Comments on: Who Won Round Two? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:29:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: rachel peepers http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-123341 rachel peepers Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:57:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-123341 Kd, how can I put this tactfully? Your thoughts are at best disjointed and illogical. At worst, idiotic. Kd, how can I put this tactfully? Your thoughts are at best disjointed and illogical. At worst, idiotic.

]]> By: kd http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122683 kd Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:34:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122683 Clear thinking does not seem to be de rigueur at Pajamas Media. Clear thinking does not seem to be de rigueur at Pajamas Media.

]]> By: susan christofferson http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122677 susan christofferson Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:13:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122677 mccain won hands down ------------- it is so disgusting how the dem's always swing anything to their side --- no matter what occurs ----------- the dem's cheat in the voting area and cheat in every area of the media to concur with their left wing view's ---------- they can go to hell and if they win cant wait to see how the country fall's because my family shall be leaving this country if the obama wins ---- and it shall be a sad state for this country for an enimy to gain the white house ---------- mccain won hands down ————- it is so disgusting how the dem’s always swing anything to their side — no matter what occurs ———– the dem’s cheat in the voting area and cheat in every area of the media to concur with their left wing view’s ———- they can go to hell and if they win cant wait to see how the country fall’s because my family shall be leaving this country if the obama wins —- and it shall be a sad state for this country for an enimy to gain the white house ———-

]]> By: Frank Logan http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122649 Frank Logan Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:20:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122649 Marc, I agree with almost everything you said. Some from the right will vote for Obama, but not enough to make a difference. Obama could spend a billion dollars and it wouldn't make any difference. People who see him like you and I do will not be swayed. No matter what is said to a pollster, almost everyone has made their mind up. This deal is done, I promise. Obama can NOT win. Marc, I agree with almost everything you said. Some from the right will vote for Obama, but not enough to make a difference. Obama could spend a billion dollars and it wouldn’t make any difference. People who see him like you and I do will not be swayed. No matter what is said to a pollster, almost everyone has made their mind up. This deal is done, I promise. Obama can NOT win.

]]> By: rspar http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122618 rspar Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:10:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122618 McCain didn't look at Obama just so therefore he's a racist. That's some amazing deduction. McCain didn’t look at Obama just so therefore he’s a racist. That’s some amazing deduction.

]]> By: Marc Malone http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122553 Marc Malone Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:39:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122553 Frank Logan - No, I don't believe the polls. I think they're skewed somewhat, by about 5-6 points. But, others do believe them, and they give up... and don't bother voting. Skewed polls can be self-fulfilling prophecies. Further, no, the Pubs aren't split, but many moderates have left the party, and many of these will vote for Obama, if they see him as centrist enough. Not every Pub will hold his nose and vote for McCain. Some will vote to punish their party for degenerating so. Disaffection with Bush and his Party is not limited to the Dems. Still, it's a tight race, and McCain could win. ACORN could blow up on the Dems. Nefarious associates could blow up on Obama. The big problem is Obama's fund-raising. He seems to be spending money he doesn't have, as if he's assured that he can raise it after the election, which he can if he wins. He's outspending McCain 4:1. Suddenly, there's no limit to his money, so McCain has to play defense in States he shouldn't. Frank Logan – No, I don’t believe the polls. I think they’re skewed somewhat, by about 5-6 points. But, others do believe them, and they give up… and don’t bother voting. Skewed polls can be self-fulfilling prophecies.

Further, no, the Pubs aren’t split, but many moderates have left the party, and many of these will vote for Obama, if they see him as centrist enough. Not every Pub will hold his nose and vote for McCain. Some will vote to punish their party for degenerating so. Disaffection with Bush and his Party is not limited to the Dems.

Still, it’s a tight race, and McCain could win. ACORN could blow up on the Dems. Nefarious associates could blow up on Obama.

The big problem is Obama’s fund-raising. He seems to be spending money he doesn’t have, as if he’s assured that he can raise it after the election, which he can if he wins. He’s outspending McCain 4:1. Suddenly, there’s no limit to his money, so McCain has to play defense in States he shouldn’t.

]]> By: Frank Logan http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122222 Frank Logan Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:17:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122222 Marc Malone, I said above that that was not the poll that I had seen in the last two weeks, but had similar results. How many Bush voters that you know are going to vote for an extreme leftist? The republican party is not split, the democratic party is split badly. Historically,the shift in the polls is nothing but BS. They all claimed Kerry was going to win in 2004, even up to the day of the election. You think the MSM is biased, but you believe the polls. This race has been over since the primaries were decided, and all the BS in the world is not changing it. Nov. 5th will determine whether I know what I'm talking about, or full of baloney. Marc Malone, I said above that that was not the poll that I had seen in the last two weeks, but had similar results. How many Bush voters that you know are going to vote for an extreme leftist? The republican party is not split, the democratic party is split badly. Historically,the shift in the polls is nothing but BS. They all claimed Kerry was going to win in 2004, even up to the day of the election. You think the MSM is biased, but you believe the polls. This race has been over since the primaries were decided, and all the BS in the world is not changing it. Nov. 5th will determine whether I know what I’m talking about, or full of baloney.

]]> By: vivo http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122117 vivo Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:27:31 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122117 CALIndie Oct 8, 2008 - 10:49 am Very nice behavioral analysis. Lots of people treat politics very lightly, so they go for the flashy ads (except most bloggers in this site). This can only be corrected with the right education in high school. Philosophy classes teach logic. Do they do that anymore? Merchandisers and politicians wouldn't like that. CALIndie Oct 8, 2008 – 10:49 am

Very nice behavioral analysis.

Lots of people treat politics very lightly, so they go for the flashy ads (except most bloggers in this site). This can only be corrected with the right education in high school. Philosophy classes teach logic. Do they do that anymore? Merchandisers and politicians wouldn’t like that.

]]> By: Marc Malone http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122113 Marc Malone Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:13:11 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122113 Frank Logan - That poll article was dated 8/21. Not really applicable now. 7 million Hillary voters crossing over sounds great, but you have to recognize that McCain is not going to get all the previous Bush voters. Lots of Pubs left the Party, becoming Inds. Lots going over to Obama. That's whence comes the shift in the polls. Proudelitist - rollingthunder.com had some really interesting numbers crunching on the polls where he takes out some of the Dem weighting showing a starkly different picture. I think you'd really like the site. Frank Logan – That poll article was dated 8/21. Not really applicable now.

7 million Hillary voters crossing over sounds great, but you have to recognize that McCain is not going to get all the previous Bush voters. Lots of Pubs left the Party, becoming Inds. Lots going over to Obama. That’s whence comes the shift in the polls.

Proudelitist – rollingthunder.com had some really interesting numbers crunching on the polls where he takes out some of the Dem weighting showing a starkly different picture. I think you’d really like the site.

]]> By: vivo http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-round-two/comment-page-4/#comment-122112 vivo Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:06:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=35379#comment-122112 Sandy Salt Oct 8, 2008 - 7:37 am "So, who is with me on this? Who would like to see this country out of debt and strong again? I know that it sucks to pay taxes, but we aren’t going solve the national debt any other way and this way everyone shares the pain companies, rich, poor, and other. What do you think?" Sandy Salt for President!! Sandy Salt Oct 8, 2008 – 7:37 am

“So, who is with me on this? Who would like to see this country out of debt and strong again? I know that it sucks to pay taxes, but we aren’t going solve the national debt any other way and this way everyone shares the pain companies, rich, poor, and other. What do you think?”

Sandy Salt for President!!

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