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		<title>By: Bugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, at least movie3 people have a relatively harmless outlet for their leftist impulses. Nobody really expects them to tell the truth and they can&#039;t force us to act in ways contrary to our own beliefs and interests. The same cannot be said of leftist news reporters or leftist politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, at least movie3 people have a relatively harmless outlet for their leftist impulses. Nobody really expects them to tell the truth and they can&#8217;t force us to act in ways contrary to our own beliefs and interests. The same cannot be said of leftist news reporters or leftist politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Rasczak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Rasczak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cfbleachers is right &quot;Deadwood media are acting in manner inconsistent with their own economic health and welfare, in order to sustain a worldview.&quot;

However, I don&#039;t think it is an institutional world view, but a PERSONAL one. 

Two factors are at work here. One is the &quot;birds of a feather...&quot; idea. George Will once quoted a New Yorker who said, with all honesty, &quot;I don&#039;t know how McGovern could have lost, everyone I know voted for him.&quot;  In a &quot;hard&quot; science or engineering one will hire and associate with people less on a matter of social compatibility than on basis of ability...(&quot;He may be a little wierd, but he knows more about Laminar flow than anyone else in the country.&quot;). Without objectively verifiable results, getting work in the arts or humanities becomes more a matter of who you know than what you know.

Secondly, the process of becoming a Leftist is a lot like the process of becoming dammed. It happens a little at a time but it is very difficult to go back.

Think a moment like a babyboomer. Lets say that in 1969 you were afraid of being drafted, so you began to loathe the military. You burned your draft card, yelled “Hell No We Won’t Go!” and did other various and sundry things.  Even though it is almost 40 years later, and even though you have seen Saigon fall, Pol Pot’s killing fields, the “yellow rain” on the Meo, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and 9-11; to turn around now and embrace the military means that what you, personally, did in the 60&#039;s was wrong.. If you are someone who spent years being openly and aggressively “anti-military”; if you suddenly admit that the kids who went to “Nam were doing the honorable, brave, patriotic, and even (dare we say it) heroic thing...what does that make you?

 That is a pretty emotionally uncomfortable place to go for a lot of people. It means admitting to yourself that your Dad was probably right when he said you were “...nothing but a lazy, pot smoking, cowardly little draft dodger...”. Nobody wants to do that.  So, no matter how much objective intellectual evidence you see, you won’t...do that...to much emotional pain attached to it. In fact psychologically you can’t, see the military as a group of heros; and your art will naturally enough reflect that.

Abortion is a similar tale. If you have had, or pushed a partner (or employee) to have an abortion, the guilt and pain that would follow from admitting to yourself that you had participated in the murder of an innocent child is going to be difficult to bear. You would have to see yourself as (literally) a “baby killer”. A few people are honest and strong enough to do this... many aren’t. 

The list goes on and on. If you have had several affairs, and are on your third trophy wife, the conventional Christian teachings on divorce and adultery will not be something you are comfortable hearing. People who bought or sold drugs will, (at least not until they complete rehab) be comfortable admitting the pain they caused others by so doing.

On a personal, and even a professional level it is psychologically easier to make a money losing movie that you and your friends like, rather than one that makes money but that people find upsetting and that offends their political positions, because for many of the children of the 60s the political IS the personal. If you attack a Conservative’s views you attack his views, but if you attack a Liberal’s views, you (often as not) attack his conscience. This provokes a much nastier and much more personal reaction.  Everyone agrees that John Milius is a brilliant film-make, but his resume has an almost three year long gap in it after he made RED DAWN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cfbleachers is right &#8220;Deadwood media are acting in manner inconsistent with their own economic health and welfare, in order to sustain a worldview.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think it is an institutional world view, but a PERSONAL one. </p>
<p>Two factors are at work here. One is the &#8220;birds of a feather&#8230;&#8221; idea. George Will once quoted a New Yorker who said, with all honesty, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how McGovern could have lost, everyone I know voted for him.&#8221;  In a &#8220;hard&#8221; science or engineering one will hire and associate with people less on a matter of social compatibility than on basis of ability&#8230;(&#8221;He may be a little wierd, but he knows more about Laminar flow than anyone else in the country.&#8221;). Without objectively verifiable results, getting work in the arts or humanities becomes more a matter of who you know than what you know.</p>
<p>Secondly, the process of becoming a Leftist is a lot like the process of becoming dammed. It happens a little at a time but it is very difficult to go back.</p>
<p>Think a moment like a babyboomer. Lets say that in 1969 you were afraid of being drafted, so you began to loathe the military. You burned your draft card, yelled “Hell No We Won’t Go!” and did other various and sundry things.  Even though it is almost 40 years later, and even though you have seen Saigon fall, Pol Pot’s killing fields, the “yellow rain” on the Meo, the fall of the Berlin Wall, and 9-11; to turn around now and embrace the military means that what you, personally, did in the 60&#8217;s was wrong.. If you are someone who spent years being openly and aggressively “anti-military”; if you suddenly admit that the kids who went to “Nam were doing the honorable, brave, patriotic, and even (dare we say it) heroic thing&#8230;what does that make you?</p>
<p> That is a pretty emotionally uncomfortable place to go for a lot of people. It means admitting to yourself that your Dad was probably right when he said you were “&#8230;nothing but a lazy, pot smoking, cowardly little draft dodger&#8230;”. Nobody wants to do that.  So, no matter how much objective intellectual evidence you see, you won’t&#8230;do that&#8230;to much emotional pain attached to it. In fact psychologically you can’t, see the military as a group of heros; and your art will naturally enough reflect that.</p>
<p>Abortion is a similar tale. If you have had, or pushed a partner (or employee) to have an abortion, the guilt and pain that would follow from admitting to yourself that you had participated in the murder of an innocent child is going to be difficult to bear. You would have to see yourself as (literally) a “baby killer”. A few people are honest and strong enough to do this&#8230; many aren’t. </p>
<p>The list goes on and on. If you have had several affairs, and are on your third trophy wife, the conventional Christian teachings on divorce and adultery will not be something you are comfortable hearing. People who bought or sold drugs will, (at least not until they complete rehab) be comfortable admitting the pain they caused others by so doing.</p>
<p>On a personal, and even a professional level it is psychologically easier to make a money losing movie that you and your friends like, rather than one that makes money but that people find upsetting and that offends their political positions, because for many of the children of the 60s the political IS the personal. If you attack a Conservative’s views you attack his views, but if you attack a Liberal’s views, you (often as not) attack his conscience. This provokes a much nastier and much more personal reaction.  Everyone agrees that John Milius is a brilliant film-make, but his resume has an almost three year long gap in it after he made RED DAWN.</p>
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		<title>By: Bugs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding movies, am I correct in believing that actors and directors have a lot more power than they used to in the &quot;movie mogul&quot; days? Perhaps it&#039;s just easier for these individuals to broadcast their beliefs and prejudices via their chosen medium. Being auteurs, they don&#039;t necessarily care about the bottom line - they just want to get their message out, to make &quot;important&quot; films, to be lauded by their peers at the Academy Awards, to take home the Palme d&#039;Or. Whether the general public enjoys what they produce - a minor consideration. What studio head today can tell Robert Redford not to make a movie he really believes in because the public will hate it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding movies, am I correct in believing that actors and directors have a lot more power than they used to in the &#8220;movie mogul&#8221; days? Perhaps it&#8217;s just easier for these individuals to broadcast their beliefs and prejudices via their chosen medium. Being auteurs, they don&#8217;t necessarily care about the bottom line &#8211; they just want to get their message out, to make &#8220;important&#8221; films, to be lauded by their peers at the Academy Awards, to take home the Palme d&#8217;Or. Whether the general public enjoys what they produce &#8211; a minor consideration. What studio head today can tell Robert Redford not to make a movie he really believes in because the public will hate it?</p>
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		<title>By: cfbleachers</title>
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		<dc:creator>cfbleachers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burt, if one was an arrogant prig...masquerading as an historian...one could ask &quot;What&#039;s the Matter with Manhattan?&quot;  or &quot;What&#039;s the Matter With Berkeley?&quot;

Deadwood media are acting in manner inconsistent with their own economic health and welfare, in order to sustain a worldview.

The fact that the worldview they choose to espouse is arrogant, narrow-minded, hypocritical, antagonistic, puerile, elitist, anti-military, anti-American, anti-Israel, poorly researched, poorly edited, oftentimes forged, plagiarized or fauxtography-filled....is of little moment to them.  It&#039;s intent is and has been to indoctrinate opinions, not stimulate debate.

It&#039;s intent is and has been to brainwash, not mind expand.  It&#039;s intent is and has been to grind out dissent, not advance discussion on topics of the day.

It&#039;s intent is and has been to paint corporate America in a bad light, to denigrate the military, to denounce certain faiths, to peer pressure the easily swayed.  It has become the Cultism of Communication.  Hollywood is an arm, deadwood media is an arm, academia is an arm, the alphabet newsrooms are an arm.  They have stifled, strangled, snuffed out not just dissent...but ANY voice expressing a different opinion within their confines.

Like a steam pressure valve...those points of view responded to the strangulation...by popping up in vents elsewhere.  The blogosphere, talk radio, Fox News.

The leftists cling to their elitism and antagonist-theism because &quot;belonging&quot; to the peer pressure accepted group is more important than their own welfare.  Certainly more important than the  free expression of ideas and absolutely more important than the welfare of the country to which they belong in name only....not in heart or soul.  These are people who are no longer proud to be Americans, they wish to be One World Socialists.  They have a residence here, but are Timeshare Americans.  

 &quot;What&#039;s Wrong with Press Row?&quot;  They sold out and bought into Timeshare America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burt, if one was an arrogant prig&#8230;masquerading as an historian&#8230;one could ask &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter with Manhattan?&#8221;  or &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter With Berkeley?&#8221;</p>
<p>Deadwood media are acting in manner inconsistent with their own economic health and welfare, in order to sustain a worldview.</p>
<p>The fact that the worldview they choose to espouse is arrogant, narrow-minded, hypocritical, antagonistic, puerile, elitist, anti-military, anti-American, anti-Israel, poorly researched, poorly edited, oftentimes forged, plagiarized or fauxtography-filled&#8230;.is of little moment to them.  It&#8217;s intent is and has been to indoctrinate opinions, not stimulate debate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s intent is and has been to brainwash, not mind expand.  It&#8217;s intent is and has been to grind out dissent, not advance discussion on topics of the day.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s intent is and has been to paint corporate America in a bad light, to denigrate the military, to denounce certain faiths, to peer pressure the easily swayed.  It has become the Cultism of Communication.  Hollywood is an arm, deadwood media is an arm, academia is an arm, the alphabet newsrooms are an arm.  They have stifled, strangled, snuffed out not just dissent&#8230;but ANY voice expressing a different opinion within their confines.</p>
<p>Like a steam pressure valve&#8230;those points of view responded to the strangulation&#8230;by popping up in vents elsewhere.  The blogosphere, talk radio, Fox News.</p>
<p>The leftists cling to their elitism and antagonist-theism because &#8220;belonging&#8221; to the peer pressure accepted group is more important than their own welfare.  Certainly more important than the  free expression of ideas and absolutely more important than the welfare of the country to which they belong in name only&#8230;.not in heart or soul.  These are people who are no longer proud to be Americans, they wish to be One World Socialists.  They have a residence here, but are Timeshare Americans.  </p>
<p> &#8220;What&#8217;s Wrong with Press Row?&#8221;  They sold out and bought into Timeshare America.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the movie business figures whatever it loses in the US it makes up overseas in &quot;America-hating&quot; countries...but those are disappearing, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the movie business figures whatever it loses in the US it makes up overseas in &#8220;America-hating&#8221; countries&#8230;but those are disappearing, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just peer pressure. The moguls are terrified of going to cocktail-cocaine parties and having their peers start chanting, &quot;Youuuuuuuuu like Dick Chaaaaaayneeee. Youuuuuuuuu like Dick Chaaaaaayneeee.&quot;

&quot;Nah-ah! I do not! Stop saying that!&quot;

The same goes for actors and journalists.

Sean and Georgie sitting in a tree.
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.
First comes love, then comes marriage
Then comes Sean with a baby carriage.

So Sean covers his ears, screams, and runs off to Tehran to hug mullahs. Or he writes a screenplay about some poor black soldier tricked into going to war for oil.
  
The denizens of Hollywood and the mainstream media are only thirteen years old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just peer pressure. The moguls are terrified of going to cocktail-cocaine parties and having their peers start chanting, &#8220;Youuuuuuuuu like Dick Chaaaaaayneeee. Youuuuuuuuu like Dick Chaaaaaayneeee.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Nah-ah! I do not! Stop saying that!&#8221;</p>
<p>The same goes for actors and journalists.</p>
<p>Sean and Georgie sitting in a tree.<br />
K-I-S-S-I-N-G.<br />
First comes love, then comes marriage<br />
Then comes Sean with a baby carriage.</p>
<p>So Sean covers his ears, screams, and runs off to Tehran to hug mullahs. Or he writes a screenplay about some poor black soldier tricked into going to war for oil.</p>
<p>The denizens of Hollywood and the mainstream media are only thirteen years old.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Concerned Citizen has a good point.  Company managers today are paid so lavishly they don&#039;t need to care about the companies they run.  When a CEO signs his first contract, he is then financially set for life.  CEO pay that used to be 30 times average worker salary is now something like 400-plus that number.  High pay that is given to &quot;align his interests with that of the company&quot; actually makes him too rich to care about the little things, like profitability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Concerned Citizen has a good point.  Company managers today are paid so lavishly they don&#8217;t need to care about the companies they run.  When a CEO signs his first contract, he is then financially set for life.  CEO pay that used to be 30 times average worker salary is now something like 400-plus that number.  High pay that is given to &#8220;align his interests with that of the company&#8221; actually makes him too rich to care about the little things, like profitability.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s media moguls don&#039;t actually own their companies, because they inherited it or are working for someone else as a &quot;hired hand&quot;.  They get paid a big, fat salary even if they lose money, so why not make media they and their friends like instead of media a paying audience will like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s media moguls don&#8217;t actually own their companies, because they inherited it or are working for someone else as a &#8220;hired hand&#8221;.  They get paid a big, fat salary even if they lose money, so why not make media they and their friends like instead of media a paying audience will like?</p>
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		<title>By: Burt Prelutsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burt Prelutsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Increase Mather:  There was no blue moon and Hell did not freeze over and, so, the L.A. Times did not print my letter.

Regards, Burt Prelutsky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Increase Mather:  There was no blue moon and Hell did not freeze over and, so, the L.A. Times did not print my letter.</p>
<p>Regards, Burt Prelutsky</p>
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		<title>By: Increase Mather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Increase Mather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let us know if they printed your letter...though I think I know the answer.

I gave up on the NY Times about seven years ago...also, the NYReview of Books, The Atlantic, and Harpers. Got sick of their conservative bashing...

Now that we have choices in reportage we don&#039;t need the Left anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let us know if they printed your letter&#8230;though I think I know the answer.</p>
<p>I gave up on the NY Times about seven years ago&#8230;also, the NYReview of Books, The Atlantic, and Harpers. Got sick of their conservative bashing&#8230;</p>
<p>Now that we have choices in reportage we don&#8217;t need the Left anymore.</p>
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