We are just back from a long weekend in and around Billings, Montana, happily without internet connection for most of the time. So it is only now that I’m catching up on the latest utterances of our leaders. I have long said that Senator Biden is one of the dimmest bulbs in that great overdone chandelier known as the U.S. Senate, and his performance in this campaign has certainly added dimness to his luster. As Governor Palin said just yesterday, if she had said the things Biden has said, she’d be carved into little pieces by the MSM and by the narcissistic intellectuals who frequent the oped pages and the talk shows. Whether remembering FDR’s television performances or the great American victory over Hezbollah in Lebanon or a local restaurant that hasn’t existed for two decades, Biden simply invents his world every day. I guess if he doesn’t have a text to plagiarize, he just can’t get it straight.
Suddenly, everyone paid attention to an offhand remark he made to friends at a fund raiser. And for once, I think he got it right, warning that if Obama were elected, he’d be severely “tested” quite early in his presidency. ”
“Watch. We’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.
“And he’s going to need help . . . to stand with him. Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”
This sort of a thing is a commonplace for incoming presidents; I can’t remember one who wasn’t told something like it during the transition period, and a lot of energy is invariably devoted to analyzing likely scenarios and designing adequate responses. On this one, Biden is simply part of the conventional wisdom. The surprising part of his statement is the last sentence. What does he mean when he says “it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right”?
Of course, it may mean nothing. Lots of Bidengaffes are simply the result of an inability to stop talking, and words just come pouring out. But it may mean what McCain is suggesting it means: that Biden knows that Obama has no sense of what the world is really like, and it’s likely that Obama’s initial reactions will be misguided. The inference would then be: so until I, Biden, get him straightened out, he’s probably gonna look bad.”
On the other hand, he may think he knows something real. There are some blog reports suggesting that US intelligence agencies now believe that Iran will be building its first bomb by next February, and Biden may take those reports seriously. If so, President Obama would have to do something. What? Does Biden think that his administration’s first instinct would be to call a conference and then fly to Tehran to negotiate a big deal? Or does he think it would then be necessary to take drastic action? The talking cure seems more to Obama’s taste, but no serious person believes it would succeed.
Who knows? But imagine if Palin had said such a thing. We’d have a million column inches explaining why she doesn’t belong on a national ticket.





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1. Anthony (Los Angeles):Biden also said in that encounter that he had forgotten more in his 35 years in the Senate than his colleagues ever knew. I think that’s wrong: he just keeps inventing new realities in his head every so often.
In Governor Palin’s case, I get the feeling that, while she’s not experienced in foreign affairs now, she learn far more than Joe even knew in far less time, and it would be grounded in the real world.
Oct 22, 2008 - 12:17 pm 2. Pajamas Media » Analyzing Biden’s Latest Gaffe:[...] the entire story here [...]
Oct 22, 2008 - 2:02 pm 3. Argyll:Liberals getting tough when faced with reality can be hard on the country. I remember in Halberstam’s The Best and the Brightest, that one of contributing factors to the Democrats escalating Vietnam in the early 60’s, was their perceived need to be tough on communism. The resulting implementation of policy–by those very bright elites–was the consequence. Over-reation may be as likely as appeasement. I wouldn’t expect too many of Obama’s advisors ever bothered reading Boyd.
Oct 22, 2008 - 2:03 pm 4. Marc Malone:Biden IS experienced. While a great BSer, he can’t help but have learned a couple things throughout his life. He has been very consistent in this campaign about Obama’s inexperience. He has never wavered in this. Makes you wonder if he isn’t really pulling for McCain, although that would be hard to imagine, as Biden seems pretty self-serving. It would make him the perfect Trojan Horse, however.
Here are a few scenarios for you:
1) The day Obama’s sworn in, the Chinese move to retake Taiwan. What would Obama do? My guess is talk, talk, talk… until it’s a fait accompli;
Russia moves to finish taking Georgia. No real response;
2) Iraq demands an immediate withdrawal of our forces, then the Shias go after the Sunnis with Iranian support. No way Obama can get involved with his previous stance on Iraq;
3) Iran does a test blockade of the straits of Hormuz. Does Obama get us into a shooting war with them? I doubt it. Negotiations would drag on while the price of oil goes way up, which is what Iran wants;
4) Venezuela takes overt action against Colombia, maybe with Russian support. What does Obama do? Probably nothing, but eventually negotiates in favor of Venezuela;
What would McCain do in these scenarios? I think you know. Because you know and they know, it wouldn’t ever happen. Heck, even Palin would handle them better.
Oct 22, 2008 - 2:44 pm 5. tom:Iran launches a premediated strike against Israel
and we just stand there looking on
These guys can’t even keep their mouth shut now that they have increased security briefings
what a complete idiot Biden is
now Obama is calling it a “rhetorical flourish”
all quiet on the MSM front
Oct 22, 2008 - 3:02 pm 6. Anthony (Los Angeles):Regarding #4, the Venezuelan military hasn’t done anything other than overthrow their own government since the 1820s, while the Colombian military is professional competent, and battle-hardened. They could handle the Venezuelans fine with, I suspect, just air and logistical support from US. I would hope The One could at least manage that for an ally.
Wait. I forgot who I was talking about…
Oct 22, 2008 - 3:05 pm 7. Mr. B:Obama would redefine his way out of a crisis.
If Iran gets the Bomb, they will no longer be so bad. We can deal with them.
If Israel is threatened, they will not have been so important to the U.S. after all.
Taiwan, well, they’ve been provoking China for too long, and as anyone can see our business interests lie with China.
etc.
Oct 22, 2008 - 3:07 pm 8. sunshine2:There is no problem in the world for which Oblahma can’t react with a proper slogan.
Oct 22, 2008 - 3:27 pm 9. jane:Being a cynic my interpretation of Biden’s comment “Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.” means that whatever Obama does is going to shock the American public.
Unfortunately IMO that means his reaction to some attack will be to do nothing to challenge it, to “stand down.” It would appear that Biden is preparing us to accept the US waving a white flag.
Oct 22, 2008 - 3:34 pm 10. Jim Baker:Biden has us talking about everything but the communists Obama runs with. Good job Joe, the stupid Republicans bought this hook line and sinker. Now they think they can win by running against his inexperience. You would think they know that inexperience is only a liability for a VP candidate. I smell another round of Palin bashing coming up. Then Obama will come back from visiting his racist grandmother in time to make a presidential address to us all in order to make us know he can handle anything the bad guys can throw at us. And then the media will compare his address to the damned Gettysburg address and we will all go to select The One. And, after he is crowned, our economy will get well and we will all owe it to Obama. And you don’t think I am scared “Right down to my socks, buster!”
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:01 pm 11. Nick G:Well, it’s a good thing Obama will have the foreign policy “expert” who voted to cut off funding to S. Vietnam, opposed SDI and missile defebse, wanted to stop supporting anti-communists in the 1980s, opposed Gulf War I, the surge, and wanted to split Iraq into ethnic enclaves to be advising him when this crisis “generates.”
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:15 pm 12. k. pablo:Joe Biden is savvy enough to realize a lot of national security issues have their own logic and their own momentum. An Obama DOD/State/NSC apparatus is therefore likely to make a lot of the same decisions the “neocons” did, because enacting the popular and prevailing nutroots views would be utterly catastrophic.
The problem is for eight years the left’s leaders have been stoking the flames of Bush Derangement Syndrome by saying a muscular foreign policy is immoral and damnable. Joe Biden is trying to head-off the inevitable criticism that will scream out of the left once Obama has to adopt elements of the Bush doctrine — for example, pre-emptive strikes against Iran, among 4 or 5 other scenarios. He’s making a play for wiggle room.
But maybe that’s just my wishful thinking.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:17 pm 13. vivo:Biden is more “Straight Talk” than the McCain/Palin pathetic act. His honesty is transformed and distorted just like everything else. McCain is not ready for Day One or any other day. Palin is a parrot with Peg Bundy manners. That’s why voters of all sorts are going Blue this time. Common sense.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:18 pm 14. Highlander:Some people have speculated (Rush Limbaugh among them) that Biden’s plea for Obama supporters to keep the faith in regards to the crisis response, was a reference to the response as being weak and ineffective. And that such a response would be likely to frustrate and anger them. I don’t think that’s what Biden meant. Remember who he’s talking to – the Obama faithful. These people wouldn’t have us raise a hand in our defense under any circumstances.They are pacifists through and through. No, I think Biden was asking for their forbearance in the case of Obama actually having to act in defense of the U.S. – or, even worse, in defense of Israel.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:18 pm 15. USAF Captain:Marc Malone writes:
“Here are a few scenarios for you:
..Russia moves to finish taking Georgia..”
Marc, I puts in mind the video of Obama — on vacation in Hawaii — shuffling out to meet the press — with that deer-in-the-headlights-stare and that lame, “yeah, what he [McCain] said” comment.
You conjecture on Palin is correct. She has risen from member of the PTA in 1994 to governor of a state, arguably twice the progress in half the time spent in public service as Biden..
..and I am sure she’s rolled up more votes than “Plugs” has in their respective campaigns. What’s he got — about 6,000 — from his latest effort in the Democrat primaries?
Pathetic.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:34 pm 16. Marc Malone:Jane – No white flag for Obama. Just “tough, direct diplomacy!” That’ll show ‘em, by golly!
Oops. Should’ve been 5 examples. Russia/Georgia should’ve been #2.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:35 pm 17. cfbleachers:“I’ve forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I’m not being falsely humble with you”
So, where…exactly, does that put us in the equation today. If you have forgotten more than they know, do you…or they…currently possess the most knowledge and insight about foreign policy. Or have you forgotten so much, that it’s impossible to estimate?
“…we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”
Hugh Hewitt on Monday night wrote an article that detailed a conversation with Victor Davis Hanson, in which they discussed what Biden may have meant.
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/6affe916-1db6-4457-8d86-19c0912af286
“Hanson knows what Joe Biden almost bluntly declared and certainly implied: A President Obama will blink when Iran threatens Israel by approaching the nuclear tripwire. A President Obama will seek to force Israel to live with Iran as a nuclear power capable of either striking Israel or shipping to Hezbollah the means of threatening the very existence of the Jewish state, and the supporters of Israel in the U.S. will be stunned and then angry.
Perhaps. Although, one only has to remember back to May 10th when the following item was reported…
A principal Mideast adviser to US presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama resigned Friday after reports surfaced that he had been in repeated contact with members of Hamas. Rob Malley met with Hamas officials during “research”….”
With a team assembled that includes Brzezinski, Bonior, McPeak, and formerly Samantha Power, Malley and apparently includes Lugar and Jones…the table seems set for a formal recognition of Hamas. And sending a “front man”…albeit with all due plausible deniability…to bring the silverware and stemware and to talk about picking out china patterns, seems not to far-fetched.
If Malley was doing frontwork for what might be “horse traded” in return for official recognition, and if Malley also signaled a willingness to ratchet back the “influence of the Zionists”, as Rev. Jackson so openly discussed in France…then the “appearance that we may not be right”, and the “whoa, I don’t know about that decision” as well as the “we need you to keep the community calm”…pieces together nicely.
It also coincides neatly with a decision to stop debating the worried voices in the Jewish “community”. Apparently miffed at a couple of ads that questioned the team assembled and their historic antipathy toward Israel, the Obama campaign packed up their ball and went home. The “fairness” doctrine apparently includes the following rules:
1)If you dissent, we will legislate you out of existence;
2)If you question, we will sic the crooked media on you;
3)If you point at our team, we will call off all debates;
4)If you ask for our records, we will have our universities and libraries slam the door
5)If you appear as a radio guest to discuss us, we will issue a call to action to silence you
6)If you point at our associations, we will slander you as racist
Sounds “fair” to me.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:36 pm 18. david:hopefully this will change the race.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:39 pm 19. Paul M Hupf:We are confronted by determined adversaries! Senator, by his own admission in 2004, is ill prepared to deal with them. He has spent the two years since his election to the United States Senate campaigning for the Presidency, exactly what he said he would not do in 2004.
Oct 22, 2008 - 4:54 pm 20. R a Z o R:John McCAIN was in a jet cockpit on an
aircraft carrier near Cuba during the Cuban
missle crisis . McCAIN was there .
John McCAIN was tortured because he is an
American .
John McCAIN has been tested .
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Oct 22, 2008 - 4:59 pm 21. Mark:I’ve believed, since Obama first announced his intention to run, that we are now looking at the very real possibility of a nuclear shooting war-more real, in fact, than during the Cold War. If we take action against Iran now, while they’re still building a nuclear weapon, then we can limit the coming war to a conventional one. If we don’t, as President Obama won’t, then we’re virtually guaranteeing a nuclear attack against Isreal that will be quickly tied to Iran. In the latter case, of course, our only option left will be a retaliatory nuclear strike against Iran, which Obama will be quick to authorize to make up for his past weakness on the matter. From there, it’s anyone’s guess what will happen.
Of course, I’m speculating here. And by golly, do I hope I’m wrong.
Oct 22, 2008 - 5:15 pm 22. thegr8 1:So the treasure hunt is on in Hawaii for the birth certificate.
Biden is Bob Uecker in a suit and that is an insult to Bob Uecker. Are the Clinton’s writing his speeches?
Will this event Biden predicts will happen be above Obama’s pay grade to react to? Will Obama say “If you need me call me I’ll be there” while a country or city somewhere goes up in flames? If Palin said something like this it would be on page 1 of every newspaper that I wouldn’t use for toilet paper for a week.
Get out of the way and let a real military hero run our military.
Oct 22, 2008 - 5:16 pm 23. wpb:Had a friend tell me that Biden was considering hunting lessons from Cheney – in an effort to keep from shooting himself in the foot each week. I said it’s a bad move for Cheney: it might look like assisted suicide when Joe shoots himself in the foot, while his foot is in his mouth.
Oct 22, 2008 - 5:35 pm 24. thegr8 1:From Barry Farber discussing this issue: If you want to see wolves act like sheep.
Israel/Iran is the likely issue. When the phone rings at 3 AM and the Middle East is in flames who do you want answering the phone? Would Obama do something unpopular that will seriously damage the US and other countries as we watch the stock market drop to 5000 or lower?
I do recall Hillary at least said if Iran attacked Israel the US would obliterate Iran.
McCainiacs don’t let the media and the polls sway you not to vote. We need all of you to vote in order to prevail. The free world what’s left of it need all of you to vote for McCain/Palin.
Oct 22, 2008 - 5:45 pm 25. misanthropicus:Hurrah, we’re gonna be bombed again! (but this time as an open-minded people, because we earned some liking abroad by showing that we can nurture a diverse person’s with a name like Hussein personal growth!)
Mister Biden, insightful Freudian slip, thank you!
Biden, involuntary Cassandra, rightfully predicted that (god forbid, in case Obama’s elected) we’ll soon be in a major conflict because outside forces will want to test/break Obama’s mettle – in other words, America will pay in lives and tragedy the liberals’ wanton need for showing to themselves and the world how enlightened, open-minded and multicultural they are, by forcing upon this country a cynical, narcissistic and utterly incompetent buffoon as commander-in-chief.
Biden’s remark should crown any illustration of liberals’ pathological, criminal irresponsibility (anything new here?)
Yes, we’ll may soon see NYT, CNN and their ilk
ratiocinating why Obama’s presence in the office (we’re liked again, he’s a unifier, the plantation thing got to be adressed, etc.), overwhelmingly trumps his blunders (if not outright betrayal) which will cost this nation lives (many of them) and other severe misfortunes.
And ain’t you noticed lately that the Dem campaign is setting at lower and lower levels Obama’s expected performance? I wonder why – has the world changed since May? Or the Grand Eel’s reserve of hope’n change is getting
dry?
As far as the timing of the crisis, normally we should see it coming as earlier than later. Either way, we’ll assist at how America will pay dearly with lives this sinister enterprise -allowing the ascenssion to the US presidency of a cynical hologram whose only qualification for the job is that fits the liberals’ and media’ deep anti-American passions.
PS: the latest AP and IBD polls look pretty encouraging so – praise the Lord, and pass the ammonition!
Oct 22, 2008 - 5:49 pm 26. Saltherring:Biden says:
I believe Tom @ 5 has it right when he states: “Iran launches a premediated strike against Israel and we just stand there looking on”
And jane @ 9 gets it right also when, in reference to Biden’s statement of, “Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”, jane says, “means that whatever Obama does is going to shock the American public”
I suggest we tie Tom’s “crisis” with jane’s conclusion. Iran will attack (or threaten to attack) Israel, and Obama will abandon our ally in favor of Islam and “peace”.
Oct 22, 2008 - 5:57 pm 27. Pete from Arkansas:Does Biden has Alzheimer’s?
It appears to me that Joe Biden shows symptoms of senile dementia, either alzheimer’s or another form of aging.
The democrats appear to recognize this, and now permit no more questions be put to him.
Shouldn’t a question of Biden’s mental condition be pressed?
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:05 pm 28. Valerie:I strongly suspect that, once in office, Barack Obama would act more like an American president than like a liberal Senator. The problem is, he has invited the world’s tough guys to view him as a pansy, and some national leaders will act on that notion. That’s how we will wind up in a shooting war, one that John McCain would have been able to avoid.
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:05 pm 29. Terry Gain:Speculating about the future isn’t nearly as useful as thinking about the past and present.
If Obama had been POTUS in the last two years there would not have been a surge and Iraq would now be in a state of chaos. And, instead of suffering a devastating and humiliating defeat, al Qaeda would now have a safe haven.
Obmama isn’t merely unready. He’s unfit.
And everyone, including Colin Powell, who thinks Iraq could have been conceded to Iran and al Qaeda -as Obama advocated – without devastating consequence for America, is a moron.
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:17 pm 30. zanne:Seems like when Biden stop to think…he forgets to start up again.
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:25 pm 31. rachel peepers:Michael Ledeen, like many other writers, characterized Joe Biden’s statement about Obama being tested as a gaffe.
Which is something I take some exception to.
I believe Joe Biden’s statement more accurately belongs in the “half gaffe” category. Here’s why.
Essentially, I think Biden is correct. I think, since Obama has no “experiencial past” to fall back on, and since he seems to walk, talk and quack like the most leftists of liberal, our enemies surely will early on test him to see how he reacts in crisis mode.
At the same time, the Biden statement, of course, rises to the level of a gaffe because it was a politically idiotic thing to say, opening a Sam’s buyer’s club size of canned worms.
One has to wonder; should this manufactured world crisis occur like Biden predicts, how would a wet behind the ears, naive Obama react?
Well, I’d venture to say that under the stress of command, Obama’s chances of making a verbal mis-step, a miscalculation are enormous. Fact is, less than a month ago, Obama demonstrated a tendency to make gross miscalculations with regard to critical international events.
Look no farther back than Russia’s bully boy invasion of Georgia.
Obama’s hair trigger, wet behind the ears response, was to characterize both counties as moral equivalents. That’s like saying Germany’s September 1, 1939 invasion of Poland was the fault of both counties.
Which is wrong.
Germany, was the invader. Poland was at peace, and had done nothing to provoke the attack.
So what’s Obama’s problem. I think it’s more than a lack of experience.
The poor guy can’t seem to distinguish right from wrong.
Do we want that key quality in our next President?
In point of fact, electing Obama, in my view, is like asking a just called up Double A minor league pitcher to start the first game of the World Series.
It’s like having Lee Grosscup be the starting quarterback in the Superbowl, something a rookie head coach as inept as Dave Waanstead wouldn’t even do.
Take away all of Obama’s terrorist buddies, hate america first pastor friends, and dirty, bottom of the deck dealing Rezko criminal friends and you still have a guy who’s way out of touch with your average Jane and Joe and way out of his league with regard to being commander in chief.
Luckily for America, one day recently Barack bumped into mainstream America, a guy named Joe.
Joe, who was tossing a football around with his son, decided to ask Obama a tax question, not the kind of softball NBC throws his way.
Obama then blurted out his redistribution of wealth grand strategy and all hell broke loose.
Know what I think it did?
I think it caused people to take sides. Joe the plumber on one side and Obama on the other.
Before Obama realized what he did, Obama said precisely what he and Michelle and his billion dollar backer, George Soros, truly believe in; redistribution of wealth. Obama says it’s about fairness. I say poppycock.
It’s about a socialist view of the world that is contrary to everything this country stands for. Redistribution of wealth in those exact words, is part of the Karl Marx/Leninist manifesto.
It’s fair to say, when Obama says what he really believes, many Americans resoundingly say “No.”
Who do you share your values with?
The candidate who wants to raise taxes sky high in year two, while masking his intentions in year one?
Who’ll I bet my bottom dollar plans to remove the 1997 homeowners’ exemption so you’ll have to give the government 30% of your profit when you sell your house instead of zero which is how the law now stands?
Who’ll snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq?
Or do you have the same hopes and dreams of the plumber who Barack now says in retrospect, “I wish I never met him.”
Joe the plumber is voting for John McCain. So am I.
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:55 pm 32. iconoclast:Worry about Palin becoming POTUS???
Hell, I worry about Joe Biden becoming POTUS! Joe’s head clearly exploded awhile back, ’cause he has been talking out of his a** now days.
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:56 pm 33. fred:I have long believed that the American Jewish community has had some kind of death wish in aligning itself with the Party of Jackasses. And in Israel for many years now running the Jewish state has been governed by a coalition dominated by center-Left people, who have lost their mettle and have been frittering away their hard-won state and security. Israelis seem impervious to the danger now lurking just outside the security fence.
As a goyhim friend of Jews and a supporter of the State of Israel, it has been frustrating to watch this happen. But, in the final analysis, what can one do? If American Jews and Israeli Jews have measured their lives and their security so cheaply that they fall for the blandishments of socialists and their utopian mirages, then they get what they deserve. Just as our nation will get what it deserves after November 4th.
We are about to enter a very dark period in our history, the seeds of which have been sown for many decades of the covert Gramscian Communists’ penetrations of all of our institutions. Now, their long and hard work is bearing fruit, as the oldest of the Baby Boomers’ radicals from the Sixties, who kept the Communist flame alive, mate their political chips with those of the Baby Boomlet Generation, currently going ga-ga over that long-legged mack daddy.
The rest of us must keep the true narrative of our nation alive. We must preserve the spirit of our Constitution, even as it is whittled away by these New Left “Progressives” and their stupid, youthful lemmings.
Oct 22, 2008 - 6:57 pm 34. SAF:First: Why did Biden say this?
Biden is not the center of attention in this contest. Obama, who has much less time on the public stage and even Sarah Palin have more public exposure. So like the kid who isn’t part of the in crowd he took a confidential piece of information he got from an important secret meeting and went public with it so he could look important. So that’s why he said it.
Second: What he said is disturbing.
The CIA I believe has recently reassessed Iran’s schedule for having a nuke by February. Now the Iranians are openly talking about a preemptive strike again Israel. So one way or another there will be a war in the Mideast and soon. Courtesy of the Russians who have been arming and prodding the Iranians and blocking meaningful sanctions for the sole purpose of causing a decrease in oil from the Mideast, their largest competitor. A shooting war is a money maker for the Russians. They get to replace the arms they sold Iran, Syria etc. Causing oil to go to a permanently higher price.
The piece Biden said about “patience” is that Obama will not come to help the Israelis in their time of need.
So the game of who do you trust gets played by the Israelis. Preempt everything while Bush is still president and get support perhaps or roll the dice on the big O.
I think in the end of the day the Israelis must preempt. And the way things look now it will be between election day and inauguration day.
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:08 pm 35. thegr8_1:Biden=Bob Uecker
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:16 pm 36. fred:American Jews throwing in their support for Obama because he’s a Democrat or because he’s a socialist have fed this lousy sh*t sandwich at their coreligionists in Israel. There are a LOT of prominent secular Jews in the Obama campaign. I swear if I were a Jew I would want these people shot for their perfidy.
And the puppet master, Georgy Soros, ethnically a Jew in Budapest during WWII as a fourteen year old helping the Nazis ferret out fellow Jews, says he feels no guilt over what he did.
Gents, these are the kind of people who are triumphing in these dark times.
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:22 pm 37. Terry Gain:SAF
I concur.
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:28 pm 38. aloysiusmiller:I think we should thank Biden for his honesty and candor and acknowledge his lack of confidence in Barack Hussein Obama.
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:36 pm 39. Someone75:Marc:
You give a long list of scenarios in which Obama does something idiotic. Why exactly do you think he’s going to screw up so terribly? He’s said he’s more than willing to go to war, if necessary. On the other hand, he shows the judgment to not get us into an unnecessary war. Saddam was a bad guy, but lets face it – that’s not where the war on terror was.
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:42 pm 40. Chip:Obama really didn’t know the difference between Memorial Day and Veteran’s Day and once again the press gave Obama a free pass on being unaware of a concept that every patriotic 5th grader in the country knows.
And when he talked about army brigades, he had no comprehension about the differences between the 82nd Airborne and the 3rd ID.
McCain tore Obama apart about not knowing the difference between the concept of a strategic initiative and a tactical initiative.
Obama is a DANGEROUSLY inexperienced and naive neophite in terms what it takes to assume the responsibility of being our CIC.
God help us if Obama gets elected. Obama is incompetent to lead our military.
Oct 22, 2008 - 7:56 pm 41. thegr8_1:I was shocked reading David Axelrod is Jewish on Haaretz.com they had a list of 36 Jewish people hurting America. Yes Barney Frank is on the list but not Chuck Schumer?
I wonder how Obama and Biden would do on the TV show Are you Smarter than a Fifth Grader.
Oct 22, 2008 - 8:07 pm 42. thegr8_1:Debka.com said US intelligence indicated Iran could have nuke by Feb 09. Prior posting is correct.
Oct 22, 2008 - 8:10 pm 43. Neurorad:Biden may not really be a gaffe machine. It is possible that he suffers from lack of impulse control due to damage to his frontal lobes. He has had two craniotomies to treat brain aneurysms in or around the circle of Willis. The first event resulted in a subarchnoid hemorrhage when the aneurysm ruptured spontaneously. The second was treated electively and never ruptured. Statistically, most of these aneurysms occur around the anterior part of the brain and the limited published descriptions about Mr. Biden’s surgeries suggest that this was the likely location in his situation. Therefore, it is quite likely that there was damage to one or both frontal lobes, either as a direct result of the surgical procedure or due to his original hemorrhage. Mr. Biden’s behavior suggests he could have suffered a significant brain injury and this is consistent with the limited detail available about his clinical course. The media reports on his surgeries have focused only on the likelihood of him developing another aneurysm, which is not likely. This misses the point however, namely, what brain damage occurred with these prior clinical events and does any possible damage speak to his fitness to serve as the Vice President of the United States. Release of his MRI data could easily answer the question.
Oct 22, 2008 - 8:15 pm 44. Pinkie Ann LeBrainne:What a great pair. Biden has a security briefing then goes out and babbles like a fool hoping to make himself look important, and Obama couldn’t get a security clearance that would let him replace the burned out light bulbs at the Pentagon.
Oct 22, 2008 - 8:26 pm 45. keithacia:uncle joe biden has the coolest hanging klingon like eyelids in the senate. by the way, that’s why they have so many vacations…plastic surgery breaks. drug testing for congress!!!!
Oct 22, 2008 - 8:50 pm 46. Jim Baker:Obama doesn’t want anyone talking about his communist buddies. This could cost him the election. He wants us talking about anything else, so now we talk about Biden’s hypothetical scenario. Perfect. We kill a few more days while those motor voters and absentee ballots keep voting for Barry. THIS MAN IS A DAMNED COMMUNIST AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IRAN AND THE BOMB AND RUSSIA AND NORTH KOREA AS IF THEY ARE OUR PROBLEM! SHEESH!
okay, I am done now.
Oct 22, 2008 - 9:21 pm 47. fear Obama?:Obama is a minor compared to this major mouth.
If this man accidentally became President-
God help us!
He would give your phone number and address to the KGB.
/and people said Sarah Palin talks too much.
Oct 22, 2008 - 9:40 pm 48. GeoFizz:I think Ledeen and SAF nail it. Definitely check out the Debka.com article thegr8_1 mentions. Did Jesse Jackson know about this when he made his comments, or just coincidence? And now Iran is talking about
being preemptive .
This article is the only explanation I’ve seen so far in both the media and in blogs that really makes sense of much of what Biden said.
Oct 22, 2008 - 10:17 pm 49. Marc Malone:Someone75 – Why am I so sure? Because he has shown time and time again by his statements that he doesn’t really know how the world works. Ivory Tower Syndrome. He’s never had to really work. Never been responsible for anything. Never run anything. He makes statements, then is always having to clarify and deny and lie, as opponents make it blindingly clear how wrong he is.
It doesn’t matter that he “has the judgment to keep us out of a war”. He won’t have a choice! If he has a choice, he’ll vacillate and equivocate, until too late. I know what I’m talking about.
Military history and tactics is my hobby. history is full of guys who make a decision by not making a decision. The Kaiser in WWI, and France during the remilitarization of the Rhineland are two examples. If I’m the other guy, Obama is an outright gift! Everything I’ve ever wanted to do, but America’s presence has prevented, I’m going to do. I guarantee it, and so does Biden.
Maybe Biden WAS just trying to get attention. But maybe, after getting classified info, and discussing it with Obama, he himself went, “Whoa!” He has steadily maintained Obama’s unreadiness. Perhaps, Biden was doing his patriotic duty and warning us all. The guy deserves a medal.
Someone75, please be honest. You and I, we have been debating back and forth for awhile now. Think about sitting down to a poker table, for example. What’s the rule? “If you don’t know who the sucker is, you’re it.” Ask yourself, could you beat Obama at Poker? What would be your honest assessment of him at that time? Then think of how these foreign leaders would see him.
We should all be more than a bit scared.
Oct 22, 2008 - 10:32 pm 50. Marc Malone:Jim Baker – You’re right and you’re wrong. The problem is, the public obviously doesn’t care about the associations. they don’t. They care only about their damned pocketbooks, nothing else.
McCain tried and tried to get traction on this, but all he accomplished was to bring down his own approval ratings. Unless the MSM is willing to pursue the story to give it credence, he just suffers from rope-a-dope.
“Joe the Plumber” got the MSM to indulge the story. Good or bad, they helped make it a legitimate issue, and the race tightened. When Palin was nominated, although they thrashed her, McCain moved ahead. The financial crisis wiped that out. Now she’s making a comeback.
Biden’s “gaffe”, is taking hold just a bit. The MSM is covering it just a bit, and it brings foreign policy back into the race, and benefits McCain. If it continues just a bit more, it can be a winner.
People forget about foreign affairs in hard finanical times, unless something alarms them in that arena. Biden’s statement did just that. Remember, he’s on the ticket to provide foreign policy experience. That’s the meme. Obama made it that way, and so, has to live with it. He can’t disavow it; only spin it.
Oct 22, 2008 - 10:45 pm 51. rachel peepers:The Democrats just hit back to back homeruns for McCain/Palin.
First, Joe Biden steps up to the plate and blasts a 400 footer “mark my words” blooper how our enemies early on in Barack’s Presidency, are going to “test” Barack Obama in ways that’ll scare the daylights out of us.
Then CNN’s Darrin Griffin, grabs a bat and tries rhetocially to hit Sarah Palin over the head with it, making up a question that he lies was written in National Review. Then both CNN and Griffin refuse to apologize for this poster child example of liberal media bias.
Thanks to these two mind-blowing events, McCain/Palin are rounding third and heading for home on their way to an improbable 9th inning Presidential election victory.
Even with the complicity of the mainstream media, McCain/Palin are about to make one of the greatest comebacks in political history.
This just in.
The Barack spaceship to the stars just minutes ago sent an urgent message back to earth.
“Houstan, New York, Pittsburg, Cleveland, St. Louis and all points east, west, north and south,”We have a problem.”
Oh, well, as John Edwards, said fairly recently, “The best laid plans of mice and men sometimes go awry, and you end up standing there looking in the mirror and seeing nothing but pie.”
Credits:
Footnote to Robert Burns.
Metaphor by Rachel Peepers
Incompetence by the Barack campaign.
One last thought, Barry.
If you can’t run a campaign, you’re not ready to be running a country.
Oct 22, 2008 - 11:53 pm 52. LauraWelch:Have any of you listened to the full, 17 minute speech he gave to donors at that dinner, this past week-end? I have, and I can tell you, Sen. Biden was not in his usual “gaffe” mood. The atmosphere was actually quite sombre when he spoke. From what I could gather, Biden said that foreign powers would create a generated international crisis. He even said “mark my words”, in order to be emphatic that it would happen within the first 6 months of Obama’s presidency. He was quite clear that he could name 5 or 6 places where it could come from, most likely the Middle East or Russia. He was also stating that people would become disillusioned with Obama and that his supporters would wonder why they were “so down in the polls”. It looks like, with the first big crisis, the mask would come off, and people would see Obama’s true colours. He was begging people that when that time comes, to “stick with us” and to not lose their faith in Obama, like they have now. I think this was NOT a mistake speech delivered by Biden. He was not his usual hokey self and his voice was grave. It is like he was giving a subtle verbal nudge to people that McCain would be a far better President. The outside world sees Obama as weak, a person that would cave under pressure. Obama has stated, in his two best-selling books, that if the political winds were to turn ugly, he would side with the Muslims against the West. I think Biden sees the truth in Obama, and he is saying, what is under the mask, is not pretty. People would never attack America with McCain at the helm. We would be safer with him as President. I hope this analysis helps everyone here. Regards to everyone!
Oct 23, 2008 - 12:06 am 53. Ed Wallis:Foreign countries do not have the impetus to “test the mettle” of a leader with integrity.
A candidate who has so little integrity that he does not feel it necessary for his campaign to BEHAVE LEGALLY is NOT such a person:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/who-is-john-gal.html
Oct 23, 2008 - 1:31 am 54. Marc Malone:Rachel Peepers – You forgot the gift by Murtha that is providing so much… Murth!
The peeps in PA are racist. Oh, no, I meant redneck! The whole race is coming down to PA, and Murtha says something so dumb! Oh, sure, let’s remind them of “bitterly clinging to guns and religion”. Next he’ll call them inbred or white trash. Hilarious!
Oct 23, 2008 - 1:49 am 55. DN:There were two scenario not mentioned here which I saw on the web (IMO, less probable):
Oct 23, 2008 - 2:33 am 56. vivo:1) persistent rumours about Kim Jong-il’s stroke.
2) reinstating draft.
Both O’Bama or Mc’Cain (or ANY president) don’t make decisions all by themselves. They have advisors, Cabinet members, Senate and Congress to depend upon. Especially in a crisis.
Maybe Mc’Cain would start shooting from the hip and then say, “Oh, I screwed up”. See Letterman on 10/20. We all know that. So, pipe it down
So let’s go to the real issues: O’Palin rehashed definition of vicepresidential duties . . .
No. better yet, her beauty queen wardrobe . . .
Or is it hockey mom’s?
Oct 23, 2008 - 3:06 am 57. SAF:Someone75:
First let me say that I don’t like Obama’s politics and won’t vote for him.
But i think he has been extremely smart and even brilliant at bringing his campaign to what could be a great victory for him. And he has been running for this office for many years. All his planning and everything he has done and said has been calculated to get the office of the presidency.
But getting the job doesn’t mean that you can do the job. We just need look at the current occupant for verification of that concept. Disliked by both the people who voted for him and against him Bush has done many things wrong.
So looking into Obama’s past I don’t see anything that makes me believe he will do the right thing with foreign policy. Others in this thread have documented those reasons and I won’t belabor it.
I will add this one point: I think he has clearly shown that he is a great student of American politics and has clearly figured out how to win a contest in this environment. Spent a lot of time thinking about it. The rest of the world is a different place and he has not, evidently, given it much thought. So I believe the argument that he is unprepared (forget about whether you agree with his philosophy or not) is quite valid simply because he hasn’t had to work at it and hasn’t worked at it.
Oct 23, 2008 - 3:08 am 58. susim:Definition of a gaffe: One of the rare occasions when a politician goes off script and tells the truth. Even a broken clock like Biden, is right twice a day.
Oct 23, 2008 - 3:29 am 59. Peg C.:Obama is the candidate of those who believe either that Bush brought down the WTC, not terrorists, or that terrorists did it but were right due to the evil of America and oh yeah, America was founded by terrorists anyway. This, and people who cannot name Obama’s veep choice, any of his policies or in fact think at all, are his constituency.
I’m extremely concerned about all that Obama would do (talk, wring hands) and not do were numerous bad actors to attack Israel, Ukraine, Taiwan, etc. However, in the case of serious domestic attacks (meaning not just the Bill Ayers types blowing themselves up – something I wish for), it is inconceivable that Obama and his cadre of lefty advisors would do what was right. The outrage and turmoil resulting in our own populace is painful to imagine. If Democrats had any brains left they’d be extremely concerned about Obama ruining what remains of their party for decades to come.
Obama sees our allies as enemies and our enemies as allies. What does that tell us about how he will react – to anything?
Oct 23, 2008 - 3:29 am 60. Len Frankel:“What does he mean when he says ‘it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right’?”
Oct 23, 2008 - 3:54 am 61. SAF:It means “the test” will come in the Middle East. It’s too soon for Iran, they don’t have the Bomb to wave around yet. But the timing’s perfect to employ their stand-off Arab proxies in Syria, Lebanon and Gaza who are looking at a very vulnerable target – Israel. The country is a mess with its people dispirited and cynical and its leadership (including military) weak, inept and second-guessing their cause. What’s more, Israel got caught looking with the bases loaded the last time up. Add a President Barack HUSSEIN Obama to that mix and the temptation for the Arabs to “generate” a crisis with Israel – and force Pres. Obama to choose sides – will be too great to resist. It will be another battle where Israel will be defending itself against irregulars fighting from civilian areas, and in those circumstances Obama is likely to tilt toward the Arabs. That would fulfill Biden’s enigmatic prediction, “it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right” and that Obama will “need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him” and support an historic, radical change of course.
Peggy C:
I concur and would add that it is a testament to his campaigning skills that he harnessed all these people to help him get elected.
But to all those who think he has shown good judgment you need to look at the bad judgment he has exhibited especially as outlined by Peggy C.
Right after 911 I was with a group of people who included a beautiful woman. She went on to espouse how we deserved 911 because of how rich we are. I asked her “if you dressed provocatively and got raped did it mean you were looking for it and that it was your fault and not the rapists?” She said it wasn’t the same thing.
America’s biggest problem is how divided we are as a nation. I don’t see how Obama gets us together.
Oct 23, 2008 - 3:55 am 62. Allston:Marc Malone:
How true that all is. Obama is a rank neophyte at Geopolitics and Biden is no prize either; their stated plans for our future security are truly witless. No doubt the Mullahs are cackling with glee about now, and ascribing our imminent downfall to the will of Allah.
In that last, they’re wrong. It should be ascribed to the woefully delusional among us who are going to vote for Obama.
We should be very worried indeed.
Oct 23, 2008 - 4:24 am 63. Broadsword:“If so, President Obama would have to do something. What? ” He has two options for action. He can talk about it. Or, he will talk about it. (There’s an outside chance he will blame either President Bush or Zachary Taylor.) Or he could talk about what he’s always believed, and talk about that, and tell us what he means, and meant to say. There, two options.
Oct 23, 2008 - 4:30 am 64. Peter the Sub Guy:“49. vivo:
No. better yet, her beauty queen wardrobe . . . Or is it hockey mom’s?”
Hey, vivo, have you asked The One how much his suits are going for? Pretty nice duds for just a lawyer, huh?
Oct 23, 2008 - 4:46 am 65. Chris in Toronto:Re: #17 cfbleachers:
Another great one. I’d like to ask how the Palin “dis-invitation” plays into this. It makes sense to me. I didn’t know the background you provided, so thank you. I did,/i> know about Malley (in my defense) and that incident turned me anti-Obama.
Or, I guess more precisely, that and Powers and Goolsbee—I just looked it up for chronology (May 2 or so) and found that most-everybody spells it incorrectly. (Coincidentally, most MSM reporters, perhaps because the NYT got it wrong in initial report, spell it incorrectly as Goolsby.) So, it was the trifecta of early advisors that turned me against Obama back in May.
Thanks, again.
Oct 23, 2008 - 5:21 am 66. Terry Gain:“Why exactly do you think he’s going to screw up so terribly? He’s said he’s more than willing to go to war, if necessary.”
Someone 75
Because when America was at war with Al Qaeda in Iraq (and winning that war) Obama wanted to withdraw and concede oil-rich Iraq to Al Qaeda and Iraq.
Is that exact enough for you?
Oct 23, 2008 - 5:35 am 67. joe:It would almost be worth it if Palin said it. Then, at least we’d have some real news from the Lefties instead of – how much did her clothes cost. Geez.
Oct 23, 2008 - 5:44 am 68. ursa5000:Immigration issues have been completely missing from this campaign. Missing heck, these issues have been sealed in a steel barrel and sunk in middle of the Pacific Ocean.
My questions on these issues:
“Senator Obama, does your heath care plan also cover the costs for such expensive medical treatment as cardiac surgery and chemotherapy for illegal aliens who entered the United States without documentation? Why should the American taxpayer fund extensive medical treatments, beyond basic emergency care, for illegal aliens?”
“Senator Obama, should illegal aliens be allowed to enroll on organ transplant lists before American citizens?”
“Senator Obama, La Raza and MALDEF are some of your largest supporters in the Hispanic community? Do you agree with their charter that the American Southwest was stolen from Mexico, and should be returned?”
“Senator Obama, under your so called tax cuts, will illegal aliens also receive US taxpayer dollars, even if they don’t currently pay taxes?”
“Senator Obama, do you continue to support drivers licenses for illegal aliens?”
“Senator Obama, will you promise today NOT grant amnesty to the 25 million illegal aliens currently in this country during your administration?”
“Senator Obama, will your administration support higher legal immigration from Muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Pakistan? Will you also support increasing the number of student visas from Muslim countries?”
Well, we know that not a single member of any national or local news outlet will ever ask such questions of “That One!”
A comparable series of questions about the Second Amendment would also be be very enlightening.
Oct 23, 2008 - 5:54 am 69. Quote of the Day: Michael Ledeen on Joe Biden | ChooseTheHero.com:[...] “I have long said that Senator Biden is one of the dimmest bulbs in that great overdone chand… [...]
Oct 23, 2008 - 6:01 am 70. Saltherring:SAF @ 50 says:
“But i think he has been extremely smart and even brilliant at bringing his campaign to what could be a great victory for him. And he has been running for this office for many years. All his planning and everything he has done and said has been calculated to get the office of the presidency.”
I contend it is relatively simple to orchestrate a successful campaign if 95% of the “news” media is in the tank for you. I mean, when the man on the street can ask you a simple question that makes you stutter….a question that should have been asked and answered multiple times in the preceding two years….. Couple the onboard media with seemingly endless sources of campaign money (foreign?) and you render any smooth-talking, empty suit a winner, at least in our dimwitted, Hollywood-driven culture.
Oct 23, 2008 - 6:15 am 71. Saltherring:Rachel peepers @ 31 says:
“Obama’s hair trigger, wet behind the ears response, was to characterize both counties as moral equivalents. That’s like saying Germany’s September 1, 1939 invasion of Poland was the fault of both counties….
…..So what’s Obama’s problem. I think it’s more than a lack of experience.
The poor guy can’t seem to distinguish right from wrong”
Bingo! And in a Democrat Party driven by moral relevancy (e.g., perceived separation of church and state) and situational ethics (e.g., ACORN), you have a winner! And perhaps a winner on Nov. 4th, if America follows the Democrat Pied Piper into the sewer.
Oct 23, 2008 - 6:25 am 72. SkipKent:“Watch. We’re going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.
“And he’s going to need help . . . to stand with him. Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”
2 things stood out to me the very first time I read/heard this.
1. “a generated crisis”
What? Generated by whom? Is someone already planning some sort of show-stopper even to allow Obama to ‘prove’ himself somehow? There’s a side to this response which the tin-foil hat side of me does not like at all.
2. “Because it’s not going to be apparent initially; it’s not going to be apparent that we’re right.”
This sounds to me like he/they have a particular response in mind that they believe people will find difficult and need help in ’swallowing’. Martial law? Re-instatement of the draft?
Paranoid, sure, but that’s what came to mind when I first read it. I see them poising to create an event to which Obama can respond with some sort of drastic counter-measure. Something which would make wire tapping look like a legitimate hobby.
Oct 23, 2008 - 6:39 am 73. jerryofva:Looks like someone is being stupid again. Someone brought up Palin’s explanation of the role of The Vice President. Palin’s description of the roles and authorities of the Vice President are correct. They come right from the Constitution. It is Joe Biden as well as this nobody person who don’t have a clue about what the VP does.
Someone also has this idea that invading Pakistan as the great military leader Barak Obama has suggested is the way to go. You know what they say, “Amateurs talk tactics but professionals talk logistics.” If we invaded Pakistan as Obama has suggested in the past all Pakistan would have to do to thwart our campaign is cut off our supplies, all of which flow through Pakistan. I think this is the sort of thing that Biden meant when he suggested that a President would be tested and he would screw up. On national security Obama doesn’t even rate amateur status. He is totally uninformed.
Sure a President has advisors but look at who he relies on for national security advice. The likes of jew-hating Susan Powers and Merrill McPeak will have his ear. That should inspire confidence in his ability to make the right decision. And of course his trusty sidekick Joe Biden will be there to give him the best advice.
Oct 23, 2008 - 7:49 am 74. A.W.:i will quibble that biden was very specifically saying obama would be tested, but by implication, mccain would not be.
Oct 23, 2008 - 8:12 am 75. GayPatriot » How Quickly the Media Forget Biden’s Gaffes:[...] Michael Ledeen: “But imagine if Palin had said such a thing [Biden's Seattle gaffe]. We’d have a million column i…“ (Via [...]
Oct 23, 2008 - 9:02 am 76. Terry Gain:“The poor guy can’t seem to distinguish right from wrong”
QED. Infanticide, Rezko, Wright, Ayers, Odinga, surrendering Iraq to al Qaeda while pretending he would do something about Darfur, all the campaign lies including tax reductions for people who don’t pay taxes etc etc etc.
An Obama presidency. A disaster beyond imagining.
Oct 23, 2008 - 9:03 am 77. Cybergeezer:Yes sir; Barack Obama is the I:
Oct 23, 2008 - 9:56 am 78. cfbleachers:Incompetent
Ignorant
Indeterminate
Indolent
Incapable
Incendiary
Inept
Indecisive
Incoherent
Inconnu
Inconsistent
Inconsiderate
Chris in Toronto, thank you for the kind words. Governor Palin being disinvited was a crass political cheap shot. I didn’t read much more into it at the time.
The Obama campaign seems geared for a showdown with Israel. It’s a powderkeg dynamic. It is abundantly clear that Senator Obama has assembled a team that has Jimmy Carter written all over it. This Carterian Cartel reads from the Walt and Mearsheimer bible.
As Iran moves toward their nuclear end game, Israel is confronted with a Hobson’s Choice. I have a present sense impression…based on nothing more than deductive logic and reading the tea leaves, that Israel is going to get handed a cold, wet, fish to the face from an Obama administration. “Give up this and give back that, tear down this and open up that…..or we will move our relationships in a new direction”.
One merely has to study closely the positions of Brzezinski, McPeak, Power, Malley, Bonior to get a flavor of the direction they would advise the Obama administration take.
Add in some “impossible to know” factors…and it pours airplane fuel on the fire. It is impossible to know what the real relationship with Rashid Khalidi was, or is, but it is “something” to be sure. It is impossible to know precisely what relationship existed with the late Edward Said. Or Khalid al Mansour. Or even Farrakhan.
None of these folks, if there is indeed any residue of relationship still breathing inside the Obama inner circle…would be good news for those of us who are strong advocates and/or supporters of Israel and the Jewish community.
It is impossible to know how Rev. Jackson came to believe that the “Zionists” would have substantially less influence in an Obama administration. It is hard to believe that Jackson has zero contact, with zero people, having zero knowledge about the inner working and beliefs of the Obama campaign. It strains credulity to believe that he has nobody on the inside. Since the corrupt press won’t dig for answers, we will never know.
Suffice it to say…if you look at the lifelong associations of Senator Obama (Wright, Pfleger, etc.) and then you look at the Carterian Cartel he has assembled, there is legitimate cause for concern.
Oct 23, 2008 - 12:34 pm 79. Marc Malone:The above comments again remind me of how stupid Jews would have to be to vote for Obama. Doesn’t just his name make them suspicious enough to dig deeper? Sure, we’re insane for voting for him, but our own doom isn’t quite as obvious. The Jewish fate depends a great deal on the goodwill of the American President. This is so obvious, you would think it wouldn’t even need stating.
Oct 23, 2008 - 12:47 pm 80. Winston:Biden is a disaster
Oct 23, 2008 - 2:02 pm 81. view from afar:Thank you SAF I have been wondering too, isn’t Obama alot like all of us disillusioned, but had such high hopes for George W? (I lost any of the esteem I had for the guy when he pushed the bank’s early Christmas present=as my English friends have said he’d make a great grandfather, but not so sure about President) ALL of the brilliant lights with the Christmas is coming type feelings, but no one knows for sure what’s in the Obama package? Scary talk about not re-voting Bush…
Oct 23, 2008 - 2:20 pm 82. Alireza:I don’t care WHAT anyone thinks of whomever, not voting doesn’t prove anything other than you’re a poor loser, pick the person who is best qualified even if you don’t just love any particular canadidate(please keep mind the above). Not voting is just the worst, you definitely give away all of your freedoms instead of just a few you think you might lose…
For those who believe voting for Obama means voting against Jewish interests, it reminds me of somewhat similar case that happened in 2000.
When Al Gore decided to have Lieberman as his VP, the Arab-Americans thought Palestinians would be moved to Saudi Arabia by having a Jewish VP in power!
They didn’t know what was cooking for them by holly-blessed Jesus-loving Bush!!!…LOL….So majority (I guess 99.9999% of Arab-Americans) of them decided to vote for the Bush, who was a Jesus-loving man. We all know what a great time Middle East is having in the last 8 years…
Now for those Jews who believe having the middle name given to Obama by his father, might go against Israel, they will make the same mistake that Arab-Americans did in 2000. And most of them thought how smart they were..LOL…!!!!
Moral of the story: Stop prejudging people by their religious or ethnic association. I know it is hard to ask people like Marc Malone or Winston, but I thought at least remind people what’s waiting for them if that ANGRY McCain with his high price VP model gets to the White House. Then I’ll say: I told you so.
As far as Biden, despite all the flaws he has, AT LEAST, AT LEAST if he make a mistake, he is so brave, honest to come out and says: I screwed up! Come on guys. Having that much willingness to admit your mistake is a MUST HAVE in leadership position.
Oct 23, 2008 - 2:34 pm 83. Babar, The Secret Policeman:#7, Mr. B., may I offer you a position in my administration?
Oct 23, 2008 - 2:56 pm 84. Jim C.:Obama’s already been tested. And he flunked.
Remember he said he’d meet with Ahmedinejad with no preconditions?
A few days ago the VP of Iran said it was in the USA’s interest to talk to them, not vice versa. So THEY have preconditions: withdraw from Iraq and end support of Israel.
He hasn’t been elected and he’s already been bitch-slapped.
Oct 23, 2008 - 4:24 pm 85. Andrew:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBX2ec7c81E
his gaffe and obama’s gaffe in San Francisco make for a lot of ammo for people
Oct 23, 2008 - 5:30 pm 86. jerryofva:Alireza:
Frist of all, in 2000 Gore got a majority of the Muslim vote. Most Arabs in the United States are Christians, not Muslims and they voted for Bush.
Second we don’t what Obama’s personal feeling toward the Jews really is but he keeps or has kept company with Father Coughlin in black and white (Wright and Pflegar), Palestinian terrorists, and anti-Semites like Susan Powers and Merrill McPeak. That doesn’t bode well for his feelings about Jews and Israel.
Oct 23, 2008 - 5:33 pm 87. Marc Malone:Jim C. – Actually, Obama just got B-slapped by his running mate! Ssscchhlaaappp! All Obama said was that Joe tends toward… something like hyperbolic rhetoric. He should have just slapped him down.
If Obama had simply said something like, “Biden shouldn’t have said anything like that, true or not, because it sends the wrong message to our enemies. I’ve repudiated him for it. Joe tends to run off at the mouth.”, then he’d've looked so strong. It was a golden opportunity to show the country who’s boss. He’d've looked so strong! It would’ve sealed the election.
What a wuss.
Oct 23, 2008 - 9:11 pm 88. Chip:The 1998 agreement between Israel and the USA to deal with potential Arab aggression is non-binding.
Saddam was heavily involved in recruiting Iraqi and Palestinian civilians to go into Palestine and Israel to become suicide bombers.
Have we heard about recent bombings in Israel now that Saddam doesn’t fund the families of the bombers anymore?
I think we are about to see a new Arab offensive and Obama, if elected, will do squat.
Oct 24, 2008 - 3:21 am 89. Noga:It is funny how the response to McCain’s failure to galvanize the American people into believing in him and his ideas is being interpreted as Jewish fault. As if the Jewish vote could turn around this elections.
I think this is a period when Jews finally will realize that no matter who they support, eventually the side they favour and the opposing side will both find something to blame them.
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Chip says:
“Have we heard about recent bombings in Israel now that Saddam doesn’t fund the families of the bombers anymore?”
The reduction in bombings is due to Israel’s pre emptive security measures, not Saddam Hussein’s fall. The fence, the checkpoints, the excursions, the targeted assassinations, are the reasons why there is relative quiet now. If anything, the failure to manage the war in Iraq properly has increased Israel’s insecurity. Bush did not go to war on Saddam at Israel’s behest. It’s a false thesis that even Mearsheimer and Walt are no longer pushing.
Oct 24, 2008 - 4:05 am 90. vivo:64. Peter the Sub Guy:
You didn’t get my drift: “So let’s go to the real issues: ”
These are NOT substantive issues . . .
Oct 24, 2008 - 4:16 am 91. Sandra M:Biden is a gift to McCain/Palin.
Murtha is a gift also, and I’m proud to say that I donated to his opponent, Lt. Col. William Russell early on. I also donated to Barney Franks’ opponent Earl Sholley.
But we have another gift in the offing. Michelle Obama will take over for Obama while he’s in Hawaii, and that should be worth 2 or 3 points.
We win!!!!
Oct 24, 2008 - 5:12 am 92. Tanna:no one suspects Martial Law?
Oct 24, 2008 - 6:57 am 93. David W. Lincoln:Michael, I hope you had an excellent time in Big Sky Country.
Let me add that Bernie Goldberg was onto something when he wrote his books, “Bias” and “Arrogance”.
A number of years ago, a politician up here in Canada said that women keep on changing the
rules, and when men catch up, the rules change
again. His name was David Dingwall, and he was a Liberal politician. Needless to say, the MSM gave it the same reaction that it is
giving to the liberties Joe Biden is taking seemingly every waking moment with the truth.
I used to think that it would take a politician to make a used car salesman look good by comparison. I guess I have to update
Oct 24, 2008 - 8:58 am 94. TeamPlayer:that definition by adding members of the MSM to the list.
Interesting FYI for you:
I was at a conference this past week and a fund manager relayed the results of a survey in which they asked their portfolio CEOs “Which candidate would improve your business’s prospects?”. Guess who came out the clear winner, from 40+ anonymous responses…Not Mr. TrickleDown.
Oct 24, 2008 - 9:44 am 95. Believer:“Biden Yet Again” equals Blessed Yet Again.
The guy, I’ve decided, is a true patriot. Only he doesn’t know it.
Americans are discovering – finally – what a nightmare an Obama/Biden presidency would be. Thank you, Joe.
If you think about it, the entire campaign – from the moment BO got on board – has been a nightmare. It’s because he brings with him all the stench of Chicago politics and his history of really bad friendships.
He can’t escape them. They are who he is. No fancy suit or pretty speech will change that reality.
The only way this man will get elected to higher office is if he wins this time. If he runs out the clock. If he keeps hidden the truth of who he is and what he really wants to do and fools the voter. It’s why he’s rushing them to the polls.
But, hopefully – now rather than later – the American public will see who he is and realize he has no business leading our great nation.
Oct 24, 2008 - 10:05 am 96. Believer:Just saw the McCain ad using Joe’s words of warning. VERY effective.
Patriot Joe. Little did ye know.
Oct 24, 2008 - 10:11 am 97. mnotaro:Oh can you EVEN imagine if Palin said what Biden did???!!! It would be front page of every newspaper in the country! But of course the lefty illuminati MSM don’t report on news if it doesn’t support Obama!
Oct 24, 2008 - 10:19 am 98. Believer:Oh, you gotta love Bill Clinton. Never thought I’d say it.
Just now heard he’s sent an EMAIL — so it’s more quickly public and far-reaching than a letter? — to supporters saying “give Obama a FILIBUSTER PROOF MAJORITY” !!!(emph. mine)
Americans don’t like one party having total control – they like checks and balances. Clinton is now reminding voters of that potential. And with the Dems in control of Congress – they’ll more likely vote a Republican president.
Thank you, Bill Clinton. I never thought you’d make me love you, but a man from Hawaii, via Illinois, has done it.
Oct 24, 2008 - 10:43 am 99. Ira Zad:Joe -the Euro Man–Biden is, of course, buddies with the European faction of Iran mullahs(it figures!); since both Biden and Kerry are personal and close buddies with Khatami of Iranian regime(whose own ties go back to Austria and Germany.) So Biden is not happy that the Khatamites are not in power in Iran right now, and will try to do anything he can as the VP to bring back the Khatamites(Euro-mullahs) into power in Tehran. Another words, Biden loves a pig with lipstick on.
Biden has no intention of regime change in Iran, quite the opposite, Biden wants to preserve the Iranian regime, albeit under types like Khatami and Rafsanjani both with European ties.
Joe Biden has long been the advocate of EU policy inside our US senate. Kerry, too. Both known European free masons with a mission.
So, I doubt it if Joe Biden will want Hussein Obama to ever do “anything” about Iran. In fact he wants Hussein Obama to do exactly the opposite about Iran: “Nothing”.
Oct 24, 2008 - 4:03 pm 100. GREG:U.S. Catholic Bishop Rene H. Gracida Releases Radio Ad Stating no Catholic can Vote for Barack Obama in Good Conscience
Oct 24, 2008 - 7:22 pm 101. Alireza:Contact: Randall Terry, 904-687-9804
MEDIA ADVISORY, October 24 /Christian Newswire/ — Today – perhaps in an eleventh hour answer to prayer for the unborn – Bishop Rene H. Gracida has released a stunning radio ad concerning Catholics voting for Barack Obama. His ad is recorded in English and Spanish.
Bishop Gracida boldly states:
“This is Bishop Rene H. Gracida, reminding all Catholics that they must vote in this election with an informed conscience. A Catholic cannot be said to have voted in this election with a good conscience if they have voted for a pro-abortion candidate. Barack Hussein Obama is a pro-abortion candidate.”
The commercial can be heard in English and Spanish at http://www.randallterry.com.
Bishop Gracida has offered this radio spot without charge for all who want to use it. All faithful Catholics are invited to download the mp3 file, and place this ad on their local radio station(s).
They must simply contact their local radio station(s), and pay for the ad as an “independent expenditure.” The station can download the audio file to play on the radio. The mp3 file is also available at http://www.randallterry.com.
Moreover, permission is granted for the ad to be downloaded, sent as a file, or posted on any web site in America.
If this ad receives the airplay it deserves, it could sink Obama’s campaign by jolting Catholic voters back to their senses and moorings. Over 50% of Catholic voters have been seduced into ethical quicksand by errant Catholics who are partisan supporters of Obama and have betrayed the lives of innocent unborn children.
It looks like I might have the last words for this section. So here I go:
I’m so glad many of you people are in minority in U.S.
You and your thinking has brought so much pain, sufferings and financial loss here and everywhere around the world.
You do no favor yourself or anyone else. You people are excellent in trashing others and name-callings. But as I said, you are the small part of this great country.
Your twins live and do similar things in Iran and Israel. You may think you are not like “those” people, but I beg you to believe me that you are so much like the ultra right in other parts of the world. The difference is the language, religion and the way you dress and your social class. But at the DNA level it is similar fear spreading and hate for others.
Please believe me. I’m telling you the truth. Please.
So I’m glad we are entering a new era, if God forbid no October Surprise happens in the next 10 days, which Republicans are MASTERS of it, which without it they will NEVER NEVER NEVER can win even a city council election, let alone a national election.
Oct 25, 2008 - 9:59 am 102. Marc Malone:Ali Reza – No one cares what an Arab thinks, except as an indicator of what not to do.
vivo – THIS is Not a substantive issue?!? National Security is not a substantive issue?!? What constitutes a substantive issue in Liberal minds, then? Oh, I know, whichever issue is most favorable to Obama. All else is “off-limits”.
TeamPlayer – I don’t find that little survey interesting. CEO’s have been giving to the Dems in preference to the Pubs since the Mid-90’s. So have lawyers… and the AMA… and pharmaceuticals…. They are simply more easily bribed. It’s like the joke of the difference between an Arab and a Jew. they’ll both sell you their mothers, but the Arab will deliver. The Dems deliver.
Anyone notice the $25B bailout for the auto companies last month, with another one promised? Banks rushed to be “bailed out”, whether they needed it or not. All that free money. Of course they support the Dems.
If the survey had been among their small-business owners, I’m sure it would’ve been another thing entirely.
The other thing is, I wonder if that wasn’t just another Obama supporter just doing his thing. Take your pick of explanations. Probably both are correct.
Oct 25, 2008 - 3:24 pm 103. Larry C.:Hello,
Isn’t Joe Biden one of the original “STOOGES”. Hey Moe, Hey Larry, Hey Joe, I might be confused, but maybe that is the reason why he is so crazy all the time, or is it he was one of the first to write cartoons for the “LOONEY-TUNES” cartoons, I don’t know anymore. I think that is what is so much appealing to a whole lot of people to him. Right!!!! What do the people in the state of Delaware see in him?, and I know what the managers in the local Dunkin-Doughnuts see in him, and that is not a whole lot. Now for the rest of the story we are about to get screwed again, and thanks to all the people in this country that have no idea what they are voting for, and that is the real reason why America is so screwed up. May God Almighty have Mercy on us.
Thanks,
Oct 26, 2008 - 2:52 am 104. AdrianS:Larry C.
The extensive broadening of John McCain’s presidential popularity.
http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=75
Is it Obamalies or Lies Obama tells?
Oct 26, 2008 - 1:36 pm 105. Pat J:http://www.nextgenerationcorp.com/NextGenBlog/?p=73
Amazing this website even gives Michael Ledeen an opportunity to spout his opinion. This man has zero credibility. He was knee deep in the Iran-Contra scandal, accused of being involved in the yellowcake forgery, and a warmonger.
Biden was right. The new president will be tested. Even the Pentagon agrees with Biden’s assessment. Some would consider it a gaffe. Other say its common sense.
Oct 28, 2008 - 8:12 am