Comments on: Deceit

By: Ira Zad

Ira Zad — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 00:45:25 +0000

Why Bush Folded on Iran

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/07/31/iran/

Let’s go home, it’s all over for Iran.
This administration will be a despised one by left, and the right as well. A blot of shame in our foreign policy history.

By: Ira Zad

Ira Zad — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:22:06 +0000

Dan said: “That regime isn’t going anywhere, not unless we make it.”
I agree wholeheartedly and completely. The wishful thinkers in the west who dream about an internal uprising toppling the Islamic Terrorist Republic of Iran are sorely mistaken. Wake up and smell the coffee, please. Iranian regime has won politically against the west inside of Iran and in the eyes of many Islamists worldwide. Iranian regime gives warmth to the rest of the Islamists in the world that “yes, defeating US politically is possible, Look at us, they say, we have done it.” –Also, militarily, through assymetric warfare and terrorism in Iraq they dealt a big blow to the US and Iraqis. The notion that they (the Iranians) now have totally been defeated in Iraq is premature at best. More like a strategic withdrawal by Iran for nuke gambit talks to go on giving Iran more and more time to kill.

There is only one single solution left on the table to solve the Iranian dilemma, and that is hitting them with all we got, and hitting them hard, the harder the better. That is the only way left to rid the world of this dirty regime; and it is getting increasingly later and later as Rice’s portege Bush continues to twidle his thumbs and mark time until he leaves office in un-glory.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:57:01 +0000

A regime that willingly, nay, gleefully eradicates its own citizens, is a regime likely to endure.

The Soviets and the Warsaw Bloc collapsed only when they sent the signal that they lacked the nerve to hose down the opposition in the streets.

Tehran has sent no such signal.

Recall how they sent Hezbollah into that university campus a couple of years back. They had no compunction about turning a place of education into a charnel house.

They consider those opposed to them as kuffir, not just political opponents but apostates of islam.

So far Tehran has been very successful in selling their people to pass on the huge showdown with the regime, because the West, in the interest of “stability,” will side with the regime and NOT the people.

That regime isn’t going anywhere, not unless we make it.

And Washington isn’t interested in empowering the people, they’re clearly interested in buying off the ruling clique, or as some think tank types phrase it, “co-opting” them.

This isn’t going to end well.

By: j green

j green — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:22:53 +0000

The Libs play dumb so they can keep complaining. If someone went to a cop and deceived him by fakely confessing to killing someone (like Saddam saying to us that he had an array of weapons) and that cop had reason to believe someone had in fact died (as the Bush and Clinton administrations had real intel which pointed to weapons), then that cop is compelled to act and he would be derelicting his duty if he didn’t. Now you might say that my cop scenario is stupid and highly unlikely that some oaf wuold confess to doing something he didn’t, but what Saddam did was exactly as stupid.

I wouldn’t call Iraq (or Iran) a case being “deceived” per se. I would call it being “compelled” or “obligated” or “forced”. Any administration that ignores the intelligence is performing a dereliction of its most sacred duty to protect the U.S. from all threats.

On the Iran topic, we often talk about the farce that is the the “Grand Bargain” scenario that infatuates U.S. adminsitrations. Iran is not interested in our Grand Bargain because they have one of their own–and they are moving towards it with all the speed they can muster and no negotiation is necessary. Their “insurance policy” is the bomb. This sets them on an inevitable collission course with the West.

Saddam may well have been a victim of disinformation himself, thinking he had bigger teeth than he had, coupled with his refusal to allow us to verify anything, but we have confirmed that Iran is indeed moving towards its goal.