When you’re done reading the Blagojevich complaint, with its attendant insights into Illinois politics, spare a thought for New York — where Caroline Kennedy wants a sit-down with Governor David Paterson, with the aim of claiming Hillary Clinton’s soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat.
Is there anything wrong with that picture?
Well, let’s imagine for a moment that it’s not New York State we’re talking about, but some province – call it the State of Banana — in some nameless republic rife with dynastic politics.
Here’s a sample of the politics:
Eight years ago, a Senate seat from the Banana State was won by the wife of a sitting president of the republic. That wife had never before resided in Banana State, but she bought a house there, campaigned with the aura and entourage accorded to a presidential spouse, and with one leap, winning her first elected office ever, she became a senator.
Riding a national political machine to re-election for a second term, that former first lady swiftly turned her Senate seat into a springboard for her own campaign for the presidency. She lost, but took a job in the new administration, leaving the governor of Banana State to appoint a replacement senator.
That governor was himself a replacement, due to the resignation of the elected governor, a crusading moralist caught in a prostitution scandal. As the replacement governor prepared to name a replacement senator, a former president’s daughter declared her interest in the Senate seat — which one of her uncles had won some 44 years earlier, and was using as a springboard for his own presidential run, after serving as attorney-general in his brother’s presidential administration. This former first daughter had recently worked on the campaign of the President-elect — an experience that awakened in her an appetite for politics – but she had reached the age of 51 with no direct experience of her own in public office. Nonetheless, another of her uncles, also a senator, was ready to endorse her for this leap to the Senate. So was the mayor of Big Plum (the biggest city in Banana State), who on his own turf had just succeeded in scrapping a two-term limit so he could run for a third term — which he justified as a way of offering people a broader choice (namely, himself).
That’s how it works in Banana Republics. Whatever Caroline Kennedy’s native abilities, celebrity mantle and political connections, if she thinks this is a good way for things to work in New York State, that alone is reason to worry about her qualifications for the job.
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Dec 16, 2008 - 1:14 am 2. Valerie:I suppose this means that hrc has made bho promise to keep her on for at least 4 years… It would be hard for hrc to reclaim her senate seat if a kennedy has taken over…
Dec 16, 2008 - 4:31 am 3. Perry:Rudy.
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:03 am 4. The Rosett Report » The Banana Republic of New York at Hillary Clinton On Best Political Blogs:[...] The Rosett Report » The Banana Republic of New York … with its attendant insights into Illinois politics, spare a thought for New York — where Caroline Kennedy wants a sit-down with Governor David Paterson, with the aim of claiming Hillary Clinton’s soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat. … [...]
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:10 am 5. Don:Dynastic Politics and cults of personality . . . works for North Korea, Chicago and Massachussetts, why not NY?
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:12 am 6. Steve Bourg:Thanks Claudia,
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:24 am 7. quasar:And it’s called “style” over “substance”. Style, name-recognition, and a big, fat “D” next to someone’s name is all most voters care about. Chances are that if the voter’s working in the private sector and wants to get ahead, he or she’d be hard-pressed to think of good reasons to vote for the “D”. I would doubt that Caroline Kennedy has any economic platform that would help the private sector in NY or the country as a whole. Same old liberal mantra is what she’s had drilled into her skull, I’d imagine.
C.Kennedy should curb her enthusiasm until she finds out what the Gov’s asking price is for the seat. He IS yet another confessed nookie monster!!
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:26 am 8. Jarhead91:On bright side, she is so devoid of meaningful experience she will accomplish precisely nothing.
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:41 am 9. Spider79:Of course of Caroline were a Republican Governer from Alaska she would be woefully unqualified to hold a Senate position. What a joke.
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:55 am 10. Adina:Claudia never minces words, and doesn’t worry about being PC in the Republic of the Banana States. Those who still believe that the most qualified will be the ones who lead, even in democratic nations,haven’t been paying attention.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:01 am 11. epb:It is one thing to witness such shenanigans emanating from countries like Hugo-land, where no sane person thinks that elections are open and fair. It is quite another when the truth rears its ugly head in so called democracies, where the powers that be scornfully eschew basic democratic norms.
Exactly, Jarhead91! Since when has experience mattered? We elected B. Hussein Obama, a man of mystery, w/ the thinnest of resumes, leader of the free world. He’s symbolism over substance, and so too Caroline.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:06 am 12. Moultrie:I predict that after Ms Kennedy obtains the NY Senate seat she will began her Presidential Campaign and like BHO & HRC will not spend more than 15% of her valuable time on work for the Citizens of NY.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:15 am 13. Mike:Who cares! Give it to Bernie Maddow. He would fit right in.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:19 am 14. Mike:——————————————
By the way, I hope all you rich liberals out there are going to pay a bunch of taxes because Joe Biden said it’s your patriotic duty to do so and I am waiting for my share of the free stuff Obama promised me.
Correction to #12 above: I meant Bernie Madoff.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:22 am 15. Karin:—————————————-
By the way, I hope all you rich liberals out there are going to pay a bunch of taxes because Joe Biden said it’s your patriotic duty to do so and I am waiting for my share of the free stuff Obama promised me.
I’m in NY, and this pisses me off. You know what drives me crazy, is these pundits and so forth are on the TV saying “Oh, she’d make an excellent senator, blah, blah, blah.” They never give a supporting arguement of why that would be. Same old BS of “it’s true because I say it’s true.” Well, that’s not good enough for me.
My pick would be Rudy. Do I get a voice, since I’m in New York? Not a chance.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:26 am 16. atlargeinohio:These aren’t just bananas we’re talking about here, folks. These are Kennedy bananas. (This is the cue for everyone’s eyes to glaze over as memories of Camelot come rushing over our minds). What is Camelot? Well, forget the stuff you read about King Arthur-this Camelot is another long-in-the-tooth fairy tale that goes on and on like a Never-Ending Story on meth.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:27 am 17. misanthropicus:Experience! Competence! Track record! Integrity! Past associations! Those are all gone baby - now it’s the times of sense of mission, of fulfilling one’s journey, of listening then sharing, of adding another chapter to one’s narrative, of transformational leaders.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:37 am 18. Valerie:I’d name this age in America’s politics the age of Oprah Winfrey: inspirational leaders informing fawning & grateful crowds about their (own) diet problems - earth shattering confessions to be inscribed on Mount Rushmore.
Take a look around, and notice which schools these people attended. Do we really want the entire country run by Harvard?
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:42 am 19. Repubtallygirl:I wonder how much she is paying for the Senate seat.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:14 am 20. Instapundit » Blog Archive » MICHAEL SILENCE: The Nothing But Caroline Network: “Clearly, NBC Nightly News is running the U.S. …:[...] UPDATE: Claudia Rosett on Caroline Kennedy and the Banana Republic of New York: [...]
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:15 am 21. SUS:The sad thing is, no one in New York cares. Having a Kennedy as senator is no different than having a Clinton or a Cuomo. They are all the same.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:27 am 22. MarkD:I loathe Andrew Cuomo’s politics, but he’d be a far better Senator than little miss muffet. What’s she done, ever?
Yes, she hasn’t crashed a plane or skied into a tree or drowned anyone in her car, but that’s true of everyone I ever knew. She may stand out among the Kennedy clan, but that makes her normal at best.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:38 am 23. EL Rider:Let’s not forget that this woman’s father captured the Presidency with the help of vote fraud committed by the parent’s of Blagojevich’s associates. She is famous because of Chicago vote fraud.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:43 am 24. NCBob:Not so fast! She’ll have to submit her bid and have her credit checked just like everyone else who wants to buy the appointment from Governor Paterson. NYC pols are as greedy and corrupt as Chicago pols, but they know not to talk in tapped ‘phones.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:47 am 25. Percy Dovetonsils:The bidding is going way up; Charlie Rangel is entitled to a piece (but everyone knows that).
Hey, somebody has to keep the seat warm for Chelsea Clinton.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:48 am 26. Mad, Demented, Disabled Sociopath to Appoint Senator [Dan Collins]:[...] Related: When you’re done reading the Blagojevich complaint, with its attendant insights into Illinois politics, spare a thought for New York — where Caroline Kennedy wants a sit-down with Governor David Paterson, with the aim of claiming Hillary Clinton’s soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat. [...]
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:48 am 27. jt:Hey, she lived in the White House. That “experience” qualified Hillary to be a senator and a presidential candidate.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:56 am 28. Rosemarie Young:As an American living abroad I am having a hard time understanding what is going on in the US. First Illinois, now New york… I am a democrat but unless Caroline Kennedy proves she has the proper qualifications were she to become the New York senator I will have a hard time accepting it. A cynical European friend told me that Obama had chosen Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State to have an empty seat in the senate for Caroline Kennedy! The speculations are just beginning.
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:11 am 29. The Wizard:Ms. Kennedy might be smart, attractive and well meaning, however she is a debutant/socialite with no political experience and a total lack of understanding with regards to the issues of New York state. We need a Senator that will be an advocate of all of New York’s citizens, not just the Upper East Side and the Hampton’s — we have Chuckie Schumer for that. I sense she feels an entitlement because she is a Kennedy….is this some deal structured by Teddy, if he supported Obama? Enough dynasties - we need committed men and women who understand the issues; NY has huge problems, with more to come. I question if the woman even knows anything about New York beyond Westchester County. Hillary was enough - and she did little, if anything for NY state….it was her “road to the White House”, period.
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:34 am 30. D Palmer:jt,
My thoughts exactly. I’m a lucky citizen of Illinois, so who I am to criticize, but the New Yorkers who elected a woman who had never even served on a school board simply because she was the wife of an outgoing POTUS have no right to whine about Caroline Kennedy expressing interest in HRC’s senate seat.
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:39 am 31. Jim:Caroline K, Fran Drescher (announced on Larry King) (and SHE’s talked to Senators before, so we KNOW she’s qualified). Just to be fair, how about Eliot Spitzer? Or even better, how about Roger Clemens?? He PITCHED for the NY Yankees, has traveled all around the country, actually lived in NY for awhile, and he has extensive experience with TV apperances on Capitol Hill! As a last resort, I’ve been in NY many times since the ‘64 World’s Fair, and my wife says I drive like a New Yorker, so I’m prepared to throw my hat in the ring. You gotta love this new Democratic Party . . .
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:43 am 32. maurice:Well, you know what they say:
If you can fake it there you can fake it anywhere.
I heart NY…
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:50 am 33. Dr. Frank Lippenheimer:She has gone to all the right schools, I assume.
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:57 am 34. penny:We live in an age of utter frivolousness, thanks to the vacuous media and our dumbed down schools, and with the increasing corruption that follows.
We are in a severe financial crisis in a very unstable world and Caroline Kennedy, a trust fund socialite, is the best talent and experience to serve us at this time? It’s all so utterly stupid to even be considering.
As the economy tanks and it gets real personal with people let’s hope that voters can next round get their heads screwed on again and start demanding qualified people to represent us. Unfortunately things are going to have to get pretty bad before the tide turns.
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:03 am 35. Heather:Heck, jt–she has JFK’s DNA. Who needs experience when you have DNA?
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:03 am 36. Heather:Just to be fair, how about Eliot Spitzer? Or even better, how about Roger Clemens??
They have Y-chromosomes. Automatic disqualification.
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:05 am 37. cfbleachers:I honestly don’t care much whether Caroline is appointed to the seat. It is clear that the votes are going to be pretty much identical, no matter which insider is chosen.
And New York certainly can’t humiliate itself any more than Minnesota or Illinois has in the manner in which the Senate seat is being filled by our “betters” on the political spectrum.
In terms of qualifications for the position, I’m not sure where one would place Al Franken vs. Caroline and say…Jesse Jackson, Jr.
Democrats in the middle of stealing a seat, inheriting a seat and buying a seat in arguably our most “august” body, designed to be self-governing through elected representation.
In the fairyland of left of center politics where bribery isn’t bribery if you can get the Tribune Company and its merry band of like minded thieves to tip you off before your offer solidifies. Where some daddy’s can get away with extortion, in the game of victimization. Where some families can get away with rape, bootlegging and even murder…but that’s all water under the bridge.
Where sexual harassment is the woman’s fault, if you come from the correct side of the political spectrum and have ascended to “leftist royalty”. The rules simply do not apply.
And, the media in your pocket will have an open and notorious double standard as it applies to anyone who does not reside well to the left of center.
You see when you have principles of convenience, when the truth doesn’t matter, when the “message” is more important than the truth…it really doesn’t matter who occupies the seat or how they got there.
Frankly, I think Caroline is less offensive than many of the other choices who would all vote the same way, anyway. In a land where all the puppets play the same role, what difference does a name make? Steal, inherit or bribe? Welcome to the new Democratic Party.
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:19 am 38. ed:What’s Sonny Bono got to do with this argument? On a lighter note, with adorable Caroline and the rat-faced comedian from Minn in the Senate, watching the blowhards the next few years should be better than anything on the TV networks.
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:37 am 39. Dotar Sojat:Remember, this is the party that elected a Senator in Washington state with no more qualification than that she was a “mom in tennis shoes.”
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:39 am 40. Robert Hurley:She is intelligent, doesn’t need the position, doesn’t owe anything to ayone, and is liberal in her philosophy. NY could do a hell of lot worse. We are not a meritocracy. Names do count for something whether is in getting into a first rate college or getting yoru first job. Thta is a fact of life. It is what you do with your advatages that count
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:52 am 41. jedrury:New York has prostituted itself for years. It loves celebrities.
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:56 am 42. J.Griffith:It fawns over them, Its raison d’etre is celebrity vacuousness.
Start with Bobby over Ken Keating, then HRC, now Princess Caroline. It takes no brains to be in the US Senate; look at Joe Biden.
He rose to its heights on bombast and longevity, and then leaped
to the Vice Presidency on the claim of foreign policy experience.
With Teddy soon to be forgotten, this country’s media hungers for continuation of America’s royal family. What would Matt and Katie and Wolf and Chris do without them?
Please don’t blame New York,unfortunately the lemmings in the “big apple” vote in lockstep and do override the balance of the state.The Kennedy legacy,Joe-no support for Britain aghainst Hitler in WWll,JFK-broken promise, let “patriots” hang out to dry in Bay of Pigs invasion,need I mention Mary Jo Kopeckne?
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:57 am 43. Martge:What I can’t understand is why does she think she is entitled to this position? There are plenty of individuals out there who have famous names should they get.
Why not Lindsey Lohan, Paris Hilton they have famous names and would really brighten up that old senate chamber.
I am so appalled that she could even be considered. She has never ran for office, she has never done anything political - except support the egotistic obama. But I suppose she thinks that make her eligible.
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:00 am 44. deguello:Please do not compare NYC to so called banana republics. The comparison is grossly unfair to every tin pot latin american dictator,corrupt functionary, and criminal.Never has a baanana republic approached the level of theft, corruption and inefficiency,that characterizes New York. What latin American criminal can be compared to Wall street’s camarilla of grand larceny?And new yorkers look down on the rest of the nation? What scum!
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:09 am 45. deguello:What has she done with her advantages Hurley?Shill for her murdering drunken uncle?Utter banalities at charity events? The fact that we are not a meritocracy but a plutocracy, where rich mediocrities like Caroline, can become viable senatorial candidates, explains why the USA is on its way to becoming a worse version of a banana republic.SEE ABOVE
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:14 am 46. bobby b:“Style, name-recognition, and a big, fat “D” next to someone’s name is all most voters care about.”
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If you’re not some centrist, wishy-washy, “taxes-are-evil-but-oh-those-poor-cute-dying-polar-bears!” voter of attractive momentary causes, you likely notice after each election that, even having taken individual candidates and their character and beliefs into consideration, your votes are grouped into mostly D or mostly R.
So, I’d agree with your first two criteria, but I’d plead guilty myelf, along with most sincerely-interested voters, to the third.
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:15 am 47. bobby b:“Heck, jt–she has JFK’s DNA. Who needs experience when you have DNA?”
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It was kind of creepy, sitting in that old mayo jar on the fireplace mantle, but I thought she crossed an important line when she started carrying it to rallies and banquets.
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:23 am 48. Senator Caroline? « Likelihood of Success:[...] Similarish thoughts here, via here. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)They’re your friends, JoeIs there [...]
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:27 am 49. Bill Perron:Does anyone have the Governors phone number ? I’d like to give him a call and let him know I’m available to serve in the New York senate, my qualifications are just as good as the Kennedy chicks.
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:30 am 50. Cap'n Dan:I don’t know why anyone is surprised by any of this. I grew up in the northern wilds of New York State, far enough from Albany and the city to allow detachment. New York is still a state where the patricians rule. It began with the old Dutch and English families of the 17th century. The Roosevelts had their way for many years. When I was a kid it was understood that Rockefeller would be Governor for as long as he chose. Now it’s Hillary, and being the wife of Bill was enough to guarantee her anything she wanted. That Caroline can claim the seat if she chooses is a logical extension of the Patrician mindset that flows through the entire history of the state.
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:35 am 51. Saltherring:So what if Caroline has to ante up for a senate seat? It’s already a Kennedy family tradition. Her grandfather, Joseph P. Sr., bought and sold politicians with dirty money from his bootlegging empire. I’m certain there’s enough in the Kennedy off-shore trusts for Caroline.
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:44 am 52. always right:44. deguello@Dec 16, 2008 - 10:14 am
What has she done?…
Fixed your question for you. No charge.
What exactly has she done? Why, came out way early in the Dem primaries to support BHO (instead of ‘fellow’ HRC) with her clan chief, of course.
The token VP selection committee was just that, the Biden pick DID NOT sink. This is PAY-BACK time, with appreiciations.
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:07 am 53. HappyPick:Why doesn’t Ms. Caroline Kennedy Schlusberg use her legal name? She is married to a man named Schlusberg, so how can she excuse omitting her legal name? Politics? Uncle Ted?
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:16 am 54. Robert Hurley:deguello - I am not sure what you proved except that you hate the Kennedys. I have no dog in this fight since I do not live in NY. If she is appointed, we can all judge her performance and then the NY voters can vote her up or down based on that.
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:23 am 55. Pope Linus:Speaking as a New Yorker born and bred, we deserve a Kennedy. We’re the ones dumb enough to believe that our politicians will be able to save us from ourselves.
The real tragedy for this state–which I love, by the way–is that Western NY, the more conservative area of the state, is the portion that is shrinking the fastest, meaning that any conservative counterbalance (as anemic as it has been) is shrinking in this state. It makese sens that, demographically speaking, we’ll continue to be represented by downstate millionaire socialists.
And to top it all off, our state budget deficit is expected to triple to close to $15 billion, and Governor Hans Moleman (D-N.Y.) is pledging to raise taxes on clothing, soda, cigarettes, etc. Let the good times roll…right out of the state.
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:26 am 56. zanne:Looks like Obama’s helping wounds heal.. “so sorry about my friend Bill Ayers and his dedication to S. H. in his book”…now all is good.
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:27 am 57. Pope Linus:I hate to say it Cap’n Dan, but you’re right. It’s a patrician class tightening the noose on us all. At least there are a few of us sane folk left.
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:28 am 58. deguello:Hurley:I’m not sure what you proved either, except for implying that it’s ok for upper-class twits to lord it over us.As for Ted, AKA “the swimmer”,’course I hate him,he left a young woman to drown in his car;why don’t YOU hate him?
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:45 am 59. And You Thought Chicago Was A Corrupt Bastion of Cronyism… « The Forum:[...] in the Democrat party despite the cry of hope and change.
Dec 16, 2008 - 12:12 pm 60. Paul From Hamburg:Robert Hurley:
Dec 16, 2008 - 12:23 pm 61. Julie:Thank you. I waited all day. I knew you would eventually step forward to defend this wonderful idea.
Let’s look at how this could benefit all the parties involved:
1. Barack Obama: He would get to keep his Senate vote.
2. Caroline Kennedy: She would have fun pretending to be important.
3. David Paterson: He gets a wealthy senator and the president to campaign for him in 2010.
4. Residents of New York: We get the sublime satisfaction of knowing that we are represented by a wise and benevolent member of the Kennedy family.
To all you nay-sayers, I say don’t worry. I am reasonably sure that Caroline is smart enough to eventually learn that the New State Thruway does run west of Albany.
Caroline is a Democrat….need I say more?? This IS the criteria to get what you want, no matter what State of the Union you’re from. Being a Democrat, just like Dufus Obama, means never having to prove anything, i.e place of birth, experience, incidental stuff like that. Yes we can……run over anyone or anything (Constitution) to get what we want. The MSN will see to it that the “Cloned Democrats” agree. Duh!!!!
Dec 16, 2008 - 12:44 pm 62. rob in houston:She can’t even make the claim to be looking out for the common man. Princesses only do that in fairy tails. It would be more stupid rules for thee and not for me. Tax your earnings and leave my wealth alone..
Dec 16, 2008 - 12:45 pm 63. Rubicon:With the announcement that Caroline Kennedy is seeking the now vacant New York State United States Senate seat, reality has finally come home to roost. Lets face it folks, the approval rating of the entire Congress is even lower than that of George Bush, the so-called “compassionate” conservative. Bush is neither compassionate (think Ramos & Compean prosecutions & failures to pardon or commute), nor is he conservative (think No Child Left Behind {authored by Ted Kennedy BTW}, immigration amnesty, huge expenditures for almost everything, new huge government department bureaucracies {such as the ever competent DHS w/ its FEMA subsidiary}, and so many more non conservative activities), and then you realize Bush is just a global corporatist who has enabled the slow demise of this nation.
Dec 16, 2008 - 12:49 pm 64. Frank:Caroline may be a very nice person & have all the good intentions anyone could ever have. However, she has absolutely no governing experience at all. She has never run for elected office or answered to the voters who elected her. She has no legitimate hold on the appointment. She is a Kennedy & apparently she thinks that alone entitles her to that Senate seat.
The sense of entitlement many of America’s social & political elite have, has become rampant & now reflects the disdain they have for average American citizens. She & others like her feel it is they & they alone who should decide anything & everything for this nation since the “people” cannot be trusted to make good decisions. Apparently, the people are too stupid.
No matter which state… no elected official should be able to appoint any other person to an office which the people have not voted on. The pandering, the corrupt backstabbing & scratching, the illegal monetary exchanges, the “deals” cut between so called “representatives” for favors & other remuneration’s, represent the despicable side of politics.
No appointed member’s of Congress. Let voters decide. Let there be special elections & let candidates put their messages out for the people to decide who will represent them for any term left to another’s Congressional seat. Anyone in Congress by “appointment” does not “REPRESENT” “THE PEOPLE.” They represent the special interest that pulled strings to get them their cushy job with lifetime benefits that average Americans will never see. If she is unwilling to run for the office, then she is totally unqualified to stand in the office.
Its “OUR” country! It is not the country of just elite’s & social activist community organizer do-gooders, w/ money & connections!
I was going to say a thing or two about Caroline Kennedy, and indeed her entire clan, but it turns out there is no possible way for me to keep it free of profanity and vulgarity, as both are necessary to describe the inherent character of Mrs. Kennedy and her entire (living) clan.
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:05 pm 65. John Burke:Check out my blog comment at:
http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2008/12/dame-caroline-deigns-to-represent-us.html
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:16 pm 66. John G.:http://theforumblog.wordpress.com/2008/12/16/and-you-thought-chicago-was-a-corrupt-bastion-of-cronyism/
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:25 pm 67. Saltherring:Caroline is not a Democrat, but in fact a socialist, as are most old-money liberals. And of course, they can afford to be socialists because they do not earn wages, which are subject to taxation. Hence when they sole out working people’s tax dollars to the indolent, it means very little.
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:40 pm 68. Robert Hurley:Paul from hamburg - is that Germany or NY? I guess if you are not from NY, you really won’t have a say. It does give you an excuse to spout agains the Kennedys. Is it Kennedy you are opposed to or really her liberal politics. I would be for her if I lived in NY and thought she would be effective in supporting Obama’s policies. Since I don’t live in NY, I would leave it up to the voters
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:44 pm 69. Robert Hurley:deguello - I don’t hate anyone. I thought that is what I am called to do as a Catholic
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:45 pm 70. cedarford:Trooper York said…
I think it is a great idea to name the daughter of a famous celebrity who we know will really fight for New York and be very very effective. She is comfortable on television and truely represents a New York Spirit. She comes from a family deeply familiar with the ins and outs of several key New York businesses. From a family of fighters blessed with Kennedy-like “teflon”.. She has just as much experience as Caroline, actually sold more books she has written.
Victoria Gotti for Senator.
My motto? Caroline Kennedy - At least she’s better than her cousin Bobby Jr., better than Geraldo.
J.Griffith:
The Kennedy legacy,Joe-no support for Britain aghainst Hitler in WWll,JFK-broken promise, let “patriots” hang out to dry in Bay of Pigs invasion,need I mention Mary Jo Kopeckne?
Half of America was isolationist prior to Pearl Harbor. 3/4ths of the rest who supported involvement did not want a major commitment…remembering that the US probably saved itself a million dead and million maimed by delaying it’s entry into WWI and then only going in with less than the full assets we could have brought to bear. Even the Jewish community was sharply divided in America, expecially by the Progressive Jews coalition of communists, socialists, and Soviet-philes seeking to honor the wishes of Comrade Stalin for America to stay out after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact was signed.
Within the family though, Joe Kennedy and JFK signed up before Pearl Harbor. Kathleen Kennedy lost her husband, a British pilot, back in 1940. Joe Kennedy was a bona-fide war hero, he stayed to volunteer for a high-risk mission, even though he had flown enough combat missions to earn him the right to go home. He died, and won the Navy Cross (only below the Medal of Honor in significance, and the Distinguished Flying Cross.)
As for the Bay of Pigs, it was the CIA’s idea, approved by Eisenhower. Like with Iraq, the US was bamboozled by Exiles who asserted they would be “Welcomed as liberators”. They weren’t. They were out-fought by the Cubans and the people did not rally to them. Sending the American forces in after the Exiles failed would be seen as naked imperialism, much as Soviet troops charging into Hungary to suppress self-determination was seen by the Euros. JFK was right to cut his losses in that major fiasco.
As for Teddy - well, like Laura Bush, he screwed up and accidentally killed somebody in a car crash. The difference, which he was never forgiven for - was that his privilege allowed him to legally get away with it and stay in the Senate seat, which he also only got on his family name. But the old lush - unlike anyone else - was never allowed to move past Chapaquiddick. 40 years it has dogged him and he confided to someone back in the 90s that no matter what he did, the black cloud would follow him to the grave and be the “Yes, he did a lot…But…Mary Jo..” epitaph.
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:48 pm 71. vivo:Caroline for Senator?
She’s a cutie.
That’s enough for me.
I love my Banana Republic!
I mean it, that was not a pun.
Dec 16, 2008 - 1:51 pm 72. Robbins Mitchell:Well isn’t this just too,too precious?….Nazi Joe’s grandtwinkie wants to be a US Senator…and since the only thing that really matters is letting her have a ‘fairy tale dream come true,the Governor really has no choice but to appoint her….Camelot redux
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:14 pm 73. Karin:Rubicon, ditto on the special elections. The way we’re doing things now is simply not a representative republic, which is what we’re supposed to be.
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:20 pm 74. actor212:Robert Hurley, your “names do count for something” comment raised my shackles. What country were you born in? Who among us doesn’t know a fine, upstanding citizen with a no-good slob of a kid or a horrible cretin for a father?
I know in light of the fact that Teddy Kennedy isn’t rotting in jail right now may prove you to be right, but it doesn’t make it right.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight, because, you know, the son of a President has never outdone his father in incompetency in THAT office, now has he?
No, we’ll just whiiiiiiiiiiiiine about the surviving sibling of an assassinated President from forty years ago…
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:30 pm 75. Ann:I really can’t deal with mentions of Camelot. Anyone who has read about (or lived through, as I did) those years, knows that JFK was a sleazeball womanizer of the first order. He had staff working on a schedule to provision him with women, particularly when Jackie was out of town. He was not that great a president and he certainly didn’t have any more to recommend him personally than bambi does. (Although he had better hair.) Sick to death of Camelot, the Clintons and already of the Obamas. What a joke.
I’m really have a hard time caring a hoot about Madoff’s mess either. I just think it’s funny as all get out that all those greedy, greedy people lost everything. Our personal finances are very very stable: our income is precisely the same as it was before (Social Security, small pension and Home Depot). Our world is not trembling. Looking forward to a nice Christmas Eve at church, then opening simple gifts with family and eating peanut brittle. I never have envied “the rich”. You know what? Today they envy me. We’re at peace. All our bills are paid. The vehicles are running. The price of gas is down for the moment. Life is good.
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:33 pm 76. Fat Man:The only problem here is that the only qualifications for being a senator are being 30 years old, a US citizen for 9 years, and an inhabitant of the state at the time of election.
As near as I can tell you don’t even really have to be alive. Strom Thurmond was probably dead for most of his last two or three terms. Robert Byrd is probably dead as well.
You can be a complete idiot. Harry Reid is and he is Majority Leader. Or a drooling moron like Joe Biden. Or as dumb as Barbara Boxer, who is really, really stupid.
Hillary’s only qualification for being senator, other than being sanctimonious, was being married to a philanderer. Caroline Kennedy is just as qualified as almost all of the other senators. Just because she isn’t Daniel Patrick Moynihan, doesn’t make her unqualified.
The fact that she never ran for office before is in her favor. She might even be honest.
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:34 pm 77. boqueronman:With apologies to James Taranto, WSJ, when sought for her response to Caroline Kennedy’s possible selection for the HRC Senate seat, Mary Jo Kopechne was unavailable for comment.
Ted’s inexcusable delay in reporting the “screw up” should have immediately and permanently disqualified from holding any office of public trust.
Oh, also, when Laura Bush seeks a similar position I will consider her to be in the same category as the Tedster.
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:39 pm 78. J. Rockford:What a sorry farce this country has turned into. Our political system is practically third world. Where’s the outrage? Answer: the mainstream media doesn’t publish it.
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:52 pm 79. Paul From Hamburg:Robert Hurley:
“4. Residents of New York: We get the sublime satisfaction of knowing that we are represented by a wise and benevolent member of the Kennedy family.”
That word “we” might have been a clue that I am resident of New York.
Earlier you mentioned New York could “do worse” than Caroline. Is that really the point? Wouldn’t it be nice if Governor Paterson could honestly announce that he chose the best person to replace Hillary?
Dec 16, 2008 - 2:55 pm 80. Donna V.:Once again, Hurley has to drop by and explain things to the rest of us.
Sarah Palin is a ridiculous joke because she didn’t go to the right schools, attend the right cocktail parties or have the right pedigree. We might be able to overlook such serious flaws if she professed the right PC views, but she doesn’t. So she deserved to be mocked and marginalized.
But Caroline? Her last name alone - the holy name of Kennedy - qualifies her to rule America. Kneel down and pledge fealty to your betters, plebes!
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:09 pm 81. Therese:This is an outrage! The fact that the media and Democrats are so enthusiastic about Caroline Kennedy (who has never run for office or even held an elected office position) but ripped apart Governor Palin makes my blood boil!!!!!
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:14 pm 82. Ge0ffrey:Penetrating and delicious thinking.
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:37 pm 83. Yazzy:Two words…Mary Bono Mack…(sorry, three words)
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:38 pm 84. dgf:What was her experience prior to winning her late husband’s seat?
Caroline has grace and aura but I think Robert Hurley would also be an excellent candidate, if he could be persuaded. He’s so moderate and sensible. A first class temperment in the senate as well as in the White House would be such a boon to the nation.
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:44 pm 85. Jimbo:Makes you wonder what the sage of Chappaquiddick, old uncle Teddy, has promised the State of New York in return.
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:49 pm 86. Alex Bensky:Caroline Kennedy edited a volume of her mother’s favorite poems, and some of the selections were actually pretty good.
That’s pretty much her qualification but then again, Obama (and let it be said, Palin) don’t have a lot more.
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:52 pm 87. Robert Hurley:Oh poor Govenor Palin - She proved she was not ready for prime time. It was her own words that did her in. The verdict is stillout on Caroline Kennedy. I doubt if anyone here knows enough about her ability to really render judgment. Talking about the rest of the clan says nothing about her. Whether the Governor picks Ms Slossberg or not will not depend on anything that is said here. Deo Gratias
Dec 16, 2008 - 3:54 pm 88. Saltherring:Caroline likes the prospect of an uncontested appointment (coronation?) as she could never handle the backslapping, handshaking and baby kissing of a real campaign. All those unwashed peasants….and their germs…..
Dec 16, 2008 - 4:27 pm 89. D Palmer:Did I miss a press conference from Ms Kennedy wherein she stated that she deserved the seat? All I have seen is that she is interested and spoke to the Gov Patterson about it. I must have missed her expression of entitlement.
Why is everyone so outraged at her over this expression of interest? It offends you that she, a mere housewife with a famous name, should DARE to express interest in the seat previously held by a woman of such distinction and accomplishment. You know, the one whose major claim to fame was that she didn’t divorce her husband the POTUS when he was caught shtuping a 19-year-old white house intern and then lying about it. Definitely senate material in my book!
If Patterson should choose her then direct your outrage at him for choosing her not at her for asking for the job.
Dec 16, 2008 - 4:29 pm 90. Cybergeezer:From what I understand, this is the only way Democrats can keep their seats. And it’s easier than getting voted in.
Dec 16, 2008 - 4:33 pm 91. The Historian:NO ROYALTY NEED APPLY
The American system of government is built upon the will of the people, not celebrity elites:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/12/citizen-not-celebrity-legislators.html
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:15 pm 92. DISENCHANTED:Its not the mere fact that she has expressed interest, it is the media storm that pushes their agenda upon simpletons that atomatically accept her as “the one” that is best for them….Do you think if Joe/Jane Doe expressed interest that the media would dance for him/her?
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:59 pm 93. Kevin:Hey Robert Hurley,
I think your confusing Tina Fey with Sarah Palin. No bother. You have proven that you are uninformed like the rest of your sheeple.
ie. “You can see Russia from an small island in Alaska” Palin quote (Charlie Gibson interview. ABC). Factually correct. The two islands are: Big Diomede (Russia Territory); Small Diomede (Alaskan Territory) - The distance from the two islands is 2.5 miles.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:00 pm 94. DISENCHANTED:Jack: I agree with you on the experience thing. I believe in Congressional term limits. Just try mentioning that in a crowded room and see how it falls on deaf ears.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:07 pm 95. GK:So which are the worst states?
New York : Sex Scandals, nepotism, tax evasion
Illinois : Extreme corruption, radicals are mainstream
Ohio : GOP is hopeless there
California : A terribel budget (but no sex scandals, surprisingly)
Sheesh.
Dec 16, 2008 - 6:20 pm 96. Saltherring:I can add one to GK’s worst states list: The menopausal matriarchy that runs Washington State has driven it into virtual bankruptcy.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:09 pm 97. Dr. Lumplevin:Let’s face it. Even a grotesquely pretentious, half-educated, power-mad schlepper from a wealthy corrupt family of schleppers will be better than anyone else, especially, god forbid, a conservative Republican.
What we most deperately need need at this crucial crossroads of our national economic, political, and moral crisis that threatens our very existence as a nation is some one who can revive all the old euphoria and childlike wonderment of Camelot, even if it is a pathetic pipe dream for half-wits made of castles in the air. It gives us something to hope for.
Dec 16, 2008 - 7:45 pm 98. Typical White Person:Ala Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory…
Caroline Kennedy as Veruca Salt…Gov of NY as Mr. Salt.
I want the golden goose! I want it NOW!
—————————-
Veruca Salt:
Gooses! Geeses!
I want my geese to lay gold eggs for Easter
Mr. Salt:
It will, sweetheart
Veruca:
At least a hundred a day
Mr.Salt:
Anything you say
Veruca:
And by the way
Mr. Salt:
What?
Veruca:
I want a feast.
Mr. Salt:
You ate before you came to the factory
Veruca:
I want a bean feast!
Mr. Salt:
Oh, one of those
Veruca:
Cream buns and doughnuts and fruitcake with no nuts
So good you could go nuts
Mr. Salt:
You can have all those things when you get home
Veruca:
No, now!!
I want a ball
I want a party
Pink macaroons and a million balloons
And performing baboons and …
Give it to me
Rrhh rhhh
Now!
I want the world
I want the whole world
I want to lock it all up in my pocket
It’s my bar of chocolate
Give it to me
Now!
I want today
I want tomorrow
I want to wear ‘em like braids in my hair
And I don’t want to share ‘em
I want a party with room fulls of laughter
Ten thousand tons of ice cream
And if I don’t get the things I am after
I’m going to scream!
I want the works
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:05 pm 99. myth buster:I want the whole works
Presents and prizes and sweets and surprises
Of all shapes and sizes
And now
Don’t care how
I want it now
Don’t care how
I want it now
And people wonder why Mike Huckabee didn’t run for the Senate after losing his bid for the Republican Presidential Nomination. Running against one of those blue bloods like Senator Prior to get into that freak show they call the US Senate is a job nobody wants, which explains why no Republican ran against him.
What will be interesting is what will happen when Obama realizes he can’t please both the Clintons and the Kennedy clan.
Dec 16, 2008 - 8:43 pm 100. Jim C.:Great article, Claudia! A bullseye!
Rosemarie Young wrote, “A cynical European friend told me that Obama had chosen Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State to have an empty seat in the senate for Caroline Kennedy!”
VERY interesting! I’d bet that that was one consideration.
Dec 16, 2008 - 9:38 pm 101. The Other Illinois : The New Nixon: News and Commentary about the President, his Times, and his Legacy:[...] Claudia Rosett explains that we should take out eyes off Blago and Chicago, and take a look at New York where inheritance, coronation, and scrapping of city term limits reigns supreme. [...]
Dec 16, 2008 - 10:36 pm 102. Happy Pick:How come this gal won’t use her legal name? Is it because it’s Jewish? It’s something like Schlosberg - that’s close enough. Why is she hiding her legal name? If she’s going to step up to claim her rightful BirthRight, it shoud at least be in her legal name. “Cold Cash” Jefferson would be better as NY senator than this socialite.
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:04 pm 103. RF:There’s no better job than one that’s waiting for you…
Dec 17, 2008 - 12:04 am 104. Commentary » Blog Archive » Flotsam and Jetsam:[...] Claudia Rossett nails The Banana Republic of New [...]
Dec 17, 2008 - 6:03 am 105. Brian Richard Allen:Well said, Ms Rosett
Hear! Hear!
Brian Richard Allen
Dec 17, 2008 - 6:14 am 106. Karin:Los Angeles - CalifUBAMAcated 90028
D. Palmer sez:
“If Patterson should choose her then direct your outrage at him for choosing her”
Oh you betcha, I will. So should everyone else of like minds here, too. But beforehand.
Dec 17, 2008 - 7:03 am 107. B Dubya:Caroline, who sent you?
Dec 17, 2008 - 10:39 am 108. Peg C.:Go ask for the empty seat in Illinois. No more Kennedy dynasty in NYS, please.
I’ve lived in NY state for 13+ years and lived in CA for 31 years before that. I can’t figure out which state is worse. All I know is it’s made me the most conservative and politically incorrect person that has lived in both states, guaranteed.
Caroline Kennedy is the biggest zero next to Obama and Hillary that you can name. What is it with Democrats? Addled twits or dangerous and corrupt thugs. Unbelievable. Now we have to change our addresses to avoid download fees, shop out of state and give up theatrical movies (that one is easy; they’re all crap). This 88 new tax thing is breathtaking. I can hardly wait for Patterson to run for re-election.
We really do get the government we deserve - certainly true of NY’ers, Californians and Illinoisans.
Dec 17, 2008 - 10:44 am 109. OK Taylor:I keep hearing from both the ‘progressive’ coastal types and the MSM about how stupid my home people are in the reddest of red states. According to a majority of the jet set, we didn’t vote for Obama because (1) we’re racist; (2) we’re uneducated; (3) we’re unsophisticated; (4) we’re hillbilly rednecks by default Republican; (5) we’re gun toting cowboys; (6) we’re rabid fundies and holy rollers; (7) Any combination thereof.
But if we’re so dumb and the NY and CA type so smart as indicated by their voting patterns for Kennedys (Awnald S) and Clintons and Cuomos and Browns; and being invariably my state ranks almost dead last in every conceivable poll that sophisticates can dream up from health, to exercise, to illiteracy, to clothing accessory, to wine and cheese tasting; with NY and CA holding every conceivable advantage from history, to wealth, to power?
How come my little state seems to be
(1) operating in the black even during the financial crisis?
(2) the only polls where we ever seem to rank higher are happiness and charitable works, even though we’re poor and stupid?
These power states, of which my people are unworthy to shine the boots, and too dumb to subscribe to the New Yorker or Men’s Health Magazine? Why do these power broker states appear about “one brick removed” from crashing into the recesses of the deep?
Why is that Robert Hurley? You’ve always got such a profound answer.
Dec 17, 2008 - 12:48 pm 110. About Caroline Kennedy–UPDATED « Blog Entry « Dr. Melissa Clouthier:[...] Claudia Rosett on New York’s “Banana Republic.” [...]
Dec 17, 2008 - 1:03 pm 111. John:MarkD said: “Yes, she hasn’t crashed a plane or skied into a tree or drowned anyone in her car…”
Heck, Mark, she didn’t even rape someone in her family compound in Palm Beach. That alone qualifies her.
Dec 17, 2008 - 1:12 pm 112. Fat Man:Happy Pick: Ms. Kennedy may, like any American, conduct her affairs under whatever name she chooses, so long as the name is not adopted without intent to defraud. She may adopt her husband’s last name if she so chooses, but there is no requirement that she do so.
I am glad to see that you are just like her grandmother when it comes to questions of religion and ancestry.
Dec 17, 2008 - 1:17 pm 113. Jamal:Very fun article.
A bit about a rum-running granddad would have added a dash of holiday cheer also.
Dec 17, 2008 - 1:40 pm 114. Steynian 298 « Steeb Blog:[...] ENTITLEMENTED! When you’re done reading the Blagojevich complaint, with its attendant insights into Illinois [...]
Dec 18, 2008 - 6:33 am 115. Steynian 298 « Free Canuckistan!:[...] ENTITLEMENTED! When you’re done reading the Blagojevich complaint, with its attendant insights into Illinois [...]
Dec 18, 2008 - 6:37 am 116. Steynian 298:[...] ENTITLEMENTED! When you’re done reading the Blagojevich complaint, with its attendant insights into Illinois [...]
Dec 18, 2008 - 8:13 am 117. Therese:If they put Caroline Kennedy in the Senate, the Democrats will not be able to criticize Governor Sarah Palin without being laughed at. So, in this regards, I hope that they put Caroline Kennedy in the Senate.
Never have I seen someone who is so obviously not qualified for a position, get it “bequeathed” to them in the open.
The Democrats are getting bolder with their formation of an elite political class that tells the “media duped” voters what is best for them.
The fact that so many people in the country are going along with this is what makes this whole Caroline Kennedy thing even worse. What is happening to our country?
Dec 18, 2008 - 4:53 pm 118. zanne:I checked E-bay for the auction price. Nothing there. I want to bid.
Dec 18, 2008 - 9:51 pm 119. marymcl:Ted Kennedy didn’t just accidentally kill someone. He left Mary Jo Kopechne in the car, stumbled off and found his handlers and they spent the rest of the night figuring out how to spin it all successfully and save his career. Then they called for help.
He left her to die and made sure she had the time. To hell with him.
Dec 19, 2008 - 8:39 am 120. marymcl:That should’ve been Hell
Dec 19, 2008 - 8:41 am 121. janiegirl:Ms. Kennedy supports Planned Parenthood for doing this. Check it out.
A 31-year old rapes a 13-year old and PLANNED PARENTHOOD COVERS IT UP!?! this is filthy and entirely true I think..***http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTxsWZz9whg ***
Dec 19, 2008 - 4:09 pm 122. AOP:If she wants the seat, she can run for it. We ought to have special elections in Illinois and New York for the open seats.
-AOP
ageofpericles.blogspot.com
Dec 19, 2008 - 4:50 pm 123. John Burke:Dame Caroline’s presumption is breathtaking. Now, the New York Post reports, she hasn’t even voted in many primaries and elections. Some civic leader!
My take on her absurd contribution to turning the Senate into the House of Lords is here:
http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2008/12/dame-caroline-deigns-to-represent-us.html
and here:
http://thepurplecenter.blogspot.com/2008/12/caroline-kennedy-meets-with-syracuse.html
Dec 20, 2008 - 12:49 am 124. vivo:117. Therese:
“If they put Caroline Kennedy in the Senate, the Democrats will not be able to criticize Governor Sarah Palin without being laughed at.”
What would you say if the nominee was Sarah Palin?
Dec 20, 2008 - 4:29 am 125. susan:Vivo: member of densa
being a governor and a mayor without pushes from the kennedy family is already a lifetime achievement that losers like yourself cannot even comprehend
Dec 20, 2008 - 9:34 am 126. Cristina:# 40 Robert Hurley:
“She doesn’t need the position…”
Dec 20, 2008 - 11:34 am 127. Steynian 299 « Free Canuckistan!:Not very perceptive of you. You must be too young to understand the human soul: huge ambition, sense of entitlement, will to power. There’s no greater “need” and reward than power, and, in Caroline Kennedy’s case, that’s all she’s seen and lived. And she must bored out of her mind with life as a middle-aged socialite on the charity circuit. Not enough anylonger. Not real power.
[...] PJMEDIA: “The Banana Republic of New York” …. [...]
Dec 20, 2008 - 3:10 pm 128. Steynian 299:[...] PJMEDIA: “The Banana Republic of New York” …. [...]
Dec 20, 2008 - 3:14 pm 129. Don from ohio:I have no idea why anyone would be shocked at this. This is just an extension of the democratic way of doing things for the elite. NY deserves what they get as far as I am concerned. No wonder the Senate is so screwed up. Pretty soon, they will vote themselves “senator for life” and do away with the pretense of elections.
Dec 20, 2008 - 5:42 pm 130. Someone75:I think the “Banana Republic of New York” is necessary counter the “Racist South” and the “Inbred Appalachians.” It always struck me as ironic that the most heavily red states were also the most backwards.
Susan: I bet arguments like yours are really convincing against your father/brother, but us thinking people don’t buy it. Oh yeah, I went there
Dec 20, 2008 - 7:07 pm 131. Rhein Gold:Sweet Caroline brings nothing to the senate except name recognition and the possibility of raising money because of her name recognition. Sweet Caroline has no interest or contact with regular, normal Americans; you know, the people who get up early, work 8 or 10 hours, go home cook dinner look after the kids and go to bed early so they can do it all over again the next day. Sweet Caroline is as phony as her hero Obama.
Dec 20, 2008 - 8:56 pm 132. vivo:125. susan:
“Vivo: member of densa
being a governor and a mayor without pushes from the kennedy family is already a lifetime achievement that losers like yourself cannot even comprehend”
The difference in intellects is quite wide, but that’s something you don’t seem to comprehend. Have a cappuccino.
Dec 21, 2008 - 5:13 am 133. Mike:Just what we need… another carpetbagging celebrity using us New Yorkers as another rung on their resume
Dec 21, 2008 - 9:23 pm 134. Jack:She’ll be the next Senator from NY, and will make a fine one at that.
Dec 22, 2008 - 12:31 am 135. howell clark:ABOUT TIME THE CARPET BAGGERS WENT SOME PLACE OTHER THAN THE SOUTH. TWICE IN A ROW CAN WE GET A THIRD ONE PLEASE. POOR ROCKEFELLR HAD TO LEAVE AND SCREW UP WV BECAUSE OF A KENNEDY. CAN YOU RECALL HIM?
Dec 22, 2008 - 3:36 pm 136. Kosesh:Whine, whine, whine. Hillary was elected by the people of new york. They didn’t care that she was not from the state. She pleased them and six years later they re-elected her because they were happy with her. It is the right of the new yorkers to do this. Caroline is perhaps another story. In this particularly strange case, the law gives the unelected governor the right to appoint anyone he $*@! well pleases. Of course if he appoints an idiot, he certainly won’t get his position renewed. And if said idiot does a bad job, she won’t get her position renewed either. But this is the process, and no amount of whining about it is going to make a difference. So get over it. New yorkers will get their day at the ballot box to set things right.
So what are you trying to prove with this commentary? — that new yorkers are all morons? In fact, the electorate of all states are morons. Please tell me something I don’t know.
Dec 26, 2008 - 7:04 am