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		<title>By: javamama</title>
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		<dc:creator>javamama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helping my 18 yr old son w/ research for a project on the 60&#039;s and came across your blog and it completely articulated my feelings and thoughts exactly! Such great insight that I can share w/ my son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helping my 18 yr old son w/ research for a project on the 60&#8217;s and came across your blog and it completely articulated my feelings and thoughts exactly! Such great insight that I can share w/ my son.</p>
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		<title>By: platypus</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/viewing-the-1960s-from-my-60s/comment-page-2/#comment-31124</link>
		<dc:creator>platypus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite right on the wind-down of the Vietnam War. 

Nixon didn&#039;t take office until January 1969. &quot;Vietnamization&quot; was well under way by summer of 1970 and it continued until the South Vietnamese military could &quot;stand up&quot; (sound familiar?).

Thus, we were in a phased withdrawal during Nixon&#039;s first term. US ground troops were virtually out completely in 1973, just like he promised in the 1972 election campaign. 

The genocide came after the Demon-crats stopped all funding to South Vietnam. The South Vietnamese military was winning on the battlefield until the money dried up. 

The slaughter was inevitable yet none of the true murderers (the Democrat majority that decided those &quot;gooks&quot; weren&#039;t worth any more of our tax money) have yet to be held to account. 

The very same mindset is operating today, with a different set of &quot;gooks&quot; being set up for slaughter if the &quot;war costs too much&quot; types have their way in the next election. 

The Iraqis know that without McCain in the White House, millions of them will die. They&#039;ve seen the Vietnam script in action, doncha know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not quite right on the wind-down of the Vietnam War. </p>
<p>Nixon didn&#8217;t take office until January 1969. &#8220;Vietnamization&#8221; was well under way by summer of 1970 and it continued until the South Vietnamese military could &#8220;stand up&#8221; (sound familiar?).</p>
<p>Thus, we were in a phased withdrawal during Nixon&#8217;s first term. US ground troops were virtually out completely in 1973, just like he promised in the 1972 election campaign. </p>
<p>The genocide came after the Demon-crats stopped all funding to South Vietnam. The South Vietnamese military was winning on the battlefield until the money dried up. </p>
<p>The slaughter was inevitable yet none of the true murderers (the Democrat majority that decided those &#8220;gooks&#8221; weren&#8217;t worth any more of our tax money) have yet to be held to account. </p>
<p>The very same mindset is operating today, with a different set of &#8220;gooks&#8221; being set up for slaughter if the &#8220;war costs too much&#8221; types have their way in the next election. </p>
<p>The Iraqis know that without McCain in the White House, millions of them will die. They&#8217;ve seen the Vietnam script in action, doncha know?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is, yesterdays 60s radicals are today’s Clinton, Gore and college professors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is, yesterdays 60s radicals are today’s Clinton, Gore and college professors</p>
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		<title>By: Sparky</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/viewing-the-1960s-from-my-60s/comment-page-2/#comment-30808</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am ten years younger than Mr. Prelutsky and I would not have trusted him in 1968 and I do not trust him now. The motivation for the anti-war movement was not fear but loathing. Richard Nixon was elected in 1968 with &quot;a secret plan for peace&quot;. When it turned out that the secret plan was a hoax we became bitter. This child of Quakers had been elected as the peace candidate and after he tricked us in the 1968 election he continued to prosecute a war which by that time just about everybody knew was pointless and vicious. He then invented a &quot;silent majority&quot; of imaginary friends to agree with him. This along with his marvelously amoral &quot;Southern Strategy&quot; created new and bitter divisions along class and race. I was drafted into years of pointless, degrading military service and even though my friends were coming home in body bags, fear was not what I was feeling.  I hated Nixon then and for the sake of history and for the sake of my wasted friends I still hate him now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am ten years younger than Mr. Prelutsky and I would not have trusted him in 1968 and I do not trust him now. The motivation for the anti-war movement was not fear but loathing. Richard Nixon was elected in 1968 with &#8220;a secret plan for peace&#8221;. When it turned out that the secret plan was a hoax we became bitter. This child of Quakers had been elected as the peace candidate and after he tricked us in the 1968 election he continued to prosecute a war which by that time just about everybody knew was pointless and vicious. He then invented a &#8220;silent majority&#8221; of imaginary friends to agree with him. This along with his marvelously amoral &#8220;Southern Strategy&#8221; created new and bitter divisions along class and race. I was drafted into years of pointless, degrading military service and even though my friends were coming home in body bags, fear was not what I was feeling.  I hated Nixon then and for the sake of history and for the sake of my wasted friends I still hate him now.</p>
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		<title>By: Closer to 60 than 50</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/viewing-the-1960s-from-my-60s/comment-page-2/#comment-30783</link>
		<dc:creator>Closer to 60 than 50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of this is, like “Viewing the 60s From My 60s”, generational claptrap from those who have yet to make their mark and earn their way as opposed to those who believe that we should have remained in some fantasy of the 50s.  

The fact is that most of us boomers had parents who were of the Great Depression, possibly saved the world from totalitarianism, and raised us under the daily fear of nuclear annihilation with the expectation that we would still work hard and be successful.  (Of course, all of the sex, booze, drugs and swing music of their youth were supposed to be a secret.)

As the 60s and early 70s unfolded, we fought an unnecessary war based on mistaken assumptions in which over 58,000 of us died.  My Mother cried for three days when I was drafted the year after her baby brother came home all shot up.  

We partied as they did in their youth.  We too feared that we could not afford to keep them in their old age.  We too feared that we would not have the money to retire.
Well, we were all wrong. My parents have an active, affluent retirement still, in their 80s.  

We boomers came home, got educated, went back to church and worked hard.  My wife and I made and contributed more money to more causes than ever before this year.  Our children are grown, with productive lives.

My wife and our friends talk about retirement soon.  Not of rocking chairs and porch swings.  We talk of taking care of our parents, second carriers or starting businesses.  We talk of travel, vacation homes and health care. 

We will not be a burden to the generation after.  We will make you rich.  In our “retirement” we will create jobs for you and purchase countless goods and services from you. 

We have built on and will continue to build on the wealth that our parents created.  Your challenge will be to build on that which you inherit from us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of this is, like “Viewing the 60s From My 60s”, generational claptrap from those who have yet to make their mark and earn their way as opposed to those who believe that we should have remained in some fantasy of the 50s.  </p>
<p>The fact is that most of us boomers had parents who were of the Great Depression, possibly saved the world from totalitarianism, and raised us under the daily fear of nuclear annihilation with the expectation that we would still work hard and be successful.  (Of course, all of the sex, booze, drugs and swing music of their youth were supposed to be a secret.)</p>
<p>As the 60s and early 70s unfolded, we fought an unnecessary war based on mistaken assumptions in which over 58,000 of us died.  My Mother cried for three days when I was drafted the year after her baby brother came home all shot up.  </p>
<p>We partied as they did in their youth.  We too feared that we could not afford to keep them in their old age.  We too feared that we would not have the money to retire.<br />
Well, we were all wrong. My parents have an active, affluent retirement still, in their 80s.  </p>
<p>We boomers came home, got educated, went back to church and worked hard.  My wife and I made and contributed more money to more causes than ever before this year.  Our children are grown, with productive lives.</p>
<p>My wife and our friends talk about retirement soon.  Not of rocking chairs and porch swings.  We talk of taking care of our parents, second carriers or starting businesses.  We talk of travel, vacation homes and health care. </p>
<p>We will not be a burden to the generation after.  We will make you rich.  In our “retirement” we will create jobs for you and purchase countless goods and services from you. </p>
<p>We have built on and will continue to build on the wealth that our parents created.  Your challenge will be to build on that which you inherit from us.</p>
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		<title>By: Boinkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of us weren&#039;t the spoiled kids of the sixties. My cousins fought in &#039;Nam, and I was busy in medical school.

The split in that generation can be seen in films like Rambo, and in the bitterness against the &quot;anti war movement&quot; that ridiculed returning soldiers and congratulated themselves for being for peace while Pol Pot killed a million people and VietNam ethnically cleansed their Chinese population (quick: how many boomers know about the Chinese-Viet Nam war?).

The press, which are the first group, support Obama.
The others, the quiet ones who stayed sober and grew up, will support McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us weren&#8217;t the spoiled kids of the sixties. My cousins fought in &#8216;Nam, and I was busy in medical school.</p>
<p>The split in that generation can be seen in films like Rambo, and in the bitterness against the &#8220;anti war movement&#8221; that ridiculed returning soldiers and congratulated themselves for being for peace while Pol Pot killed a million people and VietNam ethnically cleansed their Chinese population (quick: how many boomers know about the Chinese-Viet Nam war?).</p>
<p>The press, which are the first group, support Obama.<br />
The others, the quiet ones who stayed sober and grew up, will support McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: jw</title>
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		<dc:creator>jw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 07:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The babyboomers may have been attention-seekers because there were so many of them after World War II, that the schools were overcrowded.  That plus the glamorizing of drugs, the praising of awful behavior - like Norman Mailer, Allan Ginsberg with his false complaints and narcissism (&quot;Howl&quot;), Communist organization and propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The babyboomers may have been attention-seekers because there were so many of them after World War II, that the schools were overcrowded.  That plus the glamorizing of drugs, the praising of awful behavior &#8211; like Norman Mailer, Allan Ginsberg with his false complaints and narcissism (&#8221;Howl&#8221;), Communist organization and propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: patruped:bun biped:rău : Ecouri din 68 (2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>patruped:bun biped:rău : Ecouri din 68 (2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cu acurateţe gîndurile şi faptele tinerelor porcine americane din anii şaizeci.  În original: Viewing the 1960s From My 60s &#8212; Pajamas Media  &#160;Print    Posted by emil on Luni, Aprilie 14, 2008, at 9:46 pm, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] cu acurateţe gîndurile şi faptele tinerelor porcine americane din anii şaizeci.  În original: Viewing the 1960s From My 60s &#8212; Pajamas Media  &nbsp;Print    Posted by emil on Luni, Aprilie 14, 2008, at 9:46 pm, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Teri Pittman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teri Pittman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get so tired of this idea that boomers were the most pampered generation ever. Perhaps it&#039;s because I was raised by a single mom back when that was uncommon. Frankly, the whole boomer thing was a marketing image. There was a certain amount of shared interests but honestly, not everyone was part of it. If I hadn&#039;t been exposed to California in the 60s, I likely wouldn&#039;t have been part of it either.  There are a lot of us that woke up to the lies we were fed in those days. We&#039;ve got a few years on us now. It&#039;s going to be tough to turn things around, but it&#039;s not too late if we work together. We can do that if folks will just stop bashing us for the decade we were born into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get so tired of this idea that boomers were the most pampered generation ever. Perhaps it&#8217;s because I was raised by a single mom back when that was uncommon. Frankly, the whole boomer thing was a marketing image. There was a certain amount of shared interests but honestly, not everyone was part of it. If I hadn&#8217;t been exposed to California in the 60s, I likely wouldn&#8217;t have been part of it either.  There are a lot of us that woke up to the lies we were fed in those days. We&#8217;ve got a few years on us now. It&#8217;s going to be tough to turn things around, but it&#8217;s not too late if we work together. We can do that if folks will just stop bashing us for the decade we were born into.</p>
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		<title>By: Bugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a late-Boomer (1960), I&#039;d say I suffer from some of the &quot;narcissism&quot; that people talk about - only I&#039;d call it something more like &quot;unrealistic expectations.&quot; I think I believed my parents&#039; standard of living, of which I partook, was just the way things were. You go to school, get a job doing something you&#039;re really interested in, somebody pays you a lot of money, and there you are - middle class. It was supposed to be a natural process. It was never really emphasized that this process involved a lot of hard work, self-denial, patience, ass-kissing, and other unpleasant things, and it still contained a real risk of failure. I think my father tried to tell me. I didn&#039;t listen - I thought he was &quot;killing my dreams&quot; or something. 

Well, now I work at a relatively crappy job I don&#039;t like and all my &quot;dreams&quot; are just hobbies or pathetic nostalgia. I did not do as well as my parents because I did not put as much planning and work and discipline into the process as I should have. However, I recognize the failure as mine, not my parents&#039;. I don&#039;t expect anyone else to pick up the tab. No feeling I&#039;m entitled to retire on the public dime, thanks. My biggest fear right now is not being old, it&#039;s being useless. To me, someone who has done as little as I have has no right to retire. You have to put something into the system before you get to take out. So I&#039;m hoping the second half of my life - the wiser half - will be more productive than the first. Don&#039;t count this boomer out yet. I&#039;m not one for following the crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a late-Boomer (1960), I&#8217;d say I suffer from some of the &#8220;narcissism&#8221; that people talk about &#8211; only I&#8217;d call it something more like &#8220;unrealistic expectations.&#8221; I think I believed my parents&#8217; standard of living, of which I partook, was just the way things were. You go to school, get a job doing something you&#8217;re really interested in, somebody pays you a lot of money, and there you are &#8211; middle class. It was supposed to be a natural process. It was never really emphasized that this process involved a lot of hard work, self-denial, patience, ass-kissing, and other unpleasant things, and it still contained a real risk of failure. I think my father tried to tell me. I didn&#8217;t listen &#8211; I thought he was &#8220;killing my dreams&#8221; or something. </p>
<p>Well, now I work at a relatively crappy job I don&#8217;t like and all my &#8220;dreams&#8221; are just hobbies or pathetic nostalgia. I did not do as well as my parents because I did not put as much planning and work and discipline into the process as I should have. However, I recognize the failure as mine, not my parents&#8217;. I don&#8217;t expect anyone else to pick up the tab. No feeling I&#8217;m entitled to retire on the public dime, thanks. My biggest fear right now is not being old, it&#8217;s being useless. To me, someone who has done as little as I have has no right to retire. You have to put something into the system before you get to take out. So I&#8217;m hoping the second half of my life &#8211; the wiser half &#8211; will be more productive than the first. Don&#8217;t count this boomer out yet. I&#8217;m not one for following the crowd.</p>
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