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		<title>By: miriam jaffe</title>
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		<dc:creator>miriam jaffe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fascist takeover of our country did not occur in a vacuum, and Republicans must take responsibility.  We voted in that dimwitted, &quot;compassionate&quot; conservative chimp, who encouraged the Fed to suppress interest rates to fuel a phony bubble, and all the while spent money like a drunken sailor.  Why are multi-billion dollar bailouts tantamount to socialism with Obama proposes them, but not when Bush did?  I am so sad that our country is sinking into a socialist pit, but more so I am angry at how we got here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fascist takeover of our country did not occur in a vacuum, and Republicans must take responsibility.  We voted in that dimwitted, &#8220;compassionate&#8221; conservative chimp, who encouraged the Fed to suppress interest rates to fuel a phony bubble, and all the while spent money like a drunken sailor.  Why are multi-billion dollar bailouts tantamount to socialism with Obama proposes them, but not when Bush did?  I am so sad that our country is sinking into a socialist pit, but more so I am angry at how we got here.</p>
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		<title>By: forrest kimbrough</title>
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		<dc:creator>forrest kimbrough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>under bush he waged a war on iraq and cut taxes spent billions. Just how dumb do you gotta be to wage a war and cut taxes for the rich.. and not one word from a republicans and spent his way into oblivion and all ditto heads can come up with is name calling...socialism ..do you actually know what socialism is? or just repeating rush drug addicted limbaugh and don&#039;t have a clue. you will all be retiring and getting a check from where ..do you know? so you can give up your retirement knowing that its sociolistic.... i doubt it. a little history for repubs who said this ...either your with us or your against us?  and he also did not want the public to see the bodies soldiers who fought and died because it brought down moral....this was said in 1939 by  Adoloph Hitler....sound fimiliar ditto heads</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>under bush he waged a war on iraq and cut taxes spent billions. Just how dumb do you gotta be to wage a war and cut taxes for the rich.. and not one word from a republicans and spent his way into oblivion and all ditto heads can come up with is name calling&#8230;socialism ..do you actually know what socialism is? or just repeating rush drug addicted limbaugh and don&#8217;t have a clue. you will all be retiring and getting a check from where ..do you know? so you can give up your retirement knowing that its sociolistic&#8230;. i doubt it. a little history for repubs who said this &#8230;either your with us or your against us?  and he also did not want the public to see the bodies soldiers who fought and died because it brought down moral&#8230;.this was said in 1939 by  Adoloph Hitler&#8230;.sound fimiliar ditto heads</p>
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		<title>By: Don Rhudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Rhudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wonderful column!  If I wasn&#039;t so old I&#039;d propose to Claudia.  There&#039;s no doubt about Democrats.  They&#039;re America&#039;s real Communist or Nazi Party, and they&#039;ve finally found a personable leader.  A radical &quot;Saul Alinsky&quot; socialist.  Once I became politically senscient, I&#039;ve always thought that there are two kinds of Democrats: the ones who know they are socialists and the ones who don&#039;t.  Many of them actually believe they are Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful column!  If I wasn&#8217;t so old I&#8217;d propose to Claudia.  There&#8217;s no doubt about Democrats.  They&#8217;re America&#8217;s real Communist or Nazi Party, and they&#8217;ve finally found a personable leader.  A radical &#8220;Saul Alinsky&#8221; socialist.  Once I became politically senscient, I&#8217;ve always thought that there are two kinds of Democrats: the ones who know they are socialists and the ones who don&#8217;t.  Many of them actually believe they are Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: SukieTawdry</title>
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		<dc:creator>SukieTawdry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 03:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just Canada, but much of the developed world is in for a rude awakening if the US isn&#039;t able to, or won&#039;t, maintain its superpower status. The world is in for a rude awakening if the profit motive is restrained, or removed, from tech development, especially in its drug and medical segments. There many rude awakenings to be had if America doesn&#039;t struggle on with its grand experiment. Of what value will we be to the rest of the world when we&#039;re just like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just Canada, but much of the developed world is in for a rude awakening if the US isn&#8217;t able to, or won&#8217;t, maintain its superpower status. The world is in for a rude awakening if the profit motive is restrained, or removed, from tech development, especially in its drug and medical segments. There many rude awakenings to be had if America doesn&#8217;t struggle on with its grand experiment. Of what value will we be to the rest of the world when we&#8217;re just like them.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsweek is engaging in the type of liberal wishful-thinking passing for political analysis,that has led their magazine toward imminent extinction!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsweek is engaging in the type of liberal wishful-thinking passing for political analysis,that has led their magazine toward imminent extinction!</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m becoming more and more convinced that the right has absolutely no idea what socialism is. To them it&#039;s merely a scary word they through about aimlessly at their enemy. It&#039;s the hip version of &quot;commie&quot; or &quot;pinko&quot;. The stimulus plan is not, I repeat NOT, socialism.

To anyone who actually looks at his record Obama is not &quot;the most liberal sitting politician&quot; but in fact one of the most centrist democrats out there. I wish people would actually live in a make decisions decision based on facts and stop treating our country like a big high school football game between the Dems and Reps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m becoming more and more convinced that the right has absolutely no idea what socialism is. To them it&#8217;s merely a scary word they through about aimlessly at their enemy. It&#8217;s the hip version of &#8220;commie&#8221; or &#8220;pinko&#8221;. The stimulus plan is not, I repeat NOT, socialism.</p>
<p>To anyone who actually looks at his record Obama is not &#8220;the most liberal sitting politician&#8221; but in fact one of the most centrist democrats out there. I wish people would actually live in a make decisions decision based on facts and stop treating our country like a big high school football game between the Dems and Reps.</p>
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		<title>By: gui</title>
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		<dc:creator>gui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Capitalist Manifesto
                           by Guy Viviers (gui)
 
This is an open letter to every capitalist in the USA. It is expected
that every enemy of capitalism who reads this will howl with outrage
and if we&#039;re lucky their heads will also explode.
 
                         Who are the capitalists?
 
The country is almost equally divided between capitalists and the enemies
of capitalism. The enemies of capitalism call themselves many fancy names
which are designed to make them feel sophisticated and important: they are
the leftists, the marxists, the socialists, the communists, the liberals,
the progressives, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Their primary trait is that
they expect someone else to provide all their wants and needs. Another
trait, which I personally find detestable, is that they never participate
in the defense of the nation.
 
The main traits of the capitalist are self-sufficiency and hard work. The
capitalist sees the USA as the greatest place that has ever existed in the
history of the world. Nowhere has there ever existed a place where anyone
who wants to work hard can make any dream come true.
 
It is well known that one half of the country pays for everything and the
other half gets a free ride. Care to guess which half the capitalists are
members of?
 
Someone came up with an apt analogy that says it all. In it, the country
is described as a wagon on a journey and some of the nation&#039;s people are
riding in the wagon and some of the people are pulling the wagon. Care to
guess who&#039;s pulling the wagon?
 
                      There was a war and we lost
 
The average capitalist has been working too hard to notice that capitalism
has been under a relentless and systematic attack for generations by the
enemies of capitalism and that every reign of power in this country is now
held by them.

For all intents and purposes the war is over, capitalism has been defeated.
Log onto any of the enemies web sites, or listen to the new president, and
you will see them crowing with delight at their victory. One of their
favorite phrases is &quot;We won. Get over it.&quot;
 
Face it. The Presidency, the House of Representatives, the Senate and half
of the Supreme Court are now under the control of the enemies of capitalism.
Make no mistake about it. They intend to hold onto these reigns forever. We
have become like the old USSR where one party holds all the power and makes
all the rules.

Our enemies will consolidate their hold on power by exercising the same
simple tactic that has gotten them to where they are now. That tactic is
to increase the number of people who are dependent on the government. They
intend to increase the number of people on the dole to such an extent that
it will be impossible for any capitalist to ever win any election ever
again. There is no legal way to prevent them from doing this.

                         What do we do now?
 
Having lost the ideological war, the capitalists now have a choice to
make. Do we, the ones who create wealth and pay for everything, continue
to do so while higher and higher percentages of our wealth are confiscated
by our enemies for the sole purpose of buying the very votes that keep
them in power? Do we, the ones who &quot;toil in the traces&quot;, continue to pull
the ever expanding and overwhelmingly heavy wagon that is our nation, while
at the same time we are incessantly taunted, and jeered at, and whipped by
the ones who ride?
 
We can continue to toil, maybe in the hope that someday some of the riders
will change their minds and become proud self-sufficient men and join us,
or maybe we will just continue to pull, even though we are being whipped,
because pulling is all we know.
 
We can also choose to lay our burden down my fellow capitalists. We can
choose to stop pulling their damn wagon. We can force the able bodied wagon
riders to have to start fending for themselves. We can bring our political
enemies to their knees. We can use the same tactic that is used by our
enemies whenever they want to extort our wealth. We can go on strike until
our demands our met.
 
                         What are our demands?
 
Our demands are simple. We must destroy the ability of our enemies to
confiscate our wealth for the purpose of buying votes. We do this by forcing
them to enact two simple pieces of legislation. One, if you choose to ride
in the wagon instead of pulling your fair share of the load, you forfeit
your right to vote. Two, everyone who works pays income tax and everyone
pays the same exact percentage.
 
                         Why even bother to fight?
 
I must admit that I have worked very hard my entire life and I have 
prospered beyond my wildest dreams and I have lived way beyond the age
that I ever thought I would see and I have accumulated enough wealth
that, even though our enemies will ruin what we have created, I will
still survive. So, even though the war is lost, why would I bother to
try to fight them? Why waste my precious time?
 
I choose to fight them in honor of the millions of men who have died
so that we might live in the greatest society that mankind has ever
created. If it were not for them we would have been enslaved long ago.

It breaks my heart to think of them and their sacrifices while at the
same time seeing in my mind all the jeering thumb-sucking wagon riders
who think the wagon pullers owe them a good living simply because they
draw a breath.
 
                 Dear God, Let not their deaths be in vain.
                              Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Capitalist Manifesto<br />
                           by Guy Viviers (gui)</p>
<p>This is an open letter to every capitalist in the USA. It is expected<br />
that every enemy of capitalism who reads this will howl with outrage<br />
and if we&#8217;re lucky their heads will also explode.</p>
<p>                         Who are the capitalists?</p>
<p>The country is almost equally divided between capitalists and the enemies<br />
of capitalism. The enemies of capitalism call themselves many fancy names<br />
which are designed to make them feel sophisticated and important: they are<br />
the leftists, the marxists, the socialists, the communists, the liberals,<br />
the progressives, etc, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Their primary trait is that<br />
they expect someone else to provide all their wants and needs. Another<br />
trait, which I personally find detestable, is that they never participate<br />
in the defense of the nation.</p>
<p>The main traits of the capitalist are self-sufficiency and hard work. The<br />
capitalist sees the USA as the greatest place that has ever existed in the<br />
history of the world. Nowhere has there ever existed a place where anyone<br />
who wants to work hard can make any dream come true.</p>
<p>It is well known that one half of the country pays for everything and the<br />
other half gets a free ride. Care to guess which half the capitalists are<br />
members of?</p>
<p>Someone came up with an apt analogy that says it all. In it, the country<br />
is described as a wagon on a journey and some of the nation&#8217;s people are<br />
riding in the wagon and some of the people are pulling the wagon. Care to<br />
guess who&#8217;s pulling the wagon?</p>
<p>                      There was a war and we lost</p>
<p>The average capitalist has been working too hard to notice that capitalism<br />
has been under a relentless and systematic attack for generations by the<br />
enemies of capitalism and that every reign of power in this country is now<br />
held by them.</p>
<p>For all intents and purposes the war is over, capitalism has been defeated.<br />
Log onto any of the enemies web sites, or listen to the new president, and<br />
you will see them crowing with delight at their victory. One of their<br />
favorite phrases is &#8220;We won. Get over it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Face it. The Presidency, the House of Representatives, the Senate and half<br />
of the Supreme Court are now under the control of the enemies of capitalism.<br />
Make no mistake about it. They intend to hold onto these reigns forever. We<br />
have become like the old USSR where one party holds all the power and makes<br />
all the rules.</p>
<p>Our enemies will consolidate their hold on power by exercising the same<br />
simple tactic that has gotten them to where they are now. That tactic is<br />
to increase the number of people who are dependent on the government. They<br />
intend to increase the number of people on the dole to such an extent that<br />
it will be impossible for any capitalist to ever win any election ever<br />
again. There is no legal way to prevent them from doing this.</p>
<p>                         What do we do now?</p>
<p>Having lost the ideological war, the capitalists now have a choice to<br />
make. Do we, the ones who create wealth and pay for everything, continue<br />
to do so while higher and higher percentages of our wealth are confiscated<br />
by our enemies for the sole purpose of buying the very votes that keep<br />
them in power? Do we, the ones who &#8220;toil in the traces&#8221;, continue to pull<br />
the ever expanding and overwhelmingly heavy wagon that is our nation, while<br />
at the same time we are incessantly taunted, and jeered at, and whipped by<br />
the ones who ride?</p>
<p>We can continue to toil, maybe in the hope that someday some of the riders<br />
will change their minds and become proud self-sufficient men and join us,<br />
or maybe we will just continue to pull, even though we are being whipped,<br />
because pulling is all we know.</p>
<p>We can also choose to lay our burden down my fellow capitalists. We can<br />
choose to stop pulling their damn wagon. We can force the able bodied wagon<br />
riders to have to start fending for themselves. We can bring our political<br />
enemies to their knees. We can use the same tactic that is used by our<br />
enemies whenever they want to extort our wealth. We can go on strike until<br />
our demands our met.</p>
<p>                         What are our demands?</p>
<p>Our demands are simple. We must destroy the ability of our enemies to<br />
confiscate our wealth for the purpose of buying votes. We do this by forcing<br />
them to enact two simple pieces of legislation. One, if you choose to ride<br />
in the wagon instead of pulling your fair share of the load, you forfeit<br />
your right to vote. Two, everyone who works pays income tax and everyone<br />
pays the same exact percentage.</p>
<p>                         Why even bother to fight?</p>
<p>I must admit that I have worked very hard my entire life and I have<br />
prospered beyond my wildest dreams and I have lived way beyond the age<br />
that I ever thought I would see and I have accumulated enough wealth<br />
that, even though our enemies will ruin what we have created, I will<br />
still survive. So, even though the war is lost, why would I bother to<br />
try to fight them? Why waste my precious time?</p>
<p>I choose to fight them in honor of the millions of men who have died<br />
so that we might live in the greatest society that mankind has ever<br />
created. If it were not for them we would have been enslaved long ago.</p>
<p>It breaks my heart to think of them and their sacrifices while at the<br />
same time seeing in my mind all the jeering thumb-sucking wagon riders<br />
who think the wagon pullers owe them a good living simply because they<br />
draw a breath.</p>
<p>                 Dear God, Let not their deaths be in vain.<br />
                              Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Daily Blogger - Tuesday, February 17th, 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily Blogger - Tuesday, February 17th, 2009&#160;&#124;&#160;Jack&#8217;s Newswatch</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
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		<description>We are following almost in lockstep what Japan went through when their real estate/equity bubbles burst in the 90&#039;s.  the one bright spot i hold is that the LDP mishandling of the recession has resulted in a slow deterioration of their stranglehold on power.
I do believe that this overreach on the part of the Democrats will damage them for decades to come.  The stimulus will fail miserably and prolong the recession for years - the Dem&#039;s will not recover from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are following almost in lockstep what Japan went through when their real estate/equity bubbles burst in the 90&#8217;s.  the one bright spot i hold is that the LDP mishandling of the recession has resulted in a slow deterioration of their stranglehold on power.<br />
I do believe that this overreach on the part of the Democrats will damage them for decades to come.  The stimulus will fail miserably and prolong the recession for years &#8211; the Dem&#8217;s will not recover from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikielikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikielikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chip seiple got me thinking &gt;

I wish more American&#039;s and others around the world understood something very important. The United States of America is not and never was a democracy! In fact, Iraq is being shaped into a democracy (we have been doing that by force) and we never have been approaching one until recently - we&#039;re now on the same path in many ways. When W. or B.O get up and talk about our democracy it makes me sick! Idiots the whole lot.

Sad really. In a democracy we have no voice as individuals only a majority and a collective means will do as GOV dictates policy from a myopic viewpoint held up by special interest groups. Recent events attest to this form of reasoning. We were formed as a republic and it should stay that way. We have been educated out of that mindset though and have an extremely confused populace -

We need to get back to the sound principles of the Republic for which it stands and do some butt kicking folks! Hayek was correct in almost all of his assessments. U.N.less we get aggressive folks we&#039;re going to sink into a most dreadful state - much the same as Germany did not so long ago. Cringe.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chip seiple got me thinking &gt;</p>
<p>I wish more American&#8217;s and others around the world understood something very important. The United States of America is not and never was a democracy! In fact, Iraq is being shaped into a democracy (we have been doing that by force) and we never have been approaching one until recently &#8211; we&#8217;re now on the same path in many ways. When W. or B.O get up and talk about our democracy it makes me sick! Idiots the whole lot.</p>
<p>Sad really. In a democracy we have no voice as individuals only a majority and a collective means will do as GOV dictates policy from a myopic viewpoint held up by special interest groups. Recent events attest to this form of reasoning. We were formed as a republic and it should stay that way. We have been educated out of that mindset though and have an extremely confused populace -</p>
<p>We need to get back to the sound principles of the Republic for which it stands and do some butt kicking folks! Hayek was correct in almost all of his assessments. U.N.less we get aggressive folks we&#8217;re going to sink into a most dreadful state &#8211; much the same as Germany did not so long ago. Cringe&#8230;..</p>
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