice to our detriment. Iran is now closer to nuclear hegemony in the region, and has expanded its evil Shiite tentacles into Lebanon, Iraq, Gaza, and the West Bank. 

After three decades of nonsense, perhaps it&#039;s time to stop listening. We&#039;ve been sold down the river by Muslims and Persians who clearly don&#039;t have our interests in mind when they formulate their opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a deep flaw in Mr. Javedanfars&#8217;s reasoning. He paints a vivid picture of how displays of weakness, such as Israel&#8217;s negotiations (diplomacy) to exchange prisoners for kidnapped tortured murdered soldiers only makes the Muslim slime more bloodthirsty. He then asserts that America&#8217;s choice to join these preposterous (failed) European nuclear negotiations (diplomacy) will somehow augment American influence and prestige. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but notice the way Mr. Javedanfars&#8217;s analysis and advice always seems designed to muddle, confuse, and to blunt the impact of our efforts to violenyly confront the genocidal Islamic Republic of Iran. If Iran deployed a clever army of moles into the West, moles whose purpose was to obfuscate, confuse, and befuddle, such moles might look suspiciously like Mr. Javedanfar, or the army of Persians in Western circles who consistently misdirect, and strive to make certain we never attack or annihilate the Khomeinist filth of Iran.</p>
<p>One thing is certain; we&#8217;ve trusted these analysts for far too long.  We&#8217;ve naively  listened to their advice to our detriment. Iran is now closer to nuclear hegemony in the region, and has expanded its evil Shiite tentacles into Lebanon, Iraq, Gaza, and the West Bank. </p>
<p>After three decades of nonsense, perhaps it&#8217;s time to stop listening. We&#8217;ve been sold down the river by Muslims and Persians who clearly don&#8217;t have our interests in mind when they formulate their opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meir,
I think when Israel exchange 200 bodies and 5 VIP prisoners with her 2 bodies it is means they are very sensetive about values.
in Islamic country the human being is absent and they didn&#039;t care about their killed soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meir,<br />
I think when Israel exchange 200 bodies and 5 VIP prisoners with her 2 bodies it is means they are very sensetive about values.<br />
in Islamic country the human being is absent and they didn&#8217;t care about their killed soldiers.</p>
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