I agree completely with this assessment and with the comparison between President Bush and President Lincoln. I have long seen that association given the profound and unpopular adversity each faced. The hardest decision is often doing what’s right even when the majority wish to do what’s wrong simply because it is the easier path. An excellent article, but many that have commented who oppose its logical conclusion are both ignorant and misinformed. Their desire to twist history is really quite pathetic and insulting. But, it demonstrates what lengths they are willing to go in order to be right–even if they have to lie. Well, just as President Lincoln was not appreciated in his time and even hated (so much so that he was killed by those that oppose his policies), President Bush will also be vindicated by history (May he become the next president to be placed on Mount Rushmore) and of that, I have no doubt.

Semper Fi Mr. President on a job well done–your presence and leadership is extremely missed!

They used to ask the question, “Are you better off than you were a year ago?” We should be asking ourselves, “do we feel safer than we did a few short months ago when a real commander-in-chief was in office?” With the new president announcing he will shortly (in this year) close Guantanamo, with no plan as to what to do with the terrorists housed there, I’m feeling less safe each passing day.

God bless you, George Bush. I believe history will paint quite a different story about you than the liberal media has done for nearly the entire time you were our leader.

I have no trouble with an honest exchange of ideas. I posted my thoughts to this thread like anyone else. Jarhead91 directed a comment at me, which I took as an invitation to clarify my position. Libertyship46 took issue with my point of view, and we had a mostly civil exchange on the topic of Bush’s failures.

Bilgeman made a statement at #83 about the future of the Republican and Democratic parties, and we proceeded to debate his assertion. 888 made a statement comparing Bush and Obama, which was clearly in need of rebuttal, and I was happy to oblige.

An exchange followed with LynnS, and I made a brief comment on greg’s post when you elected to address me directly.

I hardly responded to every objectionable sentence about bush – and many of my posts were part of ongoing dialogue, much as this one is. After all the evidence that has been aired, I find it odd that you believe I harbor “abject, baseless, totally irrational, visceral hatred for Bush, or anyone with an (R) by their name”. I have shown here and elsewhere that my distaste for Bush is founded on specific policy and executive decisions by his Administration, a perfectly rational basis on which to disagree.

There is no hate, nothing visceral about it. I have intelligent objections to Bush policy, and as a corollary, I disagree with those who feel he was a good leader.

From my original comment on this article:

One took a nation from a terrible crisis to a successful resolution. The other took a successful nation into a terrible crisis.

Lincoln was the great uniter, and Bush the great divider. Lincoln was successful, and Bush was, quite memorably, the greatest failure to hold the office.

If you don’t agree, tell me why. Don’t attack the messenger – that’s not constructive. Calling me irrational, or accusing me of being a totalitarian for engaging in a conversation with people who hold a different position, is simply intellectually lazy. I have provided reasons for my belief – why not try doing the same for your own, instead of projecting hatred on the interloper who asks the tough questions?

You at least have to admit that Bilgeman is entertaining when he gets upset…

Peace.

DS

BM,

Conservatives have always been a force in politics. It was conservatives that attempted to prevent the formation of this Republic. Conservatives are always behind the times, perpetually playing catch-up in a world that values progress.

America is a liberal and radical nation by its very nature.

DS

“The future doesn’t play favorites – it belongs to those who earn their place in it.”

That all starts AFTER you show up. You have to be born, first. A wee little fact that the Left isn’t exactly in favor of.

“I don’t believe that the conservative movement understands the nature of progress , or the changes that have shaped our nation. ”

Ahhh, but we DO…we REALLY DO! I even outlined your “Progress” here in my comment #95:

“Growing up fatherless in a housing project while subsisting on government welfare checks and attending a monopolistic public school system that instucts you in moral relativism,(thereby ensuring that you never develop a moral compass), and demands that you “celebrate the diversity” of those cultures that would enslave, sodomize, and/or behead you?”

See, chappie, all the highfalutin’ rhetoric is secondary to the results you get.
You want to know how Leftist “Progress” shaped our history?

It birthed the Conservative movement. The Rockefeller GOP atrophied, to be replaced by the Goldwater strain…in reaction to the hideous environment that your fetishization of government social programs have condemned all too many of our fellow citizens to.

“Obama will be a much more liberal and thoughtful leader than his predecessor. His policies are bold enough to put a smile on my face.”

You really should do a little research on the district in ChicagoLand that Obama represented as a congressman and a state representative…you might not be smilin’ all that much.
(Here’s a hint…that’s where Rezko comes in.)

“Yes, sir! Thank you sir! May I have another?”

I’m not licensed to give you the one, nor inclined to give you the other.

Bilgeman,

“…why not be gracious towards W as he leaves office?”
Because criminals should be prosecuted, lest others follow their example. Bush ought to be held accountable.

I’ll venture a guess. Deep down in your guts, you know that the future is not Leftist.
The future doesn’t play favorites – it belongs to those who earn their place in it. I don’t believe that the conservative movement understands the nature of progress , or the changes that have shaped our nation. You can guess all day long, but that doesn’t make it true.

Even Obama recognizes this, which is why he’s moving towards Bush’s policies and away from the Daily Kos, MoveOn and the rest.
Obama will be a much more liberal and thoughtful leader than his predecessor. His policies are bold enough to put a smile on my face. I understand that compromise is part of the process, and I have developed patience over the past eight years.

Decades of experience has shown that voters trend to vote more conservatively the older that they get.
Voters who voted for Obama are likely to carry Democrats into power for decades to come.

“All the evidence we have found refutes the idea that as people age their attitudes become more conservative or more rigid,” said Nicholas Danigelis, a sociologist at the University of Vermont. “It’s just not true. More people are changing in a liberal direction than in a conservative direction.”

Just as a sidebar, you DO know what a “neocon” is, don’t you?

In January 2009, at the close of President George W. Bush’s second term in office, Jonathan Clarke, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, proposed the following as the “main characteristics of neoconservatism”[35]:
-”a tendency to see the world in binary good/evil terms
-low tolerance for diplomacy
-readiness to use military force
-emphasis on US unilateral action
-disdain for multilateral organisations
-focus on the Middle East”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative

…Obama was a fluke.
According to… Bilgeman.

Keep telling yourself about the “Obama Mandate” and how the Right is a dying species…
And as I said, keep on sodomizin’ and abortin’.

Yes, sir! Thank you sir! May I have another?

Peace.

DS

LynnS,

Nobody forced you to read my comments. I’m providing a valuable service by giving you the opportunity to strengthen your beliefs by providing convincing evidence, or to change your beliefs, by looking at the convincing evidence you have heretofore ignored.

I was curious enough to come and spend some time at Pajamas Media. Do you have something interesting or insightful to say, or are you just interested in denigrating me, rather than addressing the very real issues of history and how it is recorded?

I hope you will come to see that I am not here as a minister for anyone but myself. Try re-reading your own comment with “LynnS’ and “right” in place of “David S” and “left”. You will see how vacuous your own statement is. How have you personally benefitted from GOP governance? How has the country benefitted? These are important issues that should be carefully considered by any serious citizen.

Peace.

DS