Why Isn’t Obama Bothered by Terrorist Support?

The fact that receiving Hamas support does not appear to disturb Obama should worry us even more than the fact that terrorists see something in him that they really like.

May 15, 2008 - by Steve Gill

The 2008 Presidential campaign has already seen a number of outlandish, and patently false, attacks. The idea that Islamic terrorists are picking a side in selection of an American president might seem to be yet another for the list…if it didn’t have its basis in truth.

A few weeks ago, Ahmed Yousef, a top political adviser for terrorist group Hamas, said in an interview on WABC radio in New York that the group supports Obama. “We like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,” Yousef explained. Hamas, which seized control of the Palestinian Gaza last June, has long been designated as a terrorist group by the U.S. State Department.

The Obama campaign has claimed to be “flattered” by the fact that the Hamas endorsement compared their candidate to Kennedy. Obama himself told the Atlantic magazine that he understands why Hamas would support him. “It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, ‘This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush.’” Obama concluded that the perception is “legitimate” as long as they understand he will be “unyielding” in his support for Israel.

So what have Barack’s Hamas friends been up to lately? Well, on the very day President Bush arrived in Israel to mark the nation’s 60th anniversary and to renew his push for a Palestinian state as part of elusive Israeli-Palestinian peace process, Barack’s buddies fired a rocket into an Israeli shopping mall. The mall was devastated, and 14 innocent civilians were seriously injured.

The Hamas endorsement of Obama is even more interesting when viewed against the backdrop of the group’s aggressive promotion of violence among young Palestinians in Gaza and in the context of a recent Al-Jazeera story about how young Palestinians in Gaza have banded together to call American voters at random asking them to vote for Obama. Rockets by night, Obama phone banks by day?

“It all started at the time of the US primaries,” says the pro-Obama Palestinian organizer, 23 year old Ibrahim Abu Jayyab. “After studying Obama’s electronic campaign manifesto I thought this is a man that’s capable of change inside of America. As for potential change in the Middle East, he can also do that if he can bring peace to the area. At least this is what we hope.” The full Al-Jazeera television report can be viewed here.

Obama’s campaign may argue that there is no apparent direct link between the young Palestinian men and the Hamas terrorist organization. But the young phone-bankers have also received coverage from Ramattan, the Palestinian news agency, in what reads like a Hamas-generated anti-Israel press release.

Can anyone seriously believe that young Palestinian men are allowed free and easy access to operate an internet phone bank in the impoverished and violent Gaza Strip — and bring that effort to the attention of the international media — without Hamas’ knowledge and approval? The support that Barack Obama is receiving from avowed terrorist enemies of America should bother him. The fact that it does not bother him should bother us even more than the fact that terrorists see something in him that they really like.

Steve Gill is host of a statewide Tennessee radio talk show and chief political analyst for WKRN News 2 in Nashville.

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105 Comments

1. vb:

“Why isn’t Obama bothered?” Because he is the ultimate useful idiot.

May 15, 2008 - 2:02 am 2. Evil Pundit:

Obama doesn’t seem to be bothered by his friendship and political association with American terrorist Bill Ayres. So why should he be worried by foreign terrorists?

May 15, 2008 - 4:58 am 3. David Thomson:

Ibrahim Abu Jayyab’s support of “Barry” Obama should cause everyone deep concern. It has finally dawned on me that radio talk show hosts Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity may perhaps be too politically correct! On a subconscious level, they don’t want to think badly about a “man of color.” Obama is getting something of a free pass. I am convinced that if he were totally white—conservatives would be horrified that he might become the next leader of the free world. I am not especially pro-John McCain. He is far from being a perfect candidate. I am instead very fearful of Obama. He must be stopped.

May 15, 2008 - 5:10 am 4. AJ:

good question

i asked those i know who support obama and they either did not know about this, or say “oh, who cares who the terrorists support?”

most of the obama supporters are fools, who think he and john edwards are honest folks and bush is a liar

g-d help them

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May 15, 2008 - 5:45 am 6. RA:

I’m sure Obama thinks his charisma has charmed our enemies already. He couldn’t face the truth that he appears as a weak kneed pansy who they can take advantage of.

May 15, 2008 - 6:00 am 7. Cliff:

Cowboy diplomacy? If I were a cowboy I might be offended by this statement.

May 15, 2008 - 6:35 am 8. David Thomson:

“I’m sure Obama thinks his charisma has charmed our enemies already.”

Everyone should pretend for one day that “Barry” Obama is totally white. I strongly suspect that afterwards you may very well realize that he is a very dangerous man. At the very minimum, he does indeed believe his charm alone is sufficient when dealing with our intractable enemies. We also know this for sure: America’s enemies do not fear Obama! Is he on the same page as Bill Ayers? Let’s ignore that question for the time being and instead focus on the fact that the Chicago terrorist does not perceive Obama as a hindrance to his larger goals.

May 15, 2008 - 6:48 am 9. Ciscokid:

Here’s the deal. American people haven’t been educated enough to care about the “world political goals” of radical Islam. We’re to busy trying to be politically correct as not to offend anybody. Not only is this wrong when it denies the truth, but in turn helps the radical’s to achieve their goals. What’s their goal? A peaceful world of course. Learning how this peace is achieved through Islamic fundamentalism is the key. We’re a secular society, there for what’s not a religious war to us doesn’t mean it’s not a religious war to them. We’re taught to be tolerant & respect all peaceful religions and simply put, they’re not. We’re either kuffar’s (non believers – atheist that means you also) or polytheist (other religions) or apostates (converts from Islam to another religion – to bad for Obama, that’s him). According to fundamental Islam, either we convert to Islam or pay a jizya (tax) and submit to a dhimmi (lower) status or we can be killed with no more thought than that of an animal. Women? Forget about it, your done either way. Get use to beatings & wearing a tent. Politicians are not allowed to even think of the word crusade, let alone apply it to the Islamic radical’s goals of world peace. Yeah, the world will be peaceful all right, according to Islamic fundamental belief’s, when we all submit to sharia law. They’re on a “CRUSADE” to employ sharia law throughout the world.

Now here’s a “fact” I bet allot of people don’t know. It’s okay to “lie”, according to fundamental beliefs, when it furthers the cause of spreading Islam. Some politicians will love that one. How can it be a lie, when you’re already absolved going in? Yeah, I agree. Somebody better check deeper into Barrack Hussein Obama’s endorsement from Hamas. Ooop’s, I wrote his middle name, because of the “fact” Obama was registered a Saudi Muslim in the Indonesian school he attended, so he could spend four hours a day learning the Qur’an. (American Thinker website has an article written about this today). I’m not saying he’s down with the fundamental belief’s of radical Islam, but combine this with his denial of not knowing (lying possibly?) of the radical message coming from his “spiritual mentor”. Rev Wright’s man of the year award to Farrakhan. Obama’s anti-Israel advisors. Stated willingness to meet with radical extremist with no preconditions. Yeah, wearing the flag pin (Saudi wahabism or slafi, non belief in that of idols etc.) or placing his hand over his heart during the national anthem. Associations (not necessarily friends) with anti American radicals. Obama’s is, is, use of just “words” . I’d say Obama’s got allot more explaining to do. I get a thrill up my leg just waiting for these answers. C’mon Hillary, where’s this bomb on Obama you promised us, or are we suppose to figure it out for ourselves?

May 15, 2008 - 7:08 am 10. David P:

BARRACK OBAMA’S BEEN INDOCTRINATED BY THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE USE OF TERROR AS AN ACCEPTABLE MEANS OF RESISTANCE.

May 15, 2008 - 7:42 am 11. Aureliano:

Barack Obama is a left-liberal. As such, he believes that all the enemies of the United States are creations of the United States. He doesn’t necessarily know how or why this is the case — the exact mechanism is irrelevant because there are literally tens of thousands of ‘papers’ he can dig up at any university from which to choose a ‘theory’ to justify this belief (any belief) — he just has absolute faith that somehow, someway the existence of international terrorism is our fault.

Therefore, since everything is our fault, and therefore completely in our control, to ’solve’ terrorism one must simply change our foreign policy (our behavior) to meet the demands of the terrorists (e.g., to allow the dissolution of Israel), whose justifications for violence MUST be legitimate and taken at face value. Getting elected in the United States is simply a matter of conceding to every demand of the professional grievance-mongers (and giving them monetary compensation for doing so, since economics is a zero-sum system), so therefore the same strategy will work on the international stage, as well.

Simple. The whole world really can be socially engineered and centrally planned, the way one can engineer the university campus to reflect a multicultural (anything non-white) collectivist utopia that it clearly represents.

May 15, 2008 - 8:40 am 12. Joanna:

Wait, Obama can bring up the fact that his middle name is “Hussein” because it endears him to Muslims, but no one else can mention that his middle name, Hussein, endears him to Muslims? I’m confused. I thought he played cleaner than that. /sarcasm

May 15, 2008 - 8:51 am 13. Belisario:

This cheap demagogue Obama ibn Ba-Ba-Ma didn’t never hided his sympathy for the criminal Islamofascist dictatorships and for the terrorists of all kinds. Putting aside his fanatic followers, enemies of democracy (as testify their hatred for President Bush, who has really spread freedom and democracy), it is possible to say that Obama is the last hope of the Terrorist International and of all the dictators which still remain in power.

May 15, 2008 - 9:56 am 14. Geoff:

Wow… more straw men here than a scarecrow factory! :-P

May 15, 2008 - 10:12 am 15. AJ:

“Barack Obama is a left-liberal. As such, he believes that all the enemies of the United States are creations of the United States.”

As do his admirers: profs, college kids, inner city folks, black pastors, his wife, white guilt latte libs, etc.

My co worker, an Obama fan, just told me that they like him “because of his skin color,” which may be correct, but then she added, “we need to be liked around the world more.”

As if she knows.

As if she realizes that we are loved in Eastern Europe, most of Eastern Asia, most of Sotuh America (especially Colombia, where my wife and her family hails from), Australia, much of Central America, Africa, et al.

Too bad the media ignores that. You’d think, if anything, with their love of Africa, they’d note how much Africans love Americans and Pres. Bush.

May 15, 2008 - 10:16 am 16. Flashlight:

More to the point, why isn’t anyone else bothered by the fact that McCain fully embraced the Obama plan for Iraq today? Same leaders, same troop-levels , same time-tables.

Also, yesterday Gates called for direct talks with Tehran. Looks like we’re going to get Obama style diplomacy whether we want it or not.

May 15, 2008 - 10:33 am 17. JohnMc:

Geoff,

How clever! “more straw men than a scarecrow factory.” Your wit slays us all.

That is the essence of the Obama campaign. Criticize him in any way, and he says that he’s being smeared. Point out the potential pitfalls of his proposals, and his minions cry “Straw men!”

It’s so much easier than actually addressing the topic huh Geoff.

May 15, 2008 - 10:42 am 18. Lifeguard:

Such an erudite contribution, Geoff! Where can I sign up for your newsletter, o wise one?

May 15, 2008 - 10:46 am 19. david levavi:

Funny stuff. The so-called “Palestinians” who haven’t made an intelligent political choice in all the brief history of their “nationhood” are giving Americans advice on how to choose a president.

Will Barack take his place beside Che as the new poster boy of the left? Only time will tell.

The affection for JFK by the Pallys and by Obama who probably practices Kennedyesque mannerisms in front of the mirror is par for the course.

In nearly a term in office, Kennedy did not pass a single piece of legislation. Kennedy led America into Vietnam. Kennedy made assassination of foreign leaders acceptable American policy. At the Bay of Pigs, Kennedy peed in his pants and pulled the plug on American-trained, American-equipped, American-officered allies in the field. Kennedy negotiated the world’s first nuclear crisis high on amphetamines.

Like the first Black candidate for president, the first Catholic president’s singular talent was inspirational speeches. His presidency was a series of disasters and near disasters.

Kennedy became an American icon because his core supporters were practiced iconographers. Kennedy’s election marked the final triumph over Nativism. Which reminds us that the Know-Nothings of yesteryear may have been a lot smarter than the know-it-alls of today.

May 15, 2008 - 10:50 am 20. Believer:

To the normal person, a “reverend” spewing hatred in a House of God would be shocking.

For the normal person, spending time with an unrepentant domestic terrorist would give them the “willies.”

A normal person would allow aid to an infant that survived a failed abortion. Not leave him/her alone to die.

Mr. Obama is not a normal person. This information should surprise no one. And he should never be the leader of our nation.

May 15, 2008 - 10:53 am 21. ultyrunner:

If nothing else, conservative sites like this one sure make for entertaining reading. I guess in the absence of any kind of measured commentary or analysis, this will have to do, eh?

Obama has nothing to with what Hamas may or may not say, or who they endorse. However, since they make a statement preferring him over the current idiots … er, Bush administration, suddenly Steve Gill proclaims, “So what have Barack’s Hamas friends been up to lately?” Talk about your jumps in logic.

Even assuming the biased slant of National Review has got a quote right, in Obama’s reaction to Hamas’ endorsement, all it really indicates is that he’s flattered to be compared to Kennedy. Plus, any chatter from the middle east favourable to Obama is much the same as any other. A sincere hope for change from the current, deplorable, status quo.

May 15, 2008 - 11:04 am 22. Ardeshir Dolat:

Hamas & Hizbullah & the rest of the goons love and support Obama because he will be concentrating on what he is going to say to them next time he goes to TALK & NEGOTIATE with them, whilst they pursue nuke bombs. Obama is a silly kid – a silly kid who will burn the house down if left in charge.

May 15, 2008 - 11:11 am 23. Paul B:

If Steve Gill and pretty much every commenter above had a SHRED of honesty he and or they would point out that Obama has repeatedly labled Hamas a terrorist organization and has condemned them. From the Goldberg interview linked above:

“JG: Why do you think Ahmed Yousef of Hamas said what he said about you?

BO: My position on Hamas is indistinguishable from the position of Hillary Clinton or John McCain. I said they are a terrorist organization and I’ve repeatedly condemned them. I’ve repeatedly said, and I mean what I say: since they are a terrorist organization, we should not be dealing with them until they recognize Israel, renounce terrorism, and abide by previous agreements.

JG: Were you flummoxed by it?

BO: I wasn’t flummoxed. I think what is going on there is the same reason why there are some suspicions of me in the Jewish community. Look, we don’t do nuance well in politics and especially don’t do it well on Middle East policy. We look at things as black and white, and not gray. It’s conceivable that there are those in the Arab world who say to themselves, “This is a guy who spent some time in the Muslim world, has a middle name of Hussein, and appears more worldly and has called for talks with people, and so he’s not going to be engaging in the same sort of cowboy diplomacy as George Bush,” and that’s something they’re hopeful about. I think that’s a perfectly legitimate perception as long as they’re not confused about my unyielding support for Israel’s security.

When I visited Ramallah, among a group of Palestinian students, one of the things that I said to those students was: “Look, I am sympathetic to you and the need for you guys to have a country that can function, but understand this: if you’re waiting for America to distance itself from Israel, you are delusional. Because my commitment, our commitment, to Israel’s security is non-negotiable.” I’ve said this in front of audiences where, if there were any doubts about my position, that’d be a place where you’d hear it.

When Israel invaded Lebanon two summers ago, I was in South Africa, a place where, obviously, when you get outside the United States, you can hear much more critical commentary about Israel’s actions, and I was asked about this in a press conference, and that time, and for the entire summer, I was very adamant about Israel’s right to defend itself. I said that there’s not a nation-state on Earth that would tolerate having two of its soldiers kidnapped and just let it go. So I welcome the Muslim world’s accurate perception that I am interested in opening up dialogue and interested in moving away from the unilateral policies of George Bush, but nobody should mistake that for a softer stance when it comes to terrorism or when it comes to protecting Israel’s security or making sure that the alliance is strong and firm. You will not see, under my presidency, any slackening in commitment to Israel’s security.”

In March, Obama told the Jerusalem Post:

“Hamas is a terrorist organization, responsible for the deaths of many innocents, and dedicated to Israel’s destruction, as evidenced by their bombarding of Sderot in recent months. I support requiring Hamas to meet the international community’s conditions of recognizing Israel, renouncing violence, and abiding by past agreements before they are treated as a legitimate actor.”

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1205420759325&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Shame on Steve Gill, the comments above, and Instapundit for this sleaze.

May 15, 2008 - 11:13 am 24. ts:

Paul B., don’t bother. These idiots will have the next 8 years as the minority party to spend slinging garbage rumours.

May 15, 2008 - 11:22 am 25. Douglas Bogle:

Simple, how much money has been donated to Obama’s effort to become president? It would not suprise me that we find out many terrorist orgs. have helped this figure along.

Of course they love him. They paid for his loyalty.

Clintons and the Chinese.

However, this money is not for military secrets, but for the lives of our children.

God bless

May 15, 2008 - 11:24 am 26. JohnMc:

You can’t have it both ways Paul. You are quoting what Obama has said. So has Steve Gill. Obama is trying to play the oldest political game in the book — straddling the issue. He can’t say all the things that the JP article says, and at the same time say that he will sit down with our enemies and talk without conditions, which he has said. Who knows how he really thinks, what he really feels, because he will change his tune depending on who the audience is. He’s being called on it. Maybe Steve was selective his his choice of Obama quotes. So were you. But Obama said BOTH THINGS. That’s the problem.

May 15, 2008 - 11:30 am 27. Geoff:

Know what’s even funnier? I’m not an Obama supporter! But false arguments are false arguments… even if they’re on this blog! :-P

May 15, 2008 - 11:31 am 28. abu al-fin:

Obama’s church, Trinity Church in Chicago, supports the radical Palestinian cause against the state of Israel. So of course Hamas would assume that Obama feels the same way, particularly when he has expressed the same thought directly to Palestinian community leaders in Chicago–who have strong links to Palestinian political and militia forces.

Obama is not a cipher. He wrote his books and put his vacuousness out there for everyone.

May 15, 2008 - 11:33 am 29. William:

Bush equates talking to terrorists with appeasing Nazis. Clearly a shot at Obama. CNN reports:

Funny, Bush’s own Defense Secretary said yesterday the US needs to sit down and talk with Iran, and appease them with incentives:

“We need to figure out a way to develop some leverage . . . and then sit down and talk with them. If there is going to be a discussion, then they need something, too. We can’t go to a discussion and be completely the demander, with them not feeling that they need anything from us.” — Robert Gates, US Secretary of Defense

Let’s see, where has Bush’s brand of cowboy diplomacy got us?

* The US was attacked on 9/11 after Bush ignored a string of dire and insistent warnings (he then went on vacation for a month)

* After Bush vowed to capture bin Laden, 6 months later he said he was “truly not that concerned about him” and … even after cornering bin Laden at Tora Bora, he was allowed to escape.

* Bush invaded Iraq based on lies, supported by a mass propaganda effort, and in a botched plan, didn’t provide for securing Iraq’s borders. Now there is a quagmire. A situation that the former top commander in Iraq, Gen Sanchez called: “a nightmare with no end in sight.”

* Al Qaeda has strengthened and a gov’t report lambasted the Bush Adminitration for having no plan to do anything about it and stated because of this incompetence, another attack could be expected.

* Iran has become emboldened and belligerent. The Middle East has become increasingly destabilized. Who knows what this could hold for future oil prices and the US economy.

Question: with this record, is Bush in a position to criticize someone else’s foreign policy?

This is all documented FACT. Visit website for links and documentation.
http://tennesseefree.com/2008/05/15/bush-equates-talking-to-terrorists-with-appeasing-nazis/

May 15, 2008 - 11:34 am 30. JohnMc:

That’s right TS. Don’t address the issue. Just make insults. You people take offense so easily, and resort to insults so quickly that I’m almost looking forward to some time poking fun at you.

May 15, 2008 - 11:34 am 31. Oh Bother : Post Politics: Political News and Views in Tennessee:

[...] Steve Gill wants to know if it bothers Barack Obama that certain organization linked with terrorism seem to like him so much: The support that Barack Obama is receiving from avowed terrorist enemies of America should bother him. The fact that it does not bother him should bother us even more than the fact that terrorists see something in him that they really like. [...]

May 15, 2008 - 11:35 am 32. JohnMc:

William,

The difference between what Gates and Rice said with what Obama has said is enormous. If you actually read the article, Gates never said we should sit down without preconditions. He said we need LEVERAGE before we sit down. Obama said we should talk to them with no preconditions. It’s an huge difference.

As for the rest of your screed, try to stay on topic, ok?

May 15, 2008 - 11:50 am 33. BMoon:

What bothers most people about Obama is not what he says. When you can discern what he says behind the stale bromides, he has said many things that are quite in line with moderate, even conservative views. He has said he wants to increase the US military to combat terrorism. He said he is in favor of preemptive strikes. He voted in favor of the funding in Iraq. Everyone agrees that he is the consumate politician with a unique gift of gab and discerning what and when to say to whom. He does want to get elected after all.

What bothers the more critical, discerning, the less credulous is the enormous blank screen looming before us -who is Barak Hussein Obama really? Is he the extreme leftist who aligns with Anti-Semites and terrorists like Ayer, Wright and Farrakhan? Is the smooth Mr. Hopey Changey promoted by the media the same one that Hamas, Hezbollah and the Iranian war-mullahs are salivating in their kaffiyehs and peeing in their tunics with giddy anticipation of his leading the US as they move massive arms into Lebanon this very moment? Or are his virulent, rabid supporters at MoveSoroON and DailyKKKos merely deluded children who have placed their hopes and gazillions of dollars in someone who will ultimately do the opposite of what they want?

I think it is quite commonsensical to think that id Hamas is for him, anybody and everybody who does not align with Hamas’ intents and dogma should move away from him…without delay.

May 15, 2008 - 12:01 pm 34. Anthony (Los Angeles):

…in the context of a recent Al-Jazeera story about how young Palestinians in Gaza have banded together to call American voters at random asking them to vote for Obama. Rockets by night, Obama phone banks by day?

Oh, that should win Obama lots of votes. Look how much good it did Kerry when al-Guardian tried the same thing in 2004.

May 15, 2008 - 12:02 pm 35. LogicalUS:

William, your ignorance is showing..

Don’t be a fool all your life and answer one question:

Why would Obama and the Democrats instantly figure that President Bush was talking about them of all the people in the world? It could have been the UN, BBC, or the EU?

Feeling guilty, huh!

As for foreign policy, 25 million Iraqis, 20 million Afghans along with millions of Kurds and Kuwaitis are surely happy with the results of Bush, now that they no longer under the thugs of Saddam and the Taliban, but I am sure that they don’t mean as much as how the NY Times and the coffeeshops in Seattle feel. Iran was pretty quiet until it became known that western leftists hated President Bush and conservatives more than they did.

May 15, 2008 - 12:06 pm 36. steve gill:

The linkage between Obama and Hamas is actually deeper than their simple onesided endorsement of his campaign.

Obama had to let one of his top Middle East Advisors go this week after it was discovered that he had met several times with Hamas leaders. And let’s not forget that the Hamas terror manifesto was included in Obama’s church bulletin by his friend and pastor Jeremiah Wright not long ago. The claims that Obama has not “had relations with that terror group…Hamas” rings as untrue as Clinton’s Lewinsky denials.

Obama is circulating brochures in Kentucky that show him at a church pulpit with a large Cross over his shoulder in an outreach for Kentucky’s Christian voters who presumably “cling to their Bibles and guns.” Will he use the same brochure in Dearborn, Michigan? Or does he play the Islam card where it suits him (in the Middle East and in Islamic communities in the U.S.) and the Christian card elsewhere?

May 15, 2008 - 12:08 pm 37. M. Simon:

Talk to the Pajamas web site developer and get him/her to darken the links. They are really hard to tell from the text if the link is a short word.

May 15, 2008 - 12:29 pm 38. Paul B:

“You can’t have it both ways Paul. You are quoting what Obama has said. So has Steve Gill.”

The difference between what I quoted and what Steve quoted is that mine provides crucial context which makes the premise of his post irrelevant. Steve’s failure to quote, cite, or paraphrase Obama’s repeated condemnation of Hamas as a terrorist organization cannot be reasonably attributed to mere incompetence as a writer, it’s blatently dishonest and in bad faith.

May 15, 2008 - 12:32 pm 39. William:

Steve Gill smears Obama, pedals the fear of Hamas after al Qaeda grows stronger under the president he voted for twice. That should give an indication of the quality of his opinions.

LogicalUS: YOUR ignorance is showing. By every poll ever taken, the Iraqis want the US out of Iraq. Even our allies in the region, the Saudis have called the US occupation ‘illegal.’ That should really help the price of oil, aye?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6505803.stm

May 15, 2008 - 1:02 pm 40. Dodgeblogium » Obama’s Lying Roots:

[...] Steve Gill examined the curious lack of concern from Obama regarding those who endorse him of a dubious nature like Hamas. [...]

May 15, 2008 - 1:17 pm 41. cfbleachers:

The issue that concerns me is the comfort that Sen. Obama has with some very extremist worldviews.

He has a comfort with Frank Marshall Davis’ worldview, to the extent that he held the man in high esteem. In isolation, that’s not determinative, but in combination with other factors begins to paint a picture.

He has a comfort with Jeremiah Wright’s worldview, to the extent that he held the man in high esteem. This is quite disturbing. The embrace that Sen. Obama wrapped around Jeremiah Wright was not fleeting or casual. I would not embrace David Duke, and would view anyone who did with a jaundiced eye. I find Jeremiah Wright’s worldview as disgraceful and repulsive as David Duke’s.

He appears to have had a comfort with Rashid Khalidi, Ali Abunimah, Edward Said worldview, to the extent that he held these men in high esteem. That is quite disturbing. I am a staunch defender of Israel as an ally and believe she is constantly picked on by a combination of leftists, Islamo-fascists, and Farrakhan/Wright types who slander her repeatedly.

He seems quite comfortable with the Nation of Islam, to the extent that he utilizes members of that group in his highest staff postions. This is not suspect in the South Side of Chicago, but it does give any rational person pause…when the similarities between Wright and Farrakhan are examined more closely.

He seems quite comfortable with the extreme radical worldview of Ayers and Dorhn and their ilk. I’m sorry, but there is a point where traditional liberalism ends and anarchy begins. I consider Ayers and Dorhn treasonous, seditious, and they are no more my countrymen than Osama Bin Laden. Their worldview is one intending to bring down this government and I have absolutely no use for their extremist goals.

Let’s not be coy or disingenuous. Sen. Obama has been extremely cozy and comfortable surrounded by some of the most virulent anti-America and anti-Israel voices that exist.

He has embraced the holders of worldviews which are antithetical to what is normally considered within the bounds of patriotic discourse and within the range of reason and rational thought.

When you combine that with the small things that send up a signal flare (discomfort with a flag lapel pin, accusing middle America of “clinging” to religion, Michelle’s description of America as angry, mean, slothful, the request to abandon corporate America et al)…the picture that is painted is one of someone who is closer to Michael Moore than to John F. Kennedy.

Moore lacks charm and charisma and is basically a slob who is willing to put his lies on screen. Sen. Obama is a gifted orator who hides his embrace of extremism behind the shroud of pedantic smugness. He is “above” all these “distractions”.

Well, I’m sorry…but, if he is not willing to confront his own leanings and embraces…then he simply is someone who wishes to run on personality, not principle. And that is fine in high school, but not for the the most powerful position in the world.

May 15, 2008 - 1:30 pm 42. ts:

You people take offense so easily…

I’m not offended, fella. It’s hard to fault an old dog for sh*itting on the carpet.

May 15, 2008 - 1:31 pm 43. politicalreacharound:

Well I am sure white supremacists support McCain as do Neo-nazis and a variety of other crazies out there. Perhaps as terrible as Hamas is they are proving that people in the middle east are rational actors who act in their own twisted best interest. Because if they were truly crazy about fighting forever they would endorse McCain who would continue the wars which have created more terrorist than have been killed.

May 15, 2008 - 1:47 pm 44. Jen:

Obama…Osama…Whats the difference?

May 15, 2008 - 1:50 pm 45. Tom W.:

“Cowboy diplomacy.”

I like that! Never heard it before. Ever.

And of course al Qaeda is stronger than ever. Look how it’s expanded its control in Iraq. It used to hold all of al Anbar Province. Now, it holds about a quarter of the city of Mosul.

Stronger than ever. Up is down. Black is white.

What an Orwellian new-speak world lefties spin.

May 15, 2008 - 1:54 pm 46. William:

cfbleachers:
Yea, take comfort in McCain spiritual advisor Rod Parsley who McCain says that he is “greatful” and “very honored” for Parsley’s “leadership and guidance.”

Here’s what kind of guidance Pastor Parsley gives McCain:

“Mohammed received revelations from demon spirits, not from the living God. America was founded in part with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed. … We were built for the battle, we were created for the conflict, we get off on warfare”

I guess you like perpetual warfare. McCain is going to have his work cut out for him exterminating 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. Unlike Obama and Rev Wright, McCain has never repudiated these views.

May 15, 2008 - 1:57 pm 47. Matamoros:

Obama…Osama…Whats the difference?

No differece: the same son of Beast.

May 15, 2008 - 2:24 pm 48. Olivia:

William,
You and the Obamabots need to get over yourself.
Obama is not the first idiot who thinks we should negotiate without preconditions or that just a little hope and change will stir the hearts of the people who want to blow us up. Wasn’t Jimmy Carter just recently sharing scones with Hamas.

As per usual with Obambi, it’s all about him. He doesn’t need votes from Florida, Michigan, the upcoming primaries, working class voters, women, seniors or anybody else. He’s the messiah. More like the anti-christ.

May 15, 2008 - 2:30 pm 49. Susan Feinberg:

The problem w/ BO is: he isn’t much of anything!

He doesn’t take a strong stance on any single issue, and when necessary, he changes his opinions to suit the momentary situation.
Even if he were strong on being a Muslim, or Christian, or left-wing liberal, or conservative, or racist, or black, or white… whatever, then there would be some substance behind him, and we would have a case to discuss.

NOTHING IS THERE!

May 15, 2008 - 2:34 pm 50. Evil Pundit:

So Obama denounced Hamas. Obama denounced Jeremiah Wright too.

Can we believe him when he denounces his mentor of 20 years for the sake of political expediency? Can we believe him when he denounces Hamas?

May 15, 2008 - 2:46 pm 51. Believer:

William:

“Steve Gill smears Obama…”

Wrong. Obama has smeared himself. He’s shown zero character and judgment.

His campaign is littered with his lies and doubletalk.

Only a fool would believe anything he says at this point.

May 15, 2008 - 2:49 pm 52. Marsouin:

He also has support from the FARC and Chavez. A good question for him at the next debate: Sen. Obama what is it about you and your policies that attracts the support from so many totalitarian groups both here in the US and abroad?

May 15, 2008 - 2:52 pm 53. Fat Man:

I want those Gaza Callers to focus on South Florida.

May 15, 2008 - 2:54 pm 54. sgt. lebow:

You have to know what a strawman this argument is right? I mean, taken to it’s logical conclusion, we’re enabling terrorists organizations the opportunity to fix our elections. Osama has said before that he supports Republicans because of their reckless
foreign policy.

May 15, 2008 - 2:59 pm 55. E. Nough:

“Because if they were truly crazy about fighting forever…”

I don’t think Hamas et al are interested in “fighting forever.” They are interested in winning. And they endorse Obama because they think he will bring them closer to that goal.

I wonder what gives them that idea.

May 15, 2008 - 3:23 pm 56. Night Owl:

politicalreacharound said:
“Perhaps as terrible as Hamas is they are proving that people in the middle east are rational actors who act in their own twisted best interest.”

“twisted best interest”

I like this phrase. It hits at the heart of the Israeli-Arab conflict. One or more groups’ “best interest” is “twisted”. I wouldn’t agree to call it rational, however. Rational players would have resolved the issues long ago. Emotions are doing the twisting, and rationality has gone bye-bye. Call me a cynic, but I’m not optimistic that anyone, even magical Obama or maverick McCain will have much luck untwisting that mess.

As to why isn’t Obama bothered by terrorist support? My guess- his ego. He believes his own hype, that when he speaks, healing salve pours from his lips that will erase all the history of anger and pain that exists in places like the ME. We will finally have peace, as long as he says “yes we can”.

May 15, 2008 - 3:50 pm 57. Tom Paine:

geoff, ultyrunner, Paul B, William, and politicalreacharound

The Kolossal KacoPhoney of the Kos Klucks Klan has been informed of your brilliant obfuscations.

You will all be receiving nice bonus checks.

May 15, 2008 - 4:30 pm 58. cfbleachers:

“Yea, take comfort in McCain spiritual advisor Rod Parsley who McCain says that he is “greatful” and “very honored” for Parsley’s “leadership and guidance.”

Nothing I wrote raised the issue of Sen. McCain. At all. Sen. Obama has his own issues and if Rev. Meeks or Otis Moss held the same relationship to Sen. Obama as Parsley (or Hagee) hold to Sen. McCain…then it would be a wash.

However, William…I think the attempt at moral equivalence between the embrace of Jeremiah Wright/Sen. Obama…and the very thin relationship between Parsley/Sen. McCain…doom your argument.

They simply are not nearly equivalent in time, scope, proximity, depth, breadth, or passion.

Moreover, the whole point is that Sen. Obama has NUMEROUS relationships that are deeper and broader with extremists, than…well, really any other national politician in memory.

One might overlook or ignore a single, remote, sporadic, distant relationship with a person who was “a bit out there”.

That’s not the case with Sen. Obama. His chief blogger, Sam Graham-Felsen is a Chomskyite. Frank Marshall Davis was an ardent and strident Communist…America basher.

Jeremiah Wright is a firebrand America/Israel basher.

Ayers and Dorhn want to overthrow the government and get rid of capitalism.

Tossing up Parsley against that lineup…is like tossing a sprig of parsley in ton of raw pork.

“I guess you like perpetual warfare. McCain is going to have his work cut out for him exterminating 1.8 billion Muslims in the world. Unlike Obama and Rev Wright, McCain has never repudiated these views”

This is quite a stretch. I “like war” because I have concerns over the cozy and comfortable lifelong attachments to extremist views of Sen. Obama?

Hardly. Is it your suggestion that Sen. McCain wishes to exterminate 1.8 billion Muslims? That particular notion belongs in the class of theories that America invented the AIDS virus to kill people of color.

It’s so “out there”, not even the most strident leftists would be caught dead supporting it.

Let’s try to stay on point. Sen. Obama has a lifelong, deep and personal attachment to very extreme worldviews. That’s a concern. It remains a concern, no matter who else is in the race…it is a worthy line of inquiry and deserves to be vetted fully.

May 15, 2008 - 4:44 pm 59. John:

After reading the Obama quotes in context, I must say I´m surprised Pajamasmedia even took in this article.

It´s weak, very week. And I´m not even a democrat.

May 15, 2008 - 4:46 pm 60. -W-:

Wearing a flag on one’s lapel does not make one a patriot. Putting one’s hand over one’s heart during the Pledge of Allegiance does not make one a patriot. Participating in this democracy, questioning the government, calling out the government when it is wrong, exercising one’s rights, helping one’s neighbor irrespective of race, religion, creed, etc. are what patriotism is about. Evolving and advancing society, building relationships in a global environment are patriotism. Facing state enemies with diplomacy first and military action second is patriotism. As a former Army Ranger, I know this to be true. If I can accomplish my objective without firing a shot, that is great!

Obama being “endorsed” by Hamas is not an issue. Hamas does not govern the United States nor control what Americans think. You all on this blog give Hamas way too much credit and influence in the US. Shame on you. Hamas is not the problem, Iraq and Afghanistan are not the problem. The problem is Iran. With that in mind, we should have communication with Tehran and try a diplomatic approach (with finger on the trigger) to resolve issues. This is not negotiating with terrorists. This is exercising moral fortitude. We can easily wipe Iran off the map and it knows that.

May 15, 2008 - 5:07 pm 61. schnargley:

All you ignorant plebes just cannot understand Obama because he represents the change of today. Chomsky has shown that words are just expendable mini-interpreters of ourselves. We can only see in them what we want to see… what the hearer hears is not waht the sayer says. So whether you are an All-American, flag-waving embittered small town Joe clinging to your religion or a Hamas freedom fighter, or a college student who Imagines as John Lennon taught us, Obama has given us all this freedom – the freedom to see in him what our hopes are. The freedom to see in him our fears allayed. The freedom to be the change we ant to be.

May 15, 2008 - 5:22 pm 62. Bill Bradley:

Why am I not bothered by far right support

May 15, 2008 - 6:51 pm 63. Harold Damon:

OBAMA HUSSEIN WILL NEVER GET ELECTED PREZ
OVER THE LAPEL FLAG FLAP BECAUSE NOBODY
WANTS A LEADER WHO DOES NOT RESPECT HIS
OWN SYMBOLIC FLAG

May 15, 2008 - 7:33 pm 64. Believer:

Hi Bill Bradley -

Sorry to be OT, but you know this stuff:

Did California’s Supreme Court today pretty much secure the state for McCain?

May 15, 2008 - 7:57 pm 65. nohalal:

because he is the manchurian candidate.If his father is a muslim he is automatically a muslim.If he would leave islam his own father would kill him straight away.The taqyija tactic of deceit allows muslims to lie,deceive the infidels also by pretending not to be muslim like for example to pretend to be a christian.

May 15, 2008 - 8:13 pm 66. mishu:

Obama has given us all this freedom

OMG! He is the Messiah! Hallelujah!

:P

May 15, 2008 - 8:22 pm 67. Typical White Person:

Drudge is linking to story claiming new Obama bin…I mean OSAMA bin Laden tape coming out.
Is this his Obama endorsement???????

May 15, 2008 - 8:26 pm 68. Bruce:

Obama should ignore this – to give it attention would only legitimize it more than it deserves.

May 15, 2008 - 8:42 pm 69. Islamic Terrorists Support Obama, And He Is Silent About it « Sword At-The-Ready:

[...] Why Isn’t Obama Bothered By Terrorist Support? [...]

May 15, 2008 - 10:21 pm 70. PA:

Obama ignores everything including 2 states of voters here in the US. Why would he be concerned, he’s getting more money filtered over for his campaign!

Just ponder “tell me who your friends are and I’ll tell you who you are”… Think about it, and if you can truly still cast your vote for Obama then go for it; otherwise consider McCain or Clinton!

May 15, 2008 - 11:17 pm 71. ObamaNitWits:

I am a Democrat and very fearful and worried about our country if Obama was to become the next President. If I have to, I will cross party lines and vote for McCain.

May 15, 2008 - 11:27 pm 72. M.d.N.:

It wasn’t my intention, but somebody here had the arrogance, showing his absolute ignorance, of speaking about “Bush’s brand of cowboy diplomacy”. So, remembering Jesus Christ’s words “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you” (Matt. 7, 6), I feel my duty to repeat my comment published in another place:

The War in Iraq is the central and most sensitive question of these strange American elections (for an European), where the most absurd voices are opposed to the most obvious reasons. I am sure the racial or religious problem is secondary in these elections, if not quite irrelevant. The primary problem is the historical destiny of the United States. And the destiny of this great country is the destiny of the World. So I think it necessary to have a clear idea, based on the reality and not on the demagogical fantasies of the American liberals and the European leftists, of this “strange” War.
From the military point of view the Iraqi war was perhaps the easiest of all the wars in the history of the United States, and nevertheless, it provoked more resistance everywhere than any other. And not because it was a “mistaken” war; on the contrary, it was absolutely right and necessary, lead with a mastery that not very often has been seen in contemporary history. There must be not confounded, as mass media do, the war in strict sense, fought and won in little more than two weeks, and the terrorist guerrilla of post-war period, that still lasts and that was always particularly difficult for a regular army.
In Northern Ireland it lasted more than forty years with almost four thousand dead, mainly civil, and it was extinguished rather because the terrorist groups lost their “social base” than by the military action. But Americans have demonstrated their effectiveness and, above all, political wisdom also in this “war without rules”, organizing the new Iraqi army and assuring free elections. Clausewitz would be ecstatic before this military and political capacity of the Americans. In effect, war becomes inevitable, like a surgical operation, when the “ordinary medicine” of pure politics works no longer, creating a new context that allows politic to follow its course again.
From the historical point of view its consequences can be compared only with those of the II World War, which created a new order based in the separated “spheres of influences”. The dismantling of the Soviet Union finished off this system of “balances”, quite fluctuating, by the way. The nations had to find a new equilibrium or direction in order to continue their historical existence and no to be lost in the labyrinth of the time without exit and end. In effect, time is not a simple “physical quantity”, but a creation of the man, that is to say, only the historical time is real.
From the political point of view, for those who have been witnesses of the evolution of the last 20 years, the change produced by the Iraqi war appears still more radical, because it has concluded definitively the era of coexistence with the dictatorships, that are impenetrable, except for crime and putrefaction, like a dense and dark matter, to all vivifying movement. The dismantling of two monstrous and irremediably criminal regimes, like those of the talibans and of Saadam Hussein, has created new democracies, reinforced the existing ones, and not only in the Middle East, but also in the Eastern Europe, causing contemporarily the weakening of dictatorships that still remain and try desperately to counteract and to resist the extension of the democratic sphere.
And, on the contrary, the lack of American military response after the terrorist attack of the 11 of September would have flooded Europe and the United States with terrorism, and not only Islamic, but also “revolutionary”, constantly awaiting propitious occasion to resume its destructive action; it would have reinforced the criminal regimes, weakened the existing democracies and suffocated the new ones. This is the unique and main reason that provoked the protest of the “pacifists” and “liberals”, who have always collaborated with all totalitarian regimes of the worse kind, without hiding their irrational hatred for democracy. In effect, all these protests had an only aim: to prevent the expansion of the democratic sphere, that can happen only under the American sign, because the American democracy is the only one that has a true universal vocation, and for that reason no reactionary force, represented by all dictatorial regimes, can stop its march to freedom.
In our time the most reactionary force is Islamism in all its forms, radical and “moderate”. That is why the Afganian and Iraqi Wars were true revolutionary ones, like the American War of Independence, and George W. Bush is the only true revolutionary President, like the great Commander-in-Chief George Washington. In this historical context, a vile demagogue, like Obama who preaches tolerance and peace with the criminal Islamofascist and communist dictatorships, these by-products of the History, can only disappear in the Nought from where he came out.

May 16, 2008 - 1:49 am 73. Bill45:

‘Again, we must remind the rest of the world: “Cowboy” is not quite the insult you believe it to be…” James Lileks

See what a foreigner Obama really is? He thinks the adjective “cowboy” to describe something American is an insult.

May 16, 2008 - 4:37 am 74. JohnMc:

shnargley,

If your post was meant to be parody, it was brilliant. If not…

May 16, 2008 - 4:50 am 75. regmax:

WOW !!! Bush a revolutionary prez … chuckles all around . He read a kiddie book while his country was attacked buy his buddies the saudies. He failed at every endeavor he attempted . Student (c- average ) cheerleader (lol), pilot , gov , businessman , prez …
Talk about voting for an empty suit , twice
Get over it guys , the reps are toast …

May 16, 2008 - 5:01 am 76. JohnMc:

Reg,

I’m not going to carry water for Bush or the current crop of republicans, but your post was just moronic.

I didn’t know that a “C” average constituted a failure. Here are some people who dropped out of school entirey. Some huge failures here:
1) Bill Gates-founder of Microsoft; billionaire
2) Michael Dell-founder of Dell Computers; billionaire
3) Steve Jobs-co-founder of Apple Computers; billionaire
4) Steve Wozniak-co-founder of Apple Computers
5) David Geffen-co-founder of Dreamworks, SKG

The list goes on, but you get the point.

Since he never died piloting fighter jets in the TAG, I don’t know how you call him a failure as a pilot. Have YOU ever piloted anything more than a Prius?

He was elected Governor of Texas twice. He would have won a third term if he wanted.

Businessman? I guess he’s as as successful a businessman as you are a satirist.

President? Well, maybe I’ll concede some ground there, but not likely for the same reasons as you. As for voting for an empty suit, well, that says more about Gore and Kerry than it does about Bush.

May 16, 2008 - 6:53 am 77. Jimmy Molley:

Is Steve Gill a member of the Tennessee Republican Party? You mean if you are not white and you do not support putting America`s nose into everyone ele`s backyard then you do not know what you are talking about.
Come on America stop preaching to everyone else and get your own house in order.
All we hear is how great America is and what it has done in all the wars………which eventually they have lost!

Maybe a new approach is worth thinking about as the current American line of thinking has expired its “use by date”.

Retire Bush and the Republicans and let`s see if the peace of this world returns.

May 16, 2008 - 9:08 am 78. peet:

Wow…it looks like I just stepped into a crazy factory.

It hardly seems worth attacking you all for your biases, lies, assumptions, receieved “wisdom”, and pervasive ignorance of the facts. It would be like shooting a butterfly with a shotgun. But I’ll tell you what. Start by cleaning up your grammar and learning how to operate a spell-check, and I MAY come back and enlighten you.

“I don’t like country music, but I don’t mean to denigrate people who do. And for those who do like country music, denigrate means ‘to put down’”

May 16, 2008 - 11:07 am 79. JohnMc:

You might want to use the spell-check yourself there Pete ol’ buddy.

May 16, 2008 - 12:06 pm 80. Believer:

To sit down with Ahmadinejad for productive dialogue would be like sitting down with Charles Manson. The only difference being one has a shorter haircut.

Come to think of it, whether Obama sat down with one or the other, it would still be one loon talking to another.

The very suggestion of such a thing calls into question one’s sanity.

May 16, 2008 - 12:18 pm 81. peet:

Well, SOMEBODY’S paying attention. Thanks. Now, on to the substance. Anyone? You want to explain to me how Obama is a Muslim who attends a Christian church? (BTW, to an earlier post, the reason Obama’s dad won’t kill him for converting is that..uh…Obama’s father died in 1982). Or how Hamas is in power largely because of Condolleeza Rice? Or show me evidence, in Obama’s own words, that he expressly supports Islamofascists? Or show me evidence, in Obama’s own words, of longheld “extremist” views (realizing that your extremist views might not be mine)? Long on accusations and attacks, everyone, but very short on substance. Just like Bush.

May 16, 2008 - 12:32 pm 82. SukieTawdry:

Oh, William, so many “facts”, so little time. To address but a few:

Iran has been emboldened? You mean as opposed to the meek, timid Iran that captured the US embassy and kidnapped members of the diplomatic corp in 1979 holding them captive for over a year?

The Middle East has become destabilized? As opposed to the stability of the Soviet invasion of and 10-year war in Afghanistan, the eight-year Iraq/Iran war, Iraq’s invasion and occupation of Kuwait resulting in the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam Hussein’s attempted genocides of the Kurds and southern Shia, Pakistan’s development of nuclear weapons in the late 80’s, Yasir Arafat’s various and sundry “holy wars” and the rise and entrenchment of terrorist organizations Hezbollah and Hamas? That stability?

Al Qaeda has been strengthened? You mean the same Al Qaeda that had been permitted to grow, develop and become enriched and, yes, emboldened through the Bush I and Clinton administrations? The same Al Qaeda that killed two people in an attempt on American soldiers in Yemen in 1992, six people in an attempt on the World Trade Center in 1993, nearly 300 people in the East Africa embassy bombing in 1998, 17 US servicemen in the attack on the USS Cole in 2000 and nearly 3000 people on September 11, 2001, but has not been able to pull off anything major since? The one that’s lost most of its leadership, most of it’s following, most of it’s support and most of it’s financial backing and currently is getting its ass kicked in Iraq? That Al Qaeda??

Bush invaded Iraq based on lies? You mean the “lies” told in the intelligence reports of agencies around the globe? The “lies” accepted as fact by the likes of the United Nations, President Bill Clinton, Vice President and presidential candidate Al Gore, Senator and future presidential candidate John Kerry, Senator and future presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, Senator and future presidential and vice-presidential candidate John Edwards? The “lies” that persuaded 296 Representatives and 77 Senators to authorize President Bush “to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions regarding Iraq?” Those lies?

And if he is misguided, and I’m not necessarily saying he is, at least Robert Gates wants to “figure out a way to develop some leverage” before he sits down with Iran (publicly, that is; you do realize we’ve been “talking” to Iran for quite some time now).

May 16, 2008 - 2:45 pm 83. Johnm:

Peet,

Each one of your questions could cover a 100 posts. The effect is that of a metphorical shotgun, hurling so many loosely related or totally inrelated questions (Obama’s father? WTF?)in an effort to obscure the original question. That question is why is Obama not more outraged by receiving the “endorsement” of a known terrorist group, given his association with known terrorists like Ayers or Dorn? It is not a straw man argument, as so many have claimed. It speaks to his judgement.

And let’s look at this from the other angle. If McCain had a long history with, oh, say an abortion clinic bomber, and recieved the explicit endorsement of the leader of a Columbian right-wing death squad, you would be all over him like flies on a hound.

May 16, 2008 - 4:16 pm 84. Johnm:

Just to expand a bit — I was a little rushed before — sorry, didn’t spell-check!

Obama could have defused this issue immediately had he responded the way that Micheal Yon suggested he respond. If Obama had said, “Hamas will be very sorry if I become president.” Poof! The issue would never have arisen. What could the Republicans have possibly said to that? Nothing. Obama would have looked presidential and quick on his feet. But no. Instead, one of his minions claims to be flattered by the endorsement, and when Obama gets called on it, he wigs out like a thin-skinned amateur. This issue may not be very big in the scheme of things, but he has handled it like blind shortstop.

May 16, 2008 - 4:51 pm 85. Ardeshir Dolat:

Ok. I ask those who believe America should talk to the terrorists, do you understand what the terrorists want from America? Do you know what they want? You should because it is very clear. Those who say America should talk to Hamas, Hezbullah and Ahmadinejad, are inadvertently saying America should consider the annihilation of Israel to start with. Then America should consider that every trace of American cultural, economic and political influences should be wiped off anywhere in the Muslim world, i.e. Democratic principles and values. Next will be implementation of Sharia laws in secular or Christian countries in Europe and America for the Muslim communities that live there. These are just some examples. Is that Ok with you guys? Or do you believe you can talk them out of it?! Or do you believe there is a middle ground that Hamas and Hezbullah and Ahmadinejad would be happy with? I tell you there is no middle ground. Hamas and Hizbullah, Qodse, Al Qaida and Islamic Republic – the supplier of all these terrorists – are what you see. They are not negotiating with America: they are commanding America.

War is evil but when that evil is imposed on you, you either battle it and win it or lose it or you just concede to the demands of your enemy without putting up a fight. To me those, who say lets talk and negotiate with the terrorist, are those who want to concede to the terrorists because they hate war! I hate war too! But I for one would not be happy with anyone who wants to give away my freedom and civil liberties. I will not be happy at all for anyone to negotiate my values and principles with the terrorists.

The democrat American are naive – very naive.

May 16, 2008 - 8:21 pm 86. Linking around: Bush/Obama/Hamas & more | The Anchoress:

[...] to do it. Even Lou Dobbs seems a little embarrassed about it. Probably if Obama does not want to seem comfortable with terrorists or any associations with them, he should maybe start by taking the tiniest baby-step [...]

May 16, 2008 - 9:09 pm 87. John Samford:

“I don’t like country music, but I don’t mean to denigrate people who do. And for those who do like country music, denigrate means ‘to put down’”

Actually, it doesn’t;
den·i·grate Audio Help /ˈdɛnɪˌgreɪt/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[den-i-greyt] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -grat·ed, -grat·ing.
1. to speak damagingly of; criticize in a derogatory manner; sully; defame: to denigrate someone’s character.
2. to treat or represent as lacking in value or importance; belittle; disparage: to denigrate someone’s contributions to a project.
3. to make black; blacken: rain clouds denigrating the sky.
[Origin: 1520–30; < L dénigrātus (ptp. of dénigrāre to blacken), equiv. to dé- de- + nigr(āre) to make black + -ātus -ate1]

—Related forms
den·i·gra·tion, noun
den·i·gra·tive, adjective
den·i·gra·tor, noun
den·i·gra·to·ry

Nothing there about ‘to stop carrying’ something.
Much ado over nothing, Ohhhh……BAMA hasn’t a snowballs chance in ‘ell of getting elected POTUS. Even if he manges to do in Billery, there is always Raoul. Not to mention he will put up Dukakis type EV margins.

May 17, 2008 - 7:19 am 88. schnargley:

Why should an Hamas endorsement even be a problem? Like another Obama supporter, Chavez of Venezueala, they are the legitmately elected government of Gaza. The U.N has 5,000 Hamas people on its payroll. Pres. Jimmy Carter found them very accomodating and open to discussion. Why not give peace a chance? That is all Obama is saying.

I heard that Kim Jong-Il is about to announce an endorsement. This means hope, a change we can finally believe in.

May 17, 2008 - 9:01 am 89. Audacity:

Obama is part of Marxist agenda. To understand Obama fully well is to understand his spiritual root.

Everyone is talking about Obama’s pastor. But what most Americans do not know is what Obama’s church really stands for. TUCC believes in “Black Liberation Theology”. Obama has been in this church for about 20 years now. So the question is: What is Black Liberation Theology?

“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community … Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.”

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/05/13/black-liberation-theology-this-is-what-obama-believes-in/

May 17, 2008 - 9:08 am 90. schnargley:

What’s all the fuss about the Hamas enorsement? The U.N even recognizes Hamas as a force for stability and peace in the region by employing over 5,000 of its members as employees. Pres. Jimmy Carter found them quite accomodating, willing to talk, and intensely interested in peace. Like Pres. Chavez, another Obama supporter, they are the legitimately elected government of Gaza. What? All you neo-cons are against democracy now? Haven’t we invaded enough innocent countries? Are you all Nazis? All Ovbama is saying is give peace a chance. He ses beyongd the petty differences and can unite the world.

I just heard that Kim Jong-Il is about to announce his endorsement of Obama. Come, join the revolution!

May 17, 2008 - 9:08 am 91. Believer:

How long has Obama, with his buddies Ayers and Wright, been working to bring “hope” and “change” to South Chicago? See much improvement there? It’s been a few decades, at least, working their special brand of magic.

As board chairman of Ayers’ pet project, Annenberg Chicago Challenge, Obama (and his pals) frittered away some $50million. It’s purpose was to improve education. Yes, Ayers involved in the education of young people. I guess we can be thankful these private funds were a waste.

But it could have been your tax dollars funding the ideas of an unrepentant domestic terrorist. So the next time you hear Obama say he wants to improve education in America, pause a moment, and remember this success story.

The recent gun violence in the heart of their community should remind us all of Obama’s efforts, along with his wonderful pastor, to heal the souls in their little corner of America. Words of comfort and love from the pulpit.

So when Obama and Michelle next pronounce that “the one” has arrived to save not just America, but the world, well, do pause and consider his past efforts.

It’s not a stretch to think he’ll put as much faith in Hamas as he has in Wright and Ayers.

May 17, 2008 - 10:34 am 92. middleoftheroad:

I only just discovered this website, while searching for some data. After reviewing several articles, and more importantly the comments engendered by them… It’s quite depressing to realize how many narrow minded people there are in the “free world” in 2008… I’ll not visit this site again. Goodbye.

May 18, 2008 - 8:10 pm 93. someguy:

William and regmax need to reevaluate where and how they get their bogus info. Oh yeah, bbc and michael moore are some really truthful and honest sources. please get a clue.

May 20, 2008 - 12:54 pm 94. wann:

Why is that so many Americans are so gullible and fall into Obama’s campaign? Are they really that stupid? Look at the whole kennedy gangs support Obama without hesitatin.

May 22, 2008 - 9:52 am 95. david steven gill:

[...] and chief political ….. I would not embrace david Duke, and would view anyone who did with a …http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/why-isnt-obama-bothered-by-terrorist-support/Historydavid gill/steven halberg limited firm history … david GILL/STEVEN HALBERG LIMITED was [...]

Jun 11, 2008 - 7:02 am 96. Tennesseefree.com » Barack Obama admits The Surge has succeeded. McCain was right, Obama was (and still is) wrong.:

[...] and terrorists are supporting Obama. Al-Jazeera and Hamas both love them some [...]

Jul 21, 2008 - 10:46 pm 97. Special Report: Why I Believe Barack Obama Will Not Win The 2008 Presidential Election « Jeremy’s Conservative Blog:

[...] radical anti-American extremists Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.  In fact, known terrorists support Obama.  Why?  Because Obama in office serves their own [...]

Sep 3, 2008 - 2:38 pm 98. Democrats Throw Away American Flags « Jeremy’s Conservative Blog:

[...]  I find it disgustingly unpatriotic for Obama (who has already proved he is unpatriotic by befriending terrorists and racists) to prove yet again he has no respect for our [...]

Sep 6, 2008 - 1:18 pm 99. A Real Message « Jeremy’s Conservative Blog:

[...] John McCain has NOT made up historical events as Obama has.  John McCain is not friends with terrorists or racists. Click on the links, read the stories and watch the [...]

Sep 20, 2008 - 5:35 pm 100. Road Sassy » Blog Archive » Racist, Black Separatist, Anti-American: Barack Obama in His Own Words:

[...] associations that Barack Obama has made over the years. They are reflected in those terrorists and Ameriphobes who find common ground with his [...]

Oct 7, 2008 - 10:14 pm 101. Ten Reasons Why I’m Not Voting for Obama « Don’t Drink the King’s Wine:

[...] Endorsements: He’s been endorsed by Hamas as well as the Communist Party USA. I’m seeing warning signs flashing here. Considering the [...]

Oct 10, 2008 - 12:58 pm 102. 8 weeks « 1 year in Korea:

[...] and Obama’s subsequent denouncement of Wright’s anti-American speech to recall the pattern. Known terrorists, both domestic and international, endorse Barack as their man. Young Palestinian men lobby on his [...]

Oct 18, 2008 - 6:12 pm 103. lauren:

umm, has anyone bothered asking why john mccain isn’t bothered that al qaeda is supporting him in this election?

Oct 31, 2008 - 9:58 am 104. • Dissent Against Radical Leftist Obama is Patriotic · Looking at the Left:

[...] Why Isn’t Obama Bothered by Terrorist Support? [...]

Nov 1, 2008 - 1:12 pm 105. ScooveSughBog:

Was ist das?

Mar 20, 2009 - 9:13 am

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