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		<title>By: The Obama We Knew But Denied &#171; Thoughts Of A Conservative Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Obama We Knew But Denied &#171; Thoughts Of A Conservative Christian</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] the coal industry would be the natural and desired result of his environmental policies, that his Global Poverty Act would bring &#8220;collective redemption&#8221; to an America presiding over an unfair world and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kenavo</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle-Anne!

I just read your latest two articles on the American Thinker site: You should get a medal!

Beautifully written and on message!</description>
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<p>I just read your latest two articles on the American Thinker site: You should get a medal!</p>
<p>Beautifully written and on message!</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media » Seven States That Will Decide the Election</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media » Seven States That Will Decide the Election</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Latinos (not only Cuban-Americans) are realizing what Senator Obama is about,&#8221; Rivera notes. &#8220;Obama has stated on several occasions that he would meet with leaders [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rachel Peepers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Peepers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kyle Ann Shiver has questions about a brown eyed handsome man who many believe is destined to lead us to the promised land. And quench our thirst for electoral justice.

After reading her article, though, my knee jerk support for a Barackian Presidency is falling almost as fast as fast as John Edwards pants when alone with Ms. Hunter.

The more I read and think about it, the less and less of a taste I have for a United States where the government redistributes the fruits of America&#039;s labors; where a &quot;We know what&#039;s best for you&quot;, government plays babysitter to its citizens; where the U.S.is no longer the arsenal of democracy, but, rather the scrap heap of idiocy with a patty cake military; where the cure for our country&#039;s sense of independence, enterprise, entrepreneurship and manifest destiny is a generous helping of socialized medicine followed by a chaser of creeping, whining socialized citizen.   

An admittedly ardent, outspoken Obama supporter, I’m starting to feel some real doubt creep into my strong, sometimes bellicose support for the Senator who hails  from Indonesia that is the real deal. 

Granted, as my father says, he’ll send capital gains taxes, even taxes on private home sales through the roof. He’s pledged to decimate the armed forces and surrender in Iraq as the way to refill the national Bush-drained coffers. And scrap the nuclear defense shield just when it’s becoming operational. But none of those things are enough to cause me to completely turn away from Obama.

And I’m not going south on Barack because of the fact that his religious adviser and mentor, the Reverend Wright, Sunday after Sunday, berated the United States, while spewing anti-white, anti-female, anti-Hillary rhetoric like a venomous machine gun mowing down the enemy.

And it doesn’t really bug me that he’s stonewalling the investigation into his admittedly Islamic religious upbringing. Or that, as the article by the gifted and talented Jennifer Rubin so eloquently states, Barack is treating gay marriage and the abortion issue like they’re the new third rails of politics.

Or that his campaign is reported to be in the initial stages of enacting into law a comprehensive program to give “sizable” reparations to direct descendants ( or those willing to sign an affidavit that they’re of African descent)of slaves.

No, none of these issues in themselves loosens forever the lynch pin that holds together my loyalty to Barack and the beautiful Michelle.

The truth be known, I have a problem with his VP pick. Frankly, I wanted him to pick Hillary for VP. Hillary, who’s intelligent, experienced and knowledgeable beyond belief. Hillary who received more popular votes than Barack, and has pledged her support for middle America blue collar values, a strong economy, and especially, women’s rights.

Instead, Barack is picking John Kerry who is documented to have lied when running for President like a drunker sailor. Who never spent (”seared into me like a branding iron”) Christmas in Cambodia, never threw his medals over onto the White House lawn as he publicly stated, never was sorry for causing POW’s to be beaten as a result of his claims before congress that the U.S. military was “cutting off heads, butchering children, raping the Vietnamese countryside and torturing innocent civilians.”

John Kerry’s VP selection is why my support for the, Democratic-primary-voter-anointed Barack Obama and beautiful first lady, Michelle, is ever so slowly starting to waver; like a stale cookie, beginning to crumble, like a –oh forget the metaphors, Barack is starting to make me feel queasy. I mean, I can no longer say with 99% certainty that Barack’s candidacy passes the smell test.

Let’s face it, you and I both know his conversion to Christianity was a Chicago political charade. The guy disavowed his Indonesian Muslim upbringing, called the woman who raised him a “typical” white woman, said he could no more disavow his relationship with Reverend Wright than he could disavow his cultural and religious upbringing; the both of which he later did.

I’m rambling now, I know, but look, he sat in church at Trinity for twenty years listening to Wright’s hate-America-First speech. Then said he didn’t remember hearing it, then said he did. Then said Reverend Wright “wasn’t the man I knew.”

Well, I’m thinking Barack Obama isn’t the man that we, rabid Obama supporters, thought all summer was the one right for the biggest job in the world.

I’m starting to think the only kind of change Barack can be counted on to deliver on is the one involving his mind.

I’m starting to believe that the man we fawned and fainted over during breathtaking speeches was in the final result a product of smoke and mirrors.

If you ask me, Barack Obama is on a collision course with a veritable freight train whose cars are filled with duty, honor and country.

John McCain.

A true American hero. And when they collide in November, I’m afraid Barack’s election hopes are going to be knocked silly. Americans everywhere are going to rise up and wise up. And realize for darn sure that Barack Obama is, was and always will be, as they say in the fight game in Chitown, just another wannabe; simply a little man with big designs who folks finally saw for what he is.

Just another bum from the neighborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle Ann Shiver has questions about a brown eyed handsome man who many believe is destined to lead us to the promised land. And quench our thirst for electoral justice.</p>
<p>After reading her article, though, my knee jerk support for a Barackian Presidency is falling almost as fast as fast as John Edwards pants when alone with Ms. Hunter.</p>
<p>The more I read and think about it, the less and less of a taste I have for a United States where the government redistributes the fruits of America&#8217;s labors; where a &#8220;We know what&#8217;s best for you&#8221;, government plays babysitter to its citizens; where the U.S.is no longer the arsenal of democracy, but, rather the scrap heap of idiocy with a patty cake military; where the cure for our country&#8217;s sense of independence, enterprise, entrepreneurship and manifest destiny is a generous helping of socialized medicine followed by a chaser of creeping, whining socialized citizen.   </p>
<p>An admittedly ardent, outspoken Obama supporter, I’m starting to feel some real doubt creep into my strong, sometimes bellicose support for the Senator who hails  from Indonesia that is the real deal. </p>
<p>Granted, as my father says, he’ll send capital gains taxes, even taxes on private home sales through the roof. He’s pledged to decimate the armed forces and surrender in Iraq as the way to refill the national Bush-drained coffers. And scrap the nuclear defense shield just when it’s becoming operational. But none of those things are enough to cause me to completely turn away from Obama.</p>
<p>And I’m not going south on Barack because of the fact that his religious adviser and mentor, the Reverend Wright, Sunday after Sunday, berated the United States, while spewing anti-white, anti-female, anti-Hillary rhetoric like a venomous machine gun mowing down the enemy.</p>
<p>And it doesn’t really bug me that he’s stonewalling the investigation into his admittedly Islamic religious upbringing. Or that, as the article by the gifted and talented Jennifer Rubin so eloquently states, Barack is treating gay marriage and the abortion issue like they’re the new third rails of politics.</p>
<p>Or that his campaign is reported to be in the initial stages of enacting into law a comprehensive program to give “sizable” reparations to direct descendants ( or those willing to sign an affidavit that they’re of African descent)of slaves.</p>
<p>No, none of these issues in themselves loosens forever the lynch pin that holds together my loyalty to Barack and the beautiful Michelle.</p>
<p>The truth be known, I have a problem with his VP pick. Frankly, I wanted him to pick Hillary for VP. Hillary, who’s intelligent, experienced and knowledgeable beyond belief. Hillary who received more popular votes than Barack, and has pledged her support for middle America blue collar values, a strong economy, and especially, women’s rights.</p>
<p>Instead, Barack is picking John Kerry who is documented to have lied when running for President like a drunker sailor. Who never spent (”seared into me like a branding iron”) Christmas in Cambodia, never threw his medals over onto the White House lawn as he publicly stated, never was sorry for causing POW’s to be beaten as a result of his claims before congress that the U.S. military was “cutting off heads, butchering children, raping the Vietnamese countryside and torturing innocent civilians.”</p>
<p>John Kerry’s VP selection is why my support for the, Democratic-primary-voter-anointed Barack Obama and beautiful first lady, Michelle, is ever so slowly starting to waver; like a stale cookie, beginning to crumble, like a –oh forget the metaphors, Barack is starting to make me feel queasy. I mean, I can no longer say with 99% certainty that Barack’s candidacy passes the smell test.</p>
<p>Let’s face it, you and I both know his conversion to Christianity was a Chicago political charade. The guy disavowed his Indonesian Muslim upbringing, called the woman who raised him a “typical” white woman, said he could no more disavow his relationship with Reverend Wright than he could disavow his cultural and religious upbringing; the both of which he later did.</p>
<p>I’m rambling now, I know, but look, he sat in church at Trinity for twenty years listening to Wright’s hate-America-First speech. Then said he didn’t remember hearing it, then said he did. Then said Reverend Wright “wasn’t the man I knew.”</p>
<p>Well, I’m thinking Barack Obama isn’t the man that we, rabid Obama supporters, thought all summer was the one right for the biggest job in the world.</p>
<p>I’m starting to think the only kind of change Barack can be counted on to deliver on is the one involving his mind.</p>
<p>I’m starting to believe that the man we fawned and fainted over during breathtaking speeches was in the final result a product of smoke and mirrors.</p>
<p>If you ask me, Barack Obama is on a collision course with a veritable freight train whose cars are filled with duty, honor and country.</p>
<p>John McCain.</p>
<p>A true American hero. And when they collide in November, I’m afraid Barack’s election hopes are going to be knocked silly. Americans everywhere are going to rise up and wise up. And realize for darn sure that Barack Obama is, was and always will be, as they say in the fight game in Chitown, just another wannabe; simply a little man with big designs who folks finally saw for what he is.</p>
<p>Just another bum from the neighborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: ProgMeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProgMeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;I have presented some facts, PM. The GPA (S.2433) is not a bipartisan act. Its only Republican sponsors are traiterous RINOs: Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel, Richard Lugar and Gordon Smith&lt;/b&gt;

They&#039;re Republicans ... when you don&#039;t like a fact like this, you call them RINOs. BUT more importantly, you continue to ignore the substance of the bill:  the only thing it does is require a strategy for meeting the goals of previous legislation passed by Republican congresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I have presented some facts, PM. The GPA (S.2433) is not a bipartisan act. Its only Republican sponsors are traiterous RINOs: Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel, Richard Lugar and Gordon Smith</b></p>
<p>They&#8217;re Republicans &#8230; when you don&#8217;t like a fact like this, you call them RINOs. BUT more importantly, you continue to ignore the substance of the bill:  the only thing it does is require a strategy for meeting the goals of previous legislation passed by Republican congresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Zbigniew Mazurak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zbigniew Mazurak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have presented some facts, PM. The GPA (S.2433) is not a bipartisan act. Its only Republican sponsors are traiterous RINOs: Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel, Richard Lugar and Gordon Smith. Proof:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2433

You are owned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have presented some facts, PM. The GPA (S.2433) is not a bipartisan act. Its only Republican sponsors are traiterous RINOs: Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel, Richard Lugar and Gordon Smith. Proof:<br />
<a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2433" rel="nofollow">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2433</a></p>
<p>You are owned.</p>
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		<title>By: Javelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 05:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup Jay, Bush was great. We are at war with Muslim fundamentalist jihadists so we ally with Saudis, Pakis and even Sudanese and attack the one non Muslim power in the Middle East, which also served as a counterweight to Iran.
Oh yeah, good idea for Token and Cowboy to pump ou the Georgians for some militray assistance and advice. Now, we have another bear on our hands. With political morons like you and him, Kucinich could do better. You and your ilk are as stupid as you are dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup Jay, Bush was great. We are at war with Muslim fundamentalist jihadists so we ally with Saudis, Pakis and even Sudanese and attack the one non Muslim power in the Middle East, which also served as a counterweight to Iran.<br />
Oh yeah, good idea for Token and Cowboy to pump ou the Georgians for some militray assistance and advice. Now, we have another bear on our hands. With political morons like you and him, Kucinich could do better. You and your ilk are as stupid as you are dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: ProgMeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProgMeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Z:

&lt;b&gt;You have presented no facts. The GPA is NOT a bipartisan act&lt;/b&gt;

You&#039;re just a blathering denialist jerking with me; go read the bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z:</p>
<p><b>You have presented no facts. The GPA is NOT a bipartisan act</b></p>
<p>You&#8217;re just a blathering denialist jerking with me; go read the bill</p>
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		<title>By: Zbigniew Mazurak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zbigniew Mazurak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PM:
You have presented no facts. The GPA is NOT a bipartisan act. The only Republicans to sponsor it were traiterous RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) such as Chuck Hagel, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. No real conservative has sponsored that Act.
Nana-J: Kyle-Anne&#039;s surname is Shiver, not Shriver. Shriver is the surname of Schwarzenkennnedy&#039;s wife. Kyle-Anne&#039;s surname is Shiver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PM:<br />
You have presented no facts. The GPA is NOT a bipartisan act. The only Republicans to sponsor it were traiterous RINOs (Republicans In Name Only) such as Chuck Hagel, Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe. No real conservative has sponsored that Act.<br />
Nana-J: Kyle-Anne&#8217;s surname is Shiver, not Shriver. Shriver is the surname of Schwarzenkennnedy&#8217;s wife. Kyle-Anne&#8217;s surname is Shiver.</p>
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		<title>By: ProgMeister</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProgMeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zbigniew:

You clearly have NOT read the bill, nor do you know anything about the legislation it refers to; if you did, you&#039;d shut up about &quot;Communist liars&quot; .. so let&#039;s give you, AND Kyle-Anne, a little education.  The essential mandate (such as it is) is expressed in Section 4(c)(1) as follows:

(c) Components- The strategy required by subsection (a) should include the following components:

(1) Continued investment or involvement in existing United States initiatives related to international poverty reduction, such as the United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003 (22 U.S.C. 7601 et seq.), the Millennium Challenge Act of 2003 (22 U.S.C. 7701 et seq.), and trade preference programs for developing countries, such as the African Growth and Opportunity Act (19 U.S.C. 3701 et seq.).

So where did these enumerated initiatives come from?  Here&#039;s where, one by one:

(1) African Growth and Opportunity Act (a Republican Congress, led by Speaker Gingrich, Majority Leader Lott)

(2) United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003  (a Republican Congress, led by Speaker Hastert, Majority Leader Frist)

(3) Millennium Challenge Act of 2003 (a Republican Congress, led by Speaker Hastert, Majority Leader Frist)

So, if you don&#039;t like all this &quot;furrin aid,&quot; now you know who to blame.  I&#039;ll leave it to your superior research and analytic skills to figure out WHY all of these bills, and the Global Poverty Act, were REALLY passed.  The answers might surprise you.

AND it remains a fact that the Global Poverty Act, a bipartisan bill, DOES NOT authorize the expenditure of one penny out of the United States budget.

There is NO language in the bill which &quot;talks about the US being obliged to achieve the UN’s goal of spending at least 0.7% of GDP on foreign aid.&quot;  Your problem, and Shiver&#039;s, is that you don&#039;t study source material ... you continue to rely on &quot;interpretations&quot; (and I use that term generously here) you find with Google.  Your interest is in spin and not policy.

Unfortunately, the facts don&#039;t support your spin and, as usual, Shiver&#039;s article is nothing but pure BS.  I have no idea why Pajamas Media is willing to publish ANY of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zbigniew:</p>
<p>You clearly have NOT read the bill, nor do you know anything about the legislation it refers to; if you did, you&#8217;d shut up about &#8220;Communist liars&#8221; .. so let&#8217;s give you, AND Kyle-Anne, a little education.  The essential mandate (such as it is) is expressed in Section 4(c)(1) as follows:</p>
<p>(c) Components- The strategy required by subsection (a) should include the following components:</p>
<p>(1) Continued investment or involvement in existing United States initiatives related to international poverty reduction, such as the United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003 (22 U.S.C. 7601 et seq.), the Millennium Challenge Act of 2003 (22 U.S.C. 7701 et seq.), and trade preference programs for developing countries, such as the African Growth and Opportunity Act (19 U.S.C. 3701 et seq.).</p>
<p>So where did these enumerated initiatives come from?  Here&#8217;s where, one by one:</p>
<p>(1) African Growth and Opportunity Act (a Republican Congress, led by Speaker Gingrich, Majority Leader Lott)</p>
<p>(2) United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003  (a Republican Congress, led by Speaker Hastert, Majority Leader Frist)</p>
<p>(3) Millennium Challenge Act of 2003 (a Republican Congress, led by Speaker Hastert, Majority Leader Frist)</p>
<p>So, if you don&#8217;t like all this &#8220;furrin aid,&#8221; now you know who to blame.  I&#8217;ll leave it to your superior research and analytic skills to figure out WHY all of these bills, and the Global Poverty Act, were REALLY passed.  The answers might surprise you.</p>
<p>AND it remains a fact that the Global Poverty Act, a bipartisan bill, DOES NOT authorize the expenditure of one penny out of the United States budget.</p>
<p>There is NO language in the bill which &#8220;talks about the US being obliged to achieve the UN’s goal of spending at least 0.7% of GDP on foreign aid.&#8221;  Your problem, and Shiver&#8217;s, is that you don&#8217;t study source material &#8230; you continue to rely on &#8220;interpretations&#8221; (and I use that term generously here) you find with Google.  Your interest is in spin and not policy.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the facts don&#8217;t support your spin and, as usual, Shiver&#8217;s article is nothing but pure BS.  I have no idea why Pajamas Media is willing to publish ANY of it.</p>
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