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		<title>By: seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exercised not to vote?  Are you naive?

Young Democratic Socialists and Young Communist League and socialist professors in the universities and colleges have long trained the Young People, especially the Generation Y, of voting to the Democratic Party, the home of all the socialist and communist third parties.

Harrington of CPUSA has long foreseen this and is now the modern prophet of Socialist America.

You see the brainwashing there?

Check out the principles of Communism and Socialism in the websites of Communist Party of USA and Democratic Socialist of America and you will find out why they are really targeting &quot;Generation Y&quot; of today.

- anti war; war is evil.  CODEPINK and MoveOn. Reasons why many Democrats are winning.
- pro-poor; militancy of the poor against the rich; class war.   ACORN, all UN-NGOs in New York fighting poverty at the expense of America;  see Obama&#039;s Poverty Act.
- equality of gender, race, sexual orientation; militancy of gays/lesbian, black radicalism, arab radicalism, and women&#039;s lib.  Civil rights,  Rainbow/ Push, Women&#039;s reproductive rights (aka abortion rights), AAAN, all black progressive groups.
- profit parity to workers;  labor militancy.   AFL-CIO (will be endorsing Obama for the Nth time)
- anti capitalism; corporate profits is evil.  Obama&#039;s hitting oil companies (without checking investment).  Forgetting that America&#039;s corporations are hurting - see Stock Market. 
- Community Organising. Why they are succeeding.
- Freedom of/from Religion.  They would opt for &quot;no religion&quot;.  But some are still religious and racist,  would go for &quot;of religion&quot; for the mean time.

How can you therefore say NO and argue to this people.   Sadly, they missed the following ingredients:
- Patriotism.   See CODEPINK accusing the entire marines as murderers.
- Love of Country.   They call it narcissistic; because they are blinded by the idea of one global government that will restore peace and address terrorism.  DNC Howard Dean hosting a feast of socialists in Washington in 2006 saying its only about &quot;progressive parties&quot; but the center of invitees was the Party of European Socialists, member of Communists International?

100% COMMUNISTS AND SOCIALISTS ARE SUPPORTING OBAMA.  THAT&#039;S A FACT.


Democratic party of JFK is long dead.  Republican Party is dying.

By November, Obama&#039;s win would be the 100% victory, a major milestone... the birth of Socialist America.  

Welcome to the new Generation Y of America. 

In the end, JFK and Reagan failed.  Check out California now authorising Communist Party to be registered... their justification?  Communism is dead after Cold War... What the heck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exercised not to vote?  Are you naive?</p>
<p>Young Democratic Socialists and Young Communist League and socialist professors in the universities and colleges have long trained the Young People, especially the Generation Y, of voting to the Democratic Party, the home of all the socialist and communist third parties.</p>
<p>Harrington of CPUSA has long foreseen this and is now the modern prophet of Socialist America.</p>
<p>You see the brainwashing there?</p>
<p>Check out the principles of Communism and Socialism in the websites of Communist Party of USA and Democratic Socialist of America and you will find out why they are really targeting &#8220;Generation Y&#8221; of today.</p>
<p>- anti war; war is evil.  CODEPINK and MoveOn. Reasons why many Democrats are winning.<br />
- pro-poor; militancy of the poor against the rich; class war.   ACORN, all UN-NGOs in New York fighting poverty at the expense of America;  see Obama&#8217;s Poverty Act.<br />
- equality of gender, race, sexual orientation; militancy of gays/lesbian, black radicalism, arab radicalism, and women&#8217;s lib.  Civil rights,  Rainbow/ Push, Women&#8217;s reproductive rights (aka abortion rights), AAAN, all black progressive groups.<br />
- profit parity to workers;  labor militancy.   AFL-CIO (will be endorsing Obama for the Nth time)<br />
- anti capitalism; corporate profits is evil.  Obama&#8217;s hitting oil companies (without checking investment).  Forgetting that America&#8217;s corporations are hurting &#8211; see Stock Market.<br />
- Community Organising. Why they are succeeding.<br />
- Freedom of/from Religion.  They would opt for &#8220;no religion&#8221;.  But some are still religious and racist,  would go for &#8220;of religion&#8221; for the mean time.</p>
<p>How can you therefore say NO and argue to this people.   Sadly, they missed the following ingredients:<br />
- Patriotism.   See CODEPINK accusing the entire marines as murderers.<br />
- Love of Country.   They call it narcissistic; because they are blinded by the idea of one global government that will restore peace and address terrorism.  DNC Howard Dean hosting a feast of socialists in Washington in 2006 saying its only about &#8220;progressive parties&#8221; but the center of invitees was the Party of European Socialists, member of Communists International?</p>
<p>100% COMMUNISTS AND SOCIALISTS ARE SUPPORTING OBAMA.  THAT&#8217;S A FACT.</p>
<p>Democratic party of JFK is long dead.  Republican Party is dying.</p>
<p>By November, Obama&#8217;s win would be the 100% victory, a major milestone&#8230; the birth of Socialist America.  </p>
<p>Welcome to the new Generation Y of America. </p>
<p>In the end, JFK and Reagan failed.  Check out California now authorising Communist Party to be registered&#8230; their justification?  Communism is dead after Cold War&#8230; What the heck?</p>
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		<title>By: Ragnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification: Education is wonderful, but most college students are restricted to  listening to left-wing academic arguments. They haven&#039;t had the opportunity to hear both sides of so many conflicts. 

The same goes for their adoration for whatever their favorite rock or movie star (usually lacking a college degree)has to say about very complex political events. 

I weary of having some silly 19 year-old quote what an equally silly 20-something actress has to say about world affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: Education is wonderful, but most college students are restricted to  listening to left-wing academic arguments. They haven&#8217;t had the opportunity to hear both sides of so many conflicts. </p>
<p>The same goes for their adoration for whatever their favorite rock or movie star (usually lacking a college degree)has to say about very complex political events. </p>
<p>I weary of having some silly 19 year-old quote what an equally silly 20-something actress has to say about world affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ragnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The under 21 crowd are easily manipulated by several factors. Their addiction to left-wing entertainment, their status as captive audiences of their teachers and professors, and their addiction to cliques on facebook and digg. 

The age group most influenced by their peer groups and the most naive. The list goes on-- this age is not ready to chose a president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The under 21 crowd are easily manipulated by several factors. Their addiction to left-wing entertainment, their status as captive audiences of their teachers and professors, and their addiction to cliques on facebook and digg. </p>
<p>The age group most influenced by their peer groups and the most naive. The list goes on&#8211; this age is not ready to chose a president.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of age, consider &quot;federal income tax paid.&quot;  The 40% of Americans who pay no federal income tax should not be allowed to keep voting for the fools who hand them everyone else&#039;s money--call it &quot;no pay, no say.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of age, consider &#8220;federal income tax paid.&#8221;  The 40% of Americans who pay no federal income tax should not be allowed to keep voting for the fools who hand them everyone else&#8217;s money&#8211;call it &#8220;no pay, no say.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To misanthropicus: sorry, but under no scenario, real or imagined, has &quot;Bush made the world a safer place&quot;. Not only have worldwide terrorism rates gone up, but the Taliban are back, bin Laden still out somewhere making threats, and Iran no longer has to be preoccupied with  Hussein. In the meanwhile, Americans have seen their privacy and liberties erode away with worthless crap like the Patriot Act and ever increasing domestic spying in general. Not to mention the joy brought by airport security checkpoints and visa restrictionst, especially in the context of our laughably porous borders.    And I&#039;m sure the latest news that the torture used by the US actually went a wee bit beyond waterboarding may perhaps give more than a little bit of aid and comfort to our enemies about the justness of their cause. 

As I said earlier, Gawd....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To misanthropicus: sorry, but under no scenario, real or imagined, has &#8220;Bush made the world a safer place&#8221;. Not only have worldwide terrorism rates gone up, but the Taliban are back, bin Laden still out somewhere making threats, and Iran no longer has to be preoccupied with  Hussein. In the meanwhile, Americans have seen their privacy and liberties erode away with worthless crap like the Patriot Act and ever increasing domestic spying in general. Not to mention the joy brought by airport security checkpoints and visa restrictionst, especially in the context of our laughably porous borders.    And I&#8217;m sure the latest news that the torture used by the US actually went a wee bit beyond waterboarding may perhaps give more than a little bit of aid and comfort to our enemies about the justness of their cause. </p>
<p>As I said earlier, Gawd&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: locomotivebreath (by God!) 1901</title>
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		<dc:creator>locomotivebreath (by God!) 1901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go, Burt! 

And thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go, Burt! </p>
<p>And thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Horatio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try this one on for size: Only honorably discharged military veterans should be able to vote. This is based upon the premise that if you&#039;re not prepared to put your life on the line for the nation-state of which you are a citizen, why should you have any say in how it&#039;s run?

A hat tip to the late great Robert A. Heinlein in his novel &quot;Starship Troopers&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this one on for size: Only honorably discharged military veterans should be able to vote. This is based upon the premise that if you&#8217;re not prepared to put your life on the line for the nation-state of which you are a citizen, why should you have any say in how it&#8217;s run?</p>
<p>A hat tip to the late great Robert A. Heinlein in his novel &#8220;Starship Troopers&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Javelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believer
maybe your patriotism would be better suited for a benevolent depsotism? I am glad that the average voter is too ignorant and shallow to understand your deep semantics. I have some laundry to be done and dishes to be washed, wanna come over and help after you disenfranchise yourself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believer<br />
maybe your patriotism would be better suited for a benevolent depsotism? I am glad that the average voter is too ignorant and shallow to understand your deep semantics. I have some laundry to be done and dishes to be washed, wanna come over and help after you disenfranchise yourself?</p>
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		<title>By: Believer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Believer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my favorite quote is:

&quot;The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.&quot;    Winston Churchill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my favorite quote is:</p>
<p>&#8220;The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.&#8221;    Winston Churchill</p>
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		<title>By: misanthropicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For: Boris, BC, Javelin &amp; Cie.
From: Oliver Kamm/guardian.co.uk/ 06-17-08
RE: Iraq War, Bush, etc. 

Bush made the world a safer place. We may jeer him and tell him to go home, but America&#039;s allies continue to benefit from some of George Bush&#039;s decisions
Jimmy Carter was cheered when he visited Newcastle with Jim Callaghan. Bill Clinton was lauded in Northern Ireland. But it is more usual, at least with more consequential holders of the office, for American presidents to be told by European demonstrators to go home. 

The postwar history of our continent would be different and less benign if the United States had heeded that message. His office, and the system of collective security from which we benefit, would be justification enough to welcome President Bush&#039;s visit to London this week. But there is an additional reason peculiar to the Bush presidency. For all Bush&#039;s verbal infelicity, diplomatic brusqueness, negligence in planning for post-Saddam Iraq, and insouciance regarding standards of due process when prosecuting the war on terror, the world is a safer place for the influence he has exercised.

When Bush ran for president in 2000 he was an isolationist advocate of scaling back America&#039;s overseas commitments. But after 9/11, he was right in not interpreting the attack as confirmation that America was stirring up trouble for itself. The theocratic barbarism responsible for the attack on the Twin Towers was driven not by what America and its allies had done, but by what we represented. In the words of Osama bin Laden, illegitimately appropriating for himself the mantel of Islam, &quot;every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate toward Americans, Jew, and Christians&quot;.

The most fundamental decision in western security policy in the past seven years has not been the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. It has been the recognition that the most voluble adversaries of western society are not merely a criminal subculture, and still less an incipient liberation movement. Rather, they are a reactionary, millenarian and atavistic force with whom accommodation is impossible as well as intensely undesirable. 

The grand strategy pursued by the US under Bush has overestimated the plasticity of the international order, but it has got one big thing right. There is an integral connection between the terrorism that targets western societies and the autocratic states in which Islamist fanaticism is incubated. Bush is culpable for much that went wrong after the overthrow of Saddam, but the outlook for Iraq has changed fundamentally owing to his decision to appoint General David Petraeus and pursue a confrontational strategy with al-Qaida in Iraq. 

Bush was wrong, in his 2002 state of the union speech, to speak of an &quot;axis of evil&quot; connecting Saddam, Iran and North Korea – not because he overstated these actors&#039; malevolence but because they were not a homogeneous threat. Two of them remain potent and unresolved problems. But little can be accomplished in restraining North Korea&#039;s bellicosity without the active support of China, and at least the Iranian regime has faced a united international front in constraining its nuclear ambitions. Whoever succeeds Bush as president will benefit from some decisions well conceived if often badly executed. So will America&#039;s allies.

Misanthropicus comment to Boris, BC, Javelin &amp; Cie.: QED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For: Boris, BC, Javelin &amp; Cie.<br />
From: Oliver Kamm/guardian.co.uk/ 06-17-08<br />
RE: Iraq War, Bush, etc. </p>
<p>Bush made the world a safer place. We may jeer him and tell him to go home, but America&#8217;s allies continue to benefit from some of George Bush&#8217;s decisions<br />
Jimmy Carter was cheered when he visited Newcastle with Jim Callaghan. Bill Clinton was lauded in Northern Ireland. But it is more usual, at least with more consequential holders of the office, for American presidents to be told by European demonstrators to go home. </p>
<p>The postwar history of our continent would be different and less benign if the United States had heeded that message. His office, and the system of collective security from which we benefit, would be justification enough to welcome President Bush&#8217;s visit to London this week. But there is an additional reason peculiar to the Bush presidency. For all Bush&#8217;s verbal infelicity, diplomatic brusqueness, negligence in planning for post-Saddam Iraq, and insouciance regarding standards of due process when prosecuting the war on terror, the world is a safer place for the influence he has exercised.</p>
<p>When Bush ran for president in 2000 he was an isolationist advocate of scaling back America&#8217;s overseas commitments. But after 9/11, he was right in not interpreting the attack as confirmation that America was stirring up trouble for itself. The theocratic barbarism responsible for the attack on the Twin Towers was driven not by what America and its allies had done, but by what we represented. In the words of Osama bin Laden, illegitimately appropriating for himself the mantel of Islam, &#8220;every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate toward Americans, Jew, and Christians&#8221;.</p>
<p>The most fundamental decision in western security policy in the past seven years has not been the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. It has been the recognition that the most voluble adversaries of western society are not merely a criminal subculture, and still less an incipient liberation movement. Rather, they are a reactionary, millenarian and atavistic force with whom accommodation is impossible as well as intensely undesirable. </p>
<p>The grand strategy pursued by the US under Bush has overestimated the plasticity of the international order, but it has got one big thing right. There is an integral connection between the terrorism that targets western societies and the autocratic states in which Islamist fanaticism is incubated. Bush is culpable for much that went wrong after the overthrow of Saddam, but the outlook for Iraq has changed fundamentally owing to his decision to appoint General David Petraeus and pursue a confrontational strategy with al-Qaida in Iraq. </p>
<p>Bush was wrong, in his 2002 state of the union speech, to speak of an &#8220;axis of evil&#8221; connecting Saddam, Iran and North Korea – not because he overstated these actors&#8217; malevolence but because they were not a homogeneous threat. Two of them remain potent and unresolved problems. But little can be accomplished in restraining North Korea&#8217;s bellicosity without the active support of China, and at least the Iranian regime has faced a united international front in constraining its nuclear ambitions. Whoever succeeds Bush as president will benefit from some decisions well conceived if often badly executed. So will America&#8217;s allies.</p>
<p>Misanthropicus comment to Boris, BC, Javelin &amp; Cie.: QED.</p>
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