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	<title>Comments on: Condi Rice Wants Us to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love Kim Jong Il</title>
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		<title>By: Jarrow L. Rogovin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrow L. Rogovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 09:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem has always been that South Korea has its capital and 25 million people an artillery round from the North Korean border.

Appeasement doesn&#039;t work.  Bombing Kim Jon Il could get millions annihilated.  Stinks, doesn&#039;t it?  

Seems the best alternative is to find a way to bump ill Il off -- and any replacement that acts like a nutcase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem has always been that South Korea has its capital and 25 million people an artillery round from the North Korean border.</p>
<p>Appeasement doesn&#8217;t work.  Bombing Kim Jon Il could get millions annihilated.  Stinks, doesn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>Seems the best alternative is to find a way to bump ill Il off &#8212; and any replacement that acts like a nutcase.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fed Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being in federal law enforcement for 27 years, including over 5 years on a Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), I&#039;ve seen a lot. 

The current posture toward North Korea is reminiscent of a recent conversation with a fellow JTTF member about the fairly recent venture to allow 19,000 Saudi Nationals into the U.S. on student VISA&#039;s.  After expressing my concern about that venture, the response was, &quot;We know all of their names and their addresses.&quot;  I felt compelled to visit the nearest &quot;water cooler&quot; down the street.

The same rationale appears to apply to Kim Jong Il by our Secretary of State: &quot;We know his name and his address.&quot;  Apparently, not much else I might add.  

Once again, I feel compelled to visit the nearest &quot;water cooler&quot; (or is it the nearest &quot;cooling tower&quot;?) down the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being in federal law enforcement for 27 years, including over 5 years on a Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), I&#8217;ve seen a lot. </p>
<p>The current posture toward North Korea is reminiscent of a recent conversation with a fellow JTTF member about the fairly recent venture to allow 19,000 Saudi Nationals into the U.S. on student VISA&#8217;s.  After expressing my concern about that venture, the response was, &#8220;We know all of their names and their addresses.&#8221;  I felt compelled to visit the nearest &#8220;water cooler&#8221; down the street.</p>
<p>The same rationale appears to apply to Kim Jong Il by our Secretary of State: &#8220;We know his name and his address.&#8221;  Apparently, not much else I might add.  </p>
<p>Once again, I feel compelled to visit the nearest &#8220;water cooler&#8221; (or is it the nearest &#8220;cooling tower&#8221;?) down the street.</p>
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		<title>By: OneFreeKorea &#187; George W. Bush: A Uniter at Last!</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneFreeKorea &#187; George W. Bush: A Uniter at Last!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Other commenters of various ideological orientations either lukewarm or hostile:  The lesson to date is that America, faced with nuclear blackmail, will bow down, dignify and fortify tyrants, fork over loot, and celebrate the process as a victory for diplomacy.  [Claudia Rosett] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Other commenters of various ideological orientations either lukewarm or hostile:  The lesson to date is that America, faced with nuclear blackmail, will bow down, dignify and fortify tyrants, fork over loot, and celebrate the process as a victory for diplomacy.  [Claudia Rosett] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Condi Rice Wants Us to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love Kim Jong Il&quot;

Sounds like &quot;assisted&quot; suicide to me!  But then, Secretary Rice and her colleagues have shown a rare talent for alternate reality diplomacy.  It&#039;s great, in delusional diplo-land, there are no consequences, no tyrants, no dead souls in prison camps, nobody bleeds.  Everyone just keeps pretending, and hoping &#039;if only&#039;, and talking, always talking.  Until, one way or another, reality starts killing people.  I hope Ms. Rice&#039;s diplo malpractice insurance is all paid up.  

She has turned into the cranky impresario of The State Department Follies, a musical touring company that has ongoing tours in virtually every country on the globe.  The most lavish SDF productions are to be found in the Near, Middle, Far, Inner, Outer, and Intergalactic East and West.  These lucky throngs who are the recipients of La Rice&#039;s professional wisdom will soon find their lives so miraculously transformed as to be unrecognizable.  Think smoking wreckage.  Think frozen craters on the far side of the Moon.  

But, hey!, Kim&#039;s no terrorist.  He&#039;s left all that behind.  Just a few deals with old friends.....it&#039;s nothing, really.  Uncle Kim doesn&#039;t mean us any harm; all like peas in a pod now.  He even said he was sorry.  Well, sort of....  Even going to blow up the Yongbyon thingy for us.  No more scams, no more lies, no more manipulation.  Well maybe just the occasional batch of Super-$100&#039;s, or just a little drug running, for exercise.  But the Kimster&#039;s a new man, transformed by his travails (President Sarkozy&#039;s Courvoisier blockade was crushing).  Chris Hill and lots of confidence building have given Kim a new perspective.  That $25 million from the Fed was a real incentive too.  It&#039;ll be different this time.  Kim&#039;s feelings were hurt before because we put him on that terrorist list; but that&#039;s all in the past, it doesn&#039;t matter.  We can trust him now.  Just ask the happy, fashionably slender populace of North Korea.  Besides, Condi says it&#039;s all fine.  Kim&#039;s just an endearing puppydog.  No nukes here!  No worries! 

Delusion is a strange thing, ever more exhausting to maintain, soul-killing to perpetuate, and always the crushing pressure, compacting and tearing consciousness apart at the same time.  Denying reality is hard work, for it means pushing against, contradicting the flow of reality, of nature.  And yet delusional thinking crops up here and there in history, an occasionally recurring affliction of the soul.  It flowered during the appeasementfest before World War II.  And here we are again.  Condi and the boys at State say everything is peachy.  They&#039;re not alone.  There are legions of people, the elites of the world, mostly, who also reject the reality staring them in the face, in favor of the illusory comforts of delusion.  We can yet pull ourselves out of this imbalanced state that we seek to impose on reality, rejoin the real world, and wield conscious influence on the tide of time.  We have free will, and we can choose to make this effort, or not.  In this last case, simple physics shows us that nature is a self-correcting system that will not entertain imbalance for long.  If we cling to our delusions about Kim, about Ahmadinejad, about Assad, about Fatah, etc., etc., nature will come and force reality upon us.  It will be harsh, and cruel, and deadly, but nature doesn&#039;t tally those features.  All it knows is balance, and imbalance.  It&#039;s not a reality adjustment we will like.  Delusional thinking and appeasement on such a massive scale will bring a harvest of war and suffering that is shattering to contemplate -- unless we change the storyline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Condi Rice Wants Us to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love Kim Jong Il&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like &#8220;assisted&#8221; suicide to me!  But then, Secretary Rice and her colleagues have shown a rare talent for alternate reality diplomacy.  It&#8217;s great, in delusional diplo-land, there are no consequences, no tyrants, no dead souls in prison camps, nobody bleeds.  Everyone just keeps pretending, and hoping &#8216;if only&#8217;, and talking, always talking.  Until, one way or another, reality starts killing people.  I hope Ms. Rice&#8217;s diplo malpractice insurance is all paid up.  </p>
<p>She has turned into the cranky impresario of The State Department Follies, a musical touring company that has ongoing tours in virtually every country on the globe.  The most lavish SDF productions are to be found in the Near, Middle, Far, Inner, Outer, and Intergalactic East and West.  These lucky throngs who are the recipients of La Rice&#8217;s professional wisdom will soon find their lives so miraculously transformed as to be unrecognizable.  Think smoking wreckage.  Think frozen craters on the far side of the Moon.  </p>
<p>But, hey!, Kim&#8217;s no terrorist.  He&#8217;s left all that behind.  Just a few deals with old friends&#8230;..it&#8217;s nothing, really.  Uncle Kim doesn&#8217;t mean us any harm; all like peas in a pod now.  He even said he was sorry.  Well, sort of&#8230;.  Even going to blow up the Yongbyon thingy for us.  No more scams, no more lies, no more manipulation.  Well maybe just the occasional batch of Super-$100&#8217;s, or just a little drug running, for exercise.  But the Kimster&#8217;s a new man, transformed by his travails (President Sarkozy&#8217;s Courvoisier blockade was crushing).  Chris Hill and lots of confidence building have given Kim a new perspective.  That $25 million from the Fed was a real incentive too.  It&#8217;ll be different this time.  Kim&#8217;s feelings were hurt before because we put him on that terrorist list; but that&#8217;s all in the past, it doesn&#8217;t matter.  We can trust him now.  Just ask the happy, fashionably slender populace of North Korea.  Besides, Condi says it&#8217;s all fine.  Kim&#8217;s just an endearing puppydog.  No nukes here!  No worries! </p>
<p>Delusion is a strange thing, ever more exhausting to maintain, soul-killing to perpetuate, and always the crushing pressure, compacting and tearing consciousness apart at the same time.  Denying reality is hard work, for it means pushing against, contradicting the flow of reality, of nature.  And yet delusional thinking crops up here and there in history, an occasionally recurring affliction of the soul.  It flowered during the appeasementfest before World War II.  And here we are again.  Condi and the boys at State say everything is peachy.  They&#8217;re not alone.  There are legions of people, the elites of the world, mostly, who also reject the reality staring them in the face, in favor of the illusory comforts of delusion.  We can yet pull ourselves out of this imbalanced state that we seek to impose on reality, rejoin the real world, and wield conscious influence on the tide of time.  We have free will, and we can choose to make this effort, or not.  In this last case, simple physics shows us that nature is a self-correcting system that will not entertain imbalance for long.  If we cling to our delusions about Kim, about Ahmadinejad, about Assad, about Fatah, etc., etc., nature will come and force reality upon us.  It will be harsh, and cruel, and deadly, but nature doesn&#8217;t tally those features.  All it knows is balance, and imbalance.  It&#8217;s not a reality adjustment we will like.  Delusional thinking and appeasement on such a massive scale will bring a harvest of war and suffering that is shattering to contemplate &#8212; unless we change the storyline.</p>
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		<title>By: Layer Seven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Layer Seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 01:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real victims of perpetual Kim Jong Il extortion are the North Korean &quot;proletariat.&quot;

Condi Rice just signed the death warrants of more ten thousands of innocents.

Kim positively runs Condi Rice; he is not giving up anything; nor has he ever.  Condi Rice pays tribute to Kim Jong Il as he murders North Korean peasants by the tens of thousands.

The US Department of State is woefully out of its league in dealing with Kim Jong Il.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real victims of perpetual Kim Jong Il extortion are the North Korean &#8220;proletariat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Condi Rice just signed the death warrants of more ten thousands of innocents.</p>
<p>Kim positively runs Condi Rice; he is not giving up anything; nor has he ever.  Condi Rice pays tribute to Kim Jong Il as he murders North Korean peasants by the tens of thousands.</p>
<p>The US Department of State is woefully out of its league in dealing with Kim Jong Il.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So why war against Saddam, who had no weapons and buddy buddy with the North Koreans, who do (and did)?  Seems like we would have been much better off marching across the 38th parallel than marching into Baghdad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why war against Saddam, who had no weapons and buddy buddy with the North Koreans, who do (and did)?  Seems like we would have been much better off marching across the 38th parallel than marching into Baghdad.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin-U Nam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sin-U Nam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Father and Son Kim&#039;s have been in power for sixty years in North Korea since 1948.  MacArthur wanted to get rid of Kim Il-sung when he attacked Soouth Korea in June 1950, but the State Department of Acheson stopped him.  I heard that Bill Clinton thought Kim&#039;s regime would collapse in less than ten years when he signed the 1994 agreement.  Kim Jong-il is still alive and well and killing people, thanks to the Sunshine Policy of Kim Dae-jung.  From 1995 through 1998, more than 3 million people perished from starvation in North Korea.  In ten years from now, how many more millions should die while all this farce of nuclear hide-and-seek plays out?  Claudia got it right, not Condi Rice! Fight on, Claudia!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father and Son Kim&#8217;s have been in power for sixty years in North Korea since 1948.  MacArthur wanted to get rid of Kim Il-sung when he attacked Soouth Korea in June 1950, but the State Department of Acheson stopped him.  I heard that Bill Clinton thought Kim&#8217;s regime would collapse in less than ten years when he signed the 1994 agreement.  Kim Jong-il is still alive and well and killing people, thanks to the Sunshine Policy of Kim Dae-jung.  From 1995 through 1998, more than 3 million people perished from starvation in North Korea.  In ten years from now, how many more millions should die while all this farce of nuclear hide-and-seek plays out?  Claudia got it right, not Condi Rice! Fight on, Claudia!</p>
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		<title>By: The Rosett Report &#187; Seems Kim Jong Il Didn&#8217;t Get Condi&#8217;s Memo</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rosett Report &#187; Seems Kim Jong Il Didn&#8217;t Get Condi&#8217;s Memo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] House are whooping it up over Pyongyang diplomacy and removing North Korea from the terror list (see post below), Kim Jong Il&#8217;s state propaganda agencies are cranking out items such as today&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] House are whooping it up over Pyongyang diplomacy and removing North Korea from the terror list (see post below), Kim Jong Il&#8217;s state propaganda agencies are cranking out items such as today&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: section9</title>
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		<dc:creator>section9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claudia. North Korea won&#039;t exist in ten years. Rice gets this. You don&#039;t. This is about a settlement of the Korean War and a gradual reunification of the Korean peninsula under the rule of Seoul. 

Apres Kim, la deluge....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claudia. North Korea won&#8217;t exist in ten years. Rice gets this. You don&#8217;t. This is about a settlement of the Korean War and a gradual reunification of the Korean peninsula under the rule of Seoul. </p>
<p>Apres Kim, la deluge&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pajamas Media » North Korea Says No To Nukes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pajamas Media » North Korea Says No To Nukes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another take, read Claudia Rosett @ PajamasXpress: Condi Rice Wants Us to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love Kim Jong Il] Today, North Korea appeared closer to abandoning its nuclear weapons ambitions than it has been in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] another take, read Claudia Rosett @ PajamasXpress: Condi Rice Wants Us to Stop Worrying and Learn to Love Kim Jong Il] Today, North Korea appeared closer to abandoning its nuclear weapons ambitions than it has been in [...]</p>
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