Comments on: Who Won the Debate? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:29:52 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dan Rust http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-126660 Dan Rust Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:31:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-126660 For one person's perspective on how you can make a decision to support Obama AND vote for John McCain, see the YouTube video below: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpsdKUQ1nKA Feel free to forward this to any "undecided" voters you know of. This will be a VERY close election and we need every single vote we can get. Demonizing Obama will get us a few votes (and also lose us at least a few votes) but I hope that a rational, positive thought process will persuade a few people who are still on the fence. Regards, Dan For one person’s perspective on how you can make a decision to support Obama AND vote for John McCain, see the YouTube video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpsdKUQ1nKA

Feel free to forward this to any “undecided” voters you know of. This will be a VERY close election and we need every single vote we can get. Demonizing Obama will get us a few votes (and also lose us at least a few votes) but I hope that a rational, positive thought process will persuade a few people who are still on the fence.

Regards, Dan

]]> By: Ahanna http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-126474 Ahanna Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:18:12 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-126474 What can the old man do when he gets into power, American plz don't make a mistakes by voting in McCain into to power. Obama is the right man and belive me, he will win. Change we need What can the old man do when he gets into power, American plz don’t make a mistakes by voting in McCain into to power. Obama is the right man and belive me, he will win. Change we need

]]> By: jersey http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-126351 jersey Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:58:16 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-126351 OBAMA was clear and confident, Mccain was beating a dead horse, his only line of the night was I'am not George Bush!! way too many smirks, eye rolling,and playing bully on the playground. OBAMA was clear and confident, Mccain was beating a dead horse, his only line of the night was I’am not George Bush!! way too many smirks, eye rolling,and playing bully on the playground.

]]> By: brooklyn http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-121702 brooklyn Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:17:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-121702 Are you guys serious? If you take all of Mccains," I can do that," I understand," and "my friends" you wouldn't even have a debate. You are obvious republicans. Are you guys serious? If you take all of Mccains,” I can do that,” I understand,” and “my friends” you wouldn’t even have a debate. You are obvious republicans.

]]> By: Tom Garcia http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-121332 Tom Garcia Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:21:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-121332 Mccain can not his answers straight unless he has them written on a tele prompter . You just have to love his answer about helping the folks with the mortgage mess , did he not read the package that he approved to bail out Wall street , Mccain that is not a new idea it's in the PACKAGE ... You know " That one " the one you signed on. WOW!!! thank god for Obama ... clear and concise answers . I guess the most of the country agrees ...OBAMA won hands down. Mccain can not his answers straight unless he has them written on a tele prompter . You just have to love his answer about helping the folks with the mortgage mess , did he not read the package that he approved to bail out Wall street , Mccain that is not a new idea it’s in the PACKAGE … You know ” That one ” the one you signed on. WOW!!! thank god for Obama … clear and concise answers . I guess the most of the country agrees …OBAMA won hands down.

]]> By: W. GREEN http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-115544 W. GREEN Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:42:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-115544 I THOUGHT THE DEBATE WENT WELL TO ME JOHN MCCAIN WAS A LITTLE SHARPER HE HAD MY ATTENTION THE MOST.. A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT OBAMA WOULD DESTROY HIM,THIS WAS NOT THE CASE.. WE MUST FACE IT.. MR. MCCAIN IS BETTER SUITED RIGHT NOW TO RUN THE COUNTRY ,THERES JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.. OBAMA WOULD BE GOOD PROBABLY 1 TERM DOWN THE ROAD..HE WILL BE A GOOD PRESIDENT IN THE FUTURE.. RIGHT NOW ITS MCAIN,HES THE MAN FOR NOW.. SARAH PALIN FITS GOOD IN THE VP ROLE.. SHE WOULD BE A GOOD PRESIDENT PROBABLY 1 TERM DOWN THE ROAD AS WELL AS OBAMA.. I THOUGHT THE DEBATE WENT WELL
TO ME JOHN MCCAIN WAS A LITTLE SHARPER
HE HAD MY ATTENTION THE MOST..
A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT OBAMA WOULD DESTROY HIM,THIS WAS NOT THE CASE..
WE MUST FACE IT.. MR. MCCAIN IS BETTER SUITED RIGHT NOW TO RUN THE COUNTRY ,THERES JUST TOO MUCH GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW..
OBAMA WOULD BE GOOD PROBABLY 1 TERM DOWN THE ROAD..HE WILL BE A GOOD PRESIDENT IN THE FUTURE..
RIGHT NOW ITS MCAIN,HES THE MAN FOR NOW..
SARAH PALIN FITS GOOD IN THE VP ROLE..
SHE WOULD BE A GOOD PRESIDENT PROBABLY 1 TERM DOWN THE ROAD AS WELL AS OBAMA..

]]> By: john http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-115524 john Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:44:42 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-115524 Obama won the debate by far. did u see Obama trying to make eye contact and Mccain would try and avoid as much as possible looking straight in the eye at Obama, that to me speaks lauder than words. "How are you gonna win, when ur not right within"? sorry McCain, i would say see u soon, but not sure ur not gonna make it 4 years from now. :) Obama won the debate by far. did u see Obama trying to make eye contact and Mccain would try and avoid as much as possible looking straight in the eye at Obama, that to me speaks lauder than words. “How are you gonna win, when ur not right within”? sorry McCain, i would say see u soon, but not sure ur not gonna make it 4 years from now. :)

]]> By: mankin http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-115467 mankin Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:07:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-115467 McCain seemed to come off as the stubborn old man who doesn't listen and gets angry. Hes going to need to control that in the future. McCain seemed to come off as the stubborn old man who doesn’t listen and gets angry. Hes going to need to control that in the future.

]]> By: j. Barnett http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-115356 j. Barnett Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:36:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-115356 Who won the DEBATE?, NO ONE, this is a waste of ower time, a build up and a let down, what can they really say, your full of shit OBAMA, you are to JOHN, everyone wants to see OBAMA start acting like a man, wrong guy, his wife has the balls, not him, he just hangs on coat-tails and always sticks to one thing,"I DIDN"T VOTE FOR THE WAR"was you even at work OBAMA?, did you even listen, because if you listened like 20 yrs. of your church we are in deep shit with you baby.McCain, show us how your temper is, get mad, mad-cow McCain, shout it out JOHN, kiss my ass you lousy punk, BILL did, but then, oh we can't have him, he's nuts!!i bet JOHN has plenty to say, poor CINDY on the way home..., Obama has big ears because MaMa gets mad and pulls on them, you should had said this asshole...who won, we'll see how the V.P. rate, after all everyone sees what ever they want to and then we talk about that for a month,talk..talk..and bull-shit walks...... Who won the DEBATE?, NO ONE, this is a waste of ower time, a build up and a let down, what can they really say, your full of shit OBAMA, you are to JOHN, everyone wants to see OBAMA start acting like a man, wrong guy, his wife has the balls, not him, he just hangs on coat-tails and always sticks to one thing,”I DIDN”T VOTE FOR THE WAR”was you even at work OBAMA?, did you even listen, because if you listened like 20 yrs. of your church we are in deep shit with you baby.McCain, show us how your temper is, get mad, mad-cow McCain, shout it out JOHN, kiss my ass you lousy punk, BILL did, but then, oh we can’t have him, he’s nuts!!i bet JOHN has plenty to say, poor CINDY on the way home…, Obama has big ears because MaMa gets mad and pulls on them, you should had said this asshole…who won, we’ll see how the V.P. rate, after all everyone sees what ever they want to and then we talk about that for a month,talk..talk..and bull-shit walks……

]]> By: imp http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/comment-page-6/#comment-115141 imp Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:23:51 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/who-won-the-debate/#comment-115141 Obama\'s statement was VERY IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED or just naieve as Russia would veto any resolution seeking to replace Russian peacekeepers with International peacekeepers!. Obama on Georgia in the debate "No. 1 is we have to have foresight and anticipate some of these problems. So back in April, I warned the administration that you had Russian peacekeepers in Georgian territory. That made no sense whatsoever. And what we needed to do was replace them with international peacekeepers and a special envoy to resolve the crisis before it boiled over. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/the_first_presidential_debate.html BUT The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) is the branch of the United Nations charged with the maintenance of international peace and security. Its powers, outlined in the United Nations Charter, include the establishment of peacekeeping operations, the establishment of international sanctions, and the authorization for military action.[1] Its powers are exercised through United Nations Security Council Resolutions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council#Role_of_the_Security_Council The Security Council is charged with maintaining peace and security among countries. While other organs of the United Nations can only make 'recommendations' to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make binding decisions that member governments have agreed to carry out, under the terms of Charter Article 25.[6] The decisions of the Council are known as United Nations Security Council resolutions. unacceptable to it VETO POWER Under Article 27 of the UN Charter, Security Council decisions on all substantive matters require the affirmative votes of nine members. A negative vote, or veto, by a permanent member prevents adoption of a proposal, even if it has received the required number of affirmative votes. Abstention is not regarded as a veto despite the wording of the Charter. Since the Security Council's inception, China (ROC/PRC) has used its veto 6 times; France 18 times; Russia/USSR 122 times; the United Kingdom 32 times; and the United States 81 times. The majority of Russian/Soviet vetoes were in the first ten years of the Council's existence. Since 1984, China (ROC/PRC) has vetoed three resolutions; France three; Russia/USSR four; the United Kingdom ten; and the United States 43. Procedural matters are not subject to a veto, so the veto cannot be used to avoid discussion of an issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council#Veto_power Obama\’s statement was VERY IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED or just naieve as Russia would veto any resolution seeking to replace Russian peacekeepers with International peacekeepers!.

Obama on Georgia in the debate
“No. 1 is we have to have foresight and anticipate some of these problems. So back in April, I warned the administration that you had Russian peacekeepers in Georgian territory. That made no sense whatsoever.

And what we needed to do was replace them with international peacekeepers and a special envoy to resolve the crisis before it boiled over.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/the_first_presidential_debate.html

BUT
The United Nations Security Council (UNSC) is the branch of the United Nations charged with the maintenance of international peace and security. Its powers, outlined in the United Nations Charter, include the establishment of peacekeeping operations, the establishment of international sanctions, and the authorization for military action.[1] Its powers are exercised through United Nations Security Council Resolutions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council#Role_of_the_Security_Council

The Security Council is charged with maintaining peace and security among countries. While other organs of the United Nations can only make ‘recommendations’ to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make binding decisions that member governments have agreed to carry out, under the terms of Charter Article 25.[6] The decisions of the Council are known as United Nations Security Council resolutions.
unacceptable to it

VETO POWER
Under Article 27 of the UN Charter, Security Council decisions on all substantive matters require the affirmative votes of nine members. A negative vote, or veto, by a permanent member prevents adoption of a proposal, even if it has received the required number of affirmative votes. Abstention is not regarded as a veto despite the wording of the Charter. Since the Security Council’s inception, China (ROC/PRC) has used its veto 6 times; France 18 times; Russia/USSR 122 times; the United Kingdom 32 times; and the United States 81 times. The majority of Russian/Soviet vetoes were in the first ten years of the Council’s existence. Since 1984, China (ROC/PRC) has vetoed three resolutions; France three; Russia/USSR four; the United Kingdom ten; and the United States 43.

Procedural matters are not subject to a veto, so the veto cannot be used to avoid discussion of an issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council#Veto_power

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