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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/us-ammo-shortage-dont-blame-mexican-cartels/comment-page-3/#comment-439221</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of ammunition used by the Mexican Drug cartels, in their murdering, drug dealing operations in MINISCULE compared to the amount of ammo used on gun ranges, and in hunting in the US.  The amount of rounds fired in anger in Mexico is a tiny, tiny fraction of the amount of rounds fired every day on ranges in Los Angeles.

In mexico, you cannot practice shooting your illegal ak 47.  You can&#039;t bring attention to yourself.  Guns are illegal in Mexico.  On the occasion that Mexican drug smuggler does fire his weapon, there&#039;s better than 50/50 chance he&#039;ll never fire again.  If you added up the total number of drug smugglers in Mexico &amp; the number of rounds they fire over their short careers (before they get killed, or go to jail) it&#039;s just a handful.  They need ammo, but they don&#039;t use much.  If there was a way to figure out how much ammo has been used by the mexican drug smugglers, it&#039;s so small.  It&#039;s tiny.  They fire their weapons rarely, and once they do, they&#039;ve got the whole world cracking down on them.

They only need a few rounds.  Not a continual supply of massive numbers of bullets.  They are not fighting in the trenches.  The do a few drive bys, and then if they don&#039;t get taken out in the cross fire, they hide, or throw away their guns, and hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of ammunition used by the Mexican Drug cartels, in their murdering, drug dealing operations in MINISCULE compared to the amount of ammo used on gun ranges, and in hunting in the US.  The amount of rounds fired in anger in Mexico is a tiny, tiny fraction of the amount of rounds fired every day on ranges in Los Angeles.</p>
<p>In mexico, you cannot practice shooting your illegal ak 47.  You can&#8217;t bring attention to yourself.  Guns are illegal in Mexico.  On the occasion that Mexican drug smuggler does fire his weapon, there&#8217;s better than 50/50 chance he&#8217;ll never fire again.  If you added up the total number of drug smugglers in Mexico &amp; the number of rounds they fire over their short careers (before they get killed, or go to jail) it&#8217;s just a handful.  They need ammo, but they don&#8217;t use much.  If there was a way to figure out how much ammo has been used by the mexican drug smugglers, it&#8217;s so small.  It&#8217;s tiny.  They fire their weapons rarely, and once they do, they&#8217;ve got the whole world cracking down on them.</p>
<p>They only need a few rounds.  Not a continual supply of massive numbers of bullets.  They are not fighting in the trenches.  The do a few drive bys, and then if they don&#8217;t get taken out in the cross fire, they hide, or throw away their guns, and hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Lefew</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/us-ammo-shortage-dont-blame-mexican-cartels/comment-page-2/#comment-439219</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Lefew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of ammunition used by the Mexican Drug cartels, in their murdering, drug dealing operations in MINISCULE compared to the amount of ammo used on gun ranges, and in hunting in the US.  The amount of rounds fired in anger in Mexico is a tiny, tiny fraction of the amount of rounds fired every day on ranges in Los Angeles.

In mexico, you cannot practice shooting your illegal ak 47.  You can&#039;t bring attention to yourself.  Guns are illegal in Mexico.  On the occasion that Mexican drug smuggler does fire his weapon, there&#039;s better than 50/50 chance he&#039;ll never fire again.  If you added up the total number of drug smugglers in Mexico &amp; the number of rounds they fire over their short careers (before they get killed, or go to jail) it&#039;s just a handful.  They need ammo, but they don&#039;t use much.  If there was a way to figure out how much ammo has been used by the mexican drug smugglers, it&#039;s so small.  It&#039;s tiny.  They fire their weapons rarely, and once they do, they&#039;ve got the whole world cracking down on them.

They only need a few rounds.  Not a continual supply of massive numbers of bullets.  They are not fighting in the trenches.  The do a few drive bys, and then if they don&#039;t get taken out in the cross fire, they hide, or throw away their guns, and hide.

The original story is a mis-representation of the facts completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of ammunition used by the Mexican Drug cartels, in their murdering, drug dealing operations in MINISCULE compared to the amount of ammo used on gun ranges, and in hunting in the US.  The amount of rounds fired in anger in Mexico is a tiny, tiny fraction of the amount of rounds fired every day on ranges in Los Angeles.</p>
<p>In mexico, you cannot practice shooting your illegal ak 47.  You can&#8217;t bring attention to yourself.  Guns are illegal in Mexico.  On the occasion that Mexican drug smuggler does fire his weapon, there&#8217;s better than 50/50 chance he&#8217;ll never fire again.  If you added up the total number of drug smugglers in Mexico &amp; the number of rounds they fire over their short careers (before they get killed, or go to jail) it&#8217;s just a handful.  They need ammo, but they don&#8217;t use much.  If there was a way to figure out how much ammo has been used by the mexican drug smugglers, it&#8217;s so small.  It&#8217;s tiny.  They fire their weapons rarely, and once they do, they&#8217;ve got the whole world cracking down on them.</p>
<p>They only need a few rounds.  Not a continual supply of massive numbers of bullets.  They are not fighting in the trenches.  The do a few drive bys, and then if they don&#8217;t get taken out in the cross fire, they hide, or throw away their guns, and hide.</p>
<p>The original story is a mis-representation of the facts completely.</p>
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		<title>By: JAPWG</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/us-ammo-shortage-dont-blame-mexican-cartels/comment-page-2/#comment-359022</link>
		<dc:creator>JAPWG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody give any thought to the fact that the current administration is responsible for the shortage?  
Yes, we have the right to own and bear arms, but the constitution doesn&#039;t say anything about ammo..  
Remember, Obama studied Liberation Theology and Black Liberation Theology for more than 19 years before he took office?  That teaches liberation by any means necessary.
If we can&#039;t fire our weapons, we&#039;re no threat to a government that would quietly move to control it&#039;s own people.
More than half of Germany thought Hitler was a great guy simply because they were ill informed.
Lap-dog media keeps us in the dark and feeds us the fertilzer that the current admin. would have us absorb. 
Are we THAT ignorant?
Let&#039;s take a closer look at our own.  
It wasn&#039;t that long ago that the Native Americans trusted our govt. and look where it got them.
For the sake of our grandchildren, let&#039;s start making our elected officials accountable.  
By the way, if we&#039;re all buying up the ammo., why are the ammo. manufacturers not reporting record profits?  And, where are my dividends?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody give any thought to the fact that the current administration is responsible for the shortage?<br />
Yes, we have the right to own and bear arms, but the constitution doesn&#8217;t say anything about ammo..<br />
Remember, Obama studied Liberation Theology and Black Liberation Theology for more than 19 years before he took office?  That teaches liberation by any means necessary.<br />
If we can&#8217;t fire our weapons, we&#8217;re no threat to a government that would quietly move to control it&#8217;s own people.<br />
More than half of Germany thought Hitler was a great guy simply because they were ill informed.<br />
Lap-dog media keeps us in the dark and feeds us the fertilzer that the current admin. would have us absorb.<br />
Are we THAT ignorant?<br />
Let&#8217;s take a closer look at our own.<br />
It wasn&#8217;t that long ago that the Native Americans trusted our govt. and look where it got them.<br />
For the sake of our grandchildren, let&#8217;s start making our elected officials accountable.<br />
By the way, if we&#8217;re all buying up the ammo., why are the ammo. manufacturers not reporting record profits?  And, where are my dividends?</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/us-ammo-shortage-dont-blame-mexican-cartels/comment-page-2/#comment-280231</link>
		<dc:creator>MAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey boys &amp; girls,guess what its Homeland Security buying up the ammo.Probably easier for them to purchase large quantities.I dont know the mechanics of it all but not suprising obomi the comi using this entity to control ammo.Whats next? Anyone else have info?  Always,God,Guts,&amp; Guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey boys &amp; girls,guess what its Homeland Security buying up the ammo.Probably easier for them to purchase large quantities.I dont know the mechanics of it all but not suprising obomi the comi using this entity to control ammo.Whats next? Anyone else have info?  Always,God,Guts,&amp; Guns.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/us-ammo-shortage-dont-blame-mexican-cartels/comment-page-2/#comment-257649</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 23:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, I guess the cartels are into reloading to? because reloading components are just as scarce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, I guess the cartels are into reloading to? because reloading components are just as scarce.</p>
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		<title>By: Core</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/us-ammo-shortage-dont-blame-mexican-cartels/comment-page-2/#comment-254289</link>
		<dc:creator>Core</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 03:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, 
    First of all, and I&#039;m not an anti gunner just wanted to comment on a few of your facts from the article. SS109 5.56N rounds will penetrate most soft body armor used today. The problem with SS109 rounds are that they riccochet back to the shooter very frequently if they hit a solid barrier. Most other 5.56N rounds will also penetrate soft body armor, so SS109 rounds are not especially lethal. Most 5.56N rounds will go through steel plate as well.  Ceramic however, is being utilized to prevent this from happening, along with a host of other materials in development. SS109 rounds are not tactically sound, and also do not always penetrate the target.  As a matter of fact the Army found they often fail to penetrate where FMJ or ball rounds will penetrate the armor.  It may sound confusing but the bottom line is SS109 rounds can be purchased by civilians and suck (at least till Obama bans them). These rounds are not commonly used by crimminals, and it makes no sense why antis are worried about the 5.56N and AR rifles. Mexicans can purchase military weapons from China for a fraction of what it costs to illegally obtain American assault rifles. I don&#039;t care what MExico thinks or implies, if their people obtain weapons illegally from America it&#039;s not my problem, it&#039;s their problem.  Since when do we punish law abiding citizens for the acts of crimminals?  Well, here comes the politics, liberals thinks socialism is for the greater good and this is the bottom line, why not get it out in the open?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
    First of all, and I&#8217;m not an anti gunner just wanted to comment on a few of your facts from the article. SS109 5.56N rounds will penetrate most soft body armor used today. The problem with SS109 rounds are that they riccochet back to the shooter very frequently if they hit a solid barrier. Most other 5.56N rounds will also penetrate soft body armor, so SS109 rounds are not especially lethal. Most 5.56N rounds will go through steel plate as well.  Ceramic however, is being utilized to prevent this from happening, along with a host of other materials in development. SS109 rounds are not tactically sound, and also do not always penetrate the target.  As a matter of fact the Army found they often fail to penetrate where FMJ or ball rounds will penetrate the armor.  It may sound confusing but the bottom line is SS109 rounds can be purchased by civilians and suck (at least till Obama bans them). These rounds are not commonly used by crimminals, and it makes no sense why antis are worried about the 5.56N and AR rifles. Mexicans can purchase military weapons from China for a fraction of what it costs to illegally obtain American assault rifles. I don&#8217;t care what MExico thinks or implies, if their people obtain weapons illegally from America it&#8217;s not my problem, it&#8217;s their problem.  Since when do we punish law abiding citizens for the acts of crimminals?  Well, here comes the politics, liberals thinks socialism is for the greater good and this is the bottom line, why not get it out in the open?</p>
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		<title>By: david P.curcione (N.R.A. Freedom for american gun owners rights !!</title>
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		<dc:creator>david P.curcione (N.R.A. Freedom for american gun owners rights !!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. We must guard agents our emenies are trying to: disadmed us U.S.A. citizens Rights to owned Long Guns &amp; HandGuns &amp; ammo Bullets for our protection Rights is Second amendments Rights of our U.S. Citizens only too. not Illegal alliens of other counties are living here: are trying to distroyed U.S.A. of a Free nation too! agree!!! We must deport thoses illegal people aren&quot;t U.S. citizens at all too!! The IMMERGANTION pOLICE AGENTS &amp; POLICE of Towns, townships, cities ,counties, state Police must get illegal alliens Causing Problems in the U.S.a too! agree!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. We must guard agents our emenies are trying to: disadmed us U.S.A. citizens Rights to owned Long Guns &amp; HandGuns &amp; ammo Bullets for our protection Rights is Second amendments Rights of our U.S. Citizens only too. not Illegal alliens of other counties are living here: are trying to distroyed U.S.A. of a Free nation too! agree!!! We must deport thoses illegal people aren&#8221;t U.S. citizens at all too!! The IMMERGANTION pOLICE AGENTS &amp; POLICE of Towns, townships, cities ,counties, state Police must get illegal alliens Causing Problems in the U.S.a too! agree!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked your article, but it has some flaws. First it is a .223 cal. or also known as the 5.56 NATO. Second the round you are talking about is called an SS109, not SS190. Also you need to check your ballistics. The 5.56 NATO can hit speeds of up to 3384fps with a 55-grain projectile using 27.5 grains of varget rifle powder. There is no .22 mag that can match that. Also the penetrate is designed to penetrate light armor. And anyone over 21 can order this ammo from www.cheaperthandirt.com or your local gun shop. And if you like that round you should check out DRT Ammo. Talk about cop killers. This round leaves a five in crater five inches deep and the round turns in to powder. Untraceable!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked your article, but it has some flaws. First it is a .223 cal. or also known as the 5.56 NATO. Second the round you are talking about is called an SS109, not SS190. Also you need to check your ballistics. The 5.56 NATO can hit speeds of up to 3384fps with a 55-grain projectile using 27.5 grains of varget rifle powder. There is no .22 mag that can match that. Also the penetrate is designed to penetrate light armor. And anyone over 21 can order this ammo from <a href="http://www.cheaperthandirt.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cheaperthandirt.com</a> or your local gun shop. And if you like that round you should check out DRT Ammo. Talk about cop killers. This round leaves a five in crater five inches deep and the round turns in to powder. Untraceable!!</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAS ANYONE HEARD ANY RUMORS ABOUT SERIALIZING BULLETS, AND MAKING THAT A LAW? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THIS SHORTAGE IS GOING TO BE OVER WITH? BECAUSE I OWN A MACHINE SHOP AND I KNOW BRASS AND LEAD ARE DOWN IN PRICE AND SCRAP PRICES ARE WAY DOWN, SO IT JUST MUST BE DEMAND THAT THE PRICES WENT UP SO HIGH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAS ANYONE HEARD ANY RUMORS ABOUT SERIALIZING BULLETS, AND MAKING THAT A LAW? AND DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THIS SHORTAGE IS GOING TO BE OVER WITH? BECAUSE I OWN A MACHINE SHOP AND I KNOW BRASS AND LEAD ARE DOWN IN PRICE AND SCRAP PRICES ARE WAY DOWN, SO IT JUST MUST BE DEMAND THAT THE PRICES WENT UP SO HIGH.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clarify, I said Russian twice to distinguish Russian Mafiya groups that are   based in the &quot;old country&quot; from those based in US cities. Does anyone know how the 95% stastic breaks down in terms of weapon categories? I&#039;d be surprised if it wasn&#039;t mostly handguns. In which case, it&#039;s useless as data since cartels primarily use SMG&#039;s, MG&#039;s, assault rifles, explosives, etc. I also forgot, Russians have given cartels aircraft (helicopters) and other light military vehicles. Pretty scary!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify, I said Russian twice to distinguish Russian Mafiya groups that are   based in the &#8220;old country&#8221; from those based in US cities. Does anyone know how the 95% stastic breaks down in terms of weapon categories? I&#8217;d be surprised if it wasn&#8217;t mostly handguns. In which case, it&#8217;s useless as data since cartels primarily use SMG&#8217;s, MG&#8217;s, assault rifles, explosives, etc. I also forgot, Russians have given cartels aircraft (helicopters) and other light military vehicles. Pretty scary!!!</p>
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