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		<title>By: CHUCK</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/was-terrorism-behind-air-france-crash/comment-page-2/#comment-304361</link>
		<dc:creator>CHUCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THEY FLEW RIGHT INTO A STORM AND THE PLANE CAME APART WHEN THEY DISREGARDED THE AUTOPILOT. THE FROZEN PITOT TUBES CONTRIBUTED TO THE PILOT&#039;S LACK OF CARE. AFTER ALL, ARE WE TO BELIEVE THAT THE TERRORISTS KNEW 2 WEEKS AHEAD (WHEN THE BOMB THREAT CAME IN) THAT THERE WOULD BE HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ON THE NIGHT OF 447&#039;S FLIGHT? GIMME A BREAK. EVEN SHERLOCK HOLMES WOULD LAUGH AT THAT ONE. REGARDING ISLAMIC SOUNDING NAMES, FACT IS MUSLIMS VERY COMMONLY HAVE THE SAME FIRST TWO NAMES AS DO CHRISTIANS, IT IS THE THIRD THAT INDICATES FAMILY. SO ANOTHER THEORY SQUASHED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THEY FLEW RIGHT INTO A STORM AND THE PLANE CAME APART WHEN THEY DISREGARDED THE AUTOPILOT. THE FROZEN PITOT TUBES CONTRIBUTED TO THE PILOT&#8217;S LACK OF CARE. AFTER ALL, ARE WE TO BELIEVE THAT THE TERRORISTS KNEW 2 WEEKS AHEAD (WHEN THE BOMB THREAT CAME IN) THAT THERE WOULD BE HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ON THE NIGHT OF 447&#8242;S FLIGHT? GIMME A BREAK. EVEN SHERLOCK HOLMES WOULD LAUGH AT THAT ONE. REGARDING ISLAMIC SOUNDING NAMES, FACT IS MUSLIMS VERY COMMONLY HAVE THE SAME FIRST TWO NAMES AS DO CHRISTIANS, IT IS THE THIRD THAT INDICATES FAMILY. SO ANOTHER THEORY SQUASHED.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this was an act of terror, then it&#039;s a perfect crime, with a crime scene that will never be truly investigated. That&#039;s the problem with massive explosions and suicide bombers, there&#039;s not enough left to piece together the entire crime. I will say that there has been no publicly acclaimed chatter regarding this flight. But you also have to consider that Obama is somewhat of a loose cannon and the people in charge of these missions don&#039;t know which way he will jump in terms of control or retaliation. Perhaps this was just a shot across the bow to France to allow more sharia law and more immigration of radical Muslims into the country. Or maybe it was just bad luck.
We will never know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this was an act of terror, then it&#8217;s a perfect crime, with a crime scene that will never be truly investigated. That&#8217;s the problem with massive explosions and suicide bombers, there&#8217;s not enough left to piece together the entire crime. I will say that there has been no publicly acclaimed chatter regarding this flight. But you also have to consider that Obama is somewhat of a loose cannon and the people in charge of these missions don&#8217;t know which way he will jump in terms of control or retaliation. Perhaps this was just a shot across the bow to France to allow more sharia law and more immigration of radical Muslims into the country. Or maybe it was just bad luck.<br />
We will never know.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not correct, Marie Claude...

What they said is that they haven&#039;t SEEN evidence of fire or explosion on board.  They have recovered little of the aircraft, and a small explosion in a critical area could have brought the plane down.  On the other hand, sudden loss of the vertical and horizontal stabilizers (à la Long Island) could have quickly brought the plane down. 

The &quot;sudden fall&quot; reported by the automatic system is only speculation...  There was a quite rapid loss of cabin pressure, that was reported automatically as a &quot;rapid loss of cabin-altitude&quot;  The plane could have remained at the same real altitude, but because the structure was compromised it lost pressure inside the aircraft.  

Bottom line... we just don&#039;t know what happened on-board, and won&#039;t really know until the flight recorders are (we hope) recovered and analyzed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not correct, Marie Claude&#8230;</p>
<p>What they said is that they haven&#8217;t SEEN evidence of fire or explosion on board.  They have recovered little of the aircraft, and a small explosion in a critical area could have brought the plane down.  On the other hand, sudden loss of the vertical and horizontal stabilizers (à la Long Island) could have quickly brought the plane down. </p>
<p>The &#8220;sudden fall&#8221; reported by the automatic system is only speculation&#8230;  There was a quite rapid loss of cabin pressure, that was reported automatically as a &#8220;rapid loss of cabin-altitude&#8221;  The plane could have remained at the same real altitude, but because the structure was compromised it lost pressure inside the aircraft.  </p>
<p>Bottom line&#8230; we just don&#8217;t know what happened on-board, and won&#8217;t really know until the flight recorders are (we hope) recovered and analyzed.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://bit.ly/oP0S1

no explosion according to experts, but a sudden fall

«J&#039;ai vu la paroi qui sépare l&#039;endroit où se trouve l&#039;équipage pour préparer les repas et le compartiment des passagers, a confié au journal l&#039;ex-pilote. Des fauteuils y étaient fixés. Ce qui est curieux, c&#039;est que ces fauteuils doubles, utilisés exclusivement par l&#039;équipage étaient repliés. Ils sont bien plus fins que ceux des passagers et sur les photos, on voit les ceintures de sécurité qui pendent. Cela suggère que l&#039;équipage circulait dans les couloirs de l&#039;avion. En cas de signal d&#039;alerte ou de l&#039;imminence d&#039;un risque quelconque, l&#039;équipage serait resté assis à sa place». «Ils n&#039;ont eu le temps de rien faire», a souligné Ari Germano, qui a aussi reconnu une malette orange intacte de kit de premiers secours.&quot;</description>
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<p>no explosion according to experts, but a sudden fall</p>
<p>«J&#8217;ai vu la paroi qui sépare l&#8217;endroit où se trouve l&#8217;équipage pour préparer les repas et le compartiment des passagers, a confié au journal l&#8217;ex-pilote. Des fauteuils y étaient fixés. Ce qui est curieux, c&#8217;est que ces fauteuils doubles, utilisés exclusivement par l&#8217;équipage étaient repliés. Ils sont bien plus fins que ceux des passagers et sur les photos, on voit les ceintures de sécurité qui pendent. Cela suggère que l&#8217;équipage circulait dans les couloirs de l&#8217;avion. En cas de signal d&#8217;alerte ou de l&#8217;imminence d&#8217;un risque quelconque, l&#8217;équipage serait resté assis à sa place». «Ils n&#8217;ont eu le temps de rien faire», a souligné Ari Germano, qui a aussi reconnu une malette orange intacte de kit de premiers secours.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Self-hating Boomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Self-hating Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a new report out of Brazil that they found 16 naked bodies. This strongly suggests that the plane suffered structural failure at altitude.

The fly-by-wire failure theory can be put to bed. This leaves four possibilities:

1) A bomb.
2) A spontaneous structural failure
3) An extreme hail event
4) Spooky unexplained explosion a la TWA 800

Just to refresh everyone&#039;s memory, there never was a definite determination of the cause of TWA 800. The official report mumbled something about an electrical short, but it never actually claimed that to be the certain cause. To this day, there&#039;s no certain explanation.

If I had to bet money, I know which one I&#039;d bet on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a new report out of Brazil that they found 16 naked bodies. This strongly suggests that the plane suffered structural failure at altitude.</p>
<p>The fly-by-wire failure theory can be put to bed. This leaves four possibilities:</p>
<p>1) A bomb.<br />
2) A spontaneous structural failure<br />
3) An extreme hail event<br />
4) Spooky unexplained explosion a la TWA 800</p>
<p>Just to refresh everyone&#8217;s memory, there never was a definite determination of the cause of TWA 800. The official report mumbled something about an electrical short, but it never actually claimed that to be the certain cause. To this day, there&#8217;s no certain explanation.</p>
<p>If I had to bet money, I know which one I&#8217;d bet on.</p>
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		<title>By: Still_Kickin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Still_Kickin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CUBA:  Your are correct. No one claimed jack after Pan Am was bombed over Lockerbie.  The bomb was supposed to go off over the ocean but Pan Am left late.

If Air France let people on board who were listed as terrorists then either it was an inside job or something is very lax with security.

I feel so sorry for those who were killed and their families. 
 
Here&#039;s hoping that they find the black box.  I hope it was not terrorism, but today&#039;s world is so nuts that it might have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CUBA:  Your are correct. No one claimed jack after Pan Am was bombed over Lockerbie.  The bomb was supposed to go off over the ocean but Pan Am left late.</p>
<p>If Air France let people on board who were listed as terrorists then either it was an inside job or something is very lax with security.</p>
<p>I feel so sorry for those who were killed and their families. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that they find the black box.  I hope it was not terrorism, but today&#8217;s world is so nuts that it might have been.</p>
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		<title>By: Chazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aero engineer and ex-military pilot,  I’m going 90% probability with the terrorist/sabotage angle, mainly because there were no pilot radio transmissions, even as ACARS reports were going out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aero engineer and ex-military pilot,  I’m going 90% probability with the terrorist/sabotage angle, mainly because there were no pilot radio transmissions, even as ACARS reports were going out.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the post #53 unfortunately fell in the wrong place it was ment in the above thread about anti, anti etc..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the post #53 unfortunately fell in the wrong place it was ment in the above thread about anti, anti etc..</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Airbus, last I checked, was 100% owned by EADS. France has a significant holding in EADS (last I saw, the Government owned 15%). As a major shareholder, I’d think they might have an economic interest in keeping Airbus afloat.&quot;

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2007/september/tradoc_136046.pdf

uh I forgot to check for the army and the Nato members (before that France came in) who are forced to buy normalised American&#039;s

yeah Airbus, Northrop Grumman win Air Force tanker contract, too bad it costed less than Boeing as a finished product,d&#039;ya know that most of the Boeing pieces are manufacured in Europe ? and thus increase the cost of manufacturing a Boeing ? Nevermnd the army, Nasa... will pay the maximum, some kind of state disguised sponsoring ! but isn&#039;t it funny that Boeing made all that noise against the army purchase of  Airbus Tankers ?  that the army wanted so dearly ! but cancelled, ya ought to buy american and sponsorise it !

so don&#039;t tell me that France hides some infos about a defectuous product ! (anyway it&#039;s an european consortium, then again did the Brits, the german, the spanish hide some truths ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Airbus, last I checked, was 100% owned by EADS. France has a significant holding in EADS (last I saw, the Government owned 15%). As a major shareholder, I’d think they might have an economic interest in keeping Airbus afloat.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2007/september/tradoc_136046.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2007/september/tradoc_136046.pdf</a></p>
<p>uh I forgot to check for the army and the Nato members (before that France came in) who are forced to buy normalised American&#8217;s</p>
<p>yeah Airbus, Northrop Grumman win Air Force tanker contract, too bad it costed less than Boeing as a finished product,d&#8217;ya know that most of the Boeing pieces are manufacured in Europe ? and thus increase the cost of manufacturing a Boeing ? Nevermnd the army, Nasa&#8230; will pay the maximum, some kind of state disguised sponsoring ! but isn&#8217;t it funny that Boeing made all that noise against the army purchase of  Airbus Tankers ?  that the army wanted so dearly ! but cancelled, ya ought to buy american and sponsorise it !</p>
<p>so don&#8217;t tell me that France hides some infos about a defectuous product ! (anyway it&#8217;s an european consortium, then again did the Brits, the german, the spanish hide some truths ?</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t search further on, the very antisemits are the FWENCH
at least it&#039;s what it is said here 

http://tinyurl.com/lkua6r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t search further on, the very antisemits are the FWENCH<br />
at least it&#8217;s what it is said here </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/lkua6r" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/lkua6r</a></p>
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