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1. David Thomson:

Michael Jackson’s death thankfully only gave the Obama administration a temporary reprieve. The American citizens are refocussing on their economic plight—and the political price now has to be paid. Obama will likely never again see a substantial uptick in the polls. He has not been in office quite six months and already he is rapidly becoming a marginalized figure. I predict that Obama will not finish out his term. He will resign due to “medical reasons.”

Jul 10, 2009 - 2:44 am 2. Terry, Eilat - Israel:

The worse is yet to come. Remember the great Jimmy Carter years? Well, Obama is much worse than Carter. Eventually, reality comes knocking at the door & punches you in the face. Obama will soon be seen as the worst president in U.S. history. Think about a disasterous fall in the value of the dollar? Some worry about inflation but I would worry more about deflation – actually, it’s possible to have both at once. Think about double-digit interest rates. Then, there is Obama’s unbelievably inept foreign policy, one blunder after the other. Events are already over-taking his policies. No matter how much chocolate covering you put on BS, it still tastes of sh*t.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:44 am 3. Chas:

You can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking you used to create them.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:46 am 4. "progressive"watch:

Obama’s economic train is gaining downhill speed and Obamamao and the progressivenistas are still pouring on the coal.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:06 am 5. Ken Besig:

You seem to think that Barack Obama really cares about his poll numbers or his political popularity and I wonder why. Barack Hussein is a radical Leftist who really believes in his New Left 1960’s ideology. Barack Hussein really believes in forcing neo Socialism in order to eradicate the injustices of capitalism and he firmly believes the charge that America is responsible for most international problems faced by developing nations. But most of all Barack Hussein believes absolutely that Israel is a rogue state based on the racist doctrine of Zionism which he must rein in before Israeli military aggression and adventurism against the peace loving ayatollahs and mullahs in Iran and oppression of the Palestinians drags the West into another war.
Barack Hussein learned these lessons from his close friends and mentors, some the most bitter anti Semites and Israel bashers on the American scene today, that is, Louis Farrakhan, Bill Ayres, Al Sharpton, and of course his spiritual mentor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. And while he does have nominally Jewish advisors and assistants like Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod, and Samantha Powers, these are all just as antagonistic towards America as Barack Hussein and regard Israel as the greatest single threat to international harmony.
Barack Hussein will inflict his trade and cap, his socialised health care, and his stimulus plans on America no matter how much damage these programs cause to Americans and no matter how much damage they do to his popularity. He will also do as much damage as is necessary to Israel to force the Jewish State surrender it’s security to the tender mercies of the Hamas and the PLO.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:07 am 6. Joe C.:

There are basically 2 economic cultures in the U.S.: Conservative – post-racial and family-oriented that places a premium on education and financial independence through a strong work ethic (producers); and Liberal – race/identity-focused and egocentric that demands to be educated and financially independent without the effort (dependents).

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:14 am 7. Essentials:

Oh, that we could see ourselves as others do. I wouldn’t put too much stock into the Democrats turning against Obama about the economy, or anything else for that matter.

What is (still) needed are the essentials coming forth from the conservative ranks across our nation. Enough essentials to overtake, offset and erase the doubts, lack of faith, erosion of confidence and disgust that conservatives built up against the GOP across the last 8 to 10 years.

It’s a long way across this political desert. Negatives don’t help, but neither does kidding ourselves about the realities. In addition to Obama and his ever intoxicated supporters, those are the terms GOP big-tent, metropolitan betrayal after betrayal set into concrete for us to deal with.

In short, there is no more benefit of the doubt left when it comes to campaigns and those who like to engage themselves with politics.

Hence, counting on political fallout helping the Republican tickets is a fool’s game. The GOP must satisfy heartland of America’s demand and thirst for conservative governance by officials that have earned their trust.

And last, Tea Parties that have become not much more than social gatherings seeded with obnoxious Ron Paul supporters won’t cut it for 2010.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:23 am 8. sodacrackers:

The postponing of the vote on the cap and trade in the Senate makes me wonder if they will try to sneak in a vote or ram it through in the middle of the night.

The only reason things aren’t worse is the ingenuity of the American people. Washington is doing its best to kill America.

Part of being a real leader is to recognize bills and laws that have had disastrous unintended effects and rescinding them!

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:24 am 9. Mike2:

Ms. Rubin,
I hope you are right but I fear that the sheer numbers of the government employed class and the government entitled class will prove overwhelming in the next election. The media too will, as Obama’s, Pelosi’s and Reid’s policies continue to fail, ratchet up the cheerleading out of sheer desperation and an unwillingness to admit they enabled a demagogue to become president. Younger voters, no matter how bad it gets for them, in the short run will continue to vote for leftists.

I think it will take massive amounts of pain to get large blocks of voters to open their eyes and that may not happen by 2010 even though I hope it does. The mantra of “it’s all Bush’s fault” still runs strong through the land. When will the failures become finally identified with Obama and the Democrats? I wish I knew.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:35 am 10. David Thomson:

“The postponing of the vote on the cap and trade in the Senate makes me wonder if they will try to sneak in a vote or ram it through in the middle of the night.”

Nope, that’s not going to happen. These legislators are worried about their political futures. Fortunately, we are still a republic where the citizens have the right to vote. The worst is over. Obama is now marginalized. He is politically impotent.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:48 am 11. Terry Gain:

The first question he should be asked is why he is pursuing economy damaging Cap And Trade even as the world has entered its third straight year of Global Cooling, a phenomenon that will continue for the next 30 years as a result of the Pacific Decadal Oscillation.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10783

But Republicans won’t ask this question because they are as ignorant on this issue as he is.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:54 am 12. Claudio:

He knows how to chill. Look how he looks at a 17-years-old brazilian girl:

http://oglobo.globo.com/fotos/2009/07/09/09_MHG_obama-vestido.jpg

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:16 am 13. RE:

Economic pain has still yet to hit a a large segment of the population. But it will soon enough.

It’s like we cut the engine driving 75 mph and we’re still rolling due to our momentum. They look out the window and see we’re still rolling, so ‘not to worry’. But people are gonna freak once they’ve come to a stop and realize that the engine won’t restart.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:20 am 14. vivo:

So Obama is not doing well . . .

If Bush or McCain were President today, they would face the exact same scenario. The Economy is like a giant, slow Transformer robot: it grows and metamorphoses as everyone pushes and pulls on complex systems and machinery.

I mentioned 10 factors on why the Economy is in bad shape in another thread. NOBODY has magic solutions. It’s like one man trying to haul a beached whale into the water. You need many men with many ideas to do this, but it seems like all they do is complain.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:23 am 15. sheesh:

Family values. Next. Obama’s numbers are still higher than were Bush’s at this point in his presidency. Granted, Bush had a nasty budget surplus to deal with, but he managed to destroy that quickly enough.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:24 am 16. fear Obama:

Wow…

Had to turn off the air conditioner it is ‘Gore’ weather outside.

July 10th and 59 degrees,
we southern boys are not used to this.

Bambi’s poll numbers are dropping faster than my Global Warming-
or is it Climate Change thermometer?

Anyway seeing Nancy Pelosi yesterday back on stage tooting her Climate Change tax bill made my blood run cold.
Married to that woman you would never need air conditioned even in southern California.

Anyway…

If pres. Hopenchanges poll numbers continue to fall at this pace- 37 percent disapproval yesterday and 38 percent today,
about two weeks from now the congress and senate democrats are going to be in serious trouble. Talk about your running’s to stay warm.

So go ahead and pass all your silly bills,
because in 2010-2011 the new Republican house and senate majority will have to remove all this BS.

Obama
Is like watching an inexperienced skier coming down an ice covered mountain at 80 miles an hour and there stands a line of huge pine trees that he is going to slam into.
The collision will be terrible to watch,
but you cant take your eyes off the screen.

Pass the popcorn and hot chocolate-
it is cold in here.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:26 am 17. Meryl:

8.sodacrackers
“The only reason things aren’t worse is the ingenuity of the American people. Washington is doing its best to kill America.”

Yes indeed. As they continue their attempts to euthanize the United States of America, I believe we will see a rebound of barter and anything that keeps us off the radar of taxes or living on borrowed money.

We are in much better shape to fight back than many economies. Our work experience (of the producers), the fact that WE still believe in rewarding merit (even if Col. obama doesn’t), and the reality that we still own our guns and a pile of ammo all provide us with grounded confidence for today and tomorrow that is essential right now.

The American mainstream has a long slow burn to get really angry. I think we’re getting there. And when we do, I really don’t think that Rahmbo the Ballerina is going to find a way to make use of THAT “crisis” for him and his Chicago boy. There WILL be a clean up on Aisle America.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:28 am 18. sheesh:

Here we go. THE quintessential example of spin, of idealogues lying through their teeth to paint an inaccurate picture for the sole purpose of destroying their enemy. And to think you would think otherwise of this good family man . . .

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907100001

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:31 am 19. Paul -Indiana:

Are you still glad that you voted for Obama?

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:39 am 20. Peter the Bubblehead:

5. Ken Besig wrote:
You seem to think that Barack Obama really cares about his poll numbers or his political popularity and I wonder why.

Peter writes: Because he obviously does! The whole point of his overseas apology tour was simply to get the world to like him. It had nothing to do with helping the US, which it obviously did not.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:44 am 21. Steve:

Myself I have wondered why this awful president ever had a popularity of anymore than the percentage in the last election. The pollsters have never questioned me or anyone that I know. His pool figures should be more like 49% with the recent legislation.

Informed people knew what this guy was all about prior to the election and even with MSM propping him up people are starting to realize that his policies are not what is needed and are causing more harm than good.

The real test will be in the 2010 elections and I for one hope that many democrats currently in congress and the senate are removed and replaced with real conservatives.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:44 am 22. RandyChandler:

The MSM will be as angry as a jilted lover and will very soon go after Obama with a vengeance. But doing so will in no way hide their complicity in forwarding the Democrats’ destructive political delusions or in Obama’s crimes against common sense. It’s going to get very nasty. The MSM will play the role of a woman scorned to a T.

All this will happen against the backdrop of the Democrat Party collapsing upon itslef as their power-crazed legislative orgy deteriorates into a free-for-all brawl and they go at one another in a futile attempt to play CYA. Theater of the Absurd, here we come.

Republicans will stay out of the way, above the fray and ready to ride to the rescue in the nation’s most desperate hour. The midterm elections should be cause for conservative celebration. [Unless my crystal ball is too clouded by climate change vapors -- not.]

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:58 am 23. Thomas L......:

In 2012 Obama’s opponent will be able to say, once more, it’s the economy stupid. Despite everyone’s fear that Mr. Obama will become Dear Leader for life, I’m starting to see a one termer, without significant Iranian-style election fraud, that is. Perhaps we shouldn’t rule that out.

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:08 am 24. Princess:

What will my carbon footprint be when I have to heat my house with pallet wood, scrap lumber and discarded furniture?

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:11 am 25. JFM:

If Bush or McCain were President today, they would face the exact same scenario

Minus six months of brain haired Obama’s policies making things much worse.

Minus the damage to foreign policy. Minus the damage done to WOT. Minus the cancellation of iportant military programs and the pandering or passivity to Iran and Kim Jong IL. Give the thanks to Obama when you glow in the dark.

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:22 am 26. RE:

24. Princess

What will my carbon footprint be when I have to heat my house with pallet wood, scrap lumber and discarded furniture?

I’m sure they’ll adjust the law to criminalize you. You will be squeezed.

Obama look at the American middle class (the bitter clingers) the way Stalin viewed the Ukranian kulaks.

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:44 am 27. Samizdat:

The Democrats who run the party and control the commitees in Congress know little about economics and are ideologically handicaped as to how capital functions to create jobs. They believe that more government control will solve problems that government control created. When you compare their thinking to Jack Kennedy’s ideology 50 years ago it gives you some idea of how intellectually isolated Democrats in Congress actually are.

It was inevitable that the “Stimulus” as constructed would fail to produce much positive effect on capital, markets, or private demand. This is not surprising for a bill that no one bothered to read or debate.

The current Administration is in way over its head given the economic abyss the country is in. Adherence to fabian socialist solutions will inevitably make things worse, not better. Indeed they already have. President Obama is a left oriented lawyer, as is Vice President Biden. Neither has ever had to meet a payroll or operated in the private sector.They have no working knowledge of macroeconomics and have spent political capital in tune with that ignorance which is collectively echoed by the Democrat dominated Congress, another collection of souls dominated by leftist lawyers. It’s only going to get worse folks.

It will take another 8 months to a year, but the independents who elected the President are going to turn on him and on this Congress. Americans remember prosperity and are not going to accept failure for long.

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:45 am 28. antaine:

“Chas: You can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking you used to create them.”

but…but…but…it wasn’t their thinking that caused them it was bushfaileconomicpolicies…they told me so themselves…

…the only problem with their “thinking” is that there wasn’t enough of it…

/sigh…barney frank…would that we all so blissfully lived in worlds of our own imagination…

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:46 am 29. Samizdat:

Vivo@ 14,

The economy has many complex elements but reviving it is relatively simple, create favorable conditions for risk taking. Right now people are not consuming because they are unsure about the future. If the government encouraged risk and had a beneficial tax policy for capitalists and consumers that would apply in the future, conditions would be favorable for turning things around.

That option was available, but the President chose Keynes instead and bet the government would pull us out of the recession. Capital and the producers doubt that its going to work, with good reason. Congress and the Administration decided to declare war on capital and to create uncertainty. We are all going to reap the whirlwind.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:01 am 30. Войска ПВО:

Ya gotta love it.

You know The Alleged Kenyan is in a nose dive when the pathetic, juvenile, zit-ravaged sheesh is tryng to unspin a picture of his hero gawking some hottie’s keester.

Maybe the climate change heat is meltingsheesh’s Clearasil.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:07 am 31. NMP:

And to think; it will be the rich, successful, career women who eagerly voted their misery into office who will be the hardest hit by Obama’s big tax plan.

Sweeties might want to get up off their bended knees, stop sucking on the smooth-talking-bad-boy-in-chief before he totally loots, pillages and violates women-on-bended-knees, their children, grandchildren and their children’s children.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:12 am 32. J. Rockford:

Obama doesn’t have a plan, and doesn’t need a plan. He’s done; he made it. He got the golden ring. He’s a world celebrity, ala Michael Jackson or Michael Jordon. He lives in the White House with all its servants, catering to his every need. Short commute. He has his own personal 747 jet, with another as backup. Helos over to his personal resort at Camp David with its 70 full time servants on weekends. His kids go to an elite private school. His wife carries $6,000 purses and wears $500 tennis shoes. He can go anywhere in the world, and expense it. When he’s done in eight years, he’ll become superrich giving speeches and selling a book written by a ghostwriter. Why would he waste time learning economics? It would interfere with his lavish lifestyle.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:12 am 33. Ms. Attitude:

18. sheesh:

Even if it were true that he checked out some womans backside it shouldn’t matter. He’s a man and he’s not dead. I saw the pic and thought, “right on, Mr. Prez! That is a heck of a lot hotter than what you go home to!”

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:18 am 34. Ms. Attitude:

32. J. Rockford:

Wow! You typed what I was thinking!

Maybe the Ghosts of Economics past, present and future will come visit him in the night and he’ll wake up and change!

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:25 am 35. The Wizard:

When is America going to wake up to Obama pernicious policies and fractured agenda? This man is destroying our country, our Constitution, taking away our freedoms and taxing us into oblivion. He is bankrupting this country. Obama has aligned himself with dictators such as Chavez, Castro, Ahmadinejad and now Putin, which flies in the face our entire doctrine of freedom and democracy. He and his miscreant sycophants are imperious and deaf to the voice of the voters. Their hubris and audacity is reprehensible.

He needs to be impeached. America will not survive four years of Obama.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:36 am 36. The Wizard:

32. J. Rockford:

Obama doesn’t have a plan, and doesn’t need a plan. He’s done; he made it. He got the golden ring. He’s a world celebrity, ala Michael Jackson or Michael Jordon. He lives in the White House with all its servants, catering to his every need. Short commute. He has his own personal 747 jet, with another as backup. Helos over to his personal resort at Camp David with its 70 full time servants on weekends. His kids go to an elite private school. His wife carries $6,000 purses and wears $500 tennis shoes. He can go anywhere in the world, and expense it. When he’s done in eight years, he’ll become superrich giving speeches and selling a book written by a ghostwriter. Why would he waste time learning economics? It would interfere with his lavish lifestyle.

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS!!!!! Bravo to you, J. Rockford.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:41 am 37. Mongoose:

Here we go. THE quintessential example of spin, of idealogues lying through their teeth to paint an inaccurate picture for the sole purpose of destroying their enemy. And to think you would think otherwise of this good family man . . .

More projection. A accurate discripotion of how Democrats are handling there incompetent.

Vivo: nonsense. It is the Marxist attitudes, policies, legislation, regulations and execution of the Democrats that are causing this.

We would have been coming out of this by the fall but for all that. You are just repeating dem talking points without evealuating them at all. What are you going to do, keep mumbling them as you look for a job? Are you ever right about anything?

Keep up the BDS, it really works for us.

The Democrats are going to get creamed in 2010 if this keeps up. This is much worse than Clinton’s first two years.

Just wait until Franken pipes up.

Sweet!

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:41 am 38. J. Rockford:

33. Ms Attitude

“Even if it were true that he checked out some womans backside it shouldn’t matter. He’s a man and he’s not dead. I saw the pic and thought, “right on, Mr. Prez! That is a heck of a lot hotter than what you go home to!”

Outstanding!!!

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:47 am 39. Sebastian Shaw:

I predicted the fellatio media would turn on President Obama when rude reality shatters his fantasy Utopia he hoped to create from the crises; however, unemployment will continue to tick upward & the stock market will continue to lose money under this recession. In the meantime, all of Obama’s ideas have made everything worse. I predicted his fall from grace would happen in the Fall 2009, but his fall is happening much sooner, Summer 2009 as all of his Marxist plans have been stopped in either the House (Health Care reform) & Senate (Cap & Trade) given 2010 is on the horizon & frightened Democrats are realizing the economic climate is worse–not better–under the One. The Congressional Democrats can see that they may not be re-elected given the high unemployment, coming inflation, & the bad stock market. Furthermore, Porkulus will haunt many of the Democrats who voted for this law; it may well be repealed or cancelled altogether (yet the madness continues in the House as many Democrats want a second Porkulus to cover their rear-ends for the first bad one). Porkulus will haunt President Obama the next 3 years as well. He’s going into free fall now; he will take many of the other Democrats with him.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:56 am 40. JED:

‘The stimulus package and the change to a new green economy with create 4 million new jobs.’They laughed at the “Bridge to Nowhere” and then built a bigger bridge of bigger promises.
Crime follows unemployment, the unemployment checks are turning to welfare checks, industrial urban areas have much larger unemployment than the nation averages, August, statistically, has been urban violence month. Riots are not going to help the approval ratings.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:57 am 41. fear Obama:

30. Войска ПВО:

Ya gotta love it.
You know The Alleged Kenyan is in a nose dive when the pathetic, juvenile, zit-ravaged sheesh is trying to unspin a picture of his hero gawking some hottie’s keester.

lol…

I was going to say-
at least pres. Hopenchange is not gay.

But after seeing sheeshs comments-
Bambi was trying to avoid stepping on his tongue.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:08 am 42. Meryl:

40.JED
“…the unemployment checks are turning to welfare checks,”

…and in California, the welfare checks are turning to IOU’s…street riots pending…

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:14 am 43. fear Obama:

Future republican congressman/woman senator.

Are you better off now than you were 1 year ago?

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:15 am 44. Meryl:

in 2010 when we do the Cleanup on Aisle America, we need to keep in mind that we need to have in place not only the #s in the House to impeach Col. obama, but also the #s in the Senate to convict him and call the U-haul for him.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:16 am 45. Oldguy:

We have until 2012 to arm ourselves and get ready for the eventual riots that will happen when Obama is voted out of the presidency.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:25 am 46. Joe Bison:

When enough people who voted this guy in get
a real hurt economically they will become
disenchanted. Sort of the old what does it
take to turn a liberal into a conservative?
He gets mugged.

The problem the Demos face is that they still
have to be elected and can only manipulate
a certain percentage of the vote unlike
certain other regimes overseas.

Another factor to consider is Obama’s
popularity among voters outside the
Black community. I kind of feel his
sheen is going to rub off much more
quickly among non-Blacks. Among
Blacks on the other hand come hell
or high water support will remain
near unanimous. Sort of a cult persona
to them.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:28 am 47. maak:

We can’t afford to be complacent. The administration is constantly in campaign mode. Lefties (Moveon.org, ACORN, Liberal blog people, etc.) are STILL fueled by “Bush is Bad”, “Bush stole the election”, “Clinton was mistreated in Lewinsky scandal”, and “Isn’t it wonderful that we have a black president”. They’re not going to let up and I wouldn’t count on the MSM seeing the light.

“If you snooze, you lose”.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:29 am 48. Sebastian Shaw:

President Obama seems to subsist on the sustenance of glorification of himself; therefore, Obama is dependent on his popularity being high as the moon. His narcissism makes him believe to be a god made flesh when he is nothing more than an egomaniac with feet of clay; he is human, flawed, yet wants to dispense with the serial fantasy he is some kind of superhuman god who can do no wrong. It’s why he will not & never take responsibility for the recession & his defeats in Congress. President Obama is truly a man-child of the worst order–a spoiled Affirmative Action brat with the depth of mud. President Obama’s continue falling poll numbers will shatter him into tiny broken bits & reveal him to be the fraud he is to the world.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:33 am 49. maak:

35. The Wizard: “He needs to be impeached. America will not survive four years of Obama.”

That’s what I have my eye on: Democrats to lose majority in Congress in 2010 –> impeach Obama!

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:35 am 50. JFM:

We can’t afford to be complacent. The administration is constantly in campaign mode.

It goes much farther than that: the administration has been in elections stealing mode since January 21st: the US Bureau of Census has signed a deal with Acorn for recruiting people in order to establish the census and so the number of representatives sent by each state. This was agreed before March 1st, perhaps even in January ie with the presidential armchair still warm from Bush’s body.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:39 am 51. JFM:

“Even if it were true that he checked out some womans backside it shouldn’t matter. He’s a man and he’s not dead. I saw the pic and thought, “right on, Mr. Prez! That is a heck of a lot hotter than what you go home to!”

I have been told that the “woman” was 17.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:42 am 52. johnt:

Sheesh, your #’s 15 & 18.
Fascinating, your hero, the guy who has contempt for you, is in over his head, the policies still are not working,[and if you had a brain you would realize they can't work, and further, their working is not the point, power is.], and all you can do is blather about approval ratings.

Your #15 is especially sad even by your incredibly low standards. Bush destroyed the surplus? Does this mean you dislike deficits? If so then why are Obama’s own current spending and deficit projections not driving you to distraction? FYI, $1.8 trillion is more than $468 billion, the latter number being the last and largest deficit of the Bush years, and under a Democrat Congress. Are bigger deficits good?

Please have the child who does your reading for you repeat this two or three times, then explain it to you. The child may then add in additional ambitions that Obama, the guy who has contempt for you, holds in store for the nation that his muscle bound wife finally is proud of.

Can’t you find another and less harmful but equally ludicrous faith to wallow in? Why politics, where clowns like you can only do damage? Maybe astrology, or snake worship, perhaps wiccan, there’s got to be something that occupies what passes for your mind.

But I have already wasted too much time on you. Lay back down on your bed of nails and try not to dream of total federal control of a once great nation in the hands of a bunch of collectivist bumblers.
Sweet dreams.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:49 am 53. Libertyship46:

The economy is going to get so bad that people are going to look at the Bush years (either one of the Bush presidents) as “the good old days,” when unemployment was under 5%, interest rates were low, corporations were expanding, and people actually had money to spend. Remember those days? But no, we now have St. Obama, the man the mainstream media said was going to deliver us from all evils, both economic and foreign. Hmmmm, now that Obama is crashing and all of his financial schemes are turning into dust, I wonder if the same mainstream media, and all those poor saps who believed Obama’s lies during the election, will actually admit they were wrong. Naaaaa, I don’t believe they’ll ever do that, they’ll do what they always do and just blame Bush for everything. But, according to the latest polls, people are starting to get wise and Obama’s approval ratings are sinking like a stone. Well, we’ll know we’re in really, really, desperate shape when we start yearning for the days of the Carter administration!

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:50 am 54. Conservative1:

Vivo and the rest of the libs,

When will you realize that people voted for the personality. Obama has absolutely no interest in embracing America as it was founded. You sir, are intellectually bankrupt. Good night sweetheart.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:50 am 55. RandyChandler:

Obama doesn’t need to be impeached. He needs to remain in office, hamstrung by a Republican Congress and basically impotent, made to eat a daily diet of crow instead of the $100 an ounce steak they’ve been wolfing down at those White House parties.

He should be made an example of as a dangerously delusional leftwing radical. Keep him on display for the rest of his term as a lesson to the world: This is what a failed progressive looks like — the man who almost brought America to her knees. Boy-child in the Promised Land and would-be Dark Avenger of past injustices. Behold a broken man.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:59 am 56. Chuckt:

Issues, debates, attacks and spin will not matter; good hair will win the election in 2012, and nothing else. BHO certainly qualifies on one side of the aisle, but Sarah Palin & Mitt Romney may vie for the best coif on the other side. Hope and change, after you become unemployed with a family to support, isn’t an economic policy to vote for. Spin, meet realty and good hair. Ms. Rubin, you’re right on point, except for failing to mention the hair factor.

“No one ever went broke underestimating the taste [and I would add, stupidity] of the American people.” H.L. Mencken

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:59 am 57. Strawman:

Eventually presidents are held accountable for their actions and for the economy.

Except FDR.

Jul 10, 2009 - 9:18 am 58. Ms. Attitude:

40. JED: 45. Oldguy: Reasons why I own a gun?

Jul 10, 2009 - 9:27 am 59. John Samford:

JFM, you must be a yankee.
In my state it’s 13 with the parents consent. Without it, as we say in my neck of the woods;
“Under 16, protected by law, over 60 protected by nature”

17 is fine.
Just for your further edification;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ7Gqpj0fNc&feature=related

Never had confession
Never had a home
Never had no worries
Till I met Domino
Ain’t the virgin Mary
Love her I confess
Got my hesitations
’cause she kisses like the kiss of death.

It’s summer. You should find a recent HS grad and buy her a car, rent her an apartment and show her a good time. She’ll appreciate it. So will you.

She’s got the reputation
hasn’t got a home
It’s a sticky situation
She ain’t old enough to vote.

Everytime dam time I walk thru that door
It’s the same dang thing
the gyrl bends over and I forget my name.

I have been a sugar daddy. It’s one of life’s less arduous things. You should try it.

Jul 10, 2009 - 9:28 am 60. Ms. Attitude:

51. JFM: I have been told that the “woman” was 17.

Hey, he looked, he didn’t touch or order her up for the night. If my man didn’t check that out my gaydar would’ve gone on off!!

Jul 10, 2009 - 9:30 am 61. Strawman:

Ms. Attitude, I suspect that letting his inner Clinton show will actually help him politically. I think that for most of his supporters, he’s a little too nerdy and goodie-two-shoes.

OTOH, those who think he’s the second coming of Jesus may be a bit shocked to discover that he’s a little more like Mohammed.

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:20 am 62. John Samford:

I got side-tracked.
The Dpt of Labor changed the way they calculate unemployment in January and again in February;

http://www.bls.gov/cps/

There will be another change in August. So this administration is using the time honored socialist tradition of moving the goalposts.
Real unemployment is past 10%, at least. Micheal Savage claims 16% but I was unable to verify that claim and it seems sort of high to my seat of the pants guide.
Of course most of the people I associate with are either self-employed or retired. Most of the ones I know that still work for a paycheck are finishing off their last few years at a government post before retiring.
When the White hose hands over the numbers, they are just counting payroll employees. PSC, Sub contractors (1099’s) and self employeed types, etc. are not counted. IIRC, they don’t count the hard core, out of work for the last 5 years sort either. I think that is how Savage got to 16%.
The two ‘adjustments’ were for around .1% each. Figuring another 30 or 40 basis points for the seasonal adjustments and you can add .4 to .6 to the official rate to get a better number. Anyway, after the August ‘adjustment, the normal seasonal adjustments will drop, since the season is over. So by September we will see a more accurate un-employment number. It will be ugly. The market will take another dive, and things will get testy for D.C. Bob. Wait till some of the MSM types that look around the news rooom and notice that half or more of those once busy desks are empty start to wonder how long their desk will be occupied. Then they will be asking D.C. Bob if the Usurper intended to destroy the American economy or if he is just stooooooopid?
Helen the Hag was just the first drop, the hose will soon be wide open.

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:21 am 63. Mike:

Jennifer:

“In fact, his top legislative priorities are not likely to make things any better.”

Obama was never prepared for legislative defeat. His agenda revolves around rhetoric, and the extent that he can portray himself as an vehicle of “change”. When legislative defeats come, we will see him turn against everyone who is not an agent of “change”. This would be the inevitable predicament for a naive administration that repeatedly claims that “doing nothing” is not an option, except that “doing nothing” actually as a result of bad legislation.

Obama’s character is in bad shape already. He has an expanded agenda that lacks sufficient detail, and he has never shown the country that he has a laser-like focus on the economy. His focus is on his superior intentions rather than results. What’s worse, Obama does not have the necessary intellectual or rhetorical skills to effectively describe what has to be done to get the economy into shape. If he had economic skills, excuses would not be necessary. I conclude that he never had executive skills, and now he is incapable of “changing” into the executive he needs to be. The irony.

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:28 am 64. Mike W.:

A survey (http://people-press.org/report/528/) of more than 2,500 scientists, conducted in collaboration with the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), finds that the best and brightest of our nation—the engineers, physicists, chemists, aeronautics experts, biotechnicians and others who will be responsible for saving our country from the brink of crisis with new and marketable advances in science—vote Democrat, view themselves as liberals, believe that government is good for science, believe in evolution, believe that global warming is a legitimate phenomenon, and claim that the Bush administration frequently buried and denied scientific findings when they conflicted with GOP ideology:

• Scientists are far less critical than the general public of government performance. Just 40% of scientists agree that “when something is run by the government, it is usually inefficient and wasteful”; a majority of the public (57%) agrees with this statement.
• Most notably, 87% of scientists say that humans and other living things have evolved over time and that evolution is the result of natural processes such as natural selection. Just 32% of the public accepts this as true.
• And the near consensus among scientists about global warming is not mirrored in the general public. While 84% of scientists say the earth is getting warmer because of human activity such as burning fossil fuels, just 49% of the public agrees.
• More than half of the scientists surveyed (55%) say they are Democrats, compared with 35% of the public. Fully 52% of the scientists call themselves liberals; among the public, just 20% describe themselves as liberals. Many of the scientists surveyed mentioned in their open-ended comments that they were optimistic about the Obama administration’s likely impact on science.
• For its part, the public does not perceive scientists as a particularly liberal group. When asked whether they think of scientists as liberal, conservative or neither in particular, nearly two-thirds (64%) choose the latter option. Just 20% say they think of scientists as politically liberal. However, a majority of scientists (56%) do see members of their profession as liberal.
• Most scientists had heard at least a little about claims that government scientists were not allowed to report research findings that conflicted with the Bush administration’s point of view. And the vast majority (77%) says that these claims are true. By contrast, these claims barely registered with the public – more than half heard nothing at all about this issue. Only about a quarter of the public (28%) said they thought the claims were true.

So take a tip from your friendly neighborhood rocket scientist—if you believe new advances in science are the key to pulling this country out of this recession—vote Democrat!

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:42 am 65. Dave ll:

Come on, people! We knew the man was an empty suit before we elected him….what did you expect? He’s only living DOWN to what he is…a metro-sexual political celebrity…not a problem solver, not a man with new ideas or even common sense. We ALL KNEW he was the coming of Carter II…now the reality is sinking in for others that actually voterd for him.

It would be ALOT more fun to see the screws tighten on the Dems and Obama (as the media and others turn on him) if not for the HELL that those of us personally and those we love will have to go through.

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:59 am 66. Strawman:

From someone who wouldn’t know a proton from a crouton.

Quick: which one’s made out of quarks (and no, I’m not talking about the Feringus)?

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:14 am 67. ricpic:

Obama’s numbers are falling because of the state of the economy. Have no allusions that his popularity is on the wane because average Americans are waking to the horrors of leftism, statism, socialism, called it what you will. The American people are singularly unresponsive to the arguments of either liberalism or conservatism. If the economy begins to turn north despite the body blows Obama has dealt it rest assured Democrats will lose little congressional strength in ‘10 and Obama will win re-election in ‘12.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:19 am 68. Paul -Indiana:

I’ve been to Brazil and there are a lot of hotties. An earlier comment comparing that babe to Michelle was right on.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:21 am 69. Paul -Indiana:

#66. They are all made of quarks, including us.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:22 am 70. Meryl:

10.DavidThomson

“Fortunately, we are still a republic where the citizens have the right to vote. The worst is over. Obama is now marginalized. He is politically impotent.”

I fervantly hope you are proven right.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:23 am 71. HalifaxCB:

Mike W @61 – I’d say that that’s probably as good a reason as any to run for the hills; scientists by and large are culturally inept. (FWIW, I’m speaking as one). History provides some good examples – particularly in early 30’s Germany, where academics supported Hitler by a ratio of something like 2-1 as versus the working population (see the book “Rites of Spring” by Modris Eksteins). You should also look into the state of Russian science during the high years of Communism; certainly there were a few important dissidents, but there were far more Lysenkos…

The work one does tends to colour the ways one approaches problems – scientists by and large are trained in universities where all the problems they deal with are solvable by following rules; it’s quite natural for them to carry that attitude into later life. Very few actually have the b*lls to challenge authority, particularly if they are employed, as a large number are, in government, or in government supported industries. They are well paid and well protected, and are pretty sheltered from the vissitudes most people learn to deal with on an every day basis; and they also enjoy the social status grated to them by the Scientism (the religious faith in science), particularly among the Left.

You should also take into account that a majority of older US scientists got there not because they loved it, or because they were actualy any good at it, but because staying in the sciences as a student provided a draft deferment during Vietnam.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:26 am 72. David Thomson:

“If the economy begins to turn north despite the body blows Obama has dealt it rest assured Democrats will lose little congressional strength in ‘10 and Obama will win re-election in ‘12.”

That’s absolutely correct. Most Americans are economic illiterates. They simply vote their pocketbooks based on the immediate moment. Alas, this is why Barack Obama and the Democrats are royally screwed. They no longer have the ability to throw money around like a drunken sailor to buy votes—without suffering the consequences. The country is too broke. We cannot take for granted that the Chinese will continue to be played for suckers.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:41 am 73. Strawman:

“Scientists” like this one:

http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:48 am 74. ricpic:

“I’ve been to Brazil and there are a lot of hotties,” says Paul-Indiana.

Indiana has some of the hottest hotties in the world, but the grass is always greener…

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:57 am 75. Mike W.:

72. David Thomson:
“If the economy begins to turn north despite the body blows Obama has dealt it rest assured Democrats will lose little congressional strength in ‘10 and Obama will win re-election in ‘12.”

“That’s absolutely correct. Most Americans are economic illiterates. They simply vote their pocketbooks based on the immediate moment. Alas, this is why Barack Obama and the Democrats are royally screwed. They no longer have the ability to throw money around like a drunken sailor to buy votes—without suffering the consequences. The country is too broke. We cannot take for granted that the Chinese will continue to be played for suckers.”

…which is exactly why opposing the economic recovery plan was the biggest boneheaded move that the GOP has pulled in a long while. If the economy upturns, for any reason, Obama and the Democrats win big time, and the GOP will be flung farther into the wilderness. If the economy stays the same or continues to tank, what makes you believe that the public will immediately turn back to the GOP, and not just a more moderate, corporatist Clinton Democrat? After all, the GOP never had a serious plan for recovering the economy other than tax cuts for the rich and lowering capital gains tax, which every economist has said would be a sure loser. The public may be fickle and generally stupid, but to believe that they are stupid enough to go right back to the GOP, which never had a comprehensive recovery plan, which openly roots for the country to fail, and which somehow thinks whining “We told you so” from the sidelines is path to victory, is too ludicrous to believe.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:57 am 76. maak:

55. RandyChandler: Obama doesn’t need to be impeached. He needs to remain in office, hamstrung by a Republican Congress and basically impotent, …He should be made an example of as a dangerously delusional leftwing radical. Keep him on display for the rest of his term as a lesson to the world: This is what a failed progressive looks like …Behold a broken man.”

Sorry. I should have said “impeach and convict”. I think he would be better displayed in a prison cell.

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:59 am 77. Mike W.:

HalifaxCB: “Mike W @61 – I’d say that that’s probably as good a reason as any to run for the hills; scientists by and large are culturally inept.”

Culturally inept? Hey, if they can develop alternative sources of energy that can get us off Saudi oil and make us the new leader in energy development and production, I don’t care if they walk around with their underwear on the outside of their pants.

Frankly, I’m just glad that scientists are no longer going to have their studies thrown in the garbage simply because they contradicted Bush’s fundamentalist evangelical anti-science, anti-environment mumbo jumbo.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:07 pm 78. maak:

73. Strawman: ““Scientists” like this one: http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/”

That’s Eugenics! This kind of person could implement a “final solution”. What a distressing thought. I’m going to look for that book….

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:07 pm 79. karlinsync:

Obama’s outright lies and lack of transparency in this administration will doom him. He will go down down as the worst President ever as his policies are partisan, benefit social organizations such as corrupt ACORN, and spend, spend, spend!

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:15 pm 80. David Thomson:

“After all, the GOP never had a serious plan for recovering the economy other than tax cuts for the rich and lowering capital gains tax, which every economist has said would be a sure loser.”

Every economist? That is a very strange assertion to make. The center-right faction of the Republican Party unapologetically advocates tax cuts for the rich—and also the middle class, the “forgotten man.” We desperately need to cut the capital gains tax to encourage more investment. There is, however, one more thing that must also be done: cut government spending!

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:23 pm 81. donttreadonme:

Sheesh, vivo, et al.,
The issue isn’t YOUR support for Obama. You are his jobless youth flock, it is a given that you will always support him. If the dipshit actually chewed your leg off at the knee, you would give him the benefit of the doubt, figuring he was really, really hungry. This is about the “independents” and “moderates” amongst us, the ones who effectively greased POTUS Dipshit’s skids. Newsflash, comrades, they have partaken of his excrement sandwich and they don’t like it much. Anecdotally, of the three “swing” voters that I know, all three swear they would not for him again. And as for his poll numbers, Obama’s negative 5 approve/not approve poll numbers ARE worse than Bush at the same increment of time in their respective terms. Obama does have good taste in arses; so he has that going for him, which is nice. (MO’s present derriere not inclusive, as many wives let the ole’ caboose extend after pushing out a few puppies.)

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:28 pm 82. Locomotive Breath:

“Granted, Bush had a nasty budget surplus to deal with, but he managed to destroy that quickly enough.”

Produced under Republican leadership in Congress who holds the purse strings in case you didn’t know. Something happened in 2001 though due to Clinton fecklessly ignoring an external threat. Anyone remember what what was about?

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:31 pm 83. KB:

#65 Mike W:

…which is exactly why opposing the economic recovery plan was the biggest boneheaded move that the GOP has pulled in a long while. If the economy upturns, for any reason, Obama and the Democrats win big time, and the GOP will be flung farther into the wilderness.

True. Except that the economy is NOT going to recover (at least not in the short term related to the upcoming congressional/presidential elecations). They’re doing nothing to fix it. They’re proping up bits and pieces here and there hoping that something will catch…but they have NOTHING to offer. The internet bubble raised everyone’s expectations on what a ‘robust’ economy should look like…and the housing bubble sent those expectations through the roof. The only thing Obama offers is some sort of green revolution…and that’s not going to cut it. Not by at least two orders of magnitude.

You just watch.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:42 pm 84. Войска ПВО:

75. Mike W. writes:

“If the economy stays the same or continues to tank, what makes you believe that the public will immediately turn back to the GOP, and not just a more moderate, corporatist Clinton Democrat? After all, the GOP never had a serious plan for recovering the economy other than tax cuts for the rich and lowering capital gains tax, which every economist has said would be a sure loser.”

Mike,

You make some excellent points but I differ; I wonder why I have not heard “every economist” say that tax cuts [for the rich] would be a loser. I recall that Bush’s tax cuts help a great deal in getting us through the potential tragic effects of 9/11 would have had on our economy. But, as a caveat, I am engaging in hunches here and am open to citations bearing out your points.

Also, how would people go “for a corpratist Clinton Democrat” when Obama is their best boy? Are you talking a Kennedy-Carter challenge in 2012?

As for 2010, while I am not a Republican flag-waver, I think that they — like the patriots on Breed’s (not Bunker) Hill — are holding their fire until the see the “whites of [the enemy's] eyes” before lettign go with the first volley. We have a few more months before this the pain spreads to even the most ardent of The Boy King’s devotees.

That’s when one cock’s the musket and fires at point-blank range.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:43 pm 85. donttreadonme:

Mike W.,
Your partisanship is breathtaking; your hypocrisy astounding! Which party was actively cheering on failure for six years in Iraq? Your statement “if the economy turns around for any reason..” as if econ recovery is some random happenstance indirectly associated with EMPLOYED people buying crap and PROFITABLE PRIVATE businesses making the crap the employed buy. 2010/2011 will be watershed years of absolute economic misery which will make 2008/9 look like a cakewalk. The next default wave of mortgage Option/ARM resets picks up anew by next Spring; the commercial RE crackup is beginning in earnest, and our deficit and unfunded liablilities are beyond comprehension. Obama is certainly not responsible for this mess, but his policies ARE making it worse and will extend our pain, and he will suffer for it sooner than later. Doubt me? Then try this at home:
Give away 30% of your income; triple down on your debt load; then ask all your neighbors to lend you money at 4%. Even a partisan sheep like yourself can figure this one out, eh?

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:44 pm 86. DanRampage:

It reminds me of the movie Spaceballs, when Dark Helmet ordered the empire spaceship to proceed at ‘ludicrous speed’, and then went to plaid.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:45 pm 87. Mike W.:

82. Locomotive Breath: “Something happened in 2001 though due to Clinton fecklessly ignoring an external threat. Anyone remember what what was about?”

Last time I checked, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch, not Clinton’s.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:48 pm 88. Paul -Indiana:

#74. Yes, I agree. My wife is from Indiana.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:52 pm 89. HalifaxCB:

Mike W @77 – That’s a big “if”; and you better believe that most working on such things will stay on for the ride as long as they can convince people that a solution exists. So far there’s very little to show for the effort, and if you really want to treat science the way it should be treated, you should be demanding evidence, not working on faith in some miraculous future.

Years ago I had a number of friends involved in the theoretical aspects of Reagan’s SDI (”Star Wars”) technology. They loved it; it was commonly accepted that a) it would never work; b) it provided a scientific playground for doing whatever it was they actually wanted to do; and c) as long as the Russians believed it might work, they’d have to spend themselves to death to try and match it.

It was a great bluff on Reagan’s part (and a lot of good science came out of it); I fail to see any benefit though from Obama pulling the same on the American people.

I see Strawman has posted a link to Holdren’s book; I would suggest you read it -or at least visit the link – and find out exactly what I mean by “culturally inept”, and Scientism (as versus real science). Science, for all its logic and marvellous sdvances, is always built on the assumptions that in turn rest on our perceptions and experiences. It can never really address the issue of whether or not God exists; that’s not its domain. Science can only address what happens and how, not why. That’s something one comes to by one’s own light. Personally, I guess I would be considered at best a Deist and at worst an agnostic, but the best mathematician I ever met was a true Bible thumper verging Holy Roller (and an incredibly decent person). If people from Newton to Einstein find their own personal belief, I’m all for it, s long as they allow me to find my own way.

Jul 10, 2009 - 12:55 pm 90. katablog.com:

I mentioned 10 factors on why the Economy is in bad shape in another thread. NOBODY has magic solutions.

Ah yes, but IF you were correct and everyone therefore admitted that they didn’t know what to do and by that admission didn’t do anything – would that not have been better than tossing $787 billion of the taxpayers money down a rat hole?

The real facts are that IF the money had been put in the hands of the taxpayer (instead of taking it out of their wallets) through tax cuts and/or tax rebates, there would be money to put into the economy since taxpayers and businesses would not have stopped spending. We stopped spending because we see the big debt payments coming down the pike and aren’t foolish enough to continue to spend like we use to.

Next: there is NO WAY Barack Hussein Obama will resign. He’s far too egotistical. While some of you suppose that as you’ve finally figured out the B.O. doesn’t know what he’s doing – BO also knows he’s incompetent. Wrong. I believe he probably knows exactly what he’s doing and doing it well. You just didn’t have a clue that he really meant it when he told Joe the Plumber what he wanted to do was spread the wealth around. He wants more entitlements for the “poor” (which many should be classified as comfortable on the government taking care of them instead of really poor) while taking from the “rich” (those that put in hard work and end up being rewarded monetarily for it) to pay for these new entitlements.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:05 pm 91. white helmet:

donttreadonme @ 81:

let me use small words for you: the republicans controlled congress from 1994-2006: in that time bernie Madoff stole 50 billion, hedge fund managers made out like bandits and your speaker hastert did a deal that made him a wealthy man and GM kept making ridiculous cars. But hospitals closed, more people lacked health insurance, banks kept making ridiculous loans. Today more people are out of work than any time since …I can remember. So who do I trust huh? The republicans that put us here, or the man trying to clean up the mess you made?

locomotive breath @ 82: ha, ha. Do you suppose maybe Bush ought to have raised taxes to cover the cost of the war as a responsible Pres and congress ought to have done? PS: he made a great deal with Iraq–we liberate it, install a government and get zero in low cost oil. Nice job!

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:06 pm 92. Mike W.:

81. donttreadonme: “Obama does have good taste in arses; so he has that going for him, which is nice. (MO’s present derriere not inclusive, as many wives let the ole’ caboose extend after pushing out a few puppies.)”

Conservative Republican’s recent obsession with behinds is pretty disturbing. Aren’t you supposed to be the party of morality and values? Apparently not. Apparently you’d rather drool over a photo of a teenage Latina girl’s behind and project your own bizarre fantasies onto it. Watching Fox News or logging on to Drudge Report or FoxNation.com, one might assume that the only important development that came out of the entire G8 Summit was a photo of a Latina girl’s bum. For a political party that has nothing but endless contempt for Latin America, it’s ironic that Conservative Republicans can’t seem to keep their minds off Latin women.

Hypocrisy, sexual frustration, false moralizing and sheer ignorance, thy name is GOP.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:08 pm 93. zanne:

I saw the pics. Looks like the conservatives need to supply him a constant view of young ladie’s backsides. Distractions can work in our favor too if applied correctly. I can’t help but giggle when Mrs. O catches a view of these pics.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:18 pm 94. Войска ПВО:

90. white helmet writes:

“PS: [Bush] made a great deal with Iraq–we liberate it, install a government and get zero in low cost oil. Nice job!”

..so then you concede that Iraq was not, after all, “about the oil”?

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:18 pm 95. zhombre:

Jeez, Mike W, that turgid bit of indignation wins you the Political Bulwer-Lytton award.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:19 pm 96. David Thomson:

This is perhaps the number one thing the Republicans have going for themselves: the American people are freaking out over government spending. They may be somewhat confused regarding economic theory—but still legitimately sense that things are out of control. The Democrats rely on the bribing their constituents, and that’s just not going to fly anymore.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:20 pm 97. Mike W.:

85. donttreadonme: “Mike W.,
Your partisanship is breathtaking; your hypocrisy astounding! Which party was actively cheering on failure for six years in Iraq?”

Yes, but that’s because we knew the whole thing was a big lie – and we were right. The intelligence that led us to war was bull****. The Bush admin asked the CIA to torture in order to coerce Iraqis to give us false confessions, and Bush used those false confessions gained under torture to rush us to war. The CIA is even admitting now that it lied to Congress. Why the **** should anyone support a war when it’s clear to anyone with a brain that the whole reason for the war is a big fat lie based on confessions from torture? You happily ate up a big fat bull**** sandwich that your Republican hero president fed you, and you have the gall to accuse someone else of partisanship? You morons couldn’t ask a single critical question in the run up to this bull**** war, and you accuse others of hypocrisy? What a joke.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:21 pm 98. Paul -Indiana:

From #92. “one might assume that the only important development that came out of the entire G8 Summit was a photo of a Latina girl’s bum”
===========

Correct.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:22 pm 99. Mike W.:

91. white helmet:“So who do I trust huh? The republicans that put us here, or the man trying to clean up the mess you made?”

Yeah, American may have alarmingly short memories, but I have no doubt that they do recall that life was generally good under Clinton, whereas life generally sucked under Bush, unless you happened to be a hedge fund manager, Bush crony, or CEO of Blackwater.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:29 pm 100. AThinkingPerson:

Re #91 White Helmet: “So who do I trust huh? The republicans that put us here, or the man trying to clean up the mess you made?”

So how’s George W. Obama doing cleaning up that “mess”? Did his tripling Bush’s budget or wasting taxpayer’s money by bailing out the automakers and “stimulating” the pockets of the Congressional pork projects help any? LOL! The dream of the Obama saving the world was all a hoax. The Dems are doing nothing but bending you over as we speak.

You’re still lost in the HopeNChange fog.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:29 pm 101. AThinkingPerson:

Mike W: “Conservative Republican’s recent obsession with behinds is pretty disturbing.”

So pointing out the fact that our Dear Leader George W. Obama was caught checking out some chickie’s goods at the G8 summit is “pretty disturbing”? I’d love to hear the terms you used when Clinton got a BJ from Monica in the oval office. Was it “horrific”? LOL!

Who can blame Obama when the alternative is Michelle. Ew.

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:34 pm 102. AF_Vet:

“Last time I checked, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch, not Clinton’s.”

Last time I checked, this 26-year high unemployment happened on Barry’s watch; this Recession happened under Barry’s watch.

See how that works?

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:43 pm 103. Janegirl:

Go back to Kos – Mike and White Helmet – we have more important things to discuss

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:47 pm 104. Claudio:

The “woman” ís a 17 year old girl. She lives in a poor region and was select by UNICEF after a contest or something.

Hey, don’t impeach Obama. He is leveling the playing field for the rest of us. Please, keep him in WH for 8 years!!!

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:59 pm 105. Marie Claude:

the girl was even 16 in certain papers, but actually look much older, so this can’t be a motive to salt Obama’s attitude with moral compassement, then Sarko too, but in his case you would say, it’s soooo french, and that lubric Berlusconi organised the misses festival, decent enough cuz the world focused, otherwise he wouldn’t’ bother…

Jul 10, 2009 - 1:59 pm 106. JFM:

In my state it’s 13 with the parents consent. Without it, as we say in my neck of the woods;
“Under 16, protected by law, over 60 protected by nature”

It is 18 within the range of my gun.

Jul 10, 2009 - 2:00 pm 107. Mike W.:

101. AThinkingPerson: “So pointing out the fact that our Dear Leader George W. Obama was caught checking out some chickie’s goods at the G8 summit is “pretty disturbing”?”

Pointing it out is not distubing. Obsessing over it like a bunch of sexually repressed 16 year olds at the expense of any other important news about the G8 Summit frankly is disturbing. And that is what the GOP has been doing all day. You stay classy, GOP.

Who can blame Obama when the alternative is Michelle. Ew.

And leave it to “family values” Republicans to attack someone’s wife. You stay classy, GOP.

Jul 10, 2009 - 2:06 pm 108. JFM:

About those scientists voting democrat it reminds me what someone told to Hanibal: You know how to win battles but not what to do of your victories”. Translation: Outside your field of expertose you have an IQ under 50″

It happens I know a few scientists, one of them in the Nobel class and in social and political matters he is npt only stupid beyond measure, he also has the mental stability of a three years old.

Tell me when engineers, working in the private sector not in academia, vote democrat. Preferently engineers who are not rich white kids.

Jul 10, 2009 - 2:10 pm 109. cubedweller:

18, 107: Laughable to be upset about snickering over unflattering pictures of The One when the left/MSM has been at Sarah Palin and her family non-stop for a year. Plus, you high-minded, tolerant, inclusive progressives snickered over the putative butt-grab photo of McCain at the debates. To quote the late-night comics when conservatives complained, “hey, can’t you take a joke?”

15: Indeed he did – thanks to a fiscally conservative congress at the time who forced Clinton into welfare reform and a balanced budget, but forgot what they were there for during the Bush administration, and took the recent drubbing they deserved. Bush did kick up the spending (prescription plan, education bill co-authored by Kennedy) and we conservatives did complain. The One ramped it into overdrive, tripled it and is looking for more.

Also, the dot-com bubble burst just before Bush took office in 2001, and we had a slump because of that, which tax cuts brought us out of. I don’t remember him whining, “It’s Clinton’s fault” about that!

Jul 10, 2009 - 2:45 pm 110. ked5:

13. RE:

Economic pain has still yet to hit a a large segment of the population. But it will soon enough.

It’s like we cut the engine driving 75 mph and we’re still rolling due to our momentum. They look out the window and see we’re still rolling, so ‘not to worry’. But people are gonna freak once they’ve come to a stop and realize that the engine won’t restart.

~~~~~

and there’s a tanker truck coming at full speed . . .

Jul 10, 2009 - 2:51 pm 111. Peter the Bubblehead:

87. Mike W.:
Last time I checked, 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch, not Clinton’s.

Peter writes: Liberal blather nbever changes. “It’s all Bush’s fault! Even when it isn’t, it’s Bush’s fault.”

Let’s take this from the top again, shall we?

1993 – First WTC attack – Under the Clinton administration.
1996 – Khobar Towers Attack – Under Clinton.
1998 – African Embassy Attacks – Under Clinton.
2000 – USS Cole Attack – Under Clinton.
Planning for the 9/11 attack – Started in 1996 lasting almost 5 years! – Under Clinton.

Bush was barely in office when 9/11 occurred. If Clinton had done his job as POTUS and PROTECTED the USA and its citizens instead of chasin inters around the Oval Office, 9/11 would never have OCCURRED under Bush or ANY President!

Refute that, you liberal loon!

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:03 pm 112. Delia:

Krikeyyyyyyyyy.

The Case for Doing Nothing

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:06 pm 113. Glass:

From post at small dead animals.

Just leave it to this American version of turdeau to screw things up for good, this bozo is about as dumb as they come. His whole administration are a bunch of financial illiterates. I don’t think there is one of them that understand the roll the speculators, be they longs or shorts, play in the free market system. If something’s not working properly, fix it, you don’t destroy your whole car if you have a flat tire. These idiots would tear apart the only thing that works and has worked for centuries for their idiotic dreams of financial nirvana.

Hello China, Hello India, Hello Brazil. Hello anyone that is 180 degrees opposite to this reality hick.

This p—k may well accomplish what the USSR couldn’t.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America the USSA.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:07 pm 114. AtheistConservative:

The funniest about the Obama Kool-Ade drinkers trying to pretend he wasn’t checking out the girl is that they don’t seem to know about the picture of him checking out Carla Bruni – for you lefties, that’s Sarkozy’s wife (for you really lefties, that’s the President of France).

Obama sucks. He’s a complete fraud. But he’s just a guy. And it’s funny. When will you prudish lefties stop being so mortified about sex and loosen up?

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:12 pm 115. billslayer:

I would actually have to ask our democratic guests in the forum if by any conceivable stretch of the imagination you can actually see Clinton actually doing any of the patently retarded moves that the tent revival con man has done? Yes, Clinton was better that Bush in the area of the economy, and he was head an shoulders better than Barack Obama. In fact, if you are going to throw Bush under the bus to get in line with the Obama error then you’re really also throwing Clinton under the bus.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:17 pm 116. The Sheriff's a...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGQ-ISsDm8M

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:21 pm 117. white helmet:

@ 94: I am not a “no blood for oil” fanatic. I HOPE it was at least a little bit about oil. I WISH we had gotten some preferential oil deliveries as result. We didn’t. Right? So if it was for oil, we lost; if it wasn’t, what were we doing there at such a cost?

A Thinking Person @ 100: think a little harder; Obama’s had a mere 6 months to clean up Bush’s 8 years of deficits, earmarks, bridges to nowhere, FEMA mismagement and republican corruption. Bush’s man, Paulsen wanted 700 billion to start the healing in September 2008 alone. Just what do you think he’s be asking for now? Just keep patting yourself on that unoccupied head–Bush caused it; the voters know it. You know it!

Janegirl at 103: like what do you possibly have to discuss? Obama looking at someone’s rear? (if it was–see the video); how mad you all are that Bush wasn’t elected to spend more deficits with a corrupt congress? How the republicans are sweating out every candidate they have since all of them turn up in Utah stalls, with mistresses or having mom and dad pay off the mistresses? (There’s another tax!! The mistress tax!!!)Hey!….Maybe we could discuss it over some tax subsidized Cristal?

Peter the aptly named Bubblehead @ 111: Clinton tried shooting off some cruise missles and the republicans accused him of trying to distract the country from the all important monicagate–good choice of focus there republicans! That was a big help! Back inside your Bubble peter.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:24 pm 118. billslayer:

I would also have to ask our democrat friends if they’ve ever considered that environmentalism is essentially a religion? Is it not an atavistic regression to animism in the absence of the anthropomorphic deity? Why are my taxpayer dollars paying for your religions take on eschatology?

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:26 pm 119. seansarto:

It’s only when yer walkin’ upright, an’ straight on nudewise, ya can be sure a woman’s a woman an’ a man’s a man…that’s the designs of it…from the backside she could be a man. Primal. I’m more of a breast man…that’s how ya know a smarter baby….knows where it’s meals are commin’ from.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:33 pm 120. TheMightyMonarch:

#83, KB:

Your comment about trying to set expectations about what a robust economy “should” look like rings more true today than ever. The actions taken by the Democrat president and Congress are designed to pull forward demand on what is essentially a tapped-out taxpayer base. Our last two booms (tech and housing) were highly speculative and debt-financed; now Congress is desperately trying to find another boom at a time where people not only lack the means to take on more debt, but have essentially run out of crap to buy. Companies are hunkering down, deleveraging and firing workers; this is no time to take on additional debt, yet this is the kind of blood Obambi and the Congress are trying to squeeze out of the turnip.

You can funnel all the money you want to your banker buddies (as the current and former administrations have done), but the ugly truth is that these banks are INSOLVENT, and by a staggering amount that no bailout can ever hope to cover. Banks are now stuck in an untenable position; they can’t leverage themselves further but they also are dealing with a shrinking loan market; there are simply too few people who are willing or able to service the debt.

Most people have no idea of the hell that is about to be unleashed on us. The banks are trying to sweep things under the rug, move money around and feign robustness, but soon they are going to have to answer to cash flow (just because you suddenly decide that a mortgage 30 days late is no longer “delinquent” doesn’t make the mortgage payment magically appear). Unfortunately they’re going to find that government can no longer service the debt they have incurred; banks will go under, the FDIC will be overwhelmed, and much like the 1930s, people will lose everything.

The federal government is going to end up becoming the last entity to finally admit that our economy must contract in order to bring things back into balance (based on real production and not on debt). Banks must be forced to write off the bad debt and declare bankruptcy. Housing prices must contract to levels where average people can afford them (and no more of this 100% financing crap…at least 20% down or you keep renting), and government must give up on the socialist utopian idea that every necessity of the population can be provided for in abundance and in perpetuity by government.

Jul 10, 2009 - 3:59 pm 121. Thomas:

During the last (Bush) years Republicans became complacent, they just laid back, forgot to govern, became bereft of sound ideas, they sank into passivity and – as the Cajun saying goes – enjoyed the “Laissez les bon temps roulez”. Bush 2nd term was overshadowed by a defeatist mentality, he got intimidated by the relentless assault from the left – and with his amnesty zeal he made enemies out of allies.

The same lame impotence by the last Czar in Russia made possible the Bolshevik takeover over there – and the ascent of the Messiah and his tawdry coterie (mostly from the tribe that cannot be named) over here – followed by Marxist iron clad rule that lasted some 70 years until
a new leader emerged (Putin) who got rid of the Commies, Multiculturalist, internationalists, the Soros gang and restored his nation cultural heritage and pride.

Before you start getting into Putin’s (I am not a Russophile) I want to stress my post is not about him but my theoretical support for the METHOD that he used and needed to be applied towards the Leftists if you want to stop the absolute destruction of our nation by the Communist.

GOP’s McSatin gentlemanly demeanor can elicit only derision and contempt as recent events attested it. Leftist are rough people, they killed upward 100 million, without the modicum of compunction so your nice manners will lead you nowhere – only to the Queen’s boudoir.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:00 pm 122. Jeffrey:

Some people will be making excuses for Carter, Clinton and Obama while dirt is being shoveled on their face, it’s just their nature, bad fish are: bad fish and they will try and bite you while breathing their last breath. Some of the above are included in that category.
Polling is idiotic;
“Overall, 51% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance so far. Forty-eight percent (48%) now disapprove.”
So now we live in the movie “Idiocracy”? If 30% approve then 70% disapprove, just leave it at that! To say 51% somewhat (maybe approve on a sunny day but not when it’s cloudy) approve, what does that mean? Does part of that approval include those who think he’s cute? Hey he has a nice butt. Dah! I like him cause he’s sorta black. Dah! I like him cause he’s sorta white. WTF?
So 51% makes things sound a little better for the fools running the government. Remember congressional approval is in the toilet and has been for a long time. If this were a parliamentary form of government we could get a no confidence vote and throw the whole lot out on their keisters. (As a matter of fact I would like that written into the U.S. Constitution.) For a group with that approval rating how do they ever get re-elected? I smell corruption. There are dozens of cases of voter fraud being pursued. By the time the next election rolls around they’ll still be languishing in the courts most likely.
Bottom line; these evil freaks in charge of running our government don’t give a crap what most Americans think. After all they know more then us about us. They are the elite geniuses who can replace God and guns in our lives. They will teach us how to eat and drink how to live our daily lives. They will teach our kids never to rebel against their masters (them) and eventually try and breed or weed the naysayers out of the population. We are living in their wet dream where polls don’t matter; they control everything especially your money. They will drag us all to the grave if we let them; themselves too, for they are so dead they don’t even know they have one foot in the grave already.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:01 pm 123. noreen:

Thank god the Obama train looks like it is going to crash before he can take the country completely down. I look at his tumbling ratings with glee ! It’s about time people woke up . I have renewed faith in Americans. None of this debacle was a surprise. Anybody with eyes to see and a brain to think could have predicted all of this coming. The day will come when his ratings look worse than Congress’s

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:12 pm 124. Войска ПВО:

109 cubedweller writes:

Also, the dot-com bubble burst just before Bush took office in 2001, and we had a slump because of that, which tax cuts brought us out of. I don’t remember him whining, “It’s Clinton’s fault” about that!”

..Good call, cubedweller. It is a fact conveniently overlooked by liberals and people enamored of the Clintonian legacy of surpluses. Not to be too parochial, but the IT segment of our economy saw a tremendous downturn lasting through 2003 what with Y2K programmers getting their papers post Y2K, the aformentioned dot-com bust, and all of the work being off-shored to Bangalore and Hyderabad. (That’s India to geo-challenged leftists.)

But, revise away, libs. Your Boy King can’t get it right whether he stares at some 17-year-old Brazilian’s fanny or he smooches the posterior of dictators on his apology tours. He’s tanking and knows not why..

..and like him, you guys have no freaking clue.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:41 pm 125. misanthropicus:

RE #41/fear Obama Re: 30. Войска ПВО: [...] Hopenchange is not gay. But after seeing sheeshs comments- Bambi was trying to avoid stepping on his tongue. [...]

Hey, I never had sex with that person, Larry Sinclair!

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:41 pm 126. Войска ПВО:

122. Jeffrey writes:

“So now we live in the movie “Idiocracy”? If 30% approve then 70% disapprove, just leave it at that! To say 51% somewhat (maybe approve on a sunny day but not when it’s cloudy) approve, what does that mean? Does part of that approval include those who think he’s cute? Hey he has a nice butt. Dah! I like him cause he’s sorta black. Dah! I like him cause he’s sorta white. WTF?”

Jeff, that’s why Rasmussen went to the strongly approve/strongly disapprove numbers. Scott characterizes “strongly” as being motivated to talk to friends and associates or do something about their opinion. You should take a look at the definite trend in just six months. He has gone from 43% to 30% who strongly approve and, conversely, 20% to 38% who strongly disapprove. If you factor in the wusses and namby-pambies, his total disapproval has gone from 34% to 48% It is a steady, unhalting monthly decline and completely attributable to The Boy King’s lack of executive ability and doofus posturing. I suspect it will bottom out somewhere around 30-35% approval (the Kool-Aid drinkers) as the economy crumbles.

Ironically, if the stiffs in congress (Democrat and Repubican) get tossed out on their asses in 2010 and replaced with people who are financially conservative, then his approval may rise. You know, like Clinton’s did after 1994.

Then maybe he too will be able to gawk at OTM (Other-than-Michelle’s) female posteriors more comfortably.

Jul 10, 2009 - 4:59 pm 127. steeple:

for those like #77 who opine without researching, allow me to share the story from the WSJ earlier this week about the integrity and transparency of science at this administration’s EPA:

Wherever Jim Hansen is right now — whatever speech the “censored” NASA scientist is giving — perhaps he’ll find time to mention the plight of Alan Carlin. Though don’t count on it.

Mr. Hansen, as everyone in this solar system knows, is the director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Starting in 2004, he launched a campaign against the Bush administration, claiming it was censoring his global-warming thoughts and fiddling with the science. It was all a bit of a hoot, given Mr. Hansen was already a world-famous devotee of the theory of man-made global warming, a reputation earned with some 1,400 speeches he’d given, many while working for Mr. Bush. But it gave Democrats a fun talking point, one the Obama team later picked up.

Alan Carlin, 35-year Environmental Protection Agency veteran
.So much so that one of President Barack Obama’s first acts was a memo to agencies demanding new transparency in government, and science. The nominee to head the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), Lisa Jackson, joined in, exclaiming, “As administrator, I will ensure EPA’s efforts to address the environmental crises of today are rooted in three fundamental values: science-based policies and program, adherence to the rule of law, and overwhelming transparency.” In case anyone missed the point, Mr. Obama took another shot at his predecessors in April, vowing that “the days of science taking a backseat to ideology are over.”

Except, that is, when it comes to Mr. Carlin, a senior analyst in the EPA’s National Center for Environmental Economics and a 35-year veteran of the agency. In March, the Obama EPA prepared to engage the global-warming debate in an astounding new way, by issuing an “endangerment” finding on carbon. It establishes that carbon is a pollutant, and thereby gives the EPA the authority to regulate it — even if Congress doesn’t act.

Around this time, Mr. Carlin and a colleague presented a 98-page analysis arguing the agency should take another look, as the science behind man-made global warming is inconclusive at best. The analysis noted that global temperatures were on a downward trend. It pointed out problems with climate models. It highlighted new research that contradicts apocalyptic scenarios. “We believe our concerns and reservations are sufficiently important to warrant a serious review of the science by EPA,” the report read.

The response to Mr. Carlin was an email from his boss, Al McGartland, forbidding him from “any direct communication” with anyone outside of his office with regard to his analysis. When Mr. Carlin tried again to disseminate his analysis, Mr. McGartland decreed: “The administrator and the administration have decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision. . . . I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office.” (Emphasis added.)

Mr. McGartland blasted yet another email: “With the endangerment finding nearly final, you need to move on to other issues and subjects. I don’t want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate change. No papers, no research etc, at least until we see what EPA is going to do with Climate.” Ideology? Nope, not here. Just us science folk. Honest.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:46 pm 128. ked5:

53. Libertyship46:
we now have St. Obama, the man the mainstream media said was going to deliver us from all evils, both economic and foreign.

~~~
he has delivered us from evil. The evil of economic prosperity and the evil of military power. Oh, and the evil of telling the two-bit penny ante dictators that they are two-bit penny ante dictators.

Jul 10, 2009 - 5:56 pm 129. eman:

Just ask Obama and his supporters one simple question.

“Why do you love America?”

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:12 pm 130. Mike2:

47. maak:
“We can’t afford to be complacent. The administration is constantly in campaign mode. Lefties (Moveon.org, ACORN, Liberal blog people, etc.) are STILL fueled by “Bush is Bad”, “Bush stole the election”, “Clinton was mistreated in Lewinsky scandal”, and “Isn’t it wonderful that we have a black president”. They’re not going to let up and I wouldn’t count on the MSM seeing the light.”

You got that right, especially the point about the MSM. I predict that they will start using the threat of a Cheney comeback later on this year.

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:21 pm 131. Peter the Bubblehead:

117. white helmet wrote:
Clinton tried shooting off some cruise missles and the republicans accused him of trying to distract the country from the all important monicagate–good choice of focus there republicans! That was a big help!

Peter writes: THANK YOU for EXACTLY PROVING MY POINT!!!

Clinton did NOTHING to protect this country. Al Qaeda has been at war with this country since 1993! 1993!!! And Clinton decided it was a LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM, tossed a few useless TLAMs at empty tents, and went back to playing hide the salami underneath the Oval Office desk!

If he had done what he was supposed to do, LIKE BUSH ACTUALLY DID, and take the fight to the enemy, maybe 19 Marines would have still been alive in 1995, HUNDREDS of people in the African Embassies would still be alive, 17 sailors on the Cole would still be alive, and THOUSANDS of Americans and other nationalities would still be alive in NYC, DC and on Flt 93!

Get it through your THICK LIBERAL SKULL, Clinton did NOT do his job!

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:28 pm 132. Brian:

A survey (http://people-press.org/report/528/) of more than 2,500 scientists

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:47 pm 133. Brian:

A survey (http://people-press.org/report/528/) of more than 2,500 scientists

Proof that you can make statistics say anything you like! I love the part about how more than half of half the people surveyed!! Wouldnt this be about 25% of the total surveyed? And why did they as the question of the other people? Isnt that the point in a survey? Or maybe they asked the question (more likely) but threw out the answers because it didnt fit the stats they wanted to show!
I love statistics!

Jul 10, 2009 - 6:50 pm 134. D Foster:

So, let me get this right, Obama and Biden are heading for a deep six crash, the Democrats in Congress and MSM will see the error in supporting Obama and the Far Left Agenda.The voter will demand changes and call for a change.

Even if this is so, are we to look to “Republicans” in Washington to set a course for Business and Lower tax Rates on Corporations and Individuals. There are no pro business conservatives in Washington. They are all “Politicians”. That means they are not on our side. They are “Politicians”.

We are in deep deep trouble, the Political Class remain out of touch to the Working Class. There is no leadership coming from the Political Right. This is how we end up with Obama and Biden. Have you all thought about Joe Biden being the Vice president of the United States. No Senator should be allowed to become President or Vice President.
I REPEAT, WE ARE IN DEEP DEEP TROUBLE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR POLITICAL LEADERSHIP.
So, we can all agree that Obama and Biden are in over their head, but, so is Congress and every bureaucrat working there. Maybe we get what we deserve.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:23 pm 135. Strawman:

Actually, if you read the survey, it isn’t 2500 scientists, it’s 2500 members of the AAAS.

To see what it takes to join the AAAS, look here:

http://www.aaas.org/membership/

Question for the class: what does it take to join the AAAS?

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:24 pm 136. seansarto:

This is a little off-topic but it all seems ta funnel back towards the time when the Clinton’s moved to New York, hopin’ ta loot a little more….the “trend”..or virus at work…That was about the time JLo, another “wise Latina”, (Who was dating Obama Diddy), took out her insurance policy on her rump…Not exactly “Salt of the Earth” is it?

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:34 pm 137. Samizdat:

White helemet at 117,

Re the 700 in TARP funds you refered to in your laundry list of Bush faults. 350 billion was spent by Paulson and company. However, Bush asked the President elect in December if Obama wanted the other 350 released and Obama said yes. It was the One who spent those funds, not Bush and Paulson. Bush has many faults, I would include No Child Left Behind, Medicare Prescription Drug Benefits, Failure to cut the size of government, wasteful spending, and inarticulate defense of his policies. However, he only spent half the TARP funds.

I close pointing out that for all Bushes mistakes he never commited the country to the chunk of spending that President Obama has commited to. The government is consuming a much larger percentage of GDP than it has in many years. This always ends in disaster, because capital is siphoned away from the private sector where wealth and jobs are created. Current liberals always make the same mistake, they kill the source of expanding tax revenue that they could employ to fund all their social policies and causes. If they ever figure out that if they unleash the forces of free enterprise they will create a revenue stream they can divert to their causes, conservatives would become a nongoverning minority for a very long time. Liberals don’t understand Laffer, Friedman and other progrowth economic policy advocates and because they don’t it is inevitable that they will create weak growth, inflation, and high unemployment, conditions that the majority of voters won’t tolerate for long. That’s their cross to bear and it is going to get impossibly heavy very soon. The worst is yet to come and the “stimulus” has already been appropriated. There are no more funds available for a 2nd round. Stupid is as stupid does.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:44 pm 138. AThinkingPerson:

Re #117 White helmet: Your helmet is on too tight. Nice to get your facts off the HuffPo.

What the voters know is what the recent polls tell us, Obama is sinking faster than a turd in a punchbowl. Facts do speak for themselves whitehelmet.

Welcome to reality.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:53 pm 139. seansarto:

Another thing…”Sean P.”Diddiy was an acknowledged drug dealer, so you can see the parallel in Obama’s leanings towards the government’s regulating of the “pharmaceutical” end of Healthcare as “policy” and economic viability….Pass bills ta herd folks away from tobacco then push for legal marijuana…”Hey! Washington grew hemp!”…Some cop should go check out what’s growing in the White House “garden”.

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:53 pm 140. AThinkingPerson:

Re #107 Mike W: “”Pointing it out is not distubing. Obsessing over it like a bunch of sexually repressed 16 year olds at the expense of any other important news about the G8 Summit frankly is disturbing. And that is what the GOP has been doing all day. You stay classy, GOP.

Who can blame Obama when the alternative is Michelle. Ew.

And leave it to “family values” Republicans to attack someone’s wife. You stay classy, GOP.”"

Classy is as classy does….

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090709/ids_photos_wl/r3356552547.jpg/

Please…more family stories from the party that brought us the Clintons and the Kennedy’s please, please, please????

Jul 10, 2009 - 7:55 pm 141. AThinkingPerson:

White Helmet: Some facts for you that shows what those pesky voters are now thinking of our hot mess George W. Obama. (I know you’re usually not a stickler for facts, but here they are just in case you have a hankering for a bit o’reality.)

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues/trust_on_issues

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:05 pm 142. Sassy says:

Many in the world are seeing the America president is a poser. We hate to say “told you so” because it is my country too.

We have fought wars to defend against the very regime now in power. Robbers and looters that would destroy the economy, our national defense, our freedoms and stealing from the future of our children for the sake of power and control.

–
As a Russian leader once said, “we will destroy you not with missiles but from within.” We are now beginning to see the handwriting on the wall. This was our first inept and uneducated generation and they only needed a slick and glib flim-flam man…

Ladies and gentleman I give you the facist wannabe dictator, Barack Obama…”the one”.

Facist

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:37 pm 143. Andrew_M_Garland:

Here are a few thoughts about how Obama’s government is making things worse.

Why Spending Stimulus Plans Fail
The money isn’t free. It is taken from the people who plan and invest in productive organizations. This destroys jobs and lowers income. The money is then given to government agencies who increase budgets or fix potholes. This is a form of government consumption. Investment is turned into consumption, and job expansion is killed.

A Tested Stimulus Plan
The economic crisis is the result of a giant six year stimulus provided by housing loans. As you can tell, it worked for a while and ended in disaster. What will the current so called stimulus plans produce when the money runs out? We know the answer: an economy like the current one, but somewhat worse.

Stimulus Does Not Cure a Recession
Jobs change when people change what they want to buy or can afford. It is possible to keep people at their money-losing jobs for a bit longer, only by wasting the savings that should be financing a real recovery.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:44 pm 144. harry:

Sheesh is the biggest jerk in the world. He continues to see Obama through a kaleidoscope. Get over it numbnuts he and the dumbocrats are destroying America far worse and quicker than your favorite whipping boy GWB. You’re lost pal.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:46 pm 145. Where's the money?:

Where did the billions and billions of dollars go and why can’t we find out? We need to DEMAND that there be a freeze on all funds and the money be given back.

Chicago on the Potomac doesn’t even begin to describe the theft from the American taxpayers. Now these criminals are trying to do it again and again with the Cap & Tax scam and the take over of health care and business and…well you can see the agenda.

“Create a crisis” is right out of the play books of history’s dictatorships.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:50 pm 146. Sassy says:

Where did the billions and billions of dollars go and why can’t we find out? We need to DEMAND that there be a freeze on all funds and the money be given back.

Chicago on the Potomac doesn’t even begin to describe the theft from the American taxpayers. Now these criminals are trying to do it again and again with the Cap & Tax scam and the take over of health care and business and…well you can see the agenda.

“Create a crisis” is right out of the play books of history’s dictatorships.

Jul 10, 2009 - 8:53 pm 147. white helmet:

Peter @ 131: By that logic, Reagan is faulted for not “doing somehting” after Beruit, and George HW Bush let the 1993 attack on the towers occur by his inaction up thru Jan 20 1992. What you’re missing (and I’m missing a party with all the Al Gore types and have to head back) is that Clinton avoided an attack on US soil; tried to do something and the republicans did not support it at all. They called it a distraction. But at least you’re not calling names all day. I suppsoe we could argue this one back to Nixon.

A Clueless Person at 138: Got my facts from the Wall St Journal; polls by the way, were the other way in 2008: do you get your facts from polls? From your post at 141 I guess so: hint: polls are not facts; Try some light reading: republican DNA is all over this recession. The fact that Obama cannot fix it in 6 months (Thinking Person: “wahhhhhh. Are we there yet?”) does not mean that he made it, or is acting irresponsibly. All you have done is whine that he isn’t fixing Bush’s mess fast enough. So sorry: cleaning up a mess takes longer than making it. Leave the cleaning up to the grownups.

WHERE’S THE MONEY @ 145: So lets not put the republicans back into power to make any more crises, right?

Jul 10, 2009 - 9:16 pm 148. Carol/la:

Try reading the “Cloward Piven” strategy/theory. Sounds like they’re describing what is going on now. Overload..

Jul 10, 2009 - 9:44 pm 149. paul_unalaska:

Folks, on the upside of things – 4 Immigration Enforcement Amendments passed this week! You see the progress made when Teleprompter Guy is out of the country?

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/news/july-8-2009/call-your-senators-now-support-sen-sessions-e-verify-amendment.html

I know I know. Pelosi, Reid and Mo, I mean Empty Suit may squash this little victory.. but it’s a little piece of Justice Pie considering the dire issues..

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:01 pm 150. paul_unalaska:

white helmet, will you be using the same, ‘..Obama can’t fix it in 6 months..’ drivel 3, 6, 12 and 24 months from now as well?

The ‘man’ has no experience fixing anything! Chicago, the city he community organized, ‘et tu Brute’d his way to Senator, had more homicides in 2008 than American soldiers killed in Iraq last year! I got the soldiers #’s from the classy CNN to boot.. http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/30/iraq.main/index.html

Here’s Shy towns pitiful #’s.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

This gerrymander can’t even fix his man boobs.

He thinks there’s an Austrian language! An Ipod with speeches(?) for the Queen? Shaking hands with Khadafi, Chavez, Castro brothers, is for the ousted Honduras jackass President!

He’s mum on Iran, sees he’s losing media face, fires up his teleprompter and does a 360, trying to reclaim his, ahem.. toughness?!

Are you really that dense??

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:28 pm 151. paul_unalaska:

The worst crime as of THIS week is to tax the motivated, successful (i.e. business owners who provide JOBS, donate their money for parks, playgrounds, meals for those less fortunate et al.) people to provide ‘universal’ health care for the have-nots.

Why do you think those with money have been leaving Cali for years? Now, many of these successful people will lay off or close their business(es) because ‘Spread the Wealth Around’ is against every ethical move they’ve made to be where they are. It’ll be Cali on a nationwide scale. I do hope I’m wrong. Truly!

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:37 pm 152. 8 My Foot:

#142:
Krushchev said it best (paraphrasing) “You do not have to worry about the USSR destroying America. No. We are not your problem. America will destroy itself!”.

Jul 10, 2009 - 10:50 pm 153. stex:

This is Carter II in fast forward.

It is two trains running fast forward aginst each one and guess who wins!

No one!

Jul 10, 2009 - 11:14 pm 154. JFM:

All you have done is whine that he isn’t fixing Bush’s mess fast enough.

Bush’s? It is the Congress who votes budgets. Also tell me who was heading Freddy Mac and for which party lean the unions who ran Detroit into the ground?

Anyway the thing about not fixing fat enough the messthe mess legated by his predecessor applies by Bush respective to Al Quaida.

But nobosy in this blog discusses about Obama not fixing fast enough the mess let by Bush 43 and the Democratic Congress (that is the people who vote budgets), the implosion of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac (tdue to legislation voted by Democrats that Bush 43 unsuccessfully tried to change) and the sinking of Detroit (run into to the ground by Democratic controlled union). But people aren’t whining about Obama not fixing the “legated” mess. No, what people are whining is Obama making things worse and the discussion is on if he is doing it because he is a moron on economics or if he is doing it on purpose because he hates America and wants to break its back once and for all.

Jul 11, 2009 - 12:16 am 155. Realist:

Mike W I bet the thousands of Kurds that were killed by POISON GAS wished you were right about Saddam not having WMD’s. But hey Moonbats like you and the other libtards posting here never let TRUTH get in the way of a good old Bush Bashing do you.

Jul 11, 2009 - 12:56 am 156. vivo:

29. Samizdat:

“Vivo@ 14,
The economy has many complex elements but reviving it is relatively simple, create favorable conditions for risk taking.”

What you wrote makes sense. And nobody is moving a finger. So, here we are . . .

25. JFM, 37. Mongoose, 54. Conservative1:

Same old drivel. Negative trumps positive.

Jul 11, 2009 - 3:40 am 157. 8 My Foot:

Somebody get JFM a spell check and new keyboard.

Jul 11, 2009 - 4:39 am 158. Meryl:

145. Where’s the Money? (and 146??? Identical posts, different names? What’s that about?)

“‘Create a crisis’ is right out of the play books of history’s dictatorships.”

Reflected also by Sun Tzu re skills of war, “Should one ask: ‘How do I cope with a well-ordered host about to attck me?’ I reaply: ‘Seize something he cherishes and he will conform to your desires.’”

This would explain why Col. obama makes no bones about going after the heart of America in manufacturing, health, personal independence in all forms, personal faith and individual liberty.

Jul 11, 2009 - 6:43 am 159. Meryl:

Some more background on WMD’s since the unAmerican lefties can’t seem to let that one go.

General Georges Sada, an Iraqi General, wrote in 2006, “When I speak here about weapons of mass destruction, I am referring to the biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons that Saddam had built or was trying to build. Everyone in the international arms community knew tat Saddam had them and that he was spending like a sailor to buy more.”

Also, “In a July 2003 interview on CNN, former President Bill Clinton said, ‘People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever; but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted-for stocks of biological and chemical weapons.’”

Further from General Sada, “…Representative Nancy Pelosi said, ‘Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region.’”

General Sada concludes, “There are members of the Democratic Party in America who oppose the war today who understood the risks involved in Saddam’s possession of WMDs and said as much as of the time. President Clinton’s National Security Adverser, Sandy Berger, warned, ‘He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.’ SO THE FACT THAT WMDS WERE PRESENT WAS NEVER A SECRET.”

“Saddam’s Secrets”, General Georges Sadas, 2006

Jul 11, 2009 - 6:57 am 160. JFM:

MyFoot said

Somebody get JFM a spell check and new keyboard

Somebody get you a brain.

Jul 11, 2009 - 7:40 am 161. Peter the Bubblehead:

147. white helmet wrote:
…and George HW Bush let the 1993 attack on the towers occur by his inaction up thru Jan 20 1992.

Peter writes: FACTS, you liberal idiot, FACTS.
Ramzi Yousef arrived in the United States on September 1, 1992, traveling with Ahmed Ajaj from Pakistan. They were barely in the US before Clinton was elected President. The planning for the 1993 WTC attack did not even BEGIN until late 1992, little time for Bush41’s intelligence organizations to learn of the attack, which since it was a small cell, would not have put up noticable flags anyway.

The point being, I would not even blame Clinton for the 1993 attack on the WTC. I DO blame him for his lack of action in the aftermath. Al Qaeda PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED, following the 1993 attack, that they were at war with us. And what did Clinton do? Asked some police men to look into it and went back to chasing skirts around the Oval Office. Again I say, had Clinton DONE HIS JOB, to PROTECT the USA, the later and ever bolder attacks on the US that followed in 1995, 1998, 2000, and 2001 (ALL UNDER CLINTON) would NEVER have occurred.

As for Reagan, gee he built up the US military to it’s greatest strength in this country’s history, caused the Berlin Wall to fall, the collapse of Communism and the end of the Cold War. Yeah, you’re right, Reagan did NOTHINg to protect this nation. (sarc)

Jul 11, 2009 - 8:02 am 162. Sebastian Shaw:

President Obama, who is truly an empty suit, needs leadership skills to buoy him & find a good direction out of recession; however, Obama is completely incompetent while still trying to remake America into some kind of Communist Collective. Given the high unemployment keeps going up, Obama will be stopped by other self-serving Democrats who want to keep their jobs for the 2010 elections. Taxes & inflation will also play big roles for the Democrats that hurt America thanks to Obama’s obsession to spend us out of a recession with his War on Capitalism.

We have been here before when a peanut farmer from Georgia became President of the United State. President Obama is following in the footsteps of disgraced persona non-grata, Jimmy Carter. Stagflation & the Misery Index are coming back.This is what President Obama has given birth to. Isn’t he special?

Despite the Democrats attempt to rewrite history, the Democrats ignored Jimmy Carter for 20 years before they acknowledged the peanut farmer once more. I believe history will repeat itself moreso than before & the Democrats will be a damaged brand by President Obama’s Marxism.

Jul 11, 2009 - 8:56 am 163. 8 My Foot:

160: JFM
Hey clown, I was joking. You must be a miserable person to live with.

Jul 11, 2009 - 6:04 pm 164. JackT:

The Republicans are the masters of spin (lies).

Jul 11, 2009 - 6:52 pm 165. Oakley:

Is the sleeping giant beginning to arouse and hear the wake up call? Dear God, let’s hope so.

Jul 11, 2009 - 10:02 pm 166. JFM:

To my Foot:

Apologies. Many people resort to sneers at my typing when they are unable to counter my arguments and I take that as cheating. But you are right my typing is atrocious and I should check before postinG

Jul 11, 2009 - 11:06 pm 167. Войска ПВО:

#164 JackT: What a witty riposte. You must have really wracked your pea-brain coming up with that one, man.

Jul 12, 2009 - 4:48 am 168. Bohemond:

“….who will be responsible for saving our country from the brink of crisis”

Gee, MikeW, I wonder what the source of this snippet might be?

Being a pragmatic guy, I’d prefer it if you called back when you had a survey of *engineers.* You know, guys who actually have to design stuff that works in the real world.

Jul 12, 2009 - 3:59 pm 169. 8 My Foot:

166 JFM:
It’s cool. I learned a long time ago things get misinterpreted, that’s why I put a smiley afterwards.
But I’m the last one to criticise people for their spelling. Hope you’re having a good weekend.

Jul 12, 2009 - 5:07 pm 170. Typos_R_Us:

66. Strawman:

From someone who wouldn’t know a proton from a crouton.

Quick: which one’s made out of quarks (and no, I’m not talking about the Feringus)?

Croutons are optonal for a salad. Photons are standard.
BTW, the FAS isn’t. The Left has a different meaning for scientist. To a socialist, ANYONE with an advanced degree is a “Scientist”. In the real world a Scientist is someone who uses the scientific method to explore the Universe. A scientist doesn’t always have an advanced degree. Quite a few scientific advances are made by people doing research for their PhD.
On the other hand, most people employed in the upper echelons of government have an advanced degree.
That is why they are pro-government. What they are not is scientists.
But it sounds better to introduce yourself as a scientist rather then a bureaucrat. I’m almost 70 and I cannot recall anyone EVER introducing them self as a Bureaucrat.
when you research a list of liberal “scientists” you always find that the people on that list are Bureaucrats, Administrators or Professors (Which is a Teacher with a PhD.)
Seldom will you find a scientist.

Jul 13, 2009 - 12:38 pm 171. Strawman:

Actually, it’s not even that exclusive. If you follow the link in 135, the answer to that question is the one and only thing that it takes to be a member of the AAAS, and thus eligible to be called a “scientist” by that survey is…

Money.

Jul 13, 2009 - 6:35 pm

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