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1. J. Conaway:

…conservatives who assailed Barack Obama’s lack of experience now look silly and disingenuous defending Sarah Palin’s.

What I find silly is the fact that people attempt to twist governor Palin’s resume of solid executive action into the “I voted present” resume of Senator Obama. The two candidates are quite far apart in real world experience, so your article falls apart from the beginning. Place the experiences into their proper perspective. I do agree with most of the rest of your article, but I did feel this needed to be brought up.

Sep 5, 2008 - 3:36 am 2. Alicia Del Fino:

Leftists are scared out of their wits of an unabashed Palin acting the strong independent woman on the campaign trail.

The leftist fringe that controls the Democratic Party today cannot allow free thinking people on the loose, who might point out the legion of inconsistencies and counter-productive policies of the Democratic platform–like starving the United States of energy.

Sep 5, 2008 - 3:46 am 3. Dodgeblogium » Sarah Palin @ the RNC:

[...] Jennifer Rubin of PJM was well impressed as is Michael Weiss. [...]

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:39 am 4. SAF:

Palin has more executive experience than Obama, Biden and McCain put together. The fact that she has an 80% approval rating in Alaska means she must be doing something right.

Obama has spent his entire career trying to become president. Biden has spent his entire career trying to prove he is the smartest guy in the room. McCain spent his entire career trying to move the country to a better place. Palin wanted to improve education for her kids and went to the top of Alaska’s government to make it better.

There is lots I don’t agree with in terms of what McCain has done (especially his propensity in the past to keep taxes high). But looking at the track records of both party’s candidates the dems have me worried.

Sep 5, 2008 - 5:00 am 5. Ed Wallis:

Weiss, “Michael Kinsley is of course right to say that conservatives who assailed Barack Obama’s lack of experience now look silly and disingenuous defending Sarah Palin’s.”

RUBBISH.

Vote for McCain/Palin, you get a President with experience and integrity.

Vote for Zerobama, you get a President with thin skin, a thinner resume, and an open invitation to the demonstrated thuggery of his followers.

Sep 5, 2008 - 5:30 am 6. Anthony (Los Angeles):

The Palin “Creationism controversy” I think was adequately settled in two posts at Little Green Footballs:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31088_Sarah_Palin_and_Creationism

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31135_Palin_Has_Not_Pushed_Creationism_as_Governor#rss

Given the information he presents and looking at Palin’s performance regarding education since she became governor, I have no problem with her on this issue. Until and unless new information comes to light, I consider this a non-issue.

Sep 5, 2008 - 5:41 am 7. Tom W.:

Newsflash:

I’m in contact with the PUMAs, and they’re falling in love with Palin.

They’re terrified of pro-lifers, but they’re reassured that as a governor Palin is fanatically secular. They’re happy that the creationism issue was another Obama–I mean Kos–smear.

The PUMAs are starting to love Palin because every single adult woman has stories of being patronized, passed over, etc., by men, and Palin has already shown that she will gut anybody who tries that on her.

Get this: I’ve now heard dozens of times that when Palin was trashing Obama, PUMA members say they were jumping up and down in their homes, screaming at the TV, in absolute flabbergasted wonder at this woman’s power, ease, style, grace, brains, and ability to speak and connect with the audience. Mostly, though, they love her mad assassin’s skillz.

American women will not let this candidate go. They love her deeply, not as a goddess, but as a sister, and they are slowly absorbing the fact that it took the REPUBLICANS to put a woman on the ticket. We may see many radical feminists become Republicans, I kid you not. One PUMA went to McCain’s speech last night, and she started sobbing because McCain was so humble and emotional, and the people around her were so nice, patriotic, and happy. She’s used to ugly, angry, smelly leftists.

And this is a vital point to remember: McCain honored all women by choosing an exceptional woman who outshines him. He is so much of a man, so comfortable and secure with his masculinity, that he is entirely unthreatened by the fact that he has chosen the person who will eventually eclipse him. If he had chosen a nonentity, they’d be enraged at the pandering, but by choosing someone more impressive than he is and making clear that she will be an activist veep, he showed all women that he’s sincere.

From what I hear from the PUMAs, they’re going to fight to the death to elect McCain, in gratitude for him choosing such a formidable, accomplished, skilled predator with a record of leaving sexist men huddled on the floor in tears. Nobody’s ever seen anything like Palin. She makes Hillary and Boxer and all the other Beltway insiders look like bizarre life-sized wind-up toys that say and do the same thing over and over for years, without actually accomplishing anything.

Several feminists are now predicting a McCain-Palin landslide.

Here’s hoping.

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:24 am 8. Olivia:

What I find so troubling is the MSM ready to paint her as an ultra-conservative that should be feared. The only thing they are afraid of is her kicking liberal ass. The creationism issue really not a problem since at no point has she ever said it should be part of the curriculum.

What’s interesting is this is the most pro-abortion and most pro-life election.

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:55 am 9. Macgawd:

“Michael Kinsley is of course right to say that conservatives who assailed Barack Obama’s lack of experience now look silly and disingenuous defending Sarah Palin’s.”

This “Palin’s lack of experience” nonsense is growing tiresome. Just how many years does one need to have in an executive position before they are deemed experienced enough to be VP?

Sep 5, 2008 - 6:59 am 10. jay:

Anthony (Los Angeles),
Thanks for the links. It looks to me that what the left is afraid of is she wants creationism debated if it comes up. You know. GOD forbid if they discuss different ideas. They don’t like debates; it shows all their weaknesses. Whenever someone tries to put forward a different view than their own they go into shout down mode, just like the “code pink” idiots. According to the left, an open mind is a terrible thing. Ha, and they call “religious” people closed-minded.

Sep 5, 2008 - 7:30 am 11. Concerned Citizen:

“conservatives who assailed Barack Obama’s lack of experience now look silly and disingenuous defending Sarah Palin’s. ”

My Obama supporting friends all say the same thing. No one is asking the right question.

This isn’t about “experience”. It’s about ACCOMPLISHMENTS — not just your personal accomplishments, like getting a position or writing a book, it’s about what you did for others.

It isn’t that Obama was an organizer for three years (whatever that is) — what did he ACCOMPLISH while he was an organizer…how many people did he lift out of poverty, feed or shelter? Or was he just politically organizing people for his own benefit?

What legislation did Obama write that had a big impact?

OK, he wrote a couple of best selling books, but what impact did they have, other than promoting the Obama brand?

As for Palin, this lady gets things done and kicks butt. Selling the private jet? AMEN. Sending money back to the citizens of her state, instead of wasting it on politician’s pet projects. AMEN. This list goes on and she did this in short order.

No wonder she’s more popular than Obama or McCain.

This isn’t about experience, it’s about JUDGEMENT and ACCOMPLISHMENTS!!

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:02 am 12. schnargley:

“Leftists are scared out of their wits of an unabashed Palin acting the strong independent woman on the campaign trail.”(Alicia del Fino)

Whaaaaaat? That is absolutely ridiculous! Preposterous! Absurd! That’s hilarious! Hahahahahaha!!Heeeheeeheehee!It’s not true…really. It’s not!

BTW- Has anyone heard the latest allegations on her? – She raised her children in a cage in the basement and fed them raw bearmeat while performing Nazi-Eskimo rituals on them. Even somebody as believable as Rep. Wexler agrees this is true!!!

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:23 am 13. Robert Hurley:

In the end it was a selection that casts doubt on McCain’s judgment. No matter how you paint it or spin it, she has no experience that would qualify her for the position. That being said, I doubt if the pick will have any influence on the election. It is the state of the economy and the plans put forward to fix the economy that will determine the outcome

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:28 am 14. chicago:

Rasmussen polls today shows that more people think Palin is MORE qualified than Obamessiah to be President.

over half of people think that the media is out to hurt Sarah.

Nielsen ratings only showed 37 million people watched Sarah but that did not include PBS and CSPAN. Sarah actually had over 40 million viewers the night of her speech.

More Women watched Sarah’s speech than Obamessiah’s speech.

the leftwing libs are scared. Palin’s the news star that clearly shows reform and change, and Barry Soetero is now being viewed by people as nothing but a political hack from a corrupt political machine.

even journalist OUTSIDE the US have issued statements that the US media has been UNFAIR in their coverage of Sarah Palin. Journalists outside the US showed a lot more objectivity in their articles regarding Sarah. truly, 2008 is when journalism died in the US and the resulting backlas is going to sink the messiah in the polls in the coming weeks.

nuff said. dems are toast.

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:28 am 15. dragonfly777:

Obama’s list of experience education, wisdom and courage:

William Ayers – American Terrorist
Raila Odinga – Cousin, Radical Islamist
Raul Reyes – Columbian Terrorist
Antonio Rezko – Slum Lord
Professor Khalidi – Muslim Terrorist Supporter
Reverend Wright – Racist Supporter/Preacher, Anti-American
Reverend James Meeks – Racist
Reverend Louis Farrakhan – Racist Nation of Islam / Faux Preacher
Reverend. Jesse Jackson – Racist – Anti-Semetic
Nadhmi Auchi – Muslim Billionaire
Sohaib Abassi – Muslim Millionaire

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:39 am 16. dragonfly777:

Excellent analysis Michelle!! Every word true!

Sep 5, 2008 - 8:41 am 17. Richard:

PALadIN
Have Gun
Will Travel

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:00 am 18. Aureliano:

No matter how you paint it or spin it, she has no experience that would qualify her for the position.

Since she has spent many years as a very effective government executive (mayor, governor), and is a candidate for an executive position, she is therefore FAR more qualified than The Messiah.

Period.

(Then again, Obama is a black and a Democrat. I guess that’s really all that is required*, eh?)

* Then again, if one’s politics consists only of taxing the hell out of everybody or every institution that doesn’t support you directly, or that can’t defend themselves, then handing the money back to your consituents in any old way you can get away with, then really, what’s to know?

Saul Alinsky** would be pleased. Really, REALLY pleased.

** For Robert Hurley: Saul Alinsky is the Messiah’s Messiah. He wrote ‘Rules for Radicals’ in 1971, and Obama has been using Alinsky’s playbook from Day One. I’m sure you’ve heard of him (Alinsky).

(By the way, you need to stop reading Adorno and Marcuse. I mean, golly, can anybody be so insulated as to think those two idiots are intriguing. How gauche — and absolutely yesteryear, in a leftover-baby-boomer-with-blinders-on, wannabe intellectual kinda way).

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:08 am 19. Dark Helmet:

left wing screwballs will find fault no matter what. What they really want is just someone who wears the tinfoil 9/11 was an inside job hat while sipping the koolaide of being abducted by anal fixated aliens at the helm.

They spend more time going to ‘energy fixers’ than reading and thinking.

We have had top posts filled by people who happen to be women, happen to be black happen to be real people. Don’t look for the kooks to embrace anyone that isn’t willing to carry a bottel of human waste to a convention.

I am certain that interefing with natural selection has damaged our gene pool.

Thankfully, Palin comes from the deep end, not off it.

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:17 am 20. Marina:

REAL POLLS:

Joe Biden has adressed Jews: “please, believe Obama, trust him like I do, please, please, please” (I’ve found the story in the Jerusalem Post, http://www.jpost.com). It means the REAL POLLS say Obama looses Jews.

Hillary said she’ll never vote for McCain – Palin. Actually she was saying: “please, don’t vote for her, please!” It means the REAL POLLS say dems loose so called Hillary supporters.

Obama had an “outdoor session” in Newark, where he desperately tried to persuade the blue collars to vote for him. That was really pathetic (you can find the video on http://www.foxnews.com). That’s what the REAL POLLS tell us about “Joe Biden had won the blue collars for Obama” stuff.

OBAMA HAS GIVEN AN INTERVIEW TO O’REILY!!!! Who could imagine THIS? Remember how the dems were angry with both, Obama and Hillary for intending to go to Fox: “Don’t dare! We boycott Fox! Fox is not objective enough!” Now it’s his first big interview after the “historic” speech. Incredible! I’ve watched the first part of the interview on http://www.foxnews.com (the rest will come later). The guy is scary, and I don’t mean O’Reily. But how desperate his campaign has to be? And they have REAL POLLS, not what the MSM try to sell to us.

Obama is a moose. Go Sarah!

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:23 am 21. Marina:

to Chicago:

Western European MSM were not only as evil as the US ones, they were even worse, because they could just lie knowing nobody will prove the info. Visit their sites. Some of them still continue the smear, others start to understand that McCain really can become the President, so now they are playing “objective guys”, pathetically, btw. As far as I know Canadian MSM do exactly the same. The French ones are the worst, just disgusting.

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:38 am 22. jay:

schnargley, SHE DOESN’T EVEN LIKE TO WEAR FLAG PINS. I think that was from the NYT’s.

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:39 am 23. Jack Okie:

Schnargley, if you keep on posting I’m going to pop a gusset laughing. You are NOT a nice person to so endanger my coffee, keyboard and ribs.

Sep 5, 2008 - 10:01 am 24. Robert Hurley:

Aureliano:

I doubt if you have read Marcuse. You talent seems to rest heavily on slander rather than logic

Sep 5, 2008 - 10:37 am 25. Boris:

“From what I hear from the PUMAs, they’re going to fight to the death to elect McCain, in gratitude for him choosing such a formidable, accomplished, skilled predator with a record of leaving sexist men huddled on the floor in tears.”

This was quite funny. Nice!

BTW, only you guys are buying the whole “executive” experience thing. Just a tip.

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:08 am 26. Aureliano:

You talent seems to rest heavily on slander rather than logic

Yes, me talent rests clearly in the realm of the slanderously illogical and the grammatically and typographically period-challenged.

Clearly.

Then again, perhaps Derrida was correct and ‘logic’ can just be redefined to mean anything you want it to mean, e.g., one foolish enough to compare a presidential candidate with zero executive experience to a VICE-presidential candidate with effective executive experience (EEE), thinking this comparing and contrasting is somehow going to help said PRESIDENTIAL candidate.

You keep blindly bouncing down that trail, Scooter-bunny, you just go right ahead, then wait and see what happens in November. (Actually, just look and see what happened this week.)

I doubt if you have read Marcuse.

Yes, well, your powers of discernment aren’t even finely tuned enough wonder how I know you’ve read Adorno and Marcuse. I doubt you could spot genuine education and the kind of seriously robust skepticism that comes with having read nearly a thousand quality books if your life depended on it.

Thus your support of Obama, your belief he’s a kind of political Messiah, and your complete inability to understand that the sorts of infantile drive-by commando raids into conservative-friendly Web sites that we’ve seen since the end of the Dem convention are hugely ineffective.

Remember, your Marxist-derivative collectivist heroes wanted you to be EFFECTIVE, not just annoying ….

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:24 am 27. Wink:

Actually, it wasn’t that Joe Biden was found unworthy for the JOB by us Democrats, we just had a strong desire for another candidate (OBAMA). Conseratives should understand, being that just a few years ago they considered McCain unworthy for the JOB. How has he suddenly become fit to possibly become the next cammander in chief?

THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:26 am 28. Michael:

But everyone else is beginning to get the whole “never took a stand in the state or national legislature” thing and the “wasted $100,000,000 as a orginizer thing and the “never had executive responsibility thing”. Just a heads up.

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:28 am 29. FJ:

Obama’s Momma (the “typical white person”) gave birth to The Chosen One when she was 18.

Sep 5, 2008 - 1:00 pm 30. ic:

Beware of October surprises: the “indepedent” counsel’s report investigating Palin’s troopergate will be released on Oct 31, 2008.

Independent Counsel report is always damning Republicans, even if the independent counsel was Republican: Patrick Fitzgerald railroaded Libby when he couldn’t destroy Rove to earn brownie points from the left. And the California lawsuit a couple of cycles ago against Simmon (I forgot his first name, William?). He was found guilty just before election. After election, the verdict was thrown out by the judge because Simmon was the victim, not the perpetrator. In other words, the perpetrator accused Simmon of crimes he had committed against Simmon, and the jury found Simmon guilty.

Anyone who believes in God or whatever deities should start praying now that Alaska’s independent counsel is really independent. Then keep their fingers crossed.

It won’t matter after the election if Palin could prove the accusation was baseless.

Sep 5, 2008 - 1:04 pm 31. robotech master:

“Wink:

Actually, it wasn’t that Joe Biden was found unworthy for the JOB by us Democrats, we just had a strong desire for another candidate (OBAMA). Conseratives should understand, being that just a few years ago they considered McCain unworthy for the JOB. How has he suddenly become fit to possibly become the next cammander in chief?

THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Its a good point however your forgetting a few things… bush fought mccain and won… mccain came in 2nd… bush ran again in 2004 won… bush isn’t running again… mccain also finish 2nd with 31% of the pop vote(roughly 6 mil).

Biden ran and lose to obama… he didn’t come in 2nd… or 3rd… he basically didn’t get a place… he didn’t get 6 mil in votes… In 2004 biden didn’t even get 1 mil in votes and place only 3rd…

Thats a huge difference in votes… a person getting 6 mil votes vs someone who got a few hundred thousand… your argument is that they are somehow even… which isn’t true.

Sep 5, 2008 - 1:20 pm 32. Dave in Texas:

Palin has since revised and corrected that off-the-cuff comment about creationism. She does NOT insist that it be taught in schools. She only insists that there be no Stalinist-style repression of discussion of possibilities, so that if a chat starts on the topic in a classroom the teacher will not say “it is VERBOTEN to discuss this!”

And I, an evangelical who does not insist that it can be taught like a school subject, agree with her. The free exchange of ideas is vital to actual thought, and banning ideas is a terrible thing. Let the adherents of Darwinism explain how man came from apes, how the consistent and complete system of human morality (as alluded to in the Ten COmmandments) came to evolve from ape socialization. Let the children THINK and TALK about it.

Let the teacher explain why the ape does not ‘believe it’s morally wrong’ to steal, but the human does.

A cornered rat says to himself through instinct “I MUST SURVIVE” and fights.

A cornered human says in his heart “This is unjust! You don’t have the RIGHT!”

a black and white, clear as day difference that simply has no rational evolutionary process that anyone can believe in. There has never been a time in humanity when stealing was “sort of, vaguely, not too wrong” and then evolved to being always completely wrong. It has always been a basic moral tenet, back to Hammurabi’s code and beyond, that stealing is wrong.

Evolution simply does NOT account for this kind of consideration.

This is the kind of discussion Sarah Palin would like to hear in a classroom from time to time, and the left is determined to prevent it.

Sep 5, 2008 - 1:56 pm 33. Sandra M:

Tom W (great comment) said:

“I’ve now heard dozens of times that when Palin was trashing Obama, PUMA members say they were jumping up and down in their homes, screaming at the TV, in absolute flabbergasted wonder at this woman’s power, ease, style, grace, brains, and ability to speak and connect with the audience. Mostly, though, they love her mad assassin’s skillz.”

ROTFL. Ditto that.

This Reagan in skirts is another “Great Communicator” McGenius indeed to bring us this incredible superstar. Men love her. Women want to be like her.

She is the greatest woman rhetorician in decades. She is eminently quotable.

She would be a great Commander In Chief. And although I disagree with her on a couple of issues, big whup. Our American Margaret Thatcher is the leader we need to fight Pelosi, Reid, Boxer, et al on our current most critical domestic and foreign policy issue: ENERGY.

T. Boone Pickens has alerted us to the humongous transfer of wealth our dependency on foreign oil has occasioned. After 30 years of wrangling, Palin just signed the documents for the natural gas pipeline into the lower 48.

Sep 5, 2008 - 2:50 pm 34. Concerned Citizen:

Dave in Texas…

“The free exchange of ideas is vital to actual thought, and banning ideas is a terrible thing. Let the adherents of Darwinism explain how man came from apes, how the consistent and complete system of human morality (as alluded to in the Ten COmmandments) came to evolve from ape socialization. Let the children THINK and TALK about it.”

RIGHT ON!

Anyone who has studied the philosophy of science knows science is an imperfect way to view the world. The free discussion of ALL ideas is paramount to every classroom learning situation.

Science may be described as the art of systematic over-simplification. — Sir Karl Popper

All models are wrong, but some are often useful. — George Box

Sep 5, 2008 - 3:46 pm 35. Chuck Lyons:

I continue to be perplexed as to the ever polarizing black and white views of life, whether its to be in Iraq, free trade, or Creationism (Intelligent Design) vs Evolution.
I was the Christian long before I sat in the classroom reading Steven J Gould, listening, thinking, and reasoning about the points of both. I still believe that we come from a powerful Creator, but one who is also smart enough to not worry about some of the things we believe have to be attributed to a Creator. Man from ape? Not for my money. Creatures adapting to their environment? Sometimes.
For my money, Palin’s approach is right on target. Discussion between opposing views leaves open the possibility of new answers to old mysteries. Copernicus would certainly agree, I am sure, if Aristotle would have let him discuss it.

Sep 5, 2008 - 4:30 pm 36. avoidswork:

Wowza!

I find it hilarious that ‘ic’ above thinks Fitzgerald was trying to score points by “railroading Libby.” I don’t believe ‘ic’ has ever read about Fitzgerald’s history. He does not affiliate himself with any party, btw.

The “left” is not scared of Palin.

There is such adulation for her that it seems like the base is now mccain/PALIN. And even one of of the conservatives on powerline had this to say:
“So asks the Weekly Standard (with, I assume, at least a touch of irony) on the cover of its September 8 issue.

We conservatives have had a good time ridiculing the Obama phenomenon, especially its messianic feel — the willingness of its adherents to pour so much hope and belief into such an empty, or at least incomplete, vessel — and its elevation of “narrative” over substance.

It turns out that we were dying to have basically the same experience.”

As much as you allege the “left” is scared of Palin, ask yourselves this: Why is the McCain campaign being coy about whether there will be Palin interviews with the media?

This Sunday features Obama on “This Week”, McCain on “Face the Nation” and Biden on “Meet the Press”. And Palin on…?

And so we are all clear, the LEFT does not believe Obama is the Messiah, the One, the Chosen One, or even Neo, for that matter. We believe he is the candidate who best represents change and will bring the kind of people with him who represent change. I think we can all agree that America is not on the “right track.” While we differ with what the “right track” is, we all are looking for a change and something different. Obama represents that to many of us.

McCain — not so much. I remember McCain 2000. This man now is not that man. Reform Washington? Who has been running the ship for the last 8 years? Who has been in control of Congress the last 12 out of 14 years?

Sep 5, 2008 - 5:16 pm 37. Evil Pundit:

The McCain campaign is being canny with Palin, measuring out access in line with their strategy.

They know the mainstream media are their enemies, and you don’t let your enemies dictate your tactics.

Keeping Palin back just makes her more valuable as a media commodity. They’ll release her for an interview when they can gain an advantage from it.

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:32 pm 38. Dark Helmet:

avoidswork,

( great name for a liberal by the way…) We’ve had a damn good man at the helm, he’s been surrounded by the lowest performing house & senate in USA history. 9% approval is inverted.

Your soros is who has picked both of the canidates, Palin just screwed things up for the Rome World Court plan. ( look it up since you don’t work )

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:42 pm 39. Typical White Person:

“Even Palin’s ethics scandal has a slightly interesting twist that someone like McCain probably found endearing: When was the last time you heard of a politician being investigated for trying to fire her own relatives?”
————————————

Excellent point!!!

Usually it is the governor trying to get the loser brother in law a gov’t job!!!

Sep 5, 2008 - 9:59 pm 40. Eric:

@avoidswork

“We believe he is the candidate who best represents change and will bring the kind of people with him who represent change.”

Changes to what exactly? The kind of “change” that he proposes is what has so many of us Conservatives terrified. He wants to create a national health care system that we have no CHOICE in whether or not we want to participate. We will be forced to pay for it. He wants to raise our taxes to transfer even more wealth from the productive to the unproductive without CHOICE. He wants to punish business by raising corporate income taxes. He wants to eliminate the cap on social security taxes. THIS is NOT change we can believe in. THIS is SOCIALISM.
If you Liberals want to voluntarily give more of your own money to the government there is a line on your 1040 for that purpose. You cannot force the rest of us to participate in your Marxist schemes.
The only CHOICE you Liberals believe in is the choice to abort the unborn, otherwise you want the government to make every other choice in all of our lives.
The government is not only not the solution to any of our problems, the government is becoming the enemy of freedom.

Sep 5, 2008 - 10:18 pm 41. Eric:

The “war against poverty” that the Liberals have been waging for over four decades now should be renamed the “war FOR poverty” since every thinking person knows that if you want more of something you subsidize it. And that is just what we have been doing with poverty through the countless programs available to the poor like Medicaid, WIC, SCHIP, welfare, Section 8 housing, free school breakfast and lunch programs, et al. Is it any wonder we can;t cure poverty? What disincentive is there for the poor to not reproduce and create more poor? We in the middle class actually have to consider things like the increased cost of housing, food, utilities, clothing, etc. when we consider growing our families. Not so the poor. We will NEVER eliminate poverty as long as we continue to make it easy to be poor by subsidizing it.
We need to move beyond compassion and do what’s right for the taxpayers. Do you allow your children to get away with things you know is wrong because you feel bad punishing them? No, you know that rules and limits are required for them to become responsible adults. The same applies to the poor. STOP subsidizing poverty.

Sep 5, 2008 - 10:25 pm 42. god:

Palin looks good because the people in this country think and act as they do in Banana Republics.

If you haven’t lived or studied the rest of the World, you may not understand what I said.

This may be the greatest country in the World, but with so many uneducated people, it’s fodder for the wolves . . .

Sep 5, 2008 - 10:37 pm 43. Red Blooded American:

The Palin love-fest orgy continues. So when to we get to hear her answer some questions? It might be a good idea to hear her unscripted answers to at least a few questions before installing her as V.P. Or maybe all that executive experience she has makes this unnecessary, since she has shown what she can do and been subjected to rigorous scrutiny. No need to see how she thinks on her feet. In fact, she’s been so heavily scrutinized already, that If the media would just lay off, then she could finally get her message out. It’s all the media’s fault. Let’s chant in unison: It’s all the media’s fault. It’s all the media’s fault. It’s all the media’s fault. It’s all the media’s fault.

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:12 pm 44. Rachel Peepers:

In high school, Mr. Robert Koch taught us BSCS Biology; that natural selection plus mutations equaled evolution. He taught it as a theory.

Although I’m a practicing Catholic, I never had trouble with the theory.

If the left thinks this theory (Darwinism) is based more on science than Creationism, I’m fine with that.

Maybe Creationism is more appropriately taught in a religion class, which, by the way, is only offered at some colleges.

By the same token, though, if the left wants Darwinism taught in science class because it has a scientific basis, then I want taught in science or health class that life begins at conception. Because that is based on science.

Why won’t left wingers agree to this compromise? Because they’re intellectually as dishonest as Democrats who are arguing that Sarah Palin can’t be both a career woman and a mother.

I wouldn’t mind Democrats near as much if they weren’t so blasted hypocritical.

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:12 pm 45. Rachel Peepers:

Tom W.

Sorry, everybody for taking up more space, but I just wanted to say that I loved the flow of Tom’s writing.
Regards,
Rachel

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:15 pm 46. Evil Pundit:

And here comes a false “god” to defend the false Messiah.

America will be fodder for the wolves only if it elects a bleating lamb like Obama to lead it.

Sep 5, 2008 - 11:17 pm 47. Ed Wallis:

Hey, “RedBloodedAmi,”

So, ya wanna hear THE GLASSES “answer questions,” do ya?! (I’m trying my best “Chicago Gangster voice” on you, hoping you’ll understand better…)

We’ve ALL JUST LOVED the impromptu idiocies of the PRESIDENTIAL candidate, Zerobama (have teleprompter, will travel).

Just you wait, kid, just wait and see….

Hey, PEEPS, wanna slap this mug around a bit? heh

Sep 6, 2008 - 2:32 am 48. Javelin:

Ed Wallis,
good to see that you are still able to parrot back the usual talking points, slogans and put downs you gleaned from talk radio and blogs. For a second, I thought you might have actually come up with something original.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:20 am 49. Javelin:

Evil Pundit, who is the false god and false messiah? And whivh country is going to take us over and pen us up like livestock, Venezuela, Iran? Thats right, mix up some crackpot theology with a lame, pointless version of the Red hordes riding in from the steppes to enslave us all.

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:23 am 50. BizzyBlog » Palin Punditry You Won’t See in the Papers or on the TV News:

[...] here’s Tom W’s comment (fourth one down at Michael Weiss’s Pajamas Media post): The PUMAs are starting to love Palin because every single adult woman has stories of being [...]

Sep 6, 2008 - 7:32 am 51. Calanda-Technology.Com » Blog Archive » Palin Punditry and Prose You Won’t See in the Papers or on the TV News:

[...] here’s Tom W’s comment (fourth one down at Michael Weiss’s Pajamas Media post): The PUMAs are starting to love Palin because every single adult woman has stories of being [...]

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:45 am 52. Ed Wallis:

Javelin,

“…the usual talking points.” HEY! I know where I’ve heard THAT ONE:

“Round up the usual suspects!” My favorite movie, man!

By your wisecracks, one can only assume you support all the errors which Zerobama has voiced.

You tedious FRAUD.

Sep 6, 2008 - 8:51 am 53. NixGuy.com » Women and Palin:

[...] W at Pajamas Media via Bizzyblog: From what I hear from the PUMAs, they’re going to fight to the death to elect [...]

Sep 6, 2008 - 9:04 am 54. BobNC:

I’ve not seen it mentioned, but one thing that Palin brings to the table is the fact that she erases the risk from Bob Barr. Many of us are not that happy with McCain (although, compared to the current party hacks Hussein and Biden, there is little choice) and may have thought about a vote for a third party (remember, Perot not Clinton beat the first President Bush) and Barr was about the best alternative. With Palin on the ticket, Barr doesn’t look so good. No, if you want hope and change for America, you’ve got to vote McCain/Palin.

Sep 6, 2008 - 10:33 am 55. iamse7en:

Test.

Sep 6, 2008 - 11:13 am 56. Dark Helmet:

javelin tooth pick you are a complete and utter moron who parrots a right wing talking point from radio blah blah blah.

You might get an original thought if you took a bath with a plugged in toaster. At least you’d be out of our misery.

Sep 6, 2008 - 6:40 pm 57. Jeff:

Enough rhetoric with playing the “executive” card already, people. Let’s define executive in a much more clearer sense – one who agrees with most of Bush’s failed policies or one who disagrees with most of Bush’s failed policies?

Sep 7, 2008 - 7:15 pm 58. god:

Evil Pundit 9/05 11:17 pm:

If you knew how to reference your comments, people would understand what you are saying.

You sound like fodder for the wolves . . .

Sep 7, 2008 - 9:35 pm 59. Jeff:

I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat but a true Independent who believes in facts and really believes in learning the lessons of our history.

So here is a simple fact for America -
1) During Ronald Reagan’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1981-1989, we were at our economic best in a quarter of a century. We made the right choice in these 8 years as a country.
2) During George H. W. Bush Sr.’s Presidency of 1 term, between 1989-1993, we were at our economic worst in a quarter of a century. We made a huge mistake as a country but corrected it by keeping him in office for only 1 term.
3) During Bill Clinton’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 1993-2001, we were again at our economic best in a quarter of a century, even better than Reagan’s era. We made the right choice again in these 8 years as a country, despite his personal scandals.
4) Now, during George W. Bush Jr.’s Presidency of 2 terms, between 2001-this coming January 20, 2009; we have been at our economic worst in a quarter of a century, even worst than Bush Sr.’s era. We really made a huge mistake as a country on this one by not realizing that the apple really doesn’t fall very far from the tree. Yet we chose this apple again the second time around.

Now, really let this simple fact sink in America and take your time to think carefully this time around about how you want the direction of this country to go.

We made history with Reagan. We then made a mistake with Bush Sr. but corrected history by allowing him to only serve 1 term. We then made history again with Clinton, despite his personal scandals. Now, we have made 2 mistakes with Bush Jr. by allowing him to serve not once, but twice. So my last question to America is, guess which candidate shares the interests of both, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr.? I will let America answer this one. We are much, much smarter as a country to want to make history rather than make mistakes and to suffer yet again from our own mistakes by not using objectivity as our first and foremost agenda.

Sep 7, 2008 - 10:26 pm 60. PatricktheRogue:

I find the rush to support Gov Palin by so many on the right as the height of irresponsibility. It should be the right, the responsible right, not the loony, religious nut right, but the stable, steady Kames Baker right who are asking who Sarah Palin is and what she will do in office. If we could have the reincarnation of Jeane Kirkpatrick running for VP, I would be on board. But, let Sarah Palin go on a Firing Line-type debate (don’t you miss those?) where she could display all the skills she supposedly possesses up against some of the best debaters of the day. Better than that, let her go on BBC’s HardTalk and give a performance that silences all opposition. I am not saying she couldn’t do it, I just don’t know. Maybe other folks on this comoment line have never been sent to war, but I have, and I like those on the top to at least have a clue about what they are doing.
PTR

Sep 8, 2008 - 12:14 am 61. Ed Wallis:

“Jeff”,

Your argumentatuion about “the economy” in the context of each President is woefully simplistic, ignorant AND WRONG.

CONSIDER that “an economy” takes sometimes YEARS to reflect an Executive/Legislative Branch activity. Maybe external events/forces create more rapid responses, but…

Keep to the simple stuff, child.

and PLEASE, STOP PRETENDING to be “an independent.”

You are next to an, if not a genuine, O’bot.

Sep 8, 2008 - 3:25 pm 62. Jeff:

Ed Wallis,

I have seen all of your so-called broken sentences and paragraphs within all of these posts. While I put out all the facts, you have tried to debunk each and every one without a single fact of your own to contest each one of mine. Please stick to the basics, pops, and let America look at the facts because we cannot afford another 4 more years of catastrophe. By the way, did you have your reading glasses on?

Sep 8, 2008 - 7:57 pm 63. god:

Jeff 9/08 7:57 pm:

Don’t worry about Ed Wallis. He loves his blogging hobby and doesn’t have time to think straight. He writes funny stuff with his wild imagination. Like, he doesn’t believe there are Independents. He’s pretty representative about how hard core Republicans think. One of the realities about American people . . .

Sep 9, 2008 - 3:33 am 64. Ed Wallis:

YES, oh…yesssss – “NOTgod” and “O’bot Jeffie”:

just like THE CROWD in that Monty Python film “Life of Brian,” both of you, and your “associates”

T H I N K – F O R – Y O U R S E L V E S
T H I N K – F O R – Y O U R S E L V E S
T H I N K – F O R – Y O U R S E L V E S

Thanks for the morning jocularity!

Sep 9, 2008 - 5:05 am 65. mappy:

Our Joe Biden may have a big mouth, but we women love it! Go Joe Go! He may insert his foot once in a while but at least he talks with the media! How long can the trojan moose go on like this?!
As a woman of 2008 I find Palin disgusting. Her example is to have ALL of us women stay barefoot and pregnant. She kills wild life in front of her own kids and she drags her down syndrom infant around the country.
She disgusts me and millions of other REAL women. Palin is in drag…….. And, be careful she may be pregnant again by November – -

Sep 9, 2008 - 4:01 pm 66. Daniel:

The Palin pick was brilliant because it harnesses in all of the retarded people out there, which are Republican voters.
Give me a break… the Republicans are the New Roman Empire… incestuous activities will get you thinking their way. They seriously believe that the only way to overcome EVIL is to have constant and continuous warfare against innocent civilians. I hate Republicans.

Sep 9, 2008 - 4:50 pm 67. Sharon Evans:

I think everyone is missing the point. Gov. Palin was Governor of about 100,000 people and most of them are eskimos who really don”t get involved in politics. What we are talikg about is the Presidencey because Sen. MCcain is 72 years old and it seem to me that his judgement has not been up to par. If this man die within the next 4 years she will be President. I do not think she has enough Excutive experience to run a country of 300,000 people. I am surprised at the American women, I gave them more credit than they deserve. Were they supporting Sen Clinton because of what she beleived in or because she is a woman? Sen. Clinton has done so many wonderful things in the political world and Palin can not hold a candle to her. Her speech proved that. And what she stand for on the issues is against what most American women believe. I am stumped.

Sep 9, 2008 - 6:31 pm 68. Art Michaelsdon:

Come on give me a break. What executive experience. The BARACCUDA acquired “executive” experience by being the Mayor of a town with 9000 people and Governor of a state with about 600,000 people (about the size of Cincinnati, Ohio. The State of ALASKA is awash in oil money with low unemployment (except for natives). No State Income Tax. Each citizen, regardless of age gets about $3000 dollars a year from State oil royalties. Has the highest per capita $ award from congressional EAR MARKS. I can go on and on. No God Bless America. Hopefully God SAVE America.

Sep 9, 2008 - 6:56 pm 69. Dark Helmet:

You frickin libs are toast

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:35 pm 70. Pat:

Whose nursing Trig; given the mammary measurements of Palin vs pregnant daughter?

And why did Palin keep her pregnancy a secret so long?

Who really is Trig’s mother?

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:39 pm 71. Pat:

Five months out of pregnancy vs five months into pregnancy; the pictures look off??

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:41 pm 72. Pat:

What’s wrong with the family pictures?

Sep 9, 2008 - 7:42 pm 73. Ashley:

The two individuals who are running for President is Obama and McCain, not Palin and Biden. If his own party is more in love with Palin, then that’s telling. It’s telling that the Republicans prefer a woman with less experience over McCain. McCain should step down and listen to his country. After all “Country First.”

The section of Palin was not “Country First”. It is dirty Bush/McCain politics.

Remember, Obama versus McCain for President.

Sep 9, 2008 - 8:34 pm 74. Charlie:

Hey
Sara Palin supports Obama’s energy plan! Pretty kewl hey!

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:wbCGTUeD1r0J:www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php%3Fid%3D1384+http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php%3Fid%3D1384&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Sep 9, 2008 - 8:49 pm 75. Gina:

Obama’s lip stick / pig remark … and, Biden’s unsavory children with special needs remarks show us what a couple of creeps these two candidates are. In lieu of Sarah Palin’s comment about hockey moms, pit bulls and lip stick, Obama’s lip stick/ pig remark was extremely demeaning. Even though I am not an Obama supporter, at least I thought he had some degree of class and sophistication. He can try to cover his tracks by saying that the lip stick remark was not directed towards Governor Palin, but anyone with half a brain knows that’s exactly what he meant. I think Obama knows his campaign is in real trouble, and that’s why he’s stooping to such desperate, insulting and distasteful attacks. Obama is definitely not Presidential material.

Sep 9, 2008 - 9:57 pm 76. mar:

is the lipstick lady presidential material? – smirks all the time!.

why is anerdom cooper and company wasting time with such nonsense. you ought to have the candidates talk of issues that affect the commoners, not those who are rich ie. > 5 million per Mr. Mc Same.

Sep 9, 2008 - 10:59 pm 77. Clay:

Yeah, I agree, Palin obviously is a good pick for McCain because he’s boring, but both are horrible choices for our country if not for any other reason than being registered with the party that’s nearly succeeded in selling out America to communist China, extreme middle easterners and consolidating our most precious security resource in some pride-filled attempt to concoct one positive outcome that pales in comparison to the overall catastrophic blunder that is the Iraq war.

Sep 10, 2008 - 12:00 pm 78. Mario L.:

To Gina: If you’ve been watching the news lately, you’ll note that Obama’s lipstick remark was not purposely offending Palin herself but rather the current GOP governmental system in force.

Senator McCain made the same remark towards Hillary Clinton a few months ago as well as a number of Republican AND Democratic politicians.
“Putting lipstick on a pig” is a common political reference.
Obama made the mistake in not being clear about to whom the lipstick remark was made to.

I think you intend to sensationalize this one event, for the pure purpose of supporting your own cause, what ever it may be.

But know this. There’s a fine line between truth and lies. We must discern with a good heart the things we know and the things we’ve seen. We’re no longer safe to stick to the same ideas. Please search deeper.

Sep 13, 2008 - 9:43 am 79. Sarah:

A few weeks later seems the Palin pick wasn’t so smart after all. He should drop her, and admit he’s clueless. No, he should keep her and admit he’s clueless. Ha Ha Ha!

Sep 30, 2008 - 5:46 am

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