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1. Sin-U Nam:

During the ten years of pro-North Korea South Korean governments of Kim Dae-jung and Roh Moo-hyun, I wrote several times that we needed a Fox News in South Korea. Unfortunately, it cost too much to have an independent cable news like Fox in South Korea. The NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN of South Korea, the pro-government TV news brainwashed the younger generation in South Korea into pro-Kim Jong-il, anti-American, nationalistic idiots, 90% of them. Nothing much changed even after the so-called conservative Lee Myung-bak administration came into the Blue House (South Korean White House). The pro-North Korea, anti-American PDs and news anchors took roots too deeply in the news organizations, and Lee Myung-bak is a cowardly middle-of-the-road bulldozer. If only we had a Fox News in South Korea! Obama has the million-dollar smile of Jimmy Carter, but he is as dangerous as Jimmy Carter. Jimmy is responsible for keeping Kim Jong-il in power so he could kill millions of people in North Korea. No wonder the socialist idiots in Oslo gave the now-shameful Nobel Peace Prize to O after they gave it to Kim Dae-jung and Jimmy.

WE NEED FOX NEWS IN THE U.S., SOUTH KOREA, CHINA, CUBA, RUSSIA, AND MOST OF ALL IN THE UNITED NATIONS.

Keep up the good fight, Claudia, with and for Fox News!

Oct 19, 2009 - 4:09 am 2. lawrence Kohn:

I heard the TV report of what you now reveal was your research on Russian corruption of the UN sanctions regime against Iraq. It not only was excellent and important but I don’t recall hearing about it from Fox’s competitors or certainly not in the depth or the prominence of the facts given by Fox. It would be useful in a follow up column to cite just a few examples from each of the networks where political perspectives were shown

Oct 19, 2009 - 5:19 am 3. David W. Lincoln:

As long as perspective is allowed to trump convention, the deformed souls inside the Beltway with their paws on the levers of power will continue with this gambit.

I honestly say that given all the time & energy that has been devoted to reform what goes on inside the Beltway, it is high time that a US government in exile, which pays more than lip service to the fly over states, be brought into existence.

Obama, and his hordes of zombies, have chosen whom they prefer: Chavez,
Putin, & Ahmadinezhad, over Sharansky, Darwish & Micheletti.

Oct 19, 2009 - 10:07 am 4. mojo:

The rest of ‘em are too busy sucking up for a bail-out to worry about it.

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Oct 20, 2009 - 2:51 am 7. ITF:

The obama administration is, Really – not honest — it’s pushing a utopian dystopia. I advise that ABC and other media outlets take this cue and expunge the obama administration from the brethren of honest governments: And the bigger thing is that news organizations ought not to treat the obama administration as honest, and the people are not going to treat the administration as honest.

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:21 am 8. REEGJE:

The title of this article should be: first they came for Michael Savage.

There is a pattern here.

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:22 am 9. Francis W. Porretto:

The mind reels. Imagine a Republican administration — a conservative Republican administration — taking the same attitude toward CNN or MSNBC. Imagine the outcry. I hardly think the rest of the Main Stream Media would hang back. I hardly think they’d fail to defend their assailed brother.

George W. Bush, not the most conservative Republican in America, endured eight years of unstinting viciousness from the MSM — remember this bit of backhanding, in front of a foreign audience? — that included a number of flagrantly non-factual reports on his conduct in office and the policies he espoused. Only at Fox was he able to get an even break — yet Fox commentators didn’t refrain from criticizing his administration when they deemed it right to do so. What did that president do to the media in response?

Nothing. 100% thereof. He remained gracious from first to last.

“Democrat” has been a synonym for “statist thug” for some years. But clearly, even among statist thugs, some have less class than others.

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:37 am 10. vivo:

Fox News will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess.

All we can do is ignore them.

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:39 am 11. LeighB:

The bias of the “others” is what drove me to watch Fox News in the first place. I couldn’t keep straight why the Edwards rumor was a non-story because he was a Democrat but Palin had to be taken down at all costs because she was a Republican. Wright was a non-story, Ayers was a non-story, Obama’s personal history was off-limits, MoDo’s plagiarism a non-story, ACORN’s voter fraud was OK and their recent video stars just a “few bad apples”…since my parents did not raise me to think right and wrong is situation or party specific, I just can’t related to the Obama approved news outlets.

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:47 am 12. Martin Knight:

I don’t mind quite so much. The silence of the liberal outlets (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, AP, etc.) would come back to haunt them.

In the not-so-distant past, papers – the mass media of the time – were openly partisan. In fact, most newspapers began their lives as party organs as one of the first things any self-respecting party did upon formation was try to establish a network of papers to spread its views.

What’s old is new again. What is going to happen now is that journalists are going to find themselves no longer considered political non-combatants.

It’s about &*%$ing time.

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:00 am 13. adam:

The obvious explanation here is that the WH sees that the stories FOX alone is reporting are catastrophic to its agenda–there is already a kind of embargo on those stories, but apparently it’s a bit “leaky.” At the very least, it’s hard for the lapdog media to avoid reporting on stories like the Van Jones nomination when the Administration itself responds to them. This incredibly desperate attempt to plug even those few holes, which is one with the ongoing attempt to de-legitimate Limbaugh as “racist,” is great news for conservatives and the country: it signals an awareness that open and free discussion is poison to the Democrats’ agenda, and that that agenda can only pass if its essentials are kept secret or heavily obscured from the majority of Americans. And it signals to a majority of Americans that FOX News is the only place where they’re going to get some truth. And it makes it likely that the disgust most Americans come to feel for Democrats will place in the shadow whatever repulsion they displayed towards the Republicans in 2006 and 2008. How is it possible that any advisor to the President, or the President himself, doesn’t see this? They must really believe that most people see them the way they see thmeselves. Smart power!

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:14 am 14. Pedrosito:

There is a totalitarian element to this administration.Only one major media outlet challannges them and they go bonkers .

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:22 am 15. Dougf:

“They could be next.”

Ummm, no they couldn’t actually. They are protected by the very thing that makes Fox so distasteful to the Obama Regime. They are mere court lackeys, AND unlike Fox they not only toe the Party Line, they BELIEVE in the Party Line. They MAKE the Party Line to be perfectly candid. Their past and present efforts in effect ‘made’ Fox News if truth be told.

The problem with the ‘then they came’ argument is that often most people WANT them to come for the ‘others’. In this case the ‘usual suspects’ in the media are likely very content with Fox being targeted by the effetes in the WhiteHouse. They might object merely because it is a foolish and ineffective strategy,but that is hardly the same thing.

But objecting on principal to assist Fox ?
Not so much.

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:36 am 16. genghis:

ABC, CBS, CNN, NYT’s, etc cfriticize Obama? Don’t be a silly goose. You never diss your employer in public.
Just ask Chris Matthews, Mr. Tingle.

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Oct 20, 2009 - 4:48 am 19. Booker T. Gain:

Fox leans right but the legacy media is in the tank for the liberals. Of course Obama doesn’t believe in the free expression of opinion. It’s not a marxist value.

Beck is doing a great job of exposing the radicalism of Obama but O’Reilly, Fox’s lead opinion spouter, has given Obama every benefit of the doubt and has been very slow to appreciate the marxist essence of this president.

I hope the provocation and irony of the Undocumented President deciding which news organizations are legitimate will lead to a more thorough examination of the background of this anti-democratic president and his administration.

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:51 am 20. bill-tb:

What about the Constitution? Does anybody think this government rationed health care scam is even remotely Constitutional?

Maybe the other networks would like to take a crack at it, how about we pretend it’s Bush snooping on your library card, instead of stealing away your entire medical history to government computers — For use of who knows what to do whatever they want with them. Does that make anyone uncomfortable?

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:04 am 21. Paul -Indiana:

Dick Morris made a good point on this subject. He said that the Obambanaughts are against FOX because Fox has more listeners than simply Republicans. As Dick pointed out, if all the listeners were Republicans, the WH wouldn’t bother since those are already lost votes. Dick said that about half of the Fox audience is Republicans and the rest are Democrats and Independents. The worst scenerio for the WH is an informed Democrat or an informed Independent voter.

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:18 am 22. bandit:

Is there anyone in the Obama administration who’s not a hysterical crybaby?

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:30 am 23. SenatorMark4:

Can you imaagine a Republican administration getting away with quoting some mass murderer? Hiring Nazis (communists?)? And still, there is nothing in the local papers. That’s why, when I visit the grocery store, I make sure to pick up a paper and leave it in the toilet paper aisle!

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:30 am 24. Mike_K:

Ronald Reagan thought Marxism was a form of insanity. It did not correspond to human nature. For that reason, it was always accompanied by force and the political left has a constant authoritarian temptation. Some people might be tempted to try leftist solutions to political problems but, when they decide they did not work, they find it is not easy to go back. The left does not take no for an answer. Just read the comments of leftists on blogs. Compulsion is always in their minds as a way to ensure the “correct” solution to any problem. Obama’s White House is no exception.

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:52 am 25. macko:

divide and conquer. they’ve divided the country, next the media. one group at a time will go silent. it will be “better them than me” or “they shouldn’t have done that if they wanted to stay in business”. They just turned on the insurance companies who were their friends at the start of reform. wait and see who is next.

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:59 am 26. Now and Then:

Fox News is the biggest bunch of crybabies.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:03 am 27. fauxscot:

The only people who call Fox “news” are Fox and the deluded masses who don’t know the difference between journalism and politics.

Any number of arbitrary studies have shown Fox to slant right. Almost all the commentators and pundits, guests, and anchors are admitted conservatives. The owner is conservative, for chrissake.

Who are you trying to kid? I don’t watch cable, liberal or conservative, but I sure as hell recognize partisan media when I see it, on either side. Admit it kids; Fox is political, not journalistic. Your own credibility is not enhanced by trying to convince smart people that what they are seeing isn’t true.

I do agree with a concept I heard recently, however,and that is that the network consolidates basically the entire right fringe, (which is basically the entire right) as an audience, and simply drives away the thoughtful centrists out there with the frequent outrages. It serves the interests of the left much more to do that. The Law of Unintended Consequences in action.

Rock on, Fox.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:03 am 28. Thomas_L......:

CNN’s Anderson Cooper would have been fired or, somehow sanctioned, for his totally inappropriate “teabagger” remarks by any truly honest network. My idea? All media personnel should be required to wear a large button indicating for whom they last voted. Since personnel is policy it should immediately become clear where any bias might lie. Everyone’s biased. The trouble here is that only one network is honest about it. The White House, considering the complete capitulation of all media outlets but Fox News, doesn’t like the situation? No kidding?

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:04 am 29. Now and Then:

23. SenatorMark4:
“I make sure to pick up a paper and leave it in the toilet paper aisle!”

Right Wing Scat Alert – Right on Cue

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:05 am 30. WJ:

Ms. Rosett:

The key flaw in your analysis is the basic assumption that the folks at ABCNBCCBSNYTCNNMSNBCLATWashPost, etc are primarily newspeople. I’m NOT saying that on a secondary or tertiary level they don’t care about somewhat accurate reporting, but when forced to choose, these folks are partisan hacks.

They have always shaded things the left-wing way that would purposely make the conservative point of view look bad by omitting information, focusing heavily on the message they want to get across, “name that party” with regards to corruption, etc.

The key difference now is that the left-wing partisans in these “news” organizations now have a leader that they believe they can follow. They both fear and admire the Obama administration. Well paid toadies.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:12 am 31. Mr. Independant:

FOX News isn’t being censured, fined, or (as far as FOX News has stated), been officially sanctioned. Former president Bush frequently chastised the NY Times, so the basic argument of this article is silly. However the administration does undermine it’s credibility when they single out FOX on the right and not MSNBC on the left.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:15 am 32. glenn:

mojo hit the nail right on the head. It’s about money. Lots of pretty bailout money. And careers.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:17 am 33. Below The Beltway » Blog Archive » Why The Obama Administration’s War On Fox News Is Dangerous:

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Oct 20, 2009 - 6:18 am 34. Poor Citizen:

This administration should get out of the critisize business and keep their eye on the ball. Its a big mistake. Taking on the media is a gamble,…not worth the risk.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:18 am 35. ETAB:

I think there are two forces in the WH, seeking to censor the public information activities.

There is, first, Obama. As a pathological narcissist, he cannot accept dissent and criticism. His first reaction will be to accuse such voices as biased, ignorant and ‘unfaithful’. If they continue, he’ll try to destroy them.

Then, there’s the BackRoom Gang who are developing and implementing the takeover of the US within a radical socialist infrastructure. They want to silence debate, discussion and comments about their policies. Their agenda is to set up this infrastructure..FAST.

Really fast. Before Americans are aware of what is happening. Therefore, they want to censor and silence news channels, they want to have them, as MSNBC is, within their full control. Remember how this administration tried to ignore the Tea Parties and then, sneered at them? How it ignored the Town Halls?

This agenda and its proponents is fragile. They are prone to collapse under a critical and objective criticism. They can’t answer questions truthfully.

Recall how Obama had to fire a a few of his czars,how he’s gone back and forth on health care depending on what they hear in criticism; how they try to hide the facts and then, flee when the CBO and others tell them of costs. Remember the story that the bow to the Saudi King wasn’t a bow but was him picking something up? What about the Gates affair? Acorn?

What about their insistence that Congress pass major bills without reading and debating them? The stimulus, a pork agenda, geared to the next election, passed without being read. Heath care – Obama tried desperately to get it passed in August. Without its being read.

Since their agenda is so fragile and yet nefarious, this administration doesn’t want the public eye on it. So much for Obama’s infamous declaration that all bill would be posted on line!

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:19 am 36. Bilgeman:

#10 Vivo:
“Fox News will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess.

All we can do is ignore them”

You’re such a wonderful troll.

Apparently, the Alleged Hawaiian feels that that’s NOT “all we can do”, eh?

Because that is manifestly not working out for him and his agenda. Fox is beating the living daylights out of the alphabet-soup gang in the ratings, so this is “Plan B”.

The fact that it’s both as stoopid, ineffective and tyrannical as it is should give any thinking American some very deep misgivings about what sort of person we elected last November.

“The Sunday morning talk shows just brought us White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod opining to George Stephanopoulos, on ABC’s “This Week,” that Fox is “Really – not news — it’s pushing a point of view.””

This is just pathetic, and side-splittingly funny at the same time. Axelrod is making his case to a man whose erstwhile colleagues include Geraldo Rivera and John Stossel, who are now employed by Fox, and enjoy the viewership and (likely),the money that ABC couldn’t provide.

Onetime Fox anchor Rita Cosby defected the other way, to MSNBC, and now does pary-time work for “Inside Edition”…she’s basically never been heard from again.

If Murdoch opened his checkbook, George Stephanaopolous would jump on Fox so fast that his shadow would be left behind on the “This Week” set, and everyone knows it.

Obama expects professional prostitutes to show loyalty? It is to laugh!

And ask yourself why, if Obama can get tough with Fox News, can’t he get tough with the Taliban and the Iranians?

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:21 am 37. BC:

Please, Fox News is and has been a sad ass joke of a “news” network — more a version of “The Hills” featuring older and even more unpleasant semi-actors — and in the specific case of Obama, he has every right to come down on those right wing numbnuts over their stupid, maligning behavior like this, this, and this.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:28 am 38. peavo:

The CNNs, ABCs, NBCs, CBS’s, or for that matter the New York Times and the Globe-Post-Mercury-Etceteras, will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess.

All we can do is ignore them.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:32 am 39. Tom Moore:

Dougf has it right.

Actually, I dislike the style and format of Fox News, but it is the only option for anyone not interested in the left liberal party line.

I believe there is a market for news radio and news TV that represents an American point of view, frankly patriotic, but not jingoistic, that reports stories in depth, that avoids name-calling and sensationalism, and proceeds from the values that have defined who American were in generations past: individual liberty including economic and political freedoms, and limited government.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:33 am 40. Stevemmn:

Could this group of crybabies be any more pathetic. The “mainstream” media spent 6 years demonizing George W. Bush and printing biased stories against him which often times were flat out false. Sarah Palin was subjected to a savage, unprecedented smear campaign of lies and biased reporting. Yet the messiah can’t handle even one single news outlet which doesn’t worship the ground he walks on. This administration is unbelievable in its arrogance.

If they succeed in bringing down FoxNews, how long before they start to come after websites like Pajamasmedia?

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:37 am 41. Gary Ogletree:

The Obama boys are just following Saul Alinsky. But Glen Beck got there first. Every day he humiliates them with his White House Hot Line to Anita Dunn. They could call him on air and explain how he’s got it all wrong. But he doesn’t have it wrong and the Chicago bullies are really spineless cowards in just about every situation. Bluster works on the campaign trail, but not in the real world. How many viewers dropped CNN, etc, after the Van Jones and Acorn stories? So sad, cause it wasn’t supposed to go like this for The One.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:40 am 42. Sebastian Shaw:

President Obama is a totalitarian Marxist revolutionary who does not want any kind of dissent; he wants to be Dictator Obama like Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, Kim Jong Il, & the recently mentioned Mao. The people will rise up to squash this little man of a cockroach who thinks he’s god incarnate; the emperor has no clothes & his zombie administration are the worst thugs to inhabit the White House in modern history. President Obama’s weakness is his thin skin, arrogance, hubris, ignorance, narcissism, & incompetence all rolled into one unstable human being wanting the spotlight with nothing to say. We the people are not his ACORN hacks & SEIU purple shirts. We the people stand for freedom, liberty, & the American way. President Obama is outnumbered & outwitted. He’s toast.

As for going after Fox News? It’s another excuse for Obama’s feckless leadership. He needs an enemy & that enemy is currently Fox News. Remember, Obama went after Rush Limbaugh as well & Rush Limbaugh crushed Obama. Fox News is doing the same thing. During the campaign, he went after Sean Hannity & now it is Glenn Beck. President Obama is a petulant incorrigible child playing POTUS. He’s about as shallow as they come with the wit to match. He’s toast.

2010 is coming & it’s no good for the Democrats.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:43 am 43. steveg:

The Obama administration thinks of the country as a giant college campus, and anything non-PC should be kicked off campus.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:44 am 44. Gracie:

Think Venezuela.
Then remember “jackboots”….

FOX may actually help the “uninformed” become “informed” and realize what Obama is doing to our country.
Because of this fact, I understand why the left is opposed to FOX. If I were trying to destroy a country I wouldn’t like FOX either.

O’Reilly is starting to irritate me. He seems to be trying to appease the Obamaites a lot lately.
“Fair and balanced” is one thing,
( and that is something I truly appreciate..)
but he’s comin’ really close to grabbing his ankles lately.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:53 am 45. Peter the Bubblehead:

15. Dougf wrote:
“They could be next.”
Ummm, no they couldn’t actually. They are protected by the very thing that makes Fox so distasteful to the Obama Regime. They are mere court lackeys, AND unlike Fox they not only toe the Party Line, they BELIEVE in the Party Line.

Peter writes: Doug, I believe what Claudia is referring to is, if The Won gets away with his war on Fox now, who’s to say the next administration, which could well be Republican given the current mood of the electorate, would not likewise go after CNN, MSNBC, et al when they report on things the new administration doesn’t want the general public to hear, or hear all sides of?

This is a slippery slope that will bite the current adminsitration in the end and completely change how news is ‘reported’ in the US far into the future, and its a future I would not want to see.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:59 am 46. stjames:

Where is congress in this debate? If the media is controled by the white house, perhaps that media could be turned against certain members of congress if they don’t play ball with the white house. While the control of the media would probably only occur under a democrat administration, I would still be concerned if I were a member of congress.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:02 am 47. jb:

I thought I would never say it but this president is a coward. 2012 can’t come soon enough.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:06 am 48. Peter the Bubblehead:

To Mr. Independant at #31:

Bush likewise never said the NYT was not a “legitimate news organization” or commanded other newspapers that they should not follow the NYT’s lead when the Times broke a story the others to that point ignored.

There is a definite double standard here, and The Won’s administration is reminding me more and more of the Soviet leadership at the height of their power during the 70’s and early 80’s.

Perhaps CNN, MSNBC, CBS, et al should just make it simple and all change their names to Pravda?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:06 am 49. Paul from Hamburg:

#37 BC: I agree. Remember the time that Fox News used a fake memo to try to prove that the President used his influence to get out of military service? Or what about the time that Fox News did a investigation into pickup truck fuel tank explosions and used fireworks to make sure the explosion happened? Also, remember when Fox News investigated sudden acceleration in Audis and got it to happen on camera by pumping the transmission full of compressed air? Do you remember when a Fox News anchor decided it would cute to call Dan Quayle “J Danforth Quayle” during the 1988 presidential campaign?

BC, do you remember any of that?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:12 am 50. jb:

If Fox News is the voice of the opposition then doesn’t that mean the left is in favor of closing down the tv stations of the opposition? Who does that sound like? Chaves anyone, how about Che? The left’s red slips are showing.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:12 am 51. mark l.:

trying to imagine the two different taglines that come out of this:

Fox news-”the channel the govt doesn’t want you to watch.”
msnbc, cnn, abc, cbs, et al.-”we are govt approved channels”.

This whole dust-up doesn’t just boost fox’s ratings, it makes the other channels look complicit with govt.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:13 am 52. Lifeofthemind:

Rupert Murdoch is a businessman with his own interests. Conservatives do themselves no favor if they fall into the trap of expecting him to be their ideological voice or savior. He is smart enough to see an underserved market and is happy to pick it up. His other interests include extensive investments in China and we should not be surprised if that effects the perspective that his other outlets bring to stories.

After the NYT ran at a discounted price the “General Betray Us” ad George Bush should have thrown them out of the White House and issued an Executive Order that no government funds may be expended to purchase or support their product, except for cooperation with pool reportage arrangements established under prior agreements.

It is sad to think that the White House press room was built over the swimming pool that was constructed for the polio stricken FDR. That facility was paid for with dimes collected from America’s schoolchildren. There is no reason to have the Press in the White House. They could be relocated to the Old Executive Office Building. It makes a good slogan, “Send the Old SOBs to the Old EOB.”

NBC including MSNBC is a GE subsidiary. The web of financial links between GE and this administration and the ways in which they intend to profit from regulations and legislation that are destructive to the national security and to the economy as a whole are a story that is slowly coming out and which efforts will be made to suppress.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:20 am 53. JED:

One wonders what the WH end game would be in isolating and dissing a cable network. Does the WH expect a retraction, an apology, a discontinuance of their investigations? Perhaps the WH reacted to unfavorable reportings without prospecting the consequences. Will they stage their own top to bottom investigation, call in the IRS and justice department? How does a presidency go about censuring a media outlet without invective and heavy handedness?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:20 am 54. Adrian Forte:

You know… every White House from Washington to Obama has had something to say negatively about the press. The idea that Obama is doing something new, something dangerous, something so very scandalous speaks of a complete naivete on American history. Bush stacked his press pool with people favorable to him, Obama doesn’t like Fox News, whatever.

It’s just inexperience with government to be surprised, shocked, or worried that the White House and the people in in are playing favorites and attacking people they don’t like. Really. Come on. The White House has an opinion! They’re playing favorites with the press! Run for the hills!

It’s only been going on since before America HAD a president. Relax, folks, and read some history.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:22 am 55. Curtis M:

fauxscot:
“The only people who call Fox “news” are Fox and the deluded masses who don’t know the difference between journalism and politics.”

Funny – you could replace “Fox” with “CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/MSNBC” and say the very same thing.

“I don’t watch cable, liberal or conservative, but I sure as hell recognize partisan media when I see it, on either side. Admit it kids; Fox is political, not journalistic.”

Are you SURE that you can recognize ‘partisan media’ when you see it? Or do you just LIKE watching the ‘partisan media’ that you happen to agree with, so it’s OKAY if they’re partisan?

“I do agree with a concept I heard recently, however,and that is that the network consolidates basically the entire right fringe, (which is basically the entire right) as an audience, and simply drives away the thoughtful centrists….”

You just revealed yourself bucko. So, in your worldview, the ENTIRE right is ALSO the ‘right fringe’? In other words, ALL right-wingers are simply ‘fringe’?

So, does that mean that ‘thoughtful centrists’ (which, I presume, includes yourself) are simply leftist that don’t like the ’socialist’ label…..but still agree with all the central tenents of the socialist philosophy?

How bloody convenient…….

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:22 am 56. Moho:

Fox news isn’t a news channel, its an entertainment channel. While its true that other news outlets have varying but awful standards, nothing comes close to Fox. Remove all of the ideological criticisms if you’d like, most of the time Fox news can’t even correctly identify the party affiliation of representatives. What’s more a majority of Americans share the view that Fox news is not a real news outlet. Next thing you know, you’ll be defending the Daily Show as a legitimate news source.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:24 am 57. Libertyship46:

The Obama administration does not really fully comprehend the damage they are doing to this country. More and more Maoists and Socialists are being found in Obama’s administration, we don’t seem to have a plan on what to do in Afghanistan, our economy is in shambles, and our public debt and deficits are out of control. And all this White House can do is attack Fox News??? This is insane. Even if the other television networks do nothing, Fox has a big enough audience to get their information accross to the general public. And guess what? Fox’s ratings are soaring. Doesn’t the White House see the correlation between the attacks on Fox and their rising ratings? The White House is doing everything they can to alienate independents and conservatives, and to their own peril. Democrats better enjoy their brief time in power, because this is the Carter administration on steroids. And we all know what happened after Jimmy Carter: Twelve years of conservatives in Washington. And that didn’t even take into account the massive defeats sustained by the Democrats in 1994 in Congress. But it really seems like the current administration doesn’t care about any of this. Well, they’re about to get a fast education on why it’s dumb to ignore history. The next major elections are in 2010, and the conservatives are coming. Bank on it.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:26 am 58. vivo:

36. Bilgeman:

“Fox is beating the living daylights out of the alphabet-soup gang in the ratings,”

Ratings have nothing to do with being a professional news group. Viewers like Fox because it behaves like a soap opera.

I don’t think there is an ‘ethics arbiter’ for news groups, so someone mature should expose their irresponsible shenanigans.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:28 am 59. BC:

Stevemmn wrote: “The ‘mainstream’ media spent 6 years demonizing George W. Bush and printing biased stories against him which often times were flat out false”

Really? Can you give me and the others a for-instance or two?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:31 am 60. BIG:

I went looking at FARK yesterday and saw this story up on their board. So I clicked on the comments section and I was surprised at what I saw. No, I wasn’t surprised that Foxnews was getting bashed. But what surprised me was the total denial of any left leaning by the MSM. They have actually taken the tactic of calling “nazi” on anyone that brings it up. You know, when you start to call someone a nazi in a thread it dies under stupidity. Many actually thought that the alphabet networks were rightwing and not at all tilted to the left. Anyway, if you call the MSM liberal, that means you are braindead and there is no need to continue the discussion.
I read through about 40 comments before I found a comment on how the Obama administration shouldn’t be doing this. It took about 75 comments before the first defense of Fox even came up. I knew the left was unhindged, but I didn’t know it was this bad.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:39 am 61. Mr Lucky:

27. fauxscot.

“Who are you trying to kid? I don’t watch cable, liberal or conservative, but I sure as hell recognize partisan media when I see it, on either side. Admit it kids; Fox is political, not journalistic. Your own credibility is not enhanced by trying to convince smart people that what they are seeing isn’t true.”

If you don’t watch cable news, then how do you recognize a pattern?

Does your psychic ability validate your own credibility and intelligence?

“I do agree with a concept I heard recently, however,and that is that the network consolidates basically the entire right fringe, (which is basically the entire right) as an audience, and simply drives away the thoughtful centrists out there with the frequent outrages.”

Have you looked at the audience demographics for Fox programming?

“It serves the interests of the left much more to do that.”

Shouldn’t the President represent the people of the U.S. and not just segments of the population that you deem worthy?

37. BC.

“…featuring older and even more unpleasant semi-actors…”

Are you ageist?

“…in the specific case of Obama, he has every right to come down on those right wing numbnuts over their stupid, maligning behavior …”

What if Obama examines you behavior and finds it “stupid and maligning”, and has the government “come down” on you?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:39 am 62. Treeamigo:

The Bush administration criticized the “liberal media”, much as the Clintons whined about a “vast right wing conspiracy”. All the Obama administration has done is make media criticism personal and specific rather than general.

Part of this is because Obama is part of the media- he has made the presidency a reality TV show that focuses on image. Rahm does the actual work of the administration (how much time do think Obama actually spends behind the desk in the Oval Office managing czars or meeting with Pelosi/Reid and the Dem special interests that actually write the legislation).
Axelrod crafts the message. Obama spends most of his time (when not on vacation) either reading Axelrod’s talking points or practicing for those appearances. Remember the rule of thumb that a one hour speech or TV show appearance requires 3-5 hours of practice, preparation and role playing (in the case of interviews).

If you believe Obama is the president, then you probably also believe Katie Couric is a “newswoman”. The reality us they are both nothing more than talking heads who carry the brand image of the people behind the scenes doing the real work.

This is why Obama has taken media criticism (and the demonization of enemies in general) far beyond where Clinton and Bush had. Obama is a brand, not a leader or doer. Brands must be defended aggressively (ask Coke or McDonalds).

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:42 am 63. Albert:

Sorry, you guys (’you lot’, if you’re from the UK). the following numbers show you are getting absolutely NO traction from your various manufactured bases for whining

But the poll also shows that, while Republicans have succeeded in stonewalling Democratic initiatives in Congress, they have not managed to rebuild their party.
Only 20 percent of respondents identified themselves as Republicans — the lowest number since the paper starting asking the question in 1983.
“These numbers, coming roughly one year before the 2010 midterm elections, show that any celebration on the GOP’s behalf is premature as the party has yet to convince most voters that it can be a viable alternative to Democratic control in Washington today,

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/fewer-people-identify-as_n_326971.html

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:44 am 64. Alan:

So, what Obama is saying is that CNN, CBS etc are Government approved and Fox is not.
I think Fox’s marketing boys ought to be able to get some mileage out of that.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:45 am 65. John "birther" Samford:

Just how many of you think there will be elections in 2010?

“If you want to know the taste of a pear, you must change the pear by eating
it yourself. . . . If you want to know the theory and methods of revolution,
you must take part in revolution. All genuine knowledge originates in direct
experience.”
- Chairman Mao Zedong (Tse-tung)
“War can only be abolished by war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is
necessary to take up the gun”
- Chairman Mao Zedong (Tse-tung)
“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”
- Chairman Mao Zedong (Tse-tung)
“Revolutionary war is an antitoxin which not only eliminates the enemy’s
poison but also purges us of our own filth.”
- Chairman Mao Zedong (Tse-tung)

Get the picture? That is the writing on the wall. Either read it or ignore it but don’t pretend everything is OK and will just go on like nothing has happened.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:48 am 66. cfbleachers:

Claudia, I love you…and your work. I truly do. I have written some comments in response to your pieces that have gotten the most attention that I have received.

And today, I believe you are wrong. Dead wrong.

It is important that ANY media outlet not be allowed to present a filtered perspective as NEWS or “facts”. In fact, I think it is a breach of their national mandate/charter as a quasi-public institution.

I think it is an offense so egregious to distort, photoshop, stage events, that being caught doing so SHOULD remove them from the role and responsibility of being the protectors of our information stream.

There is not a shred of doubt in my mind that this is happening today and that it continues to happen on a daily basis. So I say…let’s begin the trials of the guilty.

If this administration wishes to send up Fox News as the first defendant…then that will be their prerogative. If Fox is measured by the standards of fairness, honor, dignity, decency and HONESTY against CNN, Newsweek, NY Times, ABC, NBC, CBS!!!!, MSNBC, Los Angeles Times, AP, BBC, Reuters, WashPo,….then LET THE TRIALS BEGIN.

Only…I want these trials to take place in middle America. I want a full, complete and HONEST trial based upon ONE set of rules for EVERYONE.

Let these trials begin today. Let them not stop until ALL evidence is presented. Let the PEOPLE be the judge and jury.

This administration is absolutely on the right track with this. It’s not NEWS if it is “perspective”. It’s even less NEWS…if it’s intentional distortion. As long as the “fix” isn’t in (cf Chicago Greylord history), I’m willing to let Fox News be judged against the others in measuring fairness, honesty and balance.

I submit for nomination, Andrew Breitbart for judge.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:48 am 67. steveg:

News flash: It would appear the manufacturing czar is a Maoist also. Film at 5:00 PM.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:55 am 68. johnt:

Obama has done us a service in a way. He has revealed for good precisely what liberalism is.
No pretensions, no crap about free speech and tolerance, no guff about diversity and dialogue, can cover what really makes these ugly power grubbers tick.
Thanks Obama, who said you’re useless, or worse than useless.

Not so much as a squeak of criticism is to be tolerated. This kind of sensitivity can always be found in would be but two bit dictators and statists.
And of course the rest of the media does nothing. so much for the value of a free press, guardians of our liberty.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:03 am 69. John "birther" Samford:

BC: The average number of nightly viewers of broadcast news is down under 6 million;

http://www.journalism.org/node/883/print

Meanwhile FNC had 1,190,000 viewers October 17, 2009 Prime Time;

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/top-news/cable-news

Total for the other 5 networks COMBINED was 1,494,000. Do the math. Or, as we say out here in fly-over America, “read ‘em and weep”.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:03 am 70. John:

Methinks Fox must be touching some raw nerves in the White House. By reporting news stories the other stations try to bury, they force an agenda President Transparency would rather not have the public see.

This whole Acorn thing must have reeeeeally gotten under Dear Leader’s skin.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:06 am 71. David S:

Let me know when Obama actually tries to shut Fox down. Until then, this is just sour grapes. Fox is not harmed – they are doing fine, with the help of a dedicated audience. Obama has no obligation to engage with this fringe element.

We all know the way to get the mean kid to knock it off is to deny him the satisfaction. Fox (Rupert Murdoch) will get all upset and cry and whine, but he’s just crying crocodile tears. Glenn Beck is actually a pretty good representation of the GOP these days – not even the pretense of honesty or integrity can be maintained.

Peace.

DS

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:13 am 72. inspectorudy:

This is beginning to look a lot like Venezuela and their “Enlightened” public broadcast policy. The only remaining free radio station is under constant harassment from Chavez in his speeches but also by the police. It won’t be long before Obama has the DOJ start such a campaign against Fox.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:22 am 73. gracie:

VENEZULA….

I think the WH should call into these shows, like Beck, Hannity, or go on them..tell us how FOX people are misconstruing their positions and the truth. Okay, you know they won’t. They’re like a yorkie…attack ‘n run

The WH is afraid that FOX will “inform” the tragically “UNiformed”.

Except for Bill O’Reilly…he’s starting to irritate me with his middle of the raod business leaning over to the left …excuses for Obama.

And what was wrong with my saying I felt O’Reilly was about to grab his ankles with Obama?

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:24 am 74. BKBroiler:

I am cheering for the financial collapse of the New York Times, Boston Globe, LA Times, CBS, NBC, ABC, and CNN. They are all Obama “teabaggers”. They deserve to have viewers and readers desert them as it becomes clearer and clearer their political agenda. At least with Fox you know in advance which side their hitting from. The other media outlets claim journalistic integrity, but are really idealogical operatives. Good bye and good riddance.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:25 am 75. Sebastian Shaw:

BC, if Fox News is such a joke why does Fox News get more audience than CNN, MSNBC, CNN Headline News, NBC, ABC, CBS COMBINED? These other channels can only wish for such ratings. Fox is also growing its audience every week while the other channels shrink. As a result, CNN, MSNBC, & the other MSM become more shrill & more bias is shone everyday.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:28 am 76. Paul -Indiana:

“This is Banana Republic stuff, a stock tactic of pressure and intimidation.”
=========================================================
‘Banana Republic’ or ‘Chicago-on-the-Potomac’? Obama is so thin-skinned that it’s obvious he’s out of his league.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:42 am 77. Tex Taylor:

On a level playing field, real Conservative principles trump modern liberalism every time.

I welcome Obama and his pack of thugs to make the attempt at silencing the dissent. It won’t take long for his jackboots to recognize the genie is out of the bottle and most American citizens finally on to their game.

Hopefully, it will speed up Obama’s imminent demise as the Ghost of Jimmy Carter before more damage is done.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:48 am 78. XiaoMei:

27. fauxscot:

All the cables have separate news and commentary shows, and they’re all slanted, yes. Still, Fox makes more of an effort to cover the other side, and it features smart, tough-minded conservatives who have a good sense of history and no use for wrong-headedneess on either side of the aisle.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:49 am 79. Sherab Zangpo:

The WhiteHouse-controlled media have nothing to fear, they are the servants of the Soros- internationalist subversives conspiracy to make America weak.

We have to be afraid.
Freedom of Speech on the Net is the thorn IN the side of the proletarian revolution horse.

No subversive project can reach critical mass if there is a continuous and strong FREE debate around it. The totalitarians are certainly studying a strategy to quench our voices.

If you look at what is happening from a distance you will see what is really happening: personal attacks against Hannity during the campaign, attacks against Rush in January – February (that prepared the terrain for the last offensive against him), and now a first round of artillery against Fox: these attacks will multiply and will be helped by provocations of all sorts.

It is not an “attrition” war, it is movement war: the muslimarxist have now enough power to pass from Gramsci’s phase 1 (trenches war, the long march through the institutions) to Gramsci’s phase two (”movement war”, direct attack).

Be happy, the phase three is violence, use of large mobs and criminal elements (no, this is not in Gramsci, this is in the “autonomy” marxist teachings of the last thirty years, read Antonio Negri’s “Empire”).
Actually, the aiding and abetting of terrorists is already part of phase three.

Counterinsurgency requires knowledge, a lot of knowledge. Like everything else.

Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

PS It would be nice if someone read what I post, but let’s not complain too much…

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:52 am 80. furious:

Word of advice to the White House political team — Rupert Murdoch isn’t scared of you, in fact he treasures these little “calling out” moments because every one of them drives Fox’s ratings upward. Anita Dunn = cha-CHING!

As Ruth Marcus said on the Wapo blog today:

There’s only one thing dumber than picking a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel — picking a fight with people who don’t even have to buy ink.

As is becoming ever more clear each day, this White House is D-U-M dummm…furious

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:55 am 81. Mike Murray:

It is certainly true (as Claudia Rosett points out) that Obama took an oath to “…preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution…” But it’s hard for me to believe that he truly meant those words. (Which, if admitted by him, would be grounds for impeachment. But I’m not holding my breath.) It is with no small sense of import that I accuse the President of not giving a fig about the First Amendment, the Constitution as a whole, or the Bill of Rights.

In the coming weeks and months, members of the FCC’s “diversity” committee, in concert with Cass Sunstein (regulatory czar), will likely seek to limit speech (at least, speech with which they disagree) over the airwaves. Cable and the Internet are tougher nuts for them to crack, so they’ll probably try to get at them via vaguely defined “hate speech” legislation.

Another mode of attack is the informal “war” the White House is waging with Fox News (with the help, it hopes, of other news outlets). It is a vindictive and foolish effort, and one that is likely to fail.

Moreover, it reveals the true nature of our (supposedly) post-partisan president. He is completely intolerant of criticism, and not at all what he advertised himself to be while he was seeking the presidency.

See: Obama the Spiteful http://emmeffemm.com/id178.html

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:57 am 82. Don:

Gee, given all the problems on the President’s plate, what would Mao do? Criminalize political speech with a different point of view as hate speech, or sociopathic behavior. The world’s oil producers–by and large Arabs, Russians, and the “third world”–are good and non-oil producers–uppity Jews and imperial white Europeans–are a racist state of mind. Cancel domestic oil drilling and double the taxes on all energy products to improve climate quality and pay for increased social welfare costs. Draft doctors and hospitals onto the fixed government payroll, call it the Medical Corp, and double their citizen patient load; have show trials for racist doctors that protest, resign, or retire early. Reinstitute conscription to gender equalize the Armed Forces; require that military operations result in equal dying for equal pay between the sexes. Only college students, lawyers, and the children of party officials get draft exemptions. Only vehicles that get 60 miles to the gallon can be owned by private citizens, and only one vehicle per person or family unit. Only one baby per female is allowed, and abortions are mandatory for redundant babies, unless the person buys a baby cap and trade permit from an infertile female. Redefine capital punishment and executions as state organ harvests to reduce the planet’s carbon load. All private news and cable organizations must clear their news through NPR, National Public Radio.

Oct 20, 2009 - 8:59 am 83. EscapeVelocity:

I think the Obama Administration and the Obamotons, will find that they wont be able to roll this country like Chavez and the Chavistas did Venezuela.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:03 am 84. Frank:

BC 37,
I generally refrain from sinking to your namecalling in lieu of substantive argument level but wow, your eyes must be brown since you are so full of crap. Your links are nothing more than a series of cut and pasted out of context soundbites. Brilliant research. Ever consider an original thought? You viv, now or never, biblib, fluffy turds who insist on doing laps in our punch bowl every day. One can only wonder why, if you truly belive we are the names you call us, you keep coming back? Wrong choir wrong church genius. Take it over to Kos, I hear they have a bigger punch bowl anyway, filled with kool aid.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:07 am 85. Ding:

If Fox went away, something else would rise to take its place. Nature abhors a vacuum. Obama can try to eliminate Fox News with the same tactics that got him in the White House in the first place, ridicule and obfuscation and repeating the big lie, but his success will only herald in a new voice for the loyal opposition.

His attempts to triangulate and disparage go to show that he considers himself the President of democrats, not Americans. He could have tried to bring this country together; that was the Hope and Change many who voted for him were looking for. But instead he attacks a news outfit working towards its vision of truth. Right or wrong, a large segment of American society finds truth and comfort in Fox, not the MSM.

A good leader relishes the opportunity to go into the lions den, as it were, and argue his case. Not Obama. Is it that he has something to hide? Something that he would like to conceal behind the ministrations of a compliant press confused in their own hall of mirrors? Like his true intent?

The opposition’s job in a democracy is to keep asking the hard questions, to focus like a lazar and get to the crux of the biscuit. To hammer away, that’s what they do. He should celebrate that. The fact that he does not is worrisome. Americans need to know what this man’s ideology is and to what extent he will go to pursue it. That’s all.

But whether it’s Fox News, or outlawed pamphlets distributed in the dead of night that shine the light on this administration, there will be a reckoning. There must always be an oppositional press at work in as strong democracy.

He’s going to waste his time alienating more and more Americans playing Wack a Mole with those who question his Long March. And he’s no Mao/Castro/Stalin/Chavez. He doesn’t have the “barrel of a gun” to shut up the opposition. Without that, his administration is just another painful experiment in democracy.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:25 am 86. donttreadonme:

Now and Then,
Day by day, comment by comment, your inner Fascist does grow…

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:28 am 87. donttreadonme:

Here be facts:
Fox News ratings are up by the same percentile as Obama’s favorability ratings have plunged. Hmmmm…
Looks like whitey no likey-likey the perma-racial Commie-in-chief (heck, I’m sorry, what a leap of judgement – its his entire staff of czars who are Commies, not BHO, no sirree)

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:32 am 88. adam:

The war on Fox News is a quagmire–let’s hope the Obamanauts sink deeper and deeper into it. Hopefully they will soon be compelled to point out specific “inaccuracies” and give Fox a pretext to replay (and dilate upon) story after story that the Administration would be better advised to let sink into oblivion. They are being driven on by their own narcissism and by their realization that their base is increasingly disappointed–they are actually doing what they continually accuse conservatives of doing: creating an enemy to distract attention from their own failures and unify its forces. I pray that they will ratchet it up a bit more, so people have to keep watching Fox to find out the latest.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:39 am 89. adam:

“45. David S:

Let me know when Obama actually tries to shut Fox down. Until then, this is just sour grapes. Fox is not harmed – they are doing fine, with the help of a dedicated audience. Obama has no obligation to engage with this fringe element.

We all know the way to get the mean kid to knock it off is to deny him the satisfaction. Fox (Rupert Murdoch) will get all upset and cry and whine, but he’s just crying crocodile tears. Glenn Beck is actually a pretty good representation of the GOP these days – not even the pretense of honesty or integrity can be maintained.

Peace.

DS”

Can’t you tell the difference between laughing and crying? Everyone knows that the Administration is getting hurt by this, not Fox–that’s why we are enjoying it so much, and hope that it will continue–if you know anyone close to the Administration could you please tell him what crybabies we are, and how we are just a lunatic fringe, and that if Obama and his lackeys keep “calling them out” the whole thing is sure to collapse imminently and that overwhelming public support for all of Obama’s initiatives is sure to follow?

Oh, and haven’t you gotten the word: no justice, no peace!

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:47 am 90. Bob Miller:

This article wonders why “Other news outlets — the CNNs, ABCs, NBCs, CBS’s, or for that matter the New York Times and the Globe-Post-Mercury-Etceteras” aren’t protesting the hatchet job against Fox News. Why should they? They want to be joined at the hip with the Obama regime. They want to show their proficiency in refining and implementing Obama talking points. If the government absorbed these media outlets altogether it would be a friendly takeover. They fully expect all future administrations to be like this one. Also, Fox is stealing the sensient members of the other outlets’ audience.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:51 am 91. Juliette Landon:

OK, people, help me out here.

I’m 58, and have been paying attention most of my life. And I have never seen an American political administration target and attck a news organization the way Team Obama has taken off against Fox.

Full disclosure: I don’t even watch Fox. I don’t watch TV, nor do I listen to the radio. (Hearing disability, and I can’t stand captioning.) So I don’t even have a personal impression of what’s what in the broadcast world.

But the First Amendment, and the principles behind that amendment, mean everything to me as an American; and what I’m hearing from the White House frightens me.

Am I right in thinking that this level of attack is unprecedented? (At least since, say, the Civil War?) And is Obama just testing the waters for something even more menacing? Other moves to own the press, and destroy those who don’t go along?

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:55 am 92. Dave:

I’m not sure that what we are seeing from the White House is not just projection from the leftist establishment. They saw that when their left-wing media water carriers dishonestly created a negative narrative against the Bush administrative, it basically took down the president and his party and created the monster we have now. Now the monster projects that onto Fox and assumes that is what is being done to them. They are scared stiff. They assumed the same people that destroyed Bush would protect them but it does not work that way. Now they are in desperation mode and, thankfully, the more they struggle the tighter the knot gets.

The light is being shined on the radical leftist players and agenda. The American people are starting to see it and they don’t like it. The moderate Dems are rightly getting nervous because the extremist Dem leadership is about to get its collective arse handed to them. Can’t happen soon enough.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:56 am 93. sydney jane:

“Fox News will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess. All we can do is ignore them”

But, you won’t. Because, the liberals and the White House need to have a “distraction” and an enemy – Fox is it.

Personally, if the White House is using its power to trash a television station, then that’s the station I’m gonna watch. Our government needs to have some kind of a watchdog. And, even if the dog growls a little too much, like Fox, it’s better to have that than to have the opposite – the dog that just sits at his master’s feet waiting for scraps.

I watched NBC/MSNBC all my life, but I stopped when I realized I could no longer trust them to challenge the president. Fox is not perfect, but, it’s the only station out there that’s willing to challenge this president. I’ll take them. (And, thanks, Obama, for turning me on to them! If it weren’t for you and your whining, I would have never turned the channel!)

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:10 am 94. Delia:

What’s the saying? “All publicity is good publicity” or something akin to that?

Fox viewership will keep going up the more the WH cronies keep bashing it.

Free advertising from the top!

he-he-he

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:12 am 95. Michael Dare:

Fox news is NOT a news organization. It is the propaganda arm of the Republican party.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:22 am 96. baal:

79. Juliette Landon:There might actually be a whole lot more people like you that you think. I dont watch TV either. The only time I see it is at the gym when Im standing on a treadmill. I get all my news online…
I think that Obama would go full blown Mugabe/Chavez if he could, but his myth ran into the buzzsaw of reality and he just doesnt have the support anymore and he knows it. I think they are going to go for a hail mary attack on healthcare and it will be their last act of malice. Then they will quietly into historical obscurity.
My real question is whether the republican party which will then presumably retake congress and then the white house is worth a damn. I dont think so unfortunately.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:24 am 97. Inrptrn:

The night is young and the commies are already showing their cards. Obama’s red dawn is losing steam by the minute and Fox is just too big to ignore. And soon is will simply be too big to fail.

Keep at it commies!

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:29 am 98. mark l.:

very fitting that claudia rosett wrote this piece.

while fox did, eventually, go after the UN oil for food scandal (kudos-eric shawn), it was thru her efforts that the story even managed to get rolling.

The significance and the magnitude of that story, giving the surrounding events, along with rosett holding the only spotlight was pulitzer worthy.

as for the non-fox news?
they couldn’t cover the story, without making the UN look bad, so they just didn’t cover it.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:31 am 99. Dave K.:

65. John “birther” Samford:

Your comments remind me of the wackos on the left wing who thought that Bush would declare martial law and prevent the 2008 elections.

From Bush Derangement Syndrome to Obama Derangement Syndrome.

P.S. John, there seems to be a beam in your eye. Looks painful.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:35 am 100. Gracie:

Imagine all those people getting the HONEST TO GOODNESS TRUTH from FOX, (provable truth, thank you) from an “unimportant” news source, right wing scoundrels!!!! Thank you Obama and all you liberal sweethearts!!

We are so lucky that the uninformed will have the chance to be informed due to your advertising!!

“I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” Thank you mr. King

If voters do judge by the content of character not skin color…
Obama will not have a chance.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:36 am 101. OliveDog:

When the FCC czar, Mark Lloyd, maintains that the First Amendment (Freedom of Speech) is a “distraction” and idealizes Chavez’s takeover of the media in Venezuela; when White House administration hatchet men, Axelrod and Emanuel, instruct ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS and other media outlets to follow the White House lead on trying to tear down another news organization, or else; one has to wonder, what American or American Institution might next be on the White House hit list?

Americans need to wake up to the fact that we all could be a target of this White House (keep Mao in mind) if we don’t agree with their policies. All Americans need to be troubled by the nastiness of the Obama White House towards people that have different views on a variety of policies.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:42 am 102. Now and Then:

86. donttreadonme:
“Day by day, comment by comment, your inner Fascist does grow…”

Tell me, what’s it like to be a fascist on the OUTSIDE?

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:48 am 103. e:

10. vivo: Fox News will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess.

I thought walking through mud and raking it out into the sun was part of the job description.

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:59 am 104. deguello:

Scratch a liberal;find a Stalinist. I’m not surprised. They will go after the first amendment,then the second.they won’t stop until they provoke a civil war.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:00 am 105. deguello:

#86 DON’T TREAD ON ME,RE: NOW &THEN It’s not his inner fascist that’s emerging, it’s his inner Stalinist. That, and the tertiary syphillis! REGARDS!

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:04 am 106. cfbleachers:

Reading the trolls, it is evident that the left, lefter, leftist side of the spectrum really does not like an even playing field.

They DESPISE not owning the information stream lock, stock and barrel.

After all, how effective can propaganda and distortion be…if you have the ability to get at the truth anyway.

This has been evident throughout the Democratic Party debates for national office (Kerry screaming at Charlie Gibson, Gibson and Stephanperfluous getting Koz reamed for asking key questions…et al)

If you aren’t in the bag for the leftists, if you aren’t a shill or an undercover agent for the “message”…you are OFF MESSAGE…and therefore, persona non grata.

This totalitarian grab of our information, our facts and important matters we need to weigh in order to self-govern this land of ours…is now in full blown white knuckle mode. The leftists cannot function without lies and distortion. They can’t lie and distort nearly as effectively without totalitarian rule of the information stream.

So, in typical Orwellian fashion…they change the rules and call it the Fairness Doctrine, whatever leftists distortion is…is fair. Honesty and truth are not.

And the trolls keep regurgitating the “message” to the masses. Leftism is a disease of the soul. Liberals are dead. Long live the liberals.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:04 am 107. ked5:

The president has sworn to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

~~~~~

Did he swear an oath piror to taking THAT oath of office to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? I didn’t think so. He committed perjury as he wants to scuttle the constitution and has absolutely NO intention of upholding it, let alone defending it.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:06 am 108. ked5:

19. Booker T. Gain:
O’Reilly, Fox’s lead opinion spouter, has given Obama every benefit of the doubt and has been very slow to appreciate the marxist essence of this president.

~~~~~

After seeing his response to the won piror to his immaculation, I stopped watching/reading O’Reilly. Perhaps he should be evaluated for dementia.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:15 am 109. Bilgeman:

#58 vivo:
“Ratings have nothing to do with being a professional news group. Viewers like Fox because it behaves like a soap opera.”

Really? So those commercials at newstime on the alphabet soup networks, they’re there for what?

Time fillers?

“I don’t think there is an ‘ethics arbiter’ for news groups, so someone mature should expose their irresponsible shenanigans.”

Yes, quite…

CBS and Rathergate?
CNN and MSNCBC and the false Limbaugh quotes?
NY Times and Jayson Blair?

Do we need to go on?

Well, maybe one more. Rita Cosby left Fox and went to MSNBC, where they had her interviewing porn stars, (for the “newsiness” of it!), and being their “separated at birth” stand-in for Anna Nicole Smith.

You really led with your chin into that one, which is why you are such a wonderful troll.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:16 am 110. Peter the Bubblehead:

To Adrian Forte @ #54:

It’s not so much that The Won dislikes Fox News. I could not care less what news organizations The Won favors or not. It’s how he has in effect ordered all other news organizations to ignore whatever Fox reports, no matter how true it may be, and refuse to report on those same stories no matter how hot a story it may be. And when you consider some of the doozies Fox has scooped the competition with in recent weeks, including but not limited to Van Jones, Acorn’s pimping little girls, and an Administration official’s praise of the murdering Mao, as I said in a previous post, the other networks, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc might as well just change their names officially to Pravda and get it over with. The Won’s administration is becoming the new Supreme Soviet.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:18 am 111. Peter the Bubblehead:

55. Curtis M wrote:
in response to fauxscot:
“I do agree with a concept I heard recently, however,and that is that the network consolidates basically the entire right fringe, (which is basically the entire right) as an audience, and simply drives away the thoughtful centrists….”

You just revealed yourself bucko. So, in your worldview, the ENTIRE right is ALSO the ‘right fringe’? In other words, ALL right-wingers are simply ‘fringe’?

Peter writes: Curtis, you forgot to also add the fact that it is recognized that close to 50% of the Fox audience are self-proclaimed Democrats and Independants. And it’s that 50% that The Won is worried will see the ‘fair and balanced’ coverage Fox provides and realize there is more to the news than what the leftist networks (particularly MSNBC) are feeding to the sheeple who can’t or refuse to think for themselves.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:22 am 112. LAGirl:

Obama’s criticism of Fox News emanates from his sense of entitlement to be able to do or say whatever he wants without facing any criticism or questions. He thinks he is above being a politician — he sees himself as part king, part dictator. So, of course Fox should be persecuted for having the effrontery to challenge him.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:30 am 113. uberVU - social comments:

Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by chucknevola: That last tweet on the President’s persecution of @foxnews came from Claudia Rosette: http://tinyurl.com/ykx4bkw #tcot…

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:31 am 114. Peter the Bubblehead:

79. Sherab Zangpo wrote:
PS It would be nice if someone read what I post, but let’s not complain too much…

Peter writes: Trust me. People read your posts.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:31 am 115. Bilgeman:

#79 Sherab Zangpo:
“It is not an “attrition” war, it is movement war: the muslimarxist have now enough power to pass from Gramsci’s phase 1 (trenches war, the long march through the institutions) to Gramsci’s phase two (”movement war”, direct attack).”

I have noticed this also, and commented upon how openly the neo-Marxists are unmasking themselves.

Believe it or no, this is when they are most vulnerable. They have self-identified, and are now open targets with little chance of collateral damage to those they have been sheltering behind.

As a grunt, I can tell you that when you see an enemy squad or fire-team in your sights, it often pays to consider if they haven’t been placed there on purpose.

In Beirut, the odd, random Abdullah would find himself a vacant apartment, and pop off a few AK rounds into the compound, hoping to hit something, but DEFINITELY trying to draw our fire.
His homeboy, Mukhtar, was meanwhile in another apartment somewhere else, marking a map.

When the artillery came in at night from over the hills in the Bekaa Valley, some dummies wondered why it was so accurate.

So the “over the top”-”out of the trenches” phase has two sides to it.
Consider what the TEA parties and Town Hall protests meant this summer?
Every Leftist commenter, when you read between their lines, was basically asking themselves:

“Where in the h@ll did these people come from?!!!?”

Always been there, watching and waiting for the other side to do something overt so that the alarm could be sounded and wake folks from their lethargy.

Health Care Reform is their first day of the Somme.

“Be happy, the phase three is violence, use of large mobs and criminal elements (no, this is not in Gramsci, this is in the “autonomy” marxist teachings of the last thirty years, read Antonio Negri’s “Empire”).”
Actually, the aiding and abetting of terrorists is already part of phase three.”

That also is a two way street.

If you see a working veteran gun-owner smoking a cigarette after Mass, Temple or Service, then it’s prolly a pretty good bet that you’re among friends…get me?

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:32 am 116. David S:

@100. Gracie:

Imagine all those people getting the HONEST TO GOODNESS TRUTH from FOX

I have an excellent imagination, but this is a stretch even for me.

Capitalizing words DOES NOT MAKE THEM TRUE.

Peace.

DS

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:35 am 117. Peter the Bubblehead:

To Frank @ #84:

The reason the likes of BC, N&T, vivo, jharp, davids and their ilk spend time here in ‘our pool’ is because they are paid to do so. There is no other logical explaination. Which is why it is so much easier to simply skip over the posts that start with those names and move on to someone with a real, unpaid, unscripted thought in their heads.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:36 am 118. Peter the Bubblehead:

95. Michael Dare wrote:
Fox news is NOT a news organization. It is the propaganda arm of the Republican party.

Peter writes: But not to the degree that CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, etc are the extension of the current administration’s press secretary and his own personal lap dogs.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:42 am 119. duncantwn:

NBC = New Barack Channel
ABC = All Barack Channel
CBS = Continuous Barack Sycophant
CNN = Constant Neobarckian News
MSNBC = Mostly Sensitive Never Bashing Corruption
FOX = Focus ON Xcellence

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:43 am 120. Peter the Bubblehead:

104. deguello wrote:
Scratch a liberal;find a Stalinist. I’m not surprised. They will go after the first amendment,then the second.they won’t stop until they provoke a civil war.

Peter writes: Actually, from all indications, they will go after the 2nd Amendment first, because once they take away all the guns, then they can stiop away all the rest of our rights with no fear of retaliation.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:47 am 121. Dave K.:

When I want my patriotic talking points shoved down my throat by a giant multinational entity, Fox News is my first choice.

Rupert “Malignant tumor” Murdoch knows what the commonwealth of morons want and gives it to them.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:52 am 122. adam:

“95. Michael Dare:

Fox news is NOT a news organization. It is the propaganda arm of the Republican party.

Oct 20, 2009 – 10:22 am”

I hope, for your sake, that soros isn’t paying you by the line.

Oct 20, 2009 - 12:25 pm 123. Sebastian Shaw:

President Obama is really screwed up narcissistic quack. In his demented world, the enemies are Conservatives, Republicans, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, & now the entire Fox News network.

His enemies should be our enemies: Al Quaeda, Taliban, Kim Jong Il, Fidel Castro, China, Putin’s Russia, Hugo Chavez, Iran Mullahs, etc al. However, what does Obama do? He embraces our enemies with open arms.

President Obama has removed his masque to reveal himself to be the totalitarian dictator in his black heart; he wants to control the people as if we’re sheep. Yet he has underestimated us as shown in the ever growing Tea Party movement & the increasing power of Fox News as the MSM shrinks.

Why attack Fox News? Obama needs an enemy to distract the people from his abysmal failures of his current administration as unemployments skyrockets & stagflation is on the horizon. The distractions are no longer working Mr. President. It’s time to lead, but you never will.

Oct 20, 2009 - 12:48 pm 124. greenberry:

FOX reports stories the Vichy media won’t touch. And there are more liberals on FOX–even if outnumbered–than conservatives on NBC/CBS and ABC combined.

The “Vichy Press” are indeed “journalists,” in the most denigrating sense of that word. They eschew real news in favor of parroting press releases.

This was obvious even in 1974 when two Wapo shoe-leather reporters broke the story of the decade by doing somehting impeccably suited “journalists” won’t do: find news.

Its obvious now as 2 kids–kids–outed ACORN while NBC did its 50th “in depth” anecdotal story on the pain felt by transgendered vegans over the diet of homeless gay pets.

I grew up with pompous anchors on ABC/CBS and NBC smoothering news with their prejudices. Watching FOX is like breathing fresh air.

Oct 20, 2009 - 12:49 pm 125. Bob Miller:

Since the Republicans’ actual propaganda arms have been so ineffectual, I almost hope Fox would fill this role. But, seriously, it’s far from that, as any actual watcher would detect over a full day’s broadcasts.

If Obama is now supposed to think for all of us, that makes us redundant except as resources to be exploited.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:08 pm 126. Gracie:

Yeah, Murdoch knows and gives it to them…you are right!! We want the truth and FOX gives us facts. Facts that we can check ourselves,

So, all in all…FOX WINS! thank you left wing propagandists for the increase of viewers. KUDOS!!!

I don’t know that the trolls are paid,
they are just lonely. booo hoooooooo <;)
No other posts out there will talk to them like you guys do here. Kinda like warm fuzzies all day.
<Here, people pay them homage everyday with retorts to their drivel..
Ignore them and they shrivel up..but, seems we can't do that.

ALSO!! I think Shephard Smith of FOX is a flaming liberal in disguise. Sometimes the boy can't contain himself.

We love FOX!!

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:08 pm 127. CORA:

#21 Paul – Indiana… “The worst scenario for the WH is an informed Democrat or an informed Independent voter.”

Has anyone else seen the direct correlation between Glenn Beck’s meticulous “connecting the dots” programs over the past 2-3 months on Fox and the recent all out assault from the White House on the network?

Watching Glenn Beck recently, reminds me of the same clarity of thought that Rush created in 1988 when he first hit the national airwaves. As Glenn Beck draws up his “chalk talk” night after night on Fox News the minds of right thinking Americans are finally able to see the tangled web of liars, cheats and cons that now run the country with clarity and for what they really are… collectivist, socialist, Marxist liars, cheats and cons.

The White House has no choice but to attack the messenger of truth they can’t attack the message. There is too much at stake and their house of cards could collapse as we are seeing in town hall meetings and demonstrations for our great Republic across the land.

Behavior predicts. Past behavior, predicts future behavior… always! Additionally, the truth invites inspection… always!

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:10 pm 128. Bilgeman:

#113 Peter:
“Peter writes: Trust me. People read your posts.”

No they don’t.

(wink)

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:17 pm 129. Increase Mather:

We are in a lot of trouble with Mr. Obama. He MAY be an American…but he doesn’t get the culture.

We are not used to administrations acting like thugs…at least, not since Nixon.

These are some bad people.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:24 pm 130. Ruebacca:

Fox news has bighting opinion of this adminstration. Thats a far cry from the NYT publishing state secrets when it sees fit. One example is they published the fact the Clinton admistration was taped into Bin Ladens satlite phone.

The old gum shoe jernalists are gone. The MSM is all marxist trained elitists. Our Universties are full of Marxists so that is no suprise.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:25 pm 131. Cybergeezer:

Obama wants everybody in bed with him and Michelle; What thrills there must be for these worshipping networks!
LEAVE ME OUT!

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:30 pm 132. Cybergeezer:

119. Peter the Bubblehead:
Peter writes: Actually, from all indications, they will go after the 2nd Amendment first, because once they take away all the guns, then they can stiop away all the rest of our rights with no fear of retaliation.

It’s going to get ugly and bloody!

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:34 pm 133. Now and Then:

Rush to NYT Reporter Andrew Revkin. “Mr. Revkin, why don’t you just go kill yourself and help the planet by dying?”

Piece o work that one.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:36 pm 134. BC:

To Paul from Hamburg: Glad you asked….

1) I remember that there was a pile of growing evidence, mostly thanks to FOIA requests and lawsuits all through 2004, and well as from 2000, show unmistakably that Bush *did* receive favorable treatment and *did* shirk a large chunk of his duty.

I also remember how a rushed, half-ass, me-too story by a certain news network late in the game completely trashed all the much more serious investigative journalism that had been going on, and against a very uncooperative White House and DoD

Lastly I remember the mainstream corporate media completely falling on their faces in terms of actually checking into whether any of that supposed forgery evidence spewing from logic-impaired and tech-clueless right wing numbnuts had any connection with the historical records of what exactly memos and personal letters (which have mostly the same format) looked like back in the ancient early 70’s — as opposed to what they looked like in the early 80’s, which was referenced by the first badly confused numbnut to claim forgery

2) As far as that other stuff goes, yeah, if you go back far enough in time — the Audi and J. Danforth Quayle bits (BTW, Quayle goes by his middle name, Obama doesn’t) are over 20 yrs old — you will find screwy bits here and there by the mainstream media. The thing with Fox, though, is that you generally don’t have to go back very far to find some shenanigans on their part as part of their usual business.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:48 pm 135. Emphasis:

I think the Obama administration which strongly champions the culture of envy is putting its belief that envy is an ever-present part of the human psyche to work. Thus, they are providing official cover for the other “news” sources which are getting mauled by Fox to attack and try to discredit it.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:52 pm 136. Carlton:

It’s amazing that individuals who claim to watch Glenn Beck continue to label him as “the face of the GOP”. As any honest viewer would know : 9a) GB is NOT a Republican and (2) criticises both Democrats & republicans alike.

Oct 20, 2009 - 1:58 pm 137. Leatherneck:

Fox news should have supported Dr. Savage. Instead, they did not report the news.

Why should I care what happens to Fox news now? Let’s ask Juan Williams, the commie at NPR, and see what he feeeels is correct.

Juan?

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:00 pm 138. Thomas_L.....:

Not a news organization? I’d be happy to stipulate that Fox News, the information source that the White House dislikes, is the mouthpiece of the Republican Party and the right if the opposition will stipulate that the information sources that the White House finds more to their liking are, de facto, the voice of the Democratic Party and the left. Fair and balanced? 6-1 or so? If you like a pile on. Or if you are a pylon. Ha ha.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:07 pm 139. Carlton:

122 – Should read (a) GB is NOT a Republican and (2) criticises both Democrats & Republicans alike.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:10 pm 140. deguello:

#95 MICAEL DARE SPEWED THIS BIG LIE:” FOX IS THE PROPAGANDA ARM OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY”. If That’s so ,then you Stalinists have a lot to worry about, since Fox is far and away the DOMINANT news channel,with the best raings and largest audience. Face it filth, The days of libtard media monopoly are over, and your boring,sheeplike repetition of patently false talking points won’t bring them back.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:17 pm 141. slavador:

Rupert Murdoch’s ability to create reality out of his concentrated wealth has been undermined. They appear to be attacking Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan with unsubstantiated and slanderous lies! Last week it was the heroically efficient Chinese drywall industry. Soon they will go after the coal industry for natural and healthy banquet of chemicals they enhance the ground with that not only kill the toxic bacteria in the water they make it taste good! Communists are everywhere and if they are not stopped YOU will be next.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:21 pm 142. baal:

120. Dave K.: They are all owned by multinationals. You knew that, right? Maybe you should turn on the old “irony detector” before referring to others as morons.
-the artist formerly known as billslayer

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:23 pm 143. Gracie:

David S. 115

AH YES..THE DREADED “CAPITALIZING”…..EEWWWW

Plus, please tell us of untruths from FOX, and don’t GENERALIZE for our sake…

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:25 pm 144. baal:

To be completely honest–if it’s on mainstream american TV, it’s probably garbage, Fox included. But that said, there’s the old gallstone of wisdom that goes something like, “The relative fecundity of cat feces does not make dog feces more palatable…”

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:27 pm 145. Sebastian Shaw:

According to Hot Air, Obama is attacking Fox News for CONTAINMENT of their stories not to spread to the MSM:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/20/the-real-reason-the-white-house-is-attacking-fox-news-containment/

Van Jones, ACORN, etc al….

The MSM is doing a terrible job playing Obama’s defense of these stories to date.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:32 pm 146. deguello:

#120;Dave K:The only”malignant tumor”, is the one between your ears.Fox is far and away the biggest newschannel because the American people got tired of having liberal(Stalinist) talking points shoved down their throats, by statist tumors like Dan(forger)Rather,Walter (communism for you,capitalism for me),Cronkite,Pinch (my paper supported Stalinism and supports Castro)Sulzberger,and other Stalinists. It must be intolerable to you and the other Marxoid trolls to realize that the American people have REJECTED the Statist media.All you do is repeat patently silly lies like a bunch of demented sheep,increasing the revulsion of,your readers.There is one problem with this otherwise pretty state of affairs; when the NYTIMES goes bankrupt, what will we use to train our puppies?

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:33 pm 147. deguello:

#115 DAVID s(talinist)&maoist(look Dave,no caps) ,regurgitated:”capitalizing words does not make them true”. Gee Dave did you figure that all by yourself? Wow these libs are sooo smart!It’s amazing what Special needs teachers can accomplish even with terminally demented totalitarians!Yes dave, capitalizing words does not make them true,that’s why I will henceforth render your title in the lower case,but neither does their sheeplike repetition in patently false anti Fox cliches!

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:42 pm 148. adam:

This post at Hot air has it right:

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/20/the-real-reason-the-white-house-is-attacking-fox-news-containment/

It’s still doomed to backfire. An article on today’s American Spectator online points to a concerted effort, involving liberal Churches and “media advocacy” groups to develop legal assaults on talk radio, Fox, and who knows what else. The Left recognizes no limits, so they’ll just take it as far as they can. It’s good that they make the attempt–it’s like Hitler going deep into Russia. They’ll get stuck, trapped and destroyed. Every move they make will be spotlighted by the very people they make them against. The revolution will, indeed, be televised–and talk radioed, blogged and youtubed. They telegraph every move, so traps can be laid–I don’t know about Fox, but I suspect Rush and some others are pretty good at that. The Republicans are absolutely pathetic right now, but that doesn’t mean that the Democrats can’t be destroyed, and a new crop of candidates imposed upon the GOP establishment.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:55 pm 149. Richard:

During the Bush presidency, a movie was made about killing him.
Not a very good movie, mind you, in spite of the press propping it up.
And this drew not a whiff of protest, not even from me, who voted for Bush twice.

Oct 20, 2009 - 2:55 pm 150. Jadis:

10. vivo:

Fox News will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess.

All we can do is ignore them.
~*~*~
And yet, here you are. Again.

Here are few examples of the “fair and balanced” reporting I’ve come across the past few years:

CNN had some idiot bleating, with NO evidence (surprise) about how the American military was targeting journalists in Iraq.

The NYT KNOWINGLY ran a story that they knew was BS, but hey, it made the military look bad, and that’s far more important than accuracy.

The LA Times ran a Photoshopped picture on their front page, showing a British soldier pointing a gun at a young Iraq child.

A Reuters photographer got busted for Photoshopping pictures during the last Israel/Lebanon conflict, making Israel look bad.

Then, of course, there was the little problem with CBS and some forged memos.

All of you bleating against Fox News, where was your outrage when the above came to light? Or were these incidents acceptable to you since they promote your point of view?

Yes, Fox News caters to the conservatives, but the rest of the MSM leans left. Why are you so afraid of the other side getting their view out there?

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:20 pm 151. gracie:

I do not believe Obama will shut FOX down.
The white house is upset because FOX has uncovered and shown Obama’s dirty side. He doesn’t like it and is handling it like a juvenile.

“If” he would manage to shut down FOX, we best all head for our caves. However, I believe there is a vote thursday in reference to media regulations, internet in particular..

115…CAPITALIZATION IS GOOD!!! 115~!!…PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE UNTRUTHS YOU KNOW OF WITH FOX..PLEASE. STREEEEETCH YOURSELF…PLEASE.

#79.. “As it has always been, the forces of darkness try to imitate and mimic the forces of Light to lead people astray.”
…Thank you..

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:43 pm 152. Keith:

I don’t know who came up with the “Democrat Media Complex,” but I like it! The moniker “Mainstream Media” just doesn’t tell it like it is anymore.

I say we stop calling it the Mainstream Media and go with the Democrat Media Complex or just “De-me-com.”

Oct 20, 2009 - 3:58 pm 153. Now and Then:

139. baal:
Right Wing Scat Alert – Right on Cue

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:11 pm 154. Leatherneck:

Fox news did not care about reporting the news when Dr. Savage’s speech was under attack. Why should I now care Fox news freedom of speech is under attack?

If the White House is attacking the Bill of Rights. The Unites States military should attack the White House. It has become a domestic enemy. That is what the military has sworn to do.

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:19 pm 155. Now and Then:

Speaking of Beck Heads, did you see the segment with the concerned parent who had his head silhouetted and voice changed? Turns out it was Chris Wallace. Now THAT’S news.

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:30 pm 156. misanthopicus:

RE #10/vivo: [...] Fox News will continue to walk in the mud and its followers to rejoice at the mess. [...]

As luminous chairman Mao wisely said – don’t lose your guiding light, vivo.

By the way, are you by any chance Anita Dunn?

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:40 pm 157. misanthropicus:

Re #21/Paul -Indiana: [...] He said that the Obambanaughts are against FOX because Fox has more listeners than simply Republicans. [...]

Exactly – as of todays RCP, about 50% of Fox audience is Democrat (voters – and sick of MSNBC).

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:43 pm 158. Now and Then:

143. Gracie:
“Please tell us of untruths from FOX, and don’t GENERALIZE for our sake”

This oughta get you started. There are dozens more. Just ask . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/the-ten-most-egregious-fo_n_327140.html?slidenumber=9#slide_image

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:48 pm 159. misanthropicus:

Re #37/BC: [...] Please, Fox News is and has been a sad ass joke of a “news” network [...]”

As of today, Americans have passed into the first big, complete negative for Barry Obama – 51% disaprove and 49% on all big issues (and this is a CNN poll – with the observation that the Nobel hasn’t helped much Obama’s decline).

So no wonder that Obamistas are all out in force, trying to muffle any dissent and criticism, be it Fox, or right here on PJM.
Fox reports objectively what’s happening, and properly responds to the perceptions of normal Americans.
The loons’ and creeps’ perceptions are responded to by Jon Stewart and Michael Moore.

Oct 20, 2009 - 4:56 pm 160. misanthropicus:

RE #56/Moho: [...] Fox news isn’t a news channel, its an entertainment channel. [...]

Mojo, can’t you come with a better take on this? The “entertainment” thing didn’t stick with Limbaugh, didn’t work for Beck, so I can’t see how you could lessen Fox Network’s influence by calling them “entertainment”.
Nothing better that that?

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:00 pm 161. Sallie:

NAT

Is it a “fact” that this is Chris? Where did you find this out?
And if it is…So? I don’t get the problem. Maybe that’s how they knew about Dunn and the content of the speech. I personally don’t know, and I don’t think I really care. I’m more interested in Dunn.

The whole thing is about Dunn and her comments to high school students.

I saw the silhouette, maybe favored Chris,ears are different though. Could have been a lot of people, and the father. lott..edwards (parted differently)..O’rilley..or the real father of the student.

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:08 pm 162. Gracie:

huffington post is not a contender for “truth”..sorry it is places like Huffington that have gotten us in the mess we are in as a nation now. Never addressing the real problems. Huffington post?

AGAINST MY BETTER JUDGMENT!!!!.. I went to your silly Huffington Post thing..nothing..absolutely nothing, a waste of 10 minutes looking .

What do you do, cut, paste, not read,post crap, wait for responses and then try to back up the stuff with this sort of referral? bull, you’re not even worth reading and responding to.

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:31 pm 163. Donna V.:

Yes, Fox News caters to the conservatives, but the rest of the MSM leans left. Why are you so afraid of the other side getting their view out there?

The truth is that leftists are as conformist as the 1950’s Man in the Gray Flannel Suit. Now we know that they don’t really believe in those “Question Authority” bumper stickers they’ve been pasting on their cars all these years – nobody is to question them when they are the ones in power.

Over at the Atlantic blog, Megan McArdle posted a clip of Dunn’s speech from Beck’s show. My, how the leftists squawked. You are not supposed to watch anything that comes from the tainted network. You are supposed to simply rely on Media Matters to explain to you what Dunn really said.

Just like you’re not supposed to listen to Rush, you should just take the MSM’s and the adminstration’s word for it that he’s a hateful racist. Listen to your betters, people! All this thinking for yourself is dangerous!

Oct 20, 2009 - 5:49 pm 164. adam:

This is all great–the Left is, essentially, trying to render Fox taboo–unspeakable, untouchable, heretical. Soon they will be excommunicating Democratic politicians who go on Fox, other media outlets that refer to Fox, etc. It will work about as well as the Catholic Church’s Inquisition and Counter-Reformation.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:06 pm 165. deguello:

#Now&Then Documentation from the Huffpost?Are you kidding? That’s rich! What next? Commentary on safe living practices from”JACKASS”?Or maybe a lecture on modesty from madonna? Keep braying N&T! Libtard desperation is music to my ears.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:24 pm 166. Aleena:

Media bias, yes, but not FOX.

The media has been leaning left for years, and anyone who lives on this planet knows it.

http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:27 pm 167. P T Bull:

The notion that news outlets ought be inclined to protect their ‘journalistic independence’ is flawed in that it furthers the pretence that journalism is their mission. The mainstream media is advocating for obama, and they believe (though they are completely mistaken) that the white house is eliminating a business and ideological competitor.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:27 pm 168. tasha:

Fear not… Those of us who previously could not perceive the bias, are now beginning to wake. The more egregious the slanting, the quicker we arise.

I was blind, now I see. I am not alone.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:35 pm 169. Middleman:

Oh poor Fox. Getting more ratings out of this whole thing. Let us know when your back is truly up against the wall.

Oct 20, 2009 - 6:50 pm 170. steveg:

I may be wrong on my assumption, but perhaps Beck is about to spring something big this week? There is something behind the covered chalkboard he states will shock us with the magnitude this week, and possibly the administration is doing everything they can to prevent the leftstream media in reporting anything presented by Fox News.

I believe they knew in advance about the Anita Dunn Mao speech, and pre-empted it with a puff piece in WAPO stating she will soon be leaving the administration. Possibly they already know what Beck is about to present?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:24 pm 171. Donna V.:

BTW: I have a minor objection to the picture accompanying this story. The arm doing the muzzling should not be clad in red, white and blue. A Maoist red star on the sleeve would be more accurate.

An even more accurate picture would be of the MSM cheerfully putting a gag on themselves. Real journalists in totalitarian countries have risked their lives to tell the truth about the oppressive regimes they live under. In America circa 2009, our phoney “journalists” are rushing to pacify and flatter power rather than holding it accountable. They should feel shame – but I don’t even think they’re capable of feeling it.

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:26 pm 172. steveg:

#124..Greenberry…There are no conservatives at NBC or CBS; liberals need only apply. George Will is the token conservative at ABC.

Lou Dobbs calls them the national liberal media. What else would you expect from a media located in a city that is 90% registered liberal democrats?

Oct 20, 2009 - 7:55 pm 173. Stevemmn:

59. BC:
Stevemmn wrote: “The ‘mainstream’ media spent 6 years demonizing George W. Bush and printing biased stories against him which often times were flat out false”
BC wrote: Really? Can you give me and the others a for-instance or two?

How about when Dan Rather came out with his hit piece on Bush regarding the forged national guard papers. Even an amateur could see the papers were faked, but Dan boy believed what he wanted to believe. Then there were fictitious stories of Korans flushed down the toilet at Gitmo, phony weapons camps in Iraq, stories of female soldiers raped in Iraq that based on a lie but circulated anyway, all done to attack Bush by the same media which serves as nothing more than the propaganda arm of the Democrat party.

Oct 20, 2009 - 9:06 pm 174. First They Came for Fox News… « Get d'Clu:

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Oct 20, 2009 - 10:24 pm 175. FDS:

Fox Derangement Syndrome (FDS) is alive and well at the WH, and is also evidenced here by the liberal trolls that frequent this site.

A clinical psychological disorder was due to replace BDS at some point… Bad habits die hard.

“We knew that neurons can change their firing patterns when habits are learned, but it is startling to find that these patterns reverse when the habit is lost, only to recur again as soon as something kicks off the habit again,” said Graybiel, who is also the Walter A. Rosenblith Professor of Neuroscience in MIT’s Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences (BCS).

Oct 20, 2009 - 10:44 pm 176. REDball6:

WOWSERS! Liberals -as Mr. Faux, calling FOX News Partisan,
wowsers ! What does that make CNN, NY Times, MSNBC ? oh wait I know, fish wrap and a blank channel on my dial!
Geeze that was easy! Faux on buddy, and wipe your “6″ its Fauxed dirty! cheers from the dark side!

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:11 pm 177. mark l.:

at worst, fox is following the long line of muckraking journalists.

wiki def for muckraking…
a muckraker seeks to expose corruption of businesses or government to the public. The term originates from writers of the Progressive movement in America who wanted to expose corruption and scandals in government and business.

so liberal muckraking good, conservative bad.
much like bush debt bad, obama debt good, or
jobless recovery under bush bad, jobless recovery under obama is to be expected, or
bush ira policy bad, obama afghnaistan policy(when it happens) good.

Oct 20, 2009 - 11:50 pm 178. Phoenix48:

115. Bilgeman: Spot on post Brother. Rahm & Axlerod are ramping up the Chicago Circus in full DEF Con for obvious reasons. WH Spoks-CLOWN Mr Glibb (Mr on-message himself) represents the daily carny hawker.

So why Fox and why now?

First it is crack for the liberal-addled base – ride the scapegoat as raw meat for the mob – just like Clinton’s Monica/Impeachment frenzy (which some of Obama’s upper advisors cut their teeth on)

[great line from the movie CHARLIE WILSONS WAR; 'give Washington a great sex scandal and you can park a dozen battleships behind it and nobody notices a thing...']

No matter how much you dislike Obama – and the reasons go on forever – a sex scandal ain’t happening – ever. Hanging Fox however does go on forever – and Fox willingly complies – because it’s great Biz. (What capitalist can blame them.)

The panic is real. They are losing on the message at just about every turn. But it’s the necessary distraction to ram through something/anything & then proclaim it ‘health care reform.’

The rough sketch for the liberal agenda from Jan started with the Porkulous – classic Great Society Democratic party politics – you buy off your congressional majority with massive give-aways – dressed up as ’stimulous’.

Then hang the 1st term on the great party obsession – Health Care. But Obama wasn’t gonna repeat Clinton’s mistakes – because he had a better gift than the ‘92 recession – he had an impending/unwinding Depression – a debated principle depending only on whether you have a job or not.

Notice that Obama and Pelosi have been floating the possibility of another stimulus – and each time it comes up for discussion people get reminded that barely a tenth of the Porkulous has yet to actually have even left Washington. Why? Because the method in the liberal madness is aiming at Keynesian timing – maximizing the most evident ’success’ around the congressional races in ‘08.

Our political adversaries are very shrewd folks. Everything depends upon ‘historical’ Health Care ‘reform.’ And by the end of THIS YEAR.

After that it’s the ‘economy stupid’ – namely getting unemployment down below 8%. (Which the adoring MSM will proclaim as ‘monumental’ without any needed prompting from Obama at all)

But. A funny thing happened on the way to ‘transforming America.’

First a genuine tax revolt in middle america – followed by a genuine health care reform revolt – led first by AARP folks (who told AARP to go screw themselves in the process!), and then staggering unemployment in the face of proclaiming WH efforts would ‘moderate’ the problems @ 8.5% unemployment.

Just about every moderate and a fair number of the outright left leaning talking heads have called this insane politics comming from two very well regarded political minds – Axlerod & Ram Rod – two who have been instrumental in literally ressurecting the Democratic Party from it’s near death rattle just a few short years before Bush’s second term gave them new life. They didn’t both land on O’s team as ‘outsiders’ – these are hard core political vets.

Ram is most responsible for the Blue Dog recruitment that gave them congress in ‘06. Next to Obamas Book (in which he invented himself), Axlerod practically invented Obama politically. Look it up folks.

What ‘are they thinking’ has been the basic response.

What they are thinking is that this Presidency is in real danager of making Carter look like a ‘wise latina’ in drag.

Conservatives need to make sure that they pay dearly, save the country, and halt the ‘obamanation’ starting in ‘10.

Oct 21, 2009 - 12:48 am 179. El Gordo:

They want to delegitimize FOX because FOX doesn´t suppress stories that could damage the Obama administration. They don´t want these stories to go wide and spread.

I am by no means a fan of Glenn Beck. I can hardly stand to watch him. But as long as he is the only one on television who does stories like the Van Jones or Anita Dunn scandal, I salute him. He is providing a public service. CNN, CBS, NBC and the rest are willing to lose market share in order to provide partisan support for Obama. Shame on these cowards for not doing their job.

Oct 21, 2009 - 2:05 am 180. vivo:

109. Bilgeman:

Are watching Fox News 24/7?

117. Peter the Bubblehead:

“The reason the likes of BC, N&T, vivo, jharp, davids and their ilk spend time here in ‘our pool’ is because they are paid to do so. There is no other logical explaination(sic).”

I’m waiting for your check. Here’s my address:

GOP Headquarters
Charleston, SC

119. duncantwn:

FOX = Focus O’Xit

150. Jadis:

“Here are few examples of the “fair and balanced” reporting I’ve come across the past few years: . . . ”

I didn’t see any of them.

156. misanthopicus:

“By the way, are you by any chance Anita Dunn?”

Oct 21, 2009 - 2:23 am 181. vivo:

BREAKING NEWS!

President Obama has authorized the release of 40,000 troops to defeat Fox News . . .

As seen in a popular program on NBC last night @ 10:00 PM

Spin that for me, you crafty foxistas!

Oct 21, 2009 - 2:38 am 182. Francis W. Porretto:

“164. adam: This is all great–the Left is, essentially, trying to render Fox taboo…”

Indeed. And as with all strictly verbal taboos, the key to defeating it is the willingness to defy it openly.

Of course, the stage after the strictly verbal taboo offers more of a problem, but we’re not…quite…there…yet…

Oct 21, 2009 - 2:40 am 183. Pastor of Muppets:

Can anyone think of an instance in which any other news organization openly promoted and acted as ringleader and cheerleader for a political opposition rally in the way that FOX News promoted the Teabagger propaganda rallies and the Glenn Beck weepfest 9/12 march bull****?

No, I can’t either.

That’s why they’re getting called out for shenanigans, and rightly so.

Silly conservatives. Rupert Murdoch will betray you as soon as he realizes that it is more financially lucrative to reach out to the growing swell of young liberals rather than cater to the dwindling number of 70-90 year old right-wingers on life support.

Oct 21, 2009 - 3:04 am 184. Steveoh:

I guess the chill running down Chris Matthews’ leg was caused by an actual substance, one which needed to be reported on in an honest and balanced manner. Perhaps there is a link here to the Monica Lewinsky dress. But we’ll never really know since, Matthews was reporting straight down the middle.

Oct 21, 2009 - 5:42 am 185. Bilgeman:

#171:DonnaV:
“An even more accurate picture would be of the MSM cheerfully putting a gag on themselves.”

Now, now…we don’t need to dredge up the members of the MSM’s recreational sexual activities, do we?

Besides, it’s not fair to castigate an entire industry for it when certainly no more than 70% of it’s members engage in such activities.

Oct 21, 2009 - 5:51 am 186. Now and Then:

165. deguello:
I know, of guello, it’s not enough to see it and hear it. You require more evidence. Perhaps some dough boy weeping in front of a chalkboard filled with paranoid fantasies.

Oct 21, 2009 - 6:29 am 187. Now and Then:

171. Donna V.:

“In America circa 2009, our phoney “journalists” are rushing to pacify and flatter power rather than holding it accountable”

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/08/chris-wallace-a-teenage-girl-interviewing-the-jonas-brothers.html

Stay the course, Donna. Stay the course. Stay the course. Stay the course . . . It’ s never been about stay the course.

Oct 21, 2009 - 7:08 am 188. David P:

Hating the messenger gives greater credence to the message.

Oct 21, 2009 - 7:47 am 189. arthur:

The MSM is fairly middle ground conservative, with a couple people on both sides outside the middle range, with a history of supporting anyone in the white house and corporations(see the new york times , the supposed liberal paper that printed bush chaney iraq lies on a daily basis w/out vetting) but Fox isn’t conservative news, its not news at all, its a propaganda channel.

Oct 21, 2009 - 8:21 am 190. Carlos Caliente:

60 Minutes ran reports every other week that were critical of the Bush administration and they were applauded by CBS and the Demoncrats, until they went to far and zealously exceeded reality and stooped to actual intentional lying about Bush. So far FOX has not told any lies and maybe that is what has the White House so upset.

Oct 21, 2009 - 9:07 am 191. Bloodthirsty Warmonger:

Today’s version of “The Emperor has no clothes!” is that Barack Obama is too thin-skinned to be in politics and should resign from the presidency. Because he can’t handle the truth, he would rather attack an easy target, Fox News, even at the cost of underminding the First Amendment. This is not the only example of the Left trying to criminalize thought, especially of the conservative variety. And not all of us are over 70 and on life support.;)

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:15 am 192. Peter the Bubblehead:

@ #182
Oh God, it’s back.

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:22 am 193. Settle down now...:

“Vivo” and “Now and Then”:

It must be frustrating to be such bitter people. So much hatred is not good for you. Life is too short…relax a little.

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:24 am 194. Peter the Bubblehead:

188. arthur wrote:
The MSM is fairly middle ground conservative, with a couple people on both sides outside the middle range

Peter must ask: And when was the last time arthur looked at a TV news broadcast or newspaper like the NYT or LATimes? Becuase if he can actually write that with a striaght face, it has to have been at least 25 years or more.

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:25 am 195. Peter the Bubblehead:

Or, come to think of it, perhaps Arthur @ #188 is to far leftist that even The Won appears conservative to him?

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:27 am 196. steveg:

Anyone else hear that foul mouthed Wanda Sykes is new to late night talk?
Yes, The Wanda Sykes Show on Fox Broadcasting. Degenerate TV at its best.

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:48 am 197. deguello:

#182PASTOR OF MUPPETS : Is that what they call a libtard clergyman who is also a member of NAMBLA? After all Your dweeb/thug president gave millions to ACORN to promote underage prostitution!

Oct 21, 2009 - 10:48 am 198. deguello:

#188 ARTHUR spewed:”THE MSM IS FAIRLY MIDDLE GROUND CONSERVATIVE”.Gee Arthur,I”m confused, Is that just another example of the big lie? Or do you share N&T’s medical affliction (tertiary syphillis SEE ABOVE)? If you really believe this, then you probably believe in the wonders of Castro’s Cuba,The enormous respect for human life of Stalin, and Hitler’s wonderful ideas for the future of Europe.If so, then PJM is not for you, Join the Flat Earth society( NY TIMES chapter),that way, you can both write drivel and believe it!

Oct 21, 2009 - 11:02 am 199. Daily Edition 10/21/09 « The Quantum Conservative:

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Oct 21, 2009 - 11:23 am 200. Sebastian Shaw:

Arthur what alternate reality do you get this information? The MSM are liberals, largely Socialists, touting the wonders of nationalized health care, the car industry, banks, & trying their best to put a good face on Obama’s failures such as Porkulus, TARP II, his inertia on Afghanistan, etc al…

You must be referring to Earth-3 (DC Comics) with your opinion. Look up the reference Arthur before you retort.

Oct 21, 2009 - 12:41 pm 201. Donna V.:

N & T, sorry but I could care less what the Atlantic’s head OB/GYN has to say about anything. He utterly beclowned himself and continues to beclown himself by his twisted obsession with Palin’s womb (as if he knows anything about the female reproductive system.) He’s part of the problem.

Only fools take him seriously, so it’s no surprise you link to him.

Oct 21, 2009 - 1:44 pm 202. wrg:

125. Bob Miller:

“If Obama is now supposed to think for all of us, that makes us redundant except as resources to be exploited.”

Don’t worry he’s not properly equipped.

Oct 21, 2009 - 2:05 pm 203. adam:

All signs from the leftist trolls seem to be that Obama’s base is egging him on to continue the war, and nothing can be better news for both Fox and conservatives. Maybe the next election will essentially be a contest over which of the two parties is stupider, and the Democrats certainly seem to be determined to remain in contention.

Oct 21, 2009 - 2:59 pm 204. Bilgeman:

#177 Phoenix48:
“So why Fox and why now?”

You have to ask yourself why the Obama gang would do such a stupid thing with the nation’s most watched cable new networks while simulatneously attacking the cash-rich health insurance industry and trying to steer hi radical legislative agenda through the Congress.

“The panic is real. They are losing on the message at just about every turn”

Absolutely.

I mean, really, it’s quite mad, when you consider it.

“What ‘are they thinking’ has been the basic response.

What they are thinking is that this Presidency is in real danager of making Carter look like a ‘wise latina’ in drag.”

MIND BLEACH!

I’ve been pondering that myself, and may have come up with a reasonable answer,(reasonable in the sense that it explains the motive, NOT the thinking behind it).

Ask yourself:
What does Obama politically fear the MOST when he tries to sleep at night?

He fears the very thing that he is the greatest beneficiary of:

namely, that the media will do to him what it did to his predecessor.

And it’s happening.

Had you clicked over to Rasmussen Reports daily tracking poll of his popularity, you will see that he is at net -13 rating, with only 27% Strongly Approving and fully 40% Strongly Disapproving of his performance.

How long did it take for 3 broadcast, 3 cable networks and the print MSM to bring George Bush to similar numbers?

The earliest I’ve been able to find comparable numbers is in May of 2007, a full 6 years into Bush’s term in office, and at a time when he was disastrously flacking for Immigration Reform.

Think about that for a minute, Fox News and the Right Wing Blogosphere alone have done to Obama in 10 MONTHS what it took the MSM over 5.5 YEARS to do to Bush’s popularity.

No wonder he’s trying to stifle the one network that dares to call his Administration on it’s deceit and corruption and it’s failures.

And here’s a very interesting tid bit…look at when Obama first started racking up back-to-back negatives:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history

Looks like the American People decided to liberate themselves from Barack Obama’s regime over the July 4th weekend, huh?

That was the turning point, and a month later, it hadn’t reversed course, or the next, or the next,(even after the Nobel peace Prize!)..so they’re stumped and they’re scared, and so they decide in desperation to attack the messenger.

You just gotta face it, the Almighty really DOES love America, despite the stupid mistakes we often make.

Oct 21, 2009 - 5:29 pm 205. Jadis:

Vivo – you really never heard of ANY of that?? I’ll try to find some links, but most of it is fairly old. But certainly you’re aware of the CBS memo debacle….?

Arthur – most journalists freely admit to leaning left. How on earth can you say it’s a conservative media?? Even the AP hack who covers Alaska leans so far left that local hunters and trappers I know personally come across poorly. Just in case you didn’t see my earlier post regarding the BS that passes for “journalism” these days, here’s a recap:

CNN had some idiot bleating, with NO evidence (surprise) about how the American military was targeting journalists in Iraq.

The NYT KNOWINGLY ran a story that they knew was BS, but hey, it made the military look bad, and that’s far more important than accuracy.

The LA Times ran a Photoshopped picture on their front page, showing a British soldier pointing a gun at a young Iraq child.

A Reuters photographer got busted for Photoshopping pictures during the last Israel/Lebanon conflict, making Israel look bad.

Then, of course, there was the little problem with CBS and some forged memos.

Where in these examples do you see ANY conservatism?

Oct 21, 2009 - 5:51 pm 206. Now and Then:

misanthropicus:

So, how’s that Jennings thing coming along? Wanna change your mind again? Before you do, you might want to check out this:

http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/10/how_kevin_jennings_survived.php

What’s it gonna be misconfusative?

Oct 21, 2009 - 6:49 pm 207. Phoenix48:

203. Bilgeman: – thanks for the link – the tracking is pretty amazing. Wonder why it doesn’t get mentioned as much as either NY Times or WaPO polling? Futher -wonder how this data sizes up to say – Zogby?

I agree about the O’s night sweats – with this as a rival caveat.

What has him after midnight with his head in his hands bent over mimicing Lincoln after Antietam is not that Fox is outing his bat-*&^$ crazy appointee’s – it’s his guana-fied bat-(*&^ crazy left wing party members who demanded he order the troops into full-blown panic retaliation.

In that regard they are acting every bit as idiotic as the Army of the Potomac circa 1862.

And that, not Fox is his greatest threat when going down this road. While Glibbs, Axle, & Ram lash the administration to the lifeboat, Murdoch and shareholders are doing backflips and summersaults over this – they will make oil tankers of money in a protracted war with Obama’s WH!

It likewise was illuminating that you pointed out for us that Bush really did the dive into Truman negatives until so late – considering that the MSM had totally turned on him -BEFORE THE 04 ELECTION!

The darkest year for me memory-wise was post Katrina – right when he tried to recommend Harriet M to the S Court -in the midst of numerous congressional scandals and ultimately (in my view) his hardest blow – loosing Delay. Love em or Hate em the Hammer was what kept the congressional conservatives in camp – and Bush’s pres basically died the day Tom Delay resigned – it never recovered. Nor did the Party for that matter.

What is so comforting about Obama’s rapid fall is that it is precisly the constituency that pushed him over – Independents – that are now suffering extreme buyers remorse and pulling away.

In this respect Fox news has done an enormous service to the country by taking the lead in vetting who Obama has surrounded himself with and grading his presidency on the conservative sliding scale – and this is driving progressives who support (even there trolling minions here!) him almost as crazy as Bush Derrangement.

Of course I as a conservative admit to anyone I do believe that Fox leans right – but – and this is a vital point – they do so during a current era that is as partisan in the media as ANY IN MY LIFETIME (age 50).

And they are frankly open about it. But Brit Hume, his understudy Baier, Chris Wallace – the whole capital gang -
it’s total bull that americans dismiss these folks due to a conservative bias now – or that they ever will.

There is a vital difference – no different than reading Swift’s A MODEST PROPOSAL and Krauthammers latest column –
and that is while the age old maxim concerning news has been ‘if it bleeds it leads’ – the new post internet/blog addage has shifted to ‘when it leads it bleeds’ – as in it blends and influences the influentional commentary on a network.

And ALL THESE ARE BIASED – the commentary is intentional political either to the Right (Fox) and the left (just about everyone else). The pubilc knows this – and they cans sniff out propaganda in a heartbeat.

What Fox has done is FORCED the rest of the news folks to do the very same coverage of which ‘czar’ or appointee is now on target. Just look at the strained attempts to say the Tax Revolt was ‘in the thousands’ – man I can’t tell you how many Obama indies I know really got shook up about that.

They didn’t necessarily want to join in – but it really makes a difference that Anderson Cop-out & CNN were doffing off like the domestic equivalent of the BBC.

What has me cautious is that it’s so early – we got a year before the ‘10 election. Conservatives in congress have been given an early release from the dog house they put us all in – now they have to deliver candidates with answers -and all the talk about O being the better improved FDR will – like the Soviet Union – slip quietly into the dustbin of WTF were voters thinking!

Oct 21, 2009 - 9:17 pm 208. Bilgeman:

Update to my #203:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123806/Obama-Quarterly-Approval-Average-Slips-Nine-Points.aspx

“In fact, the 9-point drop in the most recent quarter is the largest Gallup has ever measured for an elected president between the second and third quarters of his term, dating back to 1953. One president who was not elected to his first term — Harry Truman — had a 13-point drop between his second and third quarters in office in 1945 and 1946.”

Wow. Just wow. I knew his numbers were sliding badly, but i was only comparing them to Bush 43’s decline.

This guy’s slide is so bad that they only thing to compare it to is Clinton’s, (and that worked out SO well for the Dems in ‘94).

No wonder the Obots are attacking FNC, this is nearly unprecedented, and I don’t see how Obama can find and implement the guidance of another Dick Morris to salvage himself.

Oct 21, 2009 - 9:52 pm 209. Brian:

If Fox is pissing off the WH, great! They are doing their job! I notice that the the WH isnt able to attack the content of the message.. only the messenger. An old tired tactic that is seen by many of the trolls on this forum.

Oct 22, 2009 - 12:45 am 210. Now and Then:

201. Donna V.:

“In America circa 2009, our phoney “journalists” are rushing to pacify and flatter power rather than holding it accountable.

I agreed. And I offered proof. So, Donna, why so bitter? Truth’s hard, isn’t it, Donna? It hurts to see your heroes engage in such fawning obeisance. As I recall, Chris Wallace wore exactly the same outfit as Cheney on the interview. BLue blazer, white shirt, khaki pants – oh, they looked so dashing, so smart, those two conservatives fops strolling through the well-groomed garden of Camp Cheney. “Gee, Mr. Vice President, was it difficult to be so strong?”

The world hasn’t forgotten the politics of destruction wrought by Bush/Cheney. We can’t forget, because Fox News reminds us everyday. And for that, I thank them.

Calling out Fox for what they are is a stroke of genius.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/14/jon-stewart-takes-on-fox_n_320287.html

Donna, Donna, Donna . . . don’t cling so desperately to blind, uninformed ideology. Whatever happened in your past to make you so angry and resentful, it doesn’t matter now.

Oct 22, 2009 - 6:03 am 211. deguello:

Dear PJMers LEASE JOIN ME IN GLOATING OVER THIS HEADLINE:NYTIMES SLASHES NEWSROOM BY 100 POSITIONS-NY POST(10/20/2009). STALINISM NO LONGER SELLS! It seems the slimes ability to dispense stalinist agitprop continues to wane.A’int it great!THAT”s why they want to close Fox down!It’s a compensatory measure.Maybe the 100 totalitarian liars can find employment in Cuba’s news agency,or on the staff of one of OBAMA’s COMMIETSARS!

Oct 22, 2009 - 6:23 am 212. vivo:

193. Settle down now…:

“Vivo” and “Now and Then”:

“It must be frustrating to be such bitter people.”

What makes you think that? I read PJM because of all the hilarious lunatic stuff.

Oct 22, 2009 - 6:54 am 213. Sebastian Shaw:

A large part of President Obama’s collapse with all the polls is he has no leadership skills–despite super-majorities in the House & Senate–combined with his radical Leftists policies the people outright reject; furthermore, Obama’s unhealthy ego will not let him see his rigid politics are rejected–it must be Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, & now the entire Fox News network’s fault. He’s a moron who thinks he’s a genius.

Oct 22, 2009 - 7:10 am 214. Now and Then:

208. Bilgeman:
“I don’t see how Obama can find and implement the guidance of another Dick Morris to salvage himself.”

Glory be, why doesn’t it surprise me that you would hail a guy who tells a hooker, “Hey, I’ll let you listen in on my phone call to the president while you suck my toes.”

Yeah, he’s quite the guy. He’s on Fox, right?

Oct 22, 2009 - 7:23 am 215. Jim Hlavac:

Just when does Obama’s statements such as on FOX and appointing Mao-loving Czars become an abdication or abrogation of his oath of office, and thus, just possibly, impeachment material?

Oct 22, 2009 - 8:57 am 216. Bilgeman:

#214 Now and Then:
“Glory be, why doesn’t it surprise me that you would hail a guy who tells a hooker, “Hey, I’ll let you listen in on my phone call to the president while you suck my toes.”

Yeah, he’s quite the guy. He’s on Fox, right?”

I’m sorry, but do you have a point here?

If Anita Dunn can hold Communist mass-murderer Mao Tse Tung to be one of her two favorite philosophers, I don’t see the harm in recognizing Dick Morris for his political feat in salvaging the Clinton Presidency.

Even though I wish he’d not done it.

And if Obama’s popularity keeps dropping at the rate that it is, I’ll wager that the Alleged Hawaiian himself will be willing to suck Morris’ toes if Dick pulls out that ole black magic triangulation of his.

(Not that Dick or Barack necessarily roll that way…but there’s a saying about politicians and their bedfellows…)

Oct 22, 2009 - 10:34 am 217. Drew:

I think the solution is clear.

Every news organization willing to comply with the White House is to be given the White House Seal of Approval — and be required to display it prominently during their network newscasts (or in the case of 24-hour news channels, displayed in perpetuity).

Then viewers can look and immediately see that, hey, this network is approved by the White House! Therefore I can trust that what they say is true and, more importantly, actually news! How easy for me now to figure things out! No more need to think for myself! Whee!

And since Fox will (currently) be the only station not displaying this Seal of Approval, then viewers will know that they do not report “double-plus truefact” about the Obama administration, and must be shunned.

I’m sure the other networks will be willing to display this Seal of Approval. Why wouldn’t they? :sauron:

We could call it the Obama News Approval Network! (or ONAN, for short).

Oct 22, 2009 - 10:57 am 218. r peepers:

The people who showed up at town meetings to tell the ObamaCare mouth pieces they didn’t like it weren’t citizens said, Obama, “they’re a mob.”

Because Fox News refuses to carry Obama’s water it isn’t a news network. They’re “a bunch of radical wingnuts.”

And Barack Obama who Acorn stole the election for, isn’t really our President. He’s just another bum from the neighborhood.
Not to mention a liar and a cheat.

Which is true? A, B or C?

Oct 22, 2009 - 11:21 pm 219. jim cordy:

I think that the answer is “C”.

And because BO isn’t really our President, and has been masquerading as one, he should be under federal indictment. Just like masquerading as a policeman is a crime.

And Barack should be led out of the White House in shiny, silver handcuffs.

Barack is a fake. A fraud. A charlatan.

Why can’t he make the decision to send more troops to Afghanistan. He’s waiting for the local elections in New Jersey and Virginia. It’s pure politics.

Which is why Obama is a pure, unadulterated phony.

Barack won’t lose the 2012 election because he won’t run. “For health reasons.”

It’ll be Palin versus Hillary.

And Palin’ll kick Hillary’s big, blotchy, butt.

Oct 22, 2009 - 11:41 pm 220. Now and Then:

216. Bilgeman:
“I’m sorry, but do you have a point here?”

Well then, let me spell it out for you . . . don’t be so quick to sacrifice character for political gain. That’s what 70% of conservatives do.

Oct 23, 2009 - 5:45 am 221. deguello:

NOW and Then #220 N&T What an amusing little post! A liberal pushing character.How surreal!Character eh? You mean like Clinton’s sexual escapades,Dunn’s preferences in political philosophers, Pelosis’ taking money from NAMBLA, and Dan Rather’s respect for the truth? Acorn’s interest in voter fraud and underage prostitution?That KIND of character.N&T you are a scream!

Oct 23, 2009 - 11:08 am 222. Bilgeman:

#220 Now and Then
“Well then, let me spell it out for you . . . don’t be so quick to sacrifice character for political gain. That’s what 70% of conservatives do.”

I was talking about Obama and the possibility if his finding a Dick Morris to salvage his Presidency if his poll numbers continue dropping.

You replied with a comment about Morris’ sexual practices.

I failed to see any point to your comment, and now you claim that it has to do with conservatives’ character?

So Dick Morris likes to get his toes sucked by a woman…as long as it’s consensual, his freak isn’t a crime.
It’s not even particularly freaky, since I know more than a few dames who like their toes sucked, too.
(Although the fact that he’s a man toe-suckee is a bit novel, but then that’s not what hetero men would brag about to each other).

And it has precious little bearing on what he was able to do as a Democratic consultant.

Frankly, the fact that you even saw fit to bring it up is kinda creepy.

Have you finally lost your remaining marbles, or did I miss the memo about this being “Non-Sequitur Friday”?

Oct 23, 2009 - 1:23 pm 223. Steynian 392 « Free Canuckistan!:

[...] the President of the United States gives his staff and advisers a green light to single out and denigrate by name a specific news organization …. (washingtonexaminer, senseofevents, [...]

Oct 23, 2009 - 4:24 pm 224. ra:

Hi everybody. My name is Raphael and I blog at dailyraphirmations.com I also love to sing. Do you love to sing too? We’ll then sing along with me:
“Obama don’t allow no Fox New Channel here,
Obama don’t allow no Fox news Channel here,
We’ll we don’t care what Obama don’t allow,
gonna include Fox News anyhow,
Obama don’t allow no Fox News Channel here.
Rahm’a don’t allow no right-wing radio here,
Rahm’a don’t allow no right-wing radio here,
We’ll we don’t care what your Rahm’a don’t allow,
He’s in too tight with Rachel Maddow,
Rahm’a don’t allow no right-wing radio here…..

Oct 23, 2009 - 5:20 pm 225. Now and Then:

222. Bilgeman:

“So Dick Morris likes to get his toes sucked by a woman…as long as it’s consensual, his freak isn’t a crime.”

Actually, it is a crime. Add the fact that he was letting the hooker listen into a phone cal with the president and, yes, it’s a character issue.

221 of guello . .. I don’t think you want to go tit for tat, given your wide stance on the issue.

Oct 23, 2009 - 7:30 pm 226. JJ:

Lets be honest. THey’ve been bashing him since before he was elected. The white house should correct lies against them by Fox News. Obama isn’t shutting down Fow News but showing their outrage at unfair,biased reporting. I’ve lived in dictatorships and if they want to shut a news network down. THey just send the army to do it.

Oct 24, 2009 - 12:47 am 227. David P:

When they came for the ‘Dissenters’……the ‘Dissenters’ spoke up & were Amplified.

In America we’ve been conditioned to believe that the given story is ‘usually’ a superficial summary of the ‘real’ story, spun & manipulated to meet a national appeal. The louder this administration’s attempts are to silence debate, the greater the evolution of capacity to expose it’s intent.

Oct 26, 2009 - 5:44 am 228. Mike Hunt:

How is this any different from when the former VP gave “exclusive” interviews to Fox news and no other news outlet? The same held true for many in the former cabinet. Funny – when anyone questioned ANY practice of the former administration, they were labeled anti American.

Oct 26, 2009 - 10:29 am 229. KBB:

“Peter writes: Doug, I believe what Claudia is referring to is, if The Won gets away with his war on Fox now, who’s to say the next administration, which could well be Republican given the current mood of the electorate, would not likewise go after CNN, MSNBC, et al when they report on things the new administration doesn’t want the general public to hear, or hear all sides of?”———I can virtually guarantee that this will not happen with a Republican admin in the WH, based on history. Why? Because, basically Dems (libs) are immature and whiney, while Repubs (conservatives) are mature and tolerant. Conservs have less energy than libs – they don’t have a chip on their shoulder, they don’t react instantly to the smallest slight, etc. Look at how lethargic the GOP is right now to all the crap that’s going on with Obama and Co. They could use a kick-start. That’s why they’ve never been a rabble-rousing WH admin and they won’t be in future.

Nov 2, 2009 - 1:12 am 230. KBB:

Libertyship46: “The Obama administration does not really fully comprehend the damage they are doing to this country…”——————I disagree – Obama and Company know EXACTLY what they are doing to this country. Let’s not be naive.

Nov 2, 2009 - 1:18 am 231. Gaffe Prices:

Nothing brings out Axelrod’s “Army of Defenders” like a good old fashion Fox News Bash- It’s the Fox News Monster! AHHHHHH!!!

Nov 12, 2009 - 11:50 am

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