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1. ashok:

Agreed entirely with your thoughts, but will say that it is a scary day indeed when Joe Biden is one of the few who actually might see things correctly.

Feb 10, 2009 - 1:01 am 2. Marc Malone:

It’s not that Biden is truly stupid. He’s just mentally lazy. He has much experience and he knows stuff, but there are just too many gaps in his knowledge, so he bluffs his way through, rather than learn.

Think of the campaign: no place for on-the-job training; Obama will be tested; clean, good-looking black man. Sometimes he nails it.

Feb 10, 2009 - 2:39 am 3. Walt Phoenix AZ:

Very well written Pam, the scariest thing to me is that so very few of people see the hand writing on the wall. It’s like watching an Obama, Reid and Pelosi train wreck in slow motion and we are tied up in the mid of the tracks waiting for the mess to hit us.

Feb 10, 2009 - 2:57 am 4. Marc Malone:

What’s really ridiculous are the bailouts. These guys raided their own companies and broke their piggybanks. This screwed over the stock market, and all the 100+M people with investments in it. Now, the government is colluding again with those companies to bail them out. They are using the money from the same taxpayers who just lost their shirts to these guys. These suckers got raped once, and now they’re being raped again, or maybe it’s their kids getting raped, now. Man, but people are STUPID!

Feb 10, 2009 - 3:23 am 5. Sara for America:

I always thought the peanut butter and jelly thing was funny. Do you think that’s the normal lunch for kids at an Indonesian madrassa?

Feb 10, 2009 - 3:25 am 6. RE:

Obama and the Democrat party are really no different than drug pushers.

As the Western European nations have shown us, The product Obama and he Dems offer ultimately strips societies of the will to live and turns its individuals into soulless sheep that are both parasites and hosts at the same time, their human spirit crushed by oppressive nanny state bureaucracy.

Astute people will be taking steps towards self reliance. When the nanny state shows up your doorstep to extort your compliance in the same way that the Russians turn off Europe’s natural gas supply, the ideal would be to say ‘Go ahead, make my day’. So people should be taking inventory right now – identifying the ties that bind and taking concrete steps to break them, insulating ourselves as best we can from the dystopia some have planned for us.

Once again we are repeating history and we are replaying the scene where Eve is reaching for the apple and the adage “You don’t know what you’ve got – until you lose it”.

The old Steppenwolf lyrics capture it well:

I said God d*mn, God d*mn The Pusher man

Shun the drug pusher. Compromise with that evil and you will surely lose.

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:05 am 7. Bilgeman:

Ms. Meister:

“Despite his support for the bill, Joe Biden is one of the few who see the potential for voter backlash”

And that’s about the extent of Joe Biden’s thought process.

In a way, this IS pretty funny,(in a darkly ironic way), since corporate America has been hedging its’ bets and throwing as much money at Democratic candidates as it has at Republicans.

They then come to Washington with their hat in their hands for the Big Fat Handout, and they get the money with a nasty Marxist topping poured all over it shoved down their throats.

And the Veep helping to do this is one of their favorite butt-boys from the state of the union where most of their corporations are registered…Delaware.

Farming, sport-fishing, a few beaches, and corporate registration fees…toss in the food court/rest stop on I-95, and you’ve basically got the Delaware economy.

I’m surprised that Biden hasn’t been kennelled by the Obama people. I mean look at him…he pops up in Williamsburg, VA and then thinks that he’s Thomas Jefferson or something.

At least he oughta be good for a few badly-needed yuks while we’re standing in line down at the government soup-kitchen.

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:41 am 8. Bilgeman:

“We’ve got to make sure that people who have more money help the people who have less money. If you had a whole pizza, and your friend had no pizza, would you give him a slice?”-Barak Obama

I once ordered a pizza.

When it came I offered a slice to some guy who looked a lot like “Mr. Tuvok” from “Star Trek-Voyager”.

http://www.starfleet-knights.com/Pictures/tuvok.jpg

He took a slice, and passed the box around to people he thought needed some pizza too.

These were folks called “ACORN” and “AFL-CIO”, and THEY all passed the pizza around to people who THEY thought needed some pizza.

They all had some pizza, and seemed to be happy. When I finally found the pizza again, there was nothing left but an empty box.

And the “Mr Tuvok”-looking fellow told me not to litter and to dispose of my trash properly in the recycling bin.

The moral of this story is that Vulcans don’t share very well unless you have a funny-sounding name.

Feb 10, 2009 - 4:54 am 9. LeftWingandBrave:

A progressive, forward-think society will take care of all members of the community, not just the rich ones.

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:37 am 10. Ratatosk:

A) The US has never had truly Free Markets.
B) A Free Market, in order to operate, requires responsible buyers and sellers. If the participants in a Free Market are not responsible, the system will fail.’
C) American companies and consumers have not only been irresponsible… they’ve been downright idiotic when it comes to running business and buying stuff. Capitalism is based on Capital. Our economy is based on Credit. Capitalism is about competition for customers… with the better products winning out. Our economy is based on who can show the most flashy commercial, doesn’t really matter if their product falls apart soon afterward.

In short, this is not the DEATH OF THE FREE MARKET because it doesn’t exist anymore.

Point your rage at the “capitalists” and the “consumers” for acting like spoiled lazy children, not at the fools in Washington who are, yet again, being told to FIX something that we broke. Otherwise, this will just continue.

However, if its easier to point at the Dems or GOP as the boogyman, so you don’t have to look in the mirror… well, thats fine.

But, I’d bet Obama didn’t force anyone to sign a mortgage they couldn’t pay for. I bet Biden didn’t tell Ford to make sure and build huge SUV’s that get bad gas mileage. I’d even bet that Pelosi didn’t say to the corporations, “How about you run your business into the ground and when we give you some money to help… spend it on Bonuses for yourselves.

But, blame them. I’m sure they don’t mind.

Feb 10, 2009 - 6:00 am 11. Cybergeezer:

So, being a “Campaigner in Chief” makes you capable of “creating” a nation of “governed” individuals that can be leaders in the world economy?
HARDLY; Look at the EU. Perhaps the “Campaigner in Chief” wants to change our currency to the Euro, too. Incompetency on parade.

Feb 10, 2009 - 6:25 am 12. seven:

Obama is really a bold piece of work.

Indiana yesterday. What a fool. He is sloganeering in a town loaded with factories that make large rv’s and motorhomes. They went from 4% unemployment to 15% in a year. He has told us he will torture builders of gas hogs. Is there going to be a solar powered motorhome?

Gas prices and interest rates hurt them as will environmental laws. They will not convert to ethanol. His socialist mandates will have long term damage to Indian Rv factories. What nerve. country wide left wholesale and retail rv financing and house trailor loans several years ago. Obama has no idea what that industry is about other than rappers driving the largest bus type units. If he wants to help Indian, someone said “drill baby drill”. She had the answer for rv builders. With gas low, there are winter sales to snow birds. There is enough inventory and it will be there for a while.

Feb 10, 2009 - 6:48 am 13. goy:

Pam, the salary cap all by itself is indeed unconstitutional, which is the reason for all of the legislation’s attendant loopholes that effectively negate the cap itself by providing numerous ways for management and stockholders to get around it.

The salary cap is in fact the very height of mendacity, in that the government is primarily responsible for fomenting public anger toward CEOs who are simply being paid according to their contracts (I haven’t noticed any particular animus toward the Boards of Directors who approve these salaries and bonuses). BHO now addresses that manufactured anger – falsely – with a stentorian demand for “salary caps” which will do nothing to actually cap the salaries of those he’s demonized.

Mendacity, corruption, hypocrisy, double standards and politics of fear – pretty impressive for only three weeks’ work. I think it took the entrenched media months to pin all those on the Bush Administration – and they had to lie to do it.

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:05 am 14. AnninCA:

Apparently, Geithner is putting the kibosh on the Draconian measures recommended by Axelrod. I agree with your mother, btw. I do not believe that some of the suggestions would have passed the legal test.

Frank’s suggestions that more oversight be in place as well as powers to stop the Banks from excessive risk is fine. There’s one small problem. Nobody understood the degree of the risks being taken, apparently. Bush asked for help, got none from Democrats. So mhy question is exactly who will be overseeing?

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:18 am 15. Войска ПВО:

#6 RE:, thank you for the memories. Another appropriate excerpt from that piece:

You know, I’ve seen a lot of people walkin’ ’round
With tombstones in their eyes
But the pusher don’t care
Ah, if you live or if you die

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:18 am 16. Bilgeman:

#10 Ratatosk:

“I’d bet Obama didn’t force anyone to sign a mortgage they couldn’t pay for.”

Cute, but misleading. What Obama DID do was force Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make funds available to lenders who let those unaffordable mortgages. The “forcing” was done at the other side of the closing table.
…do you remember at all the “redlining” scandal? It was a useful meme in it’s day, like “exit strategy” and “how do we pay for the tax cut?” back in their times, now also condemned to inhabit that place of discarded Democratic Sound-Bites crafted to stir up the mouth-breathers.

“I bet Biden didn’t tell Ford to make sure and build huge SUV’s that get bad gas mileage.”

It may have escaped your notice, but Ford is the ONE nominally US Automaker who isn’t wheedling Uncle Sam for a loan.

And this may further surprise you, but those “SUV”s are what people want to buy.

You dopn’t suppose that Ford’s vastly better financial situation than it’s competitors has ANYTHING to do with it’s philosophy of building and selling vehicles that folks actually WANT, do you?

“I’d even bet that Pelosi didn’t say to the corporations, “How about you run your business into the ground and when we give you some money to help… spend it on Bonuses for yourselves.”

Actually, she and her ilk did EXACTLY that.

The Pelosi side of the Democratic Party were all in favor of the CAFE standards, which were set by the Federal government and is the law that DIRECTLY was the basis for the “SUV” and MiniVan market niche…Mini Vans and SUV’s are “Trucks” under CAFE, and thus are not counted in the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards. They are ersatz “station wagons”…y’see? This is why Lee Iaccoca made millions, and the Plymouth Voyager, along with the Jeep Cherokee saved Chrysler.

“The US has never had truly Free Markets.”

True.

“A Free Market, in order to operate, requires responsible buyers and sellers. If the participants in a Free Market are not responsible, the system will fail.’”

Untrue. A Free Market requires humans, disposable income, and differences in perceived value. The “responsibility” or otherwise of the participants is a subjective moral judgement on YOUR part.

If you live in a major metro area served by public transportation, a 4 wheel drive SUV may not be very valuable to you as opposed to a small hybrid, but if you lived in a rural setting in the snow belt, then your perceptions would probably be reversed.

“American companies and consumers have not only been irresponsible… they’ve been downright idiotic when it comes to running business and buying stuff.”

Well, if you live in Brooklyn, and insist on driving a Cadillac Escalade, I’d agree that’s pretty idiotic.(Good Luck with the parking!).
It would be as idiotic as the fellow trying to haul a few cords of firewood out to his farmhouse using his Prius, wouldn’t it? (Glad you’re getting such great gas mileage for the sixty round trips you’ll need to make!)

Perhaps you should ruminate on the idea that not all Americans live where you do and face a uniform set of life circumstances.

The problem with the Democrats in Federal Office is that they usually want to impose ONE BIG ANSWER to all the problems of the World.

And that ONE BIG ANSWER is usually RIGHT for one and WRONG for the rest.

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:35 am 17. marsouin:

Once the New Deal Supreme Court flushed the Founder’s Constitution down the toilet in the 30’s, we began our gradual shift from a liberal democracy to a social democracy. We are now in the final stages of the transformation, and thus no longer resemble the nation of 1787. If you want to see America’s future, look to continental Europe.

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:49 am 18. Войска ПВО:

#6 RE writes:

“The old Steppenwolf lyrics capture it well:

I said God d*mn, God d*mn The Pusher man”

..also your reminiscences put me in mind of a snippet of a Dylan song from that movie:

“Our preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits
Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates
But even the President of the United States
Sometimes must have to stand naked..”

Feb 10, 2009 - 8:28 am 19. marsouin:

#9
“A progressive, forward-think society will take care of all members of the community, not just the rich ones.”

Yes, it is so evident after 50 years of socialist control of our major cities: peace, love, understanding, and respect for individual rights are found with abundance.

Feb 10, 2009 - 9:02 am 20. Two Dogs:

Pam, of course there are no thinking people alive that think this huge power grab is a good idea, but where were those people when Bush did not veto a single spending bill until the Morons took Congress in January of 2007?

Yes, Republican voters are much more intelligent than Democrat voters, but Republicans are only marginally better at legislation than Democrats.

We simply MUST return to a point of disallowing those to vote that have a vested interest in big government and redistribution of income.

Feb 10, 2009 - 9:15 am 21. joe buzz:

Would anybody consider this plan by a Democrat from Idaho:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/freshman-blue-dog-offers-a-new-start/

Feb 10, 2009 - 9:25 am 22. J. Rockford:

Anyone who made the slightest effort to look at the history of Barack Hussein Obama — and not just listen to his rhetoric — would have understood that he is a left-wing radical — a socialist. Now he, along with Reid and Pelosi, are implementing directives and passing legislation that will move this country from free market capitalism to socialism. And ensure that they and their kind will never lose their political power. And people are surprised? People talk like it can be stopped? Get real. This is just the beginning of a long, irreversible decline. It’s over. I’m 50, have lived a good life, and won’t be affected much, but my kids — they have lost what could have been. I’m amazed that it could happen so soon — only 20 years after the Reagan Administration and 15 years after the Republicans won the house. I only hope the foolish, ignorant masses that voted for him lose just as much as everyone else will.

Feb 10, 2009 - 9:33 am 23. goy:

@14. AnninCA: - Nobody understood the degree of the risks being taken, apparently. Bush asked for help, got none from Democrats. So mhy question is exactly who will be overseeing?

This is a good question, and unfortunately we already know the answer. All we need to do is look at how the first $350B in TARP funds was distributed, shotgun-style, to any bank that claimed it needed a bailout, because we’re essentially talking about the same cast of criminals.

What did we get with TARP? No planning. No rationale. No preference given to institutions that would be in the best shape to offer credit after receiving funds. Instead they just pumped out money. The result? Most of that money is now sitting idle in accounts that balance previously insolvent banks’ books instead of finding its way into the economy via renewed lending. This is what happens when we ram through “emergency” legislation with no thought and no plan, justifying it by the need to “do something”.

Feb 10, 2009 - 10:08 am 24. Pam Meister:

Two Dogs, yes, you are correct…Bush’s “compassionate conservatism” is also to blame. Republicans have been big spenders over the past eight years. But the current situation is also being used as an excuse for a power grab that rivals even those of FDR and LBJ. That’s what makes it so scary.

And J. Rockford, yes, anyone who is familiar with BHO’s past would know. Unfortunately, the majority of the people did NOT know, thanks to the cover-up by the press. Now we’re reaping the, er, benefits.

Feb 10, 2009 - 10:12 am 25. Tantor:

usa is broke, don’t you understand?!?

Feb 10, 2009 - 10:32 am 26. Rachel Peepers:

Last night, B. Hussein had a dream.

He was sitting on the top of a rocket that was taking him up,up and away to a land where class warfare was to become the order of the day. Where no public or private executive may make more than be fair shouted B. Hussein.

U.S. wealth would be redistributed and America would like it.

As soon as he got off one rocket, he hopped onto another, in this case, the spending rocket, carrying a payload of more than a trillion dollars.

As soon as it took off, Barack found himself back in the Oval Office. Seated in the two chairs in front of his desk were pigs. He left the room, and discovered pigs were running through the halls with staffers chasing them. Once caught, staffers were kissing them. B. Hussein then turned on his 60 inch flat TV where breaking news on all networks was showing pigs running free all over the United States. They were on golf courses, at frisby parks, inside big, gas guzzling new cars that White House staffers were buying.

Though the public was concerned about the pigs, Barack decided to let them prosper and multiply.

And decided to ask Michelle, his own private porker, to issue an executive order that from thence forth, pork would always be on the White House menu.

It was then that Barack woke up from his afternoon catnap to be told by his chief of staff that the Stimulus Bill had passed in the senate.

Feb 10, 2009 - 10:33 am 27. joe buzz:

Yahsah, we got us some Do-Do Economics going on and the POTUS doesn’t even know what an earmark or pork barrel spending is. Ether that or he misspoke a couple of times last night.

Feb 10, 2009 - 11:09 am 28. BMoon:

“If pigs could vote, the swineherd would get elected every time, no matter how much slaughtering he was doing on the side.”

Congratulations, America. Go eat your slop.

Feb 10, 2009 - 11:10 am 29. joe buzz:

ACORN is going to be extremely flush with cash come 2011 and 2012. Just in time to buy tons of votes for the next election. How does one get a job with ACORN? We need to get some eyes and ears inside that nut.

Feb 10, 2009 - 11:13 am 30. Cybergeezer:

The “Campaigner in Chief” is engaging in Economic Terrorism. And saying that he has the only cure!

Feb 10, 2009 - 11:31 am 31. Still Bill:

I’m not surprised by the vote, but I’m glad that only three RINO’s voted for it. Olympia Snowe has the IQ of a small lemon, and Susan Collins has the IQ of a really, really, small lemon. I thought Barbara Boxer was the dumbest U.S Senator stealing my hard-earned money, but that prize now goes to Susan Collins. As far as Arlen Specter is concerned, he is what he has always been: a Democrat rear-end kissing windbag.

Feb 10, 2009 - 11:33 am 32. kevIN:

I’m sick to my stomach… lies upon lies destroying the very foundations of America. I never thought I would say this – but is there anywhere else I can move to?

Feb 10, 2009 - 12:14 pm 33. Right Far Right:

All you dopes never figured out what got us here in the first place was unbridled greed

Feb 10, 2009 - 12:25 pm 34. Jake Was Here:

kevIN: I want to move too, but there’s nowhere safe.

I’m probably going to kill myself.

Feb 10, 2009 - 12:39 pm 35. goy:

- As far as Arlen Specter is concerned, he is what he has always been: a Democrat rear-end kissing windbag.

Maybe he can come up with a new Magic Bullet Theory™ that explains how this massive federal con job will NOT kill the economy and permanently damage the Republic along with it.

Feb 10, 2009 - 12:45 pm 36. goy:

@32. kevIN: Costa Rica.

It used to be a private joke between my wife and myself, but for the past four months it’s turned into a serious consideration.

All things being equal, I’d never move from a First to a Second World country (CR is considerably above Third World status). But it’s clear that the Dems plan to demolish America down to the studs so that they can rebuild it in the image of their god – the State. And no one else seems all that interested in trying to stop them. Spanish will be replacing English in the US in a few years, so you’re going to have to learn it anyway. Beyond that, the weather’s great, lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, and there are already plenty of gringos there to patronize. Plus you get your choice of Pacific or Caribbean beaches. Since we’re likely entering the beginning of the next mini-ice-age, that’s definitely a plus.

It’s getting to where the choice is either that or pick up a gun. And at this point I’m just too old for that.

Feb 10, 2009 - 1:06 pm 37. Ann-Marie:

Personally, I like the analogies. They may not always be spot-on, but I think it helps people identify with all the complexities that a stimulus plan entails. On CNN the other day, they were struggling to come up with some analogy to better explain what $1 trillion really is, since most of us can’t quite get our heads around it.

I also like the analogy of dog ownership and the economy from Dan Gilbert (the businessman, not the shrink). Just keepin’ it real…

Feb 10, 2009 - 1:09 pm 38. Jim Baker:

goy,
I have found a fairly remote place in the USA, which I can’t expose for obvious reasons, but I believe my choice will eventually be the gun. I am too old for that, too. But just maybe an old man can make a younger man think, if only he shows the resolve to protect what is left of his liberty. I hope to God I don’t live that long.

Feb 10, 2009 - 2:22 pm 39. john galtis the man:

Let me see-today in Tampa the first women ask Obamskank whining”I need a car”. GO BUY ONE,YOU STUPID WHINER. GET A JOB. EARN THE RIGHT TO A VEHICLE. Idiot #2 seems to beleive hes ENTITLED to get as much from UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION as he did when he was working. Hey IDIOT-HOW MANY CARS ARE YOU SELLING ON UNEMPLOYMENT IDIOT????? HOW MANY WASHERS/DRYERS YOU PRODUCING? Where may I ask do they FIND IDIOTS THIS STUPID????? I have always thought something was seriously wrong with a COMMUNIST “mentality”. These two USELESS IDIOTS in Tampa today and the IDIOT PRESIDENT who encourages this whining attitude prove it.

Feb 10, 2009 - 2:52 pm 40. Tennessee Volunteer:

Cherokee Village, Arkansas
-great people,house on the lake, awesome trout fishing, plenty of fresh vegetables, tyson chicken, plenty of beef, have to drive to Missouri for favorite beverage

Feb 10, 2009 - 2:56 pm 41. john galtis the man:

310-MR RATA (FIGURES) -OBAMASKANK DIDNT “FORCE” ANYONE TO PROVIDE A MORTGAGE-NEVER HEARD OF ACORN(AMERICAN COMMIES ON RED NUTCASES). IVE RECENTLY HEARD IN SPITE OF THE 4 BILLION FORM THE PORK COMMIE DEPENDENCY PACKAGE, COMMIE ACORN PLANS ABIG MARCH IN DC TO PROTEST THE BANKS WHO REFUSED TO TAKE PART IN THE GOVT BAILOUT FRAUD AND NOW WONT GIVE OUT MORTGAGES TO LOSERS LIKE PEGGY FROM FLORIDA(”NOW I DONT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING, BARAK WILL TAKE CARE OF ME FOREVER”-SURE). GUESS YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE COMMUNITY REINVESTEMENT ACT, WHERE THE GOVT FORCED BANKS TO GIVE OUT LOANS UNDER THREAT OF PROSECUTION(BROUGHT TO YOU BY MSSRS CAR-DUH AND BUBBA). BUT I DIGRESS-YOU PROBABLY HAVE NO CONCEPT OF WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. IM GUESSING YOUR ONE OF THOSE FOLKS WHO THINK THEY SHOULD GET AS MUCH ON WELFARE AS WHEN THEY WERE WORKING.

Feb 10, 2009 - 3:02 pm 42. BERLET98:

Stealth Health in the Stimulus

Rush Limbaugh may have been the first to go public with news of a feature of the stimulus bill buried deep in the bowels of its 778 pages that is far less stimulative and more consequential for Americans’ health than any other part of that monumental proposal.

The plan is to begin rationing medical care ala the U.K system in which patients are evaluated and a government bureaucrat determines if and when medical treatment is necessary.

“The bill’s health rules will affect ‘every individual in the United States’ (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. . . . One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and ‘guide’ your doctor’s decisions (442, 446).” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs.

National health care is on the way, folks, that same national health atrocity which Hillary tried to perpetrate on the American people in 1993. She flopped miserably but it’s baaaack!

The same types who run the Postal Service will be determining whether we really need that appendectomy, that stent, that transplant, that gall bladder surgery or whether it can wait a few months–by which time we may be dead which will save the system a bunch of money.

This afternoon (Tuesday, 2-10-09) Sen. Arlen Specter (nominally, a PA. Republican) told Fox News, “We are not going to let the federal government monitor what doctors do.”

Specter, one of only three Republicans to succumb to pressure and vote for Obama’s pork-laden, nearly-trillion dollar stimulus bill added, “This is one of a number of provisions that has popped up that we have to revise and be very careful about.” …

(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)

Feb 10, 2009 - 3:08 pm 43. Marc Malone:

#3 Right Far Right – Yes we know unbridled greed got us here. The question is, “Whose greed?” My money’s on the Dems.

Feb 10, 2009 - 3:31 pm 44. Jarhead:

I will wager that a year from now the theme will be “fiscal responsibility.” Code for raising taxes on everything and everyone.

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:16 pm 45. DaveinPhoenix:

I love the re-writers of history who come to these pages to tell us of “Bill Clinton’s” wonderful economy in the ’90’s. I think I’ve heard that 3 times today, and I’m fed up with it. So much for the brave House Republicans who reformed government operations and rules, wrote the balanced budgets and ultimately were destroyed with endless news stories about cuts in the school lunch program, government shutdown, and “draconian” cuts in Medicare. The cuts were actually reductions in the rate of growth. Republicans have been destroyed ever since. Bill Clinton stole the credit and is still getting false credit for submitting no less than 7 budgets before getting it right. Dragged kicking and screaming into it. Government shut down. Republicans meekly destroyed. And the freaking socialists are still taking credit for it. Any one out there with a blog, please (re)enlighten America on who is responsible for the great economy in the late ’90’s, what the policies were, and how it is exactly opposite to what is happening in America now. Please ? Ready to pull my hair out here…

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:29 pm 46. goy:

@38. Jim Baker: - I am too old for that, too. But just maybe an old man can make a younger man think, if only he shows the resolve to protect what is left of his liberty.

You know, I might consider abandoning the “I’m too old” cop-out if I saw any indication, anywhere (other than in our Armed Forces) that the actions of a few had any chance of making today’s younger men think.

Every culture in history has seen or is seeing its demise. America is the very first to have had a tangible chance to avoid that fate, but the past two years’ events have made it crystal clear that its People aren’t interested. We’re now far beyond the tipping point – pervasive ignorance, apathy, mendacity and superstition now rule over reason and liberty. Americans want the hand-out and they’re going to have it – with all the strings attached.

They don’t call it the “slippery slope” for nothing, Jim, and America is picking up speed, not putting on the brakes. I don’t plan to be standing in the way.

Feb 10, 2009 - 5:33 pm 47. David S:

@46. goy:

pervasive ignorance, apathy, mendacity and superstition now rule over reason and liberty.

That is the best description of the GOP I have seen in some time.

Kudos.

Peace.

DS

Feb 10, 2009 - 7:55 pm 48. Two Dogs:

David S #47, said, “I know you are, but what am I?”

What a moron.

Feb 10, 2009 - 9:52 pm 49. goy:

Two Dogs – ‘moron’ doesn’t even begin to cover it.

Dave, I was of course describing the condition of our American society, not the GOP. You are either too stupid to comprehend that or you are a spoiled, attention-seeking child who can’t make a point without copying, pasting and twisting something someone else has written. You pick.

Feb 11, 2009 - 8:56 am 50. Alex:

The ONLY difference between Republicans and Democrats is in their approach to the Tax System. Other than this there is NO discernable difference between them.

To attempt to state that either Republicans or Democrats desire a socialist state, or a Capitalist state of economy is intellectually dishonest. Each party is corrupt, disloyal to the Constitution and has been since the Elected Government of United States surrendered its authority to Coin and Regulate money to the Federal Reserve, and enacted the Income Tax system, both of which occured at roughly the same time in the early 1900’s.
The Republic of the United States no longer controls its destiny, but is controlled by European and International Bankers; the Controlling members of the Federal Reserve system. The Federal Reserve is a private entity that goes about its business creating profit for its members while citizens of the United States eat their own.

To Watch the Republic commit slow suicide is painful enough, but to also see its citizens so blinded by pettiness and greed they hasten the day is too much. I left the USA 7 years ago and lived in Europe, Costa Rica and now in Asia.

Costa Rica is ok, i lived there for several years but is increasingly politically instable. The drug trade is starting to infiltrate Government and Businesses, so be aware there is risk. China has its drawbacks like any other, but is stable and very inexpensive to live. Most of my neighbors are European business expats. As long as you dont involve yourself in Governmental affairs, you can do anything you like. There is greater individual freedom here than anywhere ive lived so far, people leave you alone to do as you wish. It may sound counter intuitive, but in China you live as you like as long as you dont attempt to affect the system of Government.
Its strange to watch USA move towards a more “socialist” economy due to disastrous decisions made the last 25 years, and watch China move to “capitalist” economy due to strategic decisions made in the same time frame. Thinking that the USA is in trouble today because President Obama was elected is ridiculous, the situation has built up over the last decades.

So keep blaming “democrats” and “republicans” while The U.S. banking system is hollowed out and transferred to Europe. There was over 2 trillion transferred to Europe during 2007 and 2008….where did it go, who recieved it, and why was the Federal Reserve allowed to transfer these funds without legislative approval or supervision? How much exposure to derivatives is the U.S. banking system asked to underwrite..? those are creations of European Banks, not U.S…..so why is the American Taxpayer insuring European Bank losses?
These are the questions the taxpayer should be asking.

Feb 11, 2009 - 9:31 pm 51. deguello:

It’s not a hand out per se, Ms. Meister,it’s more in the nature of a mutual exchange:the rabble hands out its vote;Obama and the Dems, hand out houses,cars, and kitchens;and together they defecate on the American Middle class.(temporarily)

Feb 15, 2009 - 12:21 pm

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