Comments on: Will Hezbollah — Backed By Iran — Open a Second Front Against Israel? http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:25:23 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: starkey http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-185491 starkey Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:14:54 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-185491 Peter the Sub Guy - The above post is unworthy of you, Sub Guy. It is simply cut and pasted, word for word, from one of scores of pro-Zionist, pro-Israel websites on the internet. Hardly the ACCEPTABLE, OBJECTIVE stuff you insist on elsewhere. It's interesting to see that you chose to leave out the last two paragraphs, i.e., the one that says that all the people who lived in the land, Jews, Arabs and Christians, were called Palestinians, and the other one that talks about the 600,000 Arabs who fled after 1948. It's also interesting that the article ends there, and doesn't go into the orgy of bloodshed entered into by the Israelis after they got their State, going from Arab village to Arab village slaughtering everyone they found, which was the reason why the other Arabs fled. Not a word about Irgun, Lehi, Haganah, Palmach. I notice that the killing of Arabs before 1948 by these same Zionist terrorist groups is ignored altogether. Incidentally, the number of Palestinians displaced was 750,000, not the 600,000 erroneously(??) stated in the article. On 4th December 1948 The New York Times published a letter dated 2nd December 1948 which was signed by Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook, Rabbi Jessurun Cardozo and other prominent Jews, in which they detail their objections to the visit by Menachem Begin to the US "to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin's political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents." The letter goes on to describe the massacre at Deir Yassin thus: "A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants - 240 men, women, and children - and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin." This was only one of many, many similar massacres at other Arab villages. It is worth reading the letter in its entirety here: http://antiisgood.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/albert-einstein-letter-new-york-times-december-4-1948/ It is ridiculous to keep maintaining that there were no Arabs on the land and that when the Zionists came there was nothing and nobody there, etc. There is ample proof to the contrary. Even Alan Dershowitz says in The Case for Israel that removal of Arabs "certainly seems to have been the policy of the Irgun". The clue to your posted article lies here: "... the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem ... boldly declared that the Arabs had been living in the Land for 10,000 years. Based on conservative Bible chronology, that means the Arabs have been living in the Land before the Almighty created Adam and Eve." So now we know, Peter the Sub Guy, you are a Young Earth Creationist, who believes the earth is only 6000 years old. Peter the Sub Guy – The above post is unworthy of you, Sub Guy. It is simply cut and pasted,
word for word, from one of scores of pro-Zionist, pro-Israel websites on the internet. Hardly the ACCEPTABLE, OBJECTIVE stuff you insist on elsewhere.

It’s interesting to see that you chose to leave out the last two paragraphs, i.e., the one that says that all the people who lived in the land, Jews, Arabs and Christians, were called Palestinians, and the other one that talks about the 600,000 Arabs who fled after 1948.

It’s also interesting that the article ends there, and doesn’t go into the orgy of bloodshed entered into by the Israelis after they got their State, going from Arab village to Arab village slaughtering everyone they found, which was the reason why the other Arabs fled. Not a word about Irgun, Lehi, Haganah, Palmach.

I notice that the killing of Arabs before 1948 by these same Zionist terrorist groups is ignored altogether. Incidentally, the number of Palestinians displaced was 750,000, not the 600,000 erroneously(??) stated in the article.

On 4th December 1948 The New York Times published a letter dated 2nd December 1948 which was signed by Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein, Sidney Hook, Rabbi Jessurun Cardozo and other prominent Jews, in which they detail their objections to the visit by Menachem Begin to the US “to cement political ties with conservative Zionist elements in the United States. Several Americans of national repute have lent their names to welcome his visit. It is inconceivable that those who oppose fascism throughout the world, if correctly informed as to Mr. Begin’s political record and perspectives, could add their names and support to the movement he represents.”

The letter goes on to describe the massacre at Deir Yassin thus:

“A shocking example was their behavior in the Arab village of Deir Yassin. This village, off the main roads and surrounded by Jewish lands, had taken no part in the war, and had even fought off Arab bands who wanted to use the village as their base. On April 9 (THE NEW YORK TIMES), terrorist bands attacked this peaceful village, which was not a military objective in the fighting, killed most of its inhabitants – 240 men, women, and children – and kept a few of them alive to parade as captives through the streets of Jerusalem. Most of the Jewish community was horrified at the deed, and the Jewish Agency sent a telegram of apology to King Abdullah of Trans-Jordan. But the terrorists, far from being ashamed of their act, were proud of this massacre, publicized it widely, and invited all the foreign correspondents present in the country to view the heaped corpses and the general havoc at Deir Yassin.”

This was only one of many, many similar massacres at other Arab villages.

It is worth reading the letter in its entirety here:

http://antiisgood.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/albert-einstein-letter-new-york-times-december-4-1948/

It is ridiculous to keep maintaining that there were no Arabs on the land and that when the Zionists came there was nothing and nobody there, etc. There is ample proof to the contrary. Even Alan Dershowitz says in The Case for Israel that removal of Arabs “certainly seems to have been the policy of the Irgun”.

The clue to your posted article lies here:

“… the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem … boldly declared that the Arabs had been living in the Land for 10,000 years. Based on conservative Bible chronology, that means the Arabs have been living in the Land before the Almighty created Adam and Eve.”

So now we know, Peter the Sub Guy, you are a Young Earth Creationist, who believes the earth is only 6000 years old.

]]> By: Peter the Sub Guy http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-184100 Peter the Sub Guy Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:03:25 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-184100 Here starkey, is the perfect explaination for what happened in history. Many thanks to cmsent: The “myth” of a Palestinian people or indigenous Palestine: In an article entitled, “The Lesson of Palestine,” printed in the Middle East Journal, October 1949, Arab activist, Musa Alami, wrote, “how can people struggle for their nation, when most of them do not know the meaning of the word? … The people are in great need of a “myth” of imagination. The myth of nationality would create “identity” and “self-respect.” The Arab world has certainly demonstrated great skill in the “myth” of imagination. They have done such a good job that they have convinced much of the world that their “myths” are facts. Perhaps their biggest myth is the myth of Palestine. The Arab world would have us believe that the Palestinians have been in “Palestine” from “time immemorial” but were displaced by the Jews when Israel became a state in 1948. But what are the facts? While we are not certain of the exact dates, Joshua conquered the Land God promised the Jews in the 13th century BCE. King David established Jerusalem as the capital of Israel around 1000 BCE. King Solomon built the Jewish Temple about 960 BCE. This was almost 1000 years before the beginning of Christianity and 1600 years before the rise of Islam. As Prime Minister Barak has noted, “When Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate the feasts, he didn’t come to a church or a mosque, he came to the Temple.” It is not the Church Mount or the Mosque Mount that is fought over, it is the Temple Mount. It was the Temple Mount centuries before Christianity tried to make it the Church Mount and Islam tried to make it the Mosque Mount. However, not to be confused with facts, in a personal audience I had several years ago with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who was appointed by Arafat, he boldly declared that the Arabs had been living in the Land for 10,000 years. Based on conservative Bible chronology, that means the Arabs have been living in the Land before the Almighty created Adam and Eve. How did Israel become Palestine and who are the Palestinians? The second Jewish war with the Romans took place in 132-135 CE. Led by Rabbi Akiva and Simon bar Kochba, the Jewish uprising was crushed by the Roman Emperor Hadrian who sought to de-Judaize Jerusalem and make it a pagan city. Hadrian renamed Jerusalem “Aelia Capitolina” in honor of Jupiter. He changed the name of Judea and gave it the name of the Jews ancient enemy, the Philistines. He called it — Palestine. Over time, Palestine was ruled by the Roman Byzantines (312-637) [Persian interrupt 614-629], Omayyad Arabs (638-750), Islamic Abbassid’s (750-1099), Crusaders (1099-1291) [Saladin the Kurd interrupt 1187-93], Mamluks (1291-1516), Ottoman Turks (1517-1917), and the British Mandate (1917-1948). None of these rulers established a sovereign state in the Land and Jerusalem was never the capital of any empire since the time of King David. Palestine was a forgotten desolate, wasteland, but historical records show there was always a Jewish presence in the Land. The revival of modern Jewish life in the Land began in the 1880’s with the arrival of Russian refugees from the Russian pogroms. A second wave of immigration, also from Russia, was in 1905. This was followed by later immigrations resulting in a growing Jewish population in the Land. When the Jews came to the Land, they found a malaria infested swamp in the north and an uninhabitable desert in the south. It was as if the God of the Bible had kept the Land hidden away in obscurity until the rightful owners — the Jews returned to claim it. The Jewish pioneers did not steal the Land from the Arabs. They purchased the Land at highly inflated prices from absentee landlords living outside the Land. As the Jews worked the Land, it began to prosper. While there were Jews and Arabs living in the Land, there were many poor migrant Arab farm workers in the surrounding Arab countries who needed work. When they heard that the Land was prospering under the hand of the Jews, they migrated to Palestine to get work from the Jews. Furthermore, the British allowed many thousands of Arabs into Palestine illegally while barring the Jews from entering the Land. For the most part, the Arab Palestinians are these peasant farm workers and illegal aliens. “Palestinians” have never been a distinct people, they have never had a sovereign land called Palestine, Jerusalem has never been their capital, there is no Palestinian language or culture, and there is no Palestinian people. It is a myth created after the Jews liberated Jerusalem in 1967. Before the birth of the State of Israel, Arab leaders themselves denied the existence of an Arab country called Palestine. In 1937, Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi said, “There is no such country [as Palestine]! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. ‘Palestine” is alien to us; it is the Zionists who introduced it.” In 1946, a distinguished Princeton professor and Arab historian said, “There is no such thing as Palestine in Arab history, absolutely not.” Here starkey, is the perfect explaination for what happened in history.
Many thanks to cmsent:

The “myth” of a Palestinian people or indigenous Palestine:

In an article entitled, “The Lesson of Palestine,” printed in the Middle East Journal, October 1949, Arab activist, Musa Alami, wrote, “how can people struggle for their nation, when most of them do not know the meaning of the word? … The people are in great need of a “myth” of imagination. The myth of nationality would create “identity” and “self-respect.”

The Arab world has certainly demonstrated great skill in the “myth” of imagination. They have done such a good job that they have convinced much of the world that their “myths” are facts. Perhaps their biggest myth is the myth of Palestine. The Arab world would have us believe that the Palestinians have been in “Palestine” from “time immemorial” but were displaced by the Jews when Israel became a state in 1948. But what are the facts?

While we are not certain of the exact dates, Joshua conquered the Land God promised the Jews in the 13th century BCE. King David established Jerusalem as the capital of Israel around 1000 BCE. King Solomon built the Jewish Temple about 960 BCE. This was almost 1000 years before the beginning of Christianity and 1600 years before the rise of Islam. As Prime Minister Barak has noted, “When Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate the feasts, he didn’t come to a church or a mosque, he came to the Temple.” It is not the Church Mount or the Mosque Mount that is fought over, it is the Temple Mount. It was the Temple Mount centuries before Christianity tried to make it the Church Mount and Islam tried to make it the Mosque Mount.

However, not to be confused with facts, in a personal audience I had several years ago with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, who was appointed by Arafat, he boldly declared that the Arabs had been living in the Land for 10,000 years. Based on conservative Bible chronology, that means the Arabs have been living in the Land before the Almighty created Adam and Eve.

How did Israel become Palestine and who are the Palestinians? The second Jewish war with the Romans took place in 132-135 CE. Led by Rabbi Akiva and Simon bar Kochba, the Jewish uprising was crushed by the Roman Emperor Hadrian who sought to de-Judaize Jerusalem and make it a pagan city. Hadrian renamed Jerusalem “Aelia Capitolina” in honor of Jupiter. He changed the name of Judea and gave it the name of the Jews ancient enemy, the Philistines. He called it — Palestine.

Over time, Palestine was ruled by the Roman Byzantines (312-637) [Persian interrupt 614-629], Omayyad Arabs (638-750), Islamic Abbassid’s (750-1099), Crusaders (1099-1291) [Saladin the Kurd interrupt 1187-93], Mamluks (1291-1516), Ottoman Turks (1517-1917), and the British Mandate (1917-1948). None of these rulers established a sovereign state in the Land and Jerusalem was never the capital of any empire since the time of King David. Palestine was a forgotten desolate, wasteland, but historical records show there was always a Jewish presence in the Land.

The revival of modern Jewish life in the Land began in the 1880’s with the arrival of Russian refugees from the Russian pogroms. A second wave of immigration, also from Russia, was in 1905. This was followed by later immigrations resulting in a growing Jewish population in the Land. When the Jews came to the Land, they found a malaria infested swamp in the north and an uninhabitable desert in the south. It was as if the God of the Bible had kept the Land hidden away in obscurity until the rightful owners — the Jews returned to claim it.

The Jewish pioneers did not steal the Land from the Arabs. They purchased the Land at highly inflated prices from absentee landlords living outside the Land. As the Jews worked the Land, it began to prosper. While there were Jews and Arabs living in the Land, there were many poor migrant Arab farm workers in the surrounding Arab countries who needed work. When they heard that the Land was prospering under the hand of the Jews, they migrated to Palestine to get work from the Jews. Furthermore, the British allowed many thousands of Arabs into Palestine illegally while barring the Jews from entering the Land. For the most part, the Arab Palestinians are these peasant farm workers and illegal aliens.

“Palestinians” have never been a distinct people, they have never had a sovereign land called Palestine, Jerusalem has never been their capital, there is no Palestinian language or culture, and there is no Palestinian people. It is a myth created after the Jews liberated Jerusalem in 1967.

Before the birth of the State of Israel, Arab leaders themselves denied the existence of an Arab country called Palestine. In 1937, Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi said, “There is no such country [as Palestine]! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. ‘Palestine” is alien to us; it is the Zionists who introduced it.” In 1946, a distinguished Princeton professor and Arab historian said, “There is no such thing as Palestine in Arab history, absolutely not.”

]]> By: Peter the Sub Guy http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-183912 Peter the Sub Guy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:34:26 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-183912 41. starkey wrote: It’s a case of “we were here first, it’s not our fault if someone stronger came along and forced us to run for our lives Peter responds: You missed the point entirely. Just like a lot of the lefty leaners, you seem to believe the Arabs walked into this strech of land and it was barren of people and they said "Hey, this looks like a great place to settle down." Not quite. While the Arabs forced their way into the region, the jews never entirely left. What gives them any less right to it than the poor Arabs that now cry "Boo hoo, they drove us off the land we shouldn't have had in the first place"? 41. starkey wrote:
It’s a case of “we were here first, it’s not our fault if someone stronger came along and forced us to run for our lives

Peter responds: You missed the point entirely. Just like a lot of the lefty leaners, you seem to believe the Arabs walked into this strech of land and it was barren of people and they said “Hey, this looks like a great place to settle down.”

Not quite. While the Arabs forced their way into the region, the jews never entirely left.

What gives them any less right to it than the poor Arabs that now cry “Boo hoo, they drove us off the land we shouldn’t have had in the first place”?

]]> By: starkey http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-183825 starkey Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:07:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-183825 Peter the Sub Guy - Oh, I understand now. It's a case of "we were here first, it's not our fault if someone stronger came along and forced us to run for our lives, but now we want it all back because we've bought ourselves some mighty powerful friends." Who owned America 3500 years ago? And Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland? Better hope none of them ever get any powerful friends, eh? Peter the Sub Guy – Oh, I understand now. It’s a case of “we were here first, it’s not our fault if someone stronger came along and forced us to run for our lives, but now we want it all back because we’ve bought ourselves some mighty powerful friends.”

Who owned America 3500 years ago? And Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland? Better hope none of them ever get any powerful friends, eh?

]]> By: Peter the Sub Guy http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-183415 Peter the Sub Guy Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:53:17 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-183415 39. starkey wrote: Why didn’t they just bravely stay where they were? Peter writes: Well, gee, if you had a bunch of bloodthirsty barbarians invading your land and threatening to behead everyone who doesn't convert, then I think you might run too. 39. starkey wrote:
Why didn’t they just bravely stay where they were?

Peter writes: Well, gee, if you had a bunch of bloodthirsty barbarians invading your land and threatening to behead everyone who doesn’t convert, then I think you might run too.

]]> By: starkey http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-183288 starkey Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:20:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-183288 Hi Peter - In that case, why did anyone bother with Balfour Declaration, UNR181, etc., etc.? Why didn't they just bravely stay where they were? Hi Peter – In that case, why did anyone bother with Balfour Declaration, UNR181, etc., etc.? Why didn’t they just bravely stay where they were?

]]> By: Peter the Sub Guy http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-183101 Peter the Sub Guy Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:20:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-183101 37. starkey wrote: This link will put it all into perspective - it shows the consistent land-grabbing by the poor peace-loving Israelis. Peter responds: Please explain, starkey, how someone can grab what was already theirs? The jews were in what is now Israel 3500 years before the Arabs. 37. starkey wrote:
This link will put it all into perspective – it shows the consistent land-grabbing by the poor peace-loving Israelis.

Peter responds: Please explain, starkey, how someone can grab what was already theirs? The jews were in what is now Israel 3500 years before the Arabs.

]]> By: starkey http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-182940 starkey Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:17:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-182940 This link will put it all into perspective - it shows the consistent land-grabbing by the poor peace-loving Israelis. If your land was grabbed like this while the grabbers told the world you were fighting them for no good reason, I'd like to see your reaction. http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2009/01/the-shrinking-map-of-palestine.html This link will put it all into perspective – it shows the consistent land-grabbing by the poor peace-loving Israelis. If your land was grabbed like this while the grabbers told the world you were fighting them for no good reason, I’d like to see your reaction.

http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2009/01/the-shrinking-map-of-palestine.html

]]> By: starkey http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-182092 starkey Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:29:47 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-182092 DonJoe - That's all well and good, but Zionists don't believe in Jesus Christ, so I can't see the relevance of pointing to anything in the New Testament. What does Dean C. Halverson have to say about the God of the Talmud? Anything? It would be more useful to produce a Compact Guide to Zionist Writings and Aspirations, that might throw a spanner in the works once and for all. DonJoe – That’s all well and good, but Zionists don’t believe in Jesus Christ, so I can’t see the relevance of pointing to anything in the New Testament.

What does Dean C. Halverson have to say about the God of the Talmud? Anything? It would be more useful to produce a Compact Guide to Zionist Writings and Aspirations, that might throw a spanner in the works once and for all.

]]> By: DonJoe http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/will-hezbollah-backed-by-iran-open-a-second-front-against-israel/comment-page-1/#comment-181749 DonJoe Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:24:41 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=43646#comment-181749 Similarities between the God of the Quran and the God of the Bible * Both are One * Both are transcendent Creators of the universe * Both are sovereign * Both are omnipotent * Both have spoken to humanity through messengers or prophets, through angels, and through the written word * Both know in intimate detail the thoughts and deeds of men * Both will judge the wicked Differences between the God of the Quran and the God of the Bible * The God of the Quran is a singular unity; but the God of the Bible is a compound unity who is one in essence and three in persons (Matthew 28:19; John 10:30; Acts 5:3-4) * The God of the Quran is not a father, and he has begotten no sons (Surahs 19:88-92; 112:3); but the God of the Bible is a tri-unity who has eternally existed as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19; Luke 3:21-22; John 5:18). * Through the Quran, God broke into history through a word that is written; but, through Jesus Christ, God broke into history through the Word who is a Person (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 1:15-20; Hebrews 1:2-3; 1 John 1:1-3; 4:9-10) * The God of the Quran “loves not the prodigals”(Surahs 6:142′7:31, Ali; ‘Ali has “wasters”); but Jesus tells the story of a father, a metaphor for God the Father, who longs for the return of his prodigal son (Luke 15:11-24) * “Allah loves not those who do wrong” (Surah 3:140, Ali), and neither does He love “him who is treacherous, sinful” (Surah 4:107, Ali); but “God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8) * “Allah desires to afflict them for their sins” (Surah 5:49, Ali; also see Surahs 4:168-169; 7:179; 9:2; 40:10); but the God of the Bible does not “take any pleasure in the death of the wicked” (Ezekiel 18:23) and is “not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9) * The standard for judgment for the God of the Quran is that our good deeds must outweigh our bad deeds (Surah 7:8-9; 21:47); but the standard of the God of the Bible is nothing less than perfection as measured by the holy character of God (Matthew 5:48; Romans 3:23) * The God of the Quran provided a messenger, Muhammad, who warned of Allah’s impending judgment (Surahs 2:119; 5:19; 7:184, 188; 15:89-90) and who declared that “No bearer of a burden can bear the burden of another” (Surahs 17:15; 35:18, Ali); but the God of the Bible provided a sinless Savior, Jesus, who took our sins upon himself and bore God’s wrath in our stead (Matthew 20:28; 26:28; Luke 22:37; John 3:16; 10:9-11; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Galatians 3:13, 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10) - Source: Dean C. Halverson, The Compact Guide to World Religions. Bethany House Publishers, Minneapolis, Minnesota, 1996, pages 110-111 Similarities between the God of the Quran and the God of the Bible
* Both are One
* Both are transcendent Creators of the universe
* Both are sovereign
* Both are omnipotent
* Both have spoken to humanity through messengers or prophets, through angels, and through the written word
* Both know in intimate detail the thoughts and deeds of men
* Both will judge the wicked

Differences between the God of the Quran and the God of the Bible

* The God of the Quran is a singular unity; but the God of the Bible is a compound unity who is one in essence and three in persons (Matthew 28:19; John 10:30; Acts 5:3-4)

* The God of the Quran is not a father, and he has begotten no sons (Surahs 19:88-92; 112:3); but the God of the Bible is a tri-unity who has eternally existed as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19; Luke 3:21-22; John 5:18).

* Through the Quran, God broke into history through a word that is written; but, through Jesus Christ, God broke into history through the Word who is a Person (John 1:1, 14; Colossians 1:15-20; Hebrews 1:2-3; 1 John 1:1-3; 4:9-10)

* The God of the Quran “loves not the prodigals”(Surahs 6:142′7:31, Ali; ‘Ali has “wasters”); but Jesus tells the story of a father, a metaphor for God the Father, who longs for the return of his prodigal son (Luke 15:11-24)

* “Allah loves not those who do wrong” (Surah 3:140, Ali), and neither does He love “him who is treacherous, sinful” (Surah 4:107, Ali); but “God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8)

* “Allah desires to afflict them for their sins” (Surah 5:49, Ali; also see Surahs 4:168-169; 7:179; 9:2; 40:10); but the God of the Bible does not “take any pleasure in the death of the wicked” (Ezekiel 18:23) and is “not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9)

* The standard for judgment for the God of the Quran is that our good deeds must outweigh our bad deeds (Surah 7:8-9; 21:47); but the standard of the God of the Bible is nothing less than perfection as measured by the holy character of God (Matthew 5:48; Romans 3:23)

* The God of the Quran provided a messenger, Muhammad, who warned of Allah’s impending judgment (Surahs 2:119; 5:19; 7:184, 188; 15:89-90) and who declared that “No bearer of a burden can bear the burden of another” (Surahs 17:15; 35:18, Ali); but the God of the Bible provided a sinless Savior, Jesus, who took our sins upon himself and bore God’s wrath in our stead (Matthew 20:28; 26:28; Luke 22:37; John 3:16; 10:9-11; 2 Corinthians 5:21; Galatians 3:13, 1 Thessalonians 5:9-10)

– Source: Dean C. Halverson, The Compact Guide to World Religions. Bethany House Publishers, Minneapolis, Minnesota, 1996, pages 110-111

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