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		<title>By: FRI RI</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thing sucks</description>
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		<title>By: Math_Mage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Math_Mage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alireza:
&quot;I hope you’ll consider my statement here as tough-love-kind of saying . Unlike some of you intellectually-challenged, I don’t name call people here.&quot;

I guess you think we&#039;re too &quot;intellectually challenged&quot; to spot the &quot;idiot&quot; behind your euphemism.  I can only conclude that this statement was the product of serious cognitive dissonance.

Moving on to some of your actual content:

&quot;8 Years of Republican leadership:

9/11 attack&quot;

Did you seriously just blame 9/11 on the Republicans?  Or are you arguing about what mistakes we made afterwards?

&quot;STILL Bin Laden is sending video, text, and Youtube broadcasts from every mountain holes in Pakistan, who has EXCELLENT anti terrorism relationship with U.S.!!!! Is this a joke or what!!&quot;

The real joke is that you think Pakistan has &quot;excellent&quot; anti-terrorism relations with the US.  Who do you think stopped us from going into Pakistan?  Hint: It wasn&#039;t Bush and the eeevil Rethuglicans.  It&#039;s even more amusing that you think eliminating bin Laden should be a higher objective than incapacitating Al Qaeda.  Argue about whether what was done was the best way to achieve the latter objective, sure, but don&#039;t complain that the former wasn&#039;t given precedence.

&quot;Saudi Arabia is STILL a honey source of money for Bin Laden and its associates&quot;

What do you suggest Bush should have done about this that he didn&#039;t do?  You recite a litany of problems, but provide no suggestions of better ideas.

&quot;Bush “JUDGING” and “SENSING” Putin has soul and calls him his great buddy!!! And this 100%-soul is the guy who managed to attack Georgia, as he seat next to Bush in China!!! Wow! Everyday I become more impressed with Republican leadership and “VISION”! Give me more! Give me more!&quot;

Gee, sounds like a good case for &quot;Three letters: K.G.B&quot; McCain.  Bush was practically the only Republican who thought it was a good idea to say what he said, as was pointed out.

&quot;These 8 years indeed made Iran much much stronger and allowed ultra right people to come to power, WITHOUT Bush this would not have happened. No wonder Ahmadinejad loves to come to U.S. every year to keep thanking Bush for his great policies.&quot;

Gee, the Shah fell during Bush&#039;s Presidency?  Color me shocked for remembering such an insignificant year as 1979.  I won&#039;t contest that Iran has become stronger, but what do you expect when pursuing Sunni Al Qaeda?

&quot;Deporting two U.S. ambassadors from Bolivia and Venezuela in span of few days and allowing Russian bombers stop in Venezuela for some beer and chit chat…Wow everyday I get more impressed with this 8 years of accomplishments!! McCain will only make it more exciting with some fireworks…&quot;

If you paused to wipe the spittle from your mouth, you might notice that Venezuela and Bolivia deported them, not Bush.  And it&#039;s not like Bush had the power to magically stop the Russian bombers in their tracks.  Again, you complain but provide no ideas on how to prevent what happened.

&quot;Subprime mess! You know, I’m no Economist and no Fed chairman, but in 2005, I knew so well that hard-to-clean-stuff will hit the fan where so many millions of homes will be wasted, so I sold my house at the top of the market when everybody was buying! I didn’t use a calculator and didn’t read any stat from any banks. Yet, the Fed Chairman with ALL the info. and statistics could not see what is hitting the fan. Instead of prosecuting Greenspan, he is given Medal of Freedom, along with CIA director!!!!!&quot;

Greenspan warned Congress, McCain warned Congress, Bush sponsored oversight legislation, and you&#039;re blaming THEM for the mess?

&quot;Katrina! Anything else I need to add? This took place under the watch of 8 years of Republicans!!! When President’s men have to make him a DVD to show him what is going on in U.S., this reminds me of Ahmadinejad denying killing Jews in WWII.&quot;

Actually, this took place under the watch of the totally incompetent and corrupt Blanco and Nagin administrations, since it was their job to handle the effects of Katrina on their cities.  Bush had 3 days to get involved; he took less than 2.  Ask the Louisianians, who elected Jindal.

&quot;Going into Iraq and managing it so far!! Need I say more?!!!&quot;

Yes, otherwise there&#039;s nothing to talk about.  You think Iraq was a disaster, a quagmire, a war for oil, etc; I don&#039;t.  You&#039;re not going to change any minds with one sentence.

&quot;Afghanistan!! Opium, Taleban, any good news there?&quot;

Another one-sentence, zero-substance remark.  Try again.

&quot;Budget deficit.&quot;

Sounds like a good reason to elect McCain, since he&#039;s all for spending cuts.  I agree that Republicans, Democrats and Bush alike have all been spending like there&#039;s no tomorrow for 8 years.

&quot;U.S. economy. People’s income going down, while cost is going up&quot;

Income is actually going up.  And I&#039;d like to hear your justification for why you blame the Republican administration for the economy&#039;s downward trend.

&quot;45 million people W/O Health insurance&quot;

Only solvable if you think government-mandated health insurance is better.  Another issue that&#039;d take more than one sentence to resolve.

&quot;Price of oil going from $20 to over $140 in 8 years&quot;

And you complain that we haven&#039;t been pressuring Saudi Arabia?  Those are some unrealistic expectations you have there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alireza:<br />
&#8220;I hope you’ll consider my statement here as tough-love-kind of saying . Unlike some of you intellectually-challenged, I don’t name call people here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess you think we&#8217;re too &#8220;intellectually challenged&#8221; to spot the &#8220;idiot&#8221; behind your euphemism.  I can only conclude that this statement was the product of serious cognitive dissonance.</p>
<p>Moving on to some of your actual content:</p>
<p>&#8220;8 Years of Republican leadership:</p>
<p>9/11 attack&#8221;</p>
<p>Did you seriously just blame 9/11 on the Republicans?  Or are you arguing about what mistakes we made afterwards?</p>
<p>&#8220;STILL Bin Laden is sending video, text, and Youtube broadcasts from every mountain holes in Pakistan, who has EXCELLENT anti terrorism relationship with U.S.!!!! Is this a joke or what!!&#8221;</p>
<p>The real joke is that you think Pakistan has &#8220;excellent&#8221; anti-terrorism relations with the US.  Who do you think stopped us from going into Pakistan?  Hint: It wasn&#8217;t Bush and the eeevil Rethuglicans.  It&#8217;s even more amusing that you think eliminating bin Laden should be a higher objective than incapacitating Al Qaeda.  Argue about whether what was done was the best way to achieve the latter objective, sure, but don&#8217;t complain that the former wasn&#8217;t given precedence.</p>
<p>&#8220;Saudi Arabia is STILL a honey source of money for Bin Laden and its associates&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you suggest Bush should have done about this that he didn&#8217;t do?  You recite a litany of problems, but provide no suggestions of better ideas.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bush “JUDGING” and “SENSING” Putin has soul and calls him his great buddy!!! And this 100%-soul is the guy who managed to attack Georgia, as he seat next to Bush in China!!! Wow! Everyday I become more impressed with Republican leadership and “VISION”! Give me more! Give me more!&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, sounds like a good case for &#8220;Three letters: K.G.B&#8221; McCain.  Bush was practically the only Republican who thought it was a good idea to say what he said, as was pointed out.</p>
<p>&#8220;These 8 years indeed made Iran much much stronger and allowed ultra right people to come to power, WITHOUT Bush this would not have happened. No wonder Ahmadinejad loves to come to U.S. every year to keep thanking Bush for his great policies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, the Shah fell during Bush&#8217;s Presidency?  Color me shocked for remembering such an insignificant year as 1979.  I won&#8217;t contest that Iran has become stronger, but what do you expect when pursuing Sunni Al Qaeda?</p>
<p>&#8220;Deporting two U.S. ambassadors from Bolivia and Venezuela in span of few days and allowing Russian bombers stop in Venezuela for some beer and chit chat…Wow everyday I get more impressed with this 8 years of accomplishments!! McCain will only make it more exciting with some fireworks…&#8221;</p>
<p>If you paused to wipe the spittle from your mouth, you might notice that Venezuela and Bolivia deported them, not Bush.  And it&#8217;s not like Bush had the power to magically stop the Russian bombers in their tracks.  Again, you complain but provide no ideas on how to prevent what happened.</p>
<p>&#8220;Subprime mess! You know, I’m no Economist and no Fed chairman, but in 2005, I knew so well that hard-to-clean-stuff will hit the fan where so many millions of homes will be wasted, so I sold my house at the top of the market when everybody was buying! I didn’t use a calculator and didn’t read any stat from any banks. Yet, the Fed Chairman with ALL the info. and statistics could not see what is hitting the fan. Instead of prosecuting Greenspan, he is given Medal of Freedom, along with CIA director!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Greenspan warned Congress, McCain warned Congress, Bush sponsored oversight legislation, and you&#8217;re blaming THEM for the mess?</p>
<p>&#8220;Katrina! Anything else I need to add? This took place under the watch of 8 years of Republicans!!! When President’s men have to make him a DVD to show him what is going on in U.S., this reminds me of Ahmadinejad denying killing Jews in WWII.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, this took place under the watch of the totally incompetent and corrupt Blanco and Nagin administrations, since it was their job to handle the effects of Katrina on their cities.  Bush had 3 days to get involved; he took less than 2.  Ask the Louisianians, who elected Jindal.</p>
<p>&#8220;Going into Iraq and managing it so far!! Need I say more?!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, otherwise there&#8217;s nothing to talk about.  You think Iraq was a disaster, a quagmire, a war for oil, etc; I don&#8217;t.  You&#8217;re not going to change any minds with one sentence.</p>
<p>&#8220;Afghanistan!! Opium, Taleban, any good news there?&#8221;</p>
<p>Another one-sentence, zero-substance remark.  Try again.</p>
<p>&#8220;Budget deficit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sounds like a good reason to elect McCain, since he&#8217;s all for spending cuts.  I agree that Republicans, Democrats and Bush alike have all been spending like there&#8217;s no tomorrow for 8 years.</p>
<p>&#8220;U.S. economy. People’s income going down, while cost is going up&#8221;</p>
<p>Income is actually going up.  And I&#8217;d like to hear your justification for why you blame the Republican administration for the economy&#8217;s downward trend.</p>
<p>&#8220;45 million people W/O Health insurance&#8221;</p>
<p>Only solvable if you think government-mandated health insurance is better.  Another issue that&#8217;d take more than one sentence to resolve.</p>
<p>&#8220;Price of oil going from $20 to over $140 in 8 years&#8221;</p>
<p>And you complain that we haven&#8217;t been pressuring Saudi Arabia?  Those are some unrealistic expectations you have there.</p>
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		<title>By: Aristide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aristide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=Alireza&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alireza&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Belmont Club &#187; It&#8217;s now or never</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belmont Club &#187; It&#8217;s now or never</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sowell writes about Obama&#8217;s &#8220;worn-out economic ideas&#8221; can he really be serious? Michael Ledeen argues in dead earnest that BHO&#8217;s ideas are mostly obsolete. Paradoxically, Obama is in some [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sowell writes about Obama&#8217;s &#8220;worn-out economic ideas&#8221; can he really be serious? Michael Ledeen argues in dead earnest that BHO&#8217;s ideas are mostly obsolete. Paradoxically, Obama is in some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alireza</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2008/09/12/the-age-thing/comment-page-2/#comment-4530</link>
		<dc:creator>Alireza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nice to read leading newspapers like LA Time writes about the same thing I said about the impact of Greenspan on economy has been much more damaging than Bin Laden has done to U.S. Now here is what is more impressive:

The guy who criticizes Greenspan is the finance minister of Italy, who is a conservative!!! 

Here is an extraction:

“ Giulio Tremonti excoriated the &quot;voracious selfishness&quot; of speculators and &quot;stupid sluggishness&quot; of regulators. And he singled out Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, with startling scorn.”

&quot;Greenspan was considered a master,&quot; Tremonti declared. &quot;Now we must ask ourselves whether he is not, after [Osama] bin Laden, the man who hurt America the most. . . . It is clear that what is happening is a disease. It is not the failure of a bank, but the failure of a system. Until a few days ago, very few were willing to realize the intensity and the dramatic nature of the crisis.&quot;

So I was not off demanding prosecution of Alan Greenspan as soon as possible. There must be a petition drive and demanding such an inbestigation. And PLEASE stop saying “free market…” “free market…” and then giving yourself a corrupted perception that you are a conservative. Please!

Here is the link:

www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-euromood20-2008sep20,0,7535469.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nice to read leading newspapers like LA Time writes about the same thing I said about the impact of Greenspan on economy has been much more damaging than Bin Laden has done to U.S. Now here is what is more impressive:</p>
<p>The guy who criticizes Greenspan is the finance minister of Italy, who is a conservative!!! </p>
<p>Here is an extraction:</p>
<p>“ Giulio Tremonti excoriated the &#8220;voracious selfishness&#8221; of speculators and &#8220;stupid sluggishness&#8221; of regulators. And he singled out Alan Greenspan, the former chairman of the U.S. Federal Reserve, with startling scorn.”</p>
<p>&#8220;Greenspan was considered a master,&#8221; Tremonti declared. &#8220;Now we must ask ourselves whether he is not, after [Osama] bin Laden, the man who hurt America the most. . . . It is clear that what is happening is a disease. It is not the failure of a bank, but the failure of a system. Until a few days ago, very few were willing to realize the intensity and the dramatic nature of the crisis.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I was not off demanding prosecution of Alan Greenspan as soon as possible. There must be a petition drive and demanding such an inbestigation. And PLEASE stop saying “free market…” “free market…” and then giving yourself a corrupted perception that you are a conservative. Please!</p>
<p>Here is the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-euromood20-2008sep20,0,7535469.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-euromood20-2008sep20,0,7535469.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alireza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alireza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We thank our Muslim brother Alan Greenspan, who lives and works under the cover as Jew to help its brother in Al Qaida. 

Brother Alan! With love and brotherly kisses for you, we at the Al Qaida could not bring this much melt down by dirty bombs to U.S. economy that you have done! Wow! 

May Allah be with you! You smart soldier knew by pumping the market with so many fraudulent loans indeed would bring this kind of 2+ trillion dollars damage to the infidels. Now my brother soldiers are saying they no longer want to wear bomb belt to kill themselves. No! Brother Alan, they want to go to Ivy League and a get a degree and then head to Wall Street to make some bad loans there!!! LOL…

Brother Alan Allah be with you and say shalom to our dearly sister Mitchell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We thank our Muslim brother Alan Greenspan, who lives and works under the cover as Jew to help its brother in Al Qaida. </p>
<p>Brother Alan! With love and brotherly kisses for you, we at the Al Qaida could not bring this much melt down by dirty bombs to U.S. economy that you have done! Wow! </p>
<p>May Allah be with you! You smart soldier knew by pumping the market with so many fraudulent loans indeed would bring this kind of 2+ trillion dollars damage to the infidels. Now my brother soldiers are saying they no longer want to wear bomb belt to kill themselves. No! Brother Alan, they want to go to Ivy League and a get a degree and then head to Wall Street to make some bad loans there!!! LOL…</p>
<p>Brother Alan Allah be with you and say shalom to our dearly sister Mitchell.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 12:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That line confuses me… You mean, I’m supposed to give Bush credit that we haven’t been attacked AGAIN?

What about the first time? That doesn’t count?&quot;

Considering some of the 9/11 hijackers entered the US during the Clinton administration, and all of them entered with visas acquired under Clinton-era policies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That line confuses me… You mean, I’m supposed to give Bush credit that we haven’t been attacked AGAIN?</p>
<p>What about the first time? That doesn’t count?&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering some of the 9/11 hijackers entered the US during the Clinton administration, and all of them entered with visas acquired under Clinton-era policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you President Bush and V P Cheney for keeping us safe since 9/11. Clinton had 10 chances to get Bin Laden and blew it.

Thank you Governor Jindal for what you did in Louisiana regarding Hurricane Gustav and Governor Perry for Ike in Texas.

Thank you Mr Greenspan for steering us through 9/11 and the dot com bubble. It&#039;s not your fault borrowers and lenders do not have a clue anymore how to execute a mortgage like the old days - 20% down 30 year fixed rate. What has been going on is a bunch of crap and peple have nobody to blame but themselves.

Name three holdcthst one Accomplishment Barack Obama had done in his career other than winning elections with gutter Chocago ppliyics and nailing notices to telephone poles as a Community Organizer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you President Bush and V P Cheney for keeping us safe since 9/11. Clinton had 10 chances to get Bin Laden and blew it.</p>
<p>Thank you Governor Jindal for what you did in Louisiana regarding Hurricane Gustav and Governor Perry for Ike in Texas.</p>
<p>Thank you Mr Greenspan for steering us through 9/11 and the dot com bubble. It&#8217;s not your fault borrowers and lenders do not have a clue anymore how to execute a mortgage like the old days &#8211; 20% down 30 year fixed rate. What has been going on is a bunch of crap and peple have nobody to blame but themselves.</p>
<p>Name three holdcthst one Accomplishment Barack Obama had done in his career other than winning elections with gutter Chocago ppliyics and nailing notices to telephone poles as a Community Organizer.</p>
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		<title>By: Alireza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alireza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you’ll consider my statement here as tough-love-kind of saying . Unlike some of you intellectually-challenged, I don’t name call people here.

As I read so many baseless comments regarding my post, it is clear, the same lack of mind, intellect, analysis and capabilities went to work in the last 8 years in so many aspects of life in this country to bring it this low. This America that I knew is losing it and it’s losing it fast. And some of you people are the fertilizers for this moving into the black hole.

I could simply say it is incompetence, but I know I’m simplifying it by all the nonsense here. My proof is the last 8 years. On this day that banks are going down and U.S. government must start investigating and charging Greenspan for treason and incompetence, you people call it free market. Some of you call me socialist!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you’ll consider my statement here as tough-love-kind of saying . Unlike some of you intellectually-challenged, I don’t name call people here.</p>
<p>As I read so many baseless comments regarding my post, it is clear, the same lack of mind, intellect, analysis and capabilities went to work in the last 8 years in so many aspects of life in this country to bring it this low. This America that I knew is losing it and it’s losing it fast. And some of you people are the fertilizers for this moving into the black hole.</p>
<p>I could simply say it is incompetence, but I know I’m simplifying it by all the nonsense here. My proof is the last 8 years. On this day that banks are going down and U.S. government must start investigating and charging Greenspan for treason and incompetence, you people call it free market. Some of you call me socialist!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hurley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hurley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me see - what ideas have failed?  Is it the Democrats who have been in charge for the last eight years.  I would say that if we expect a different result, we need to try a different policy.  Let measure the degree of econonic satisfaction for the previous eith years against the last eight years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me see &#8211; what ideas have failed?  Is it the Democrats who have been in charge for the last eight years.  I would say that if we expect a different result, we need to try a different policy.  Let measure the degree of econonic satisfaction for the previous eith years against the last eight years.</p>
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