Comments on: Cheney and Obama: the Great Evasion

By: Fat Man

Fat Man — Tue, 26 May 2009 02:13:52 +0000

I know this is OT, but I have no other way to communicate with Dr. Ledeen. I read: “Have We Already Lost Iran?” by Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett, Op-Ed Contributors, in the NYTimes on May 24, 2009. I was quite concerned by the article, and I was hoping that Dr. Ledeen would read it and debunk it.

By: Ira Zad

Ira Zad — Tue, 26 May 2009 00:08:38 +0000

Monday May 25th; Iran regime sends 6 war ships to Gulf of Aden in aggressive military move.
It seems the Iranian regime is emboldened by recent US appeasement, not softened its stance. Perhaps NATO signaled to its lap dog regime in Tehran to be bolder and more aggressive now so they can start off a war inside Iran(althouh Russia has not allowed this in a recent meeting in Moscow). NATO still has the plan of Iran’s disintegration, and with a war flaming in Iran, NATO could finally implement its 80-year plan of the break-up of Iran into many Iranestans.
Either way, we hope the Islamic Regime will be history in the end. But so may Iran as we know it today.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521730,00.html?test=latestnews

By: Ira Zad

Ira Zad — Mon, 25 May 2009 22:13:30 +0000

…one thing is increasingly clear: Barack Obama is not about to lift a finger to stop Iran from developing the bomb. And neither is Hillary Clinton.

The Death of Israel: http://www.newsmax.com/morris/nuclear_iran_israel/2009/05/24/217793.html

By: Lawrence Kohn

Lawrence Kohn — Mon, 25 May 2009 03:46:21 +0000

To Pastor of Muppets: Iran was not strengthened by Sadaam’s overthrow. Beginning with the end of Desert Storm despite the millions killed on both sides in the Iran Iraq War, Iraq made a rapprochement with Iran. First came flying Iraqi jets to Iran during Desert Storm. Then came Uday Sadaam’s son meeting with Iranians and developing a joint strategy with Iran and Syria (also its rival previously). When Sadaam was captured Iran tried to undo the American victory via Sadaar’s militia but eventually failed. It tried to infiltrate eastern Iraq and kill American soliders but has taken significant losses. It tried to use the bungling American military strategy post Sadaam’s fall and pre Petraeus strategy to move quickly to a nuclear bomb. Here it is succeeding; Bush seemed paralyzed in term II and fell back on papa Bush style strategy now adopted by the current President. But as QED said W Bush did manage to surround Iran west and East and if Obama does not precipitously move out and if he wakes up in time after Iran rebuffs his gestures towards the mullahs then the original strategy of going into Iraq will have been vindicated from a broadly strategic view. In any case with Mohammed Atta’s two meetings with Sadaam’s intell agent, with Shakir Sadaam’s man at the key Malaysian Jan 2000 planning meeting with two AQ highjackers before they entered the US, with the Iraqi intell/ AQ meeting in Feb/March 1998 and the delivery of diplomatic passports from Sadaam’s men to Bin Laden in Afghanistan and the training of Saudi terrorists in southern Iraq in 1999, and Sadaam’s harboiring the Yasin after he helped bomg the Trade Center in 1993, Sadaam had to gol.

By: a Duoist

a Duoist — Sun, 24 May 2009 18:12:30 +0000

The enemy is not Iran, and it is not the Iranian people. The enemy is the very popular and dangerous idea in the three Abrahamic salvific religions that a broad sense of public disaffection can be ameliorated by politics of revenge which will ‘purify’ the danger from without by consolidating power within.

The politics of revenge is called ‘fascism,’ and its theofascist form in Iran makes Iranian political theory, “the learned jurisprudent,” lethal and homicidal. Mr. Cheney and Mr. Obama will never be able to articulate how to fight a lethal enemy if they have no idea who the enemy actually is.

By: whiskey

whiskey — Sun, 24 May 2009 02:45:26 +0000

Pastor –

Obama is doing the same thing as Bush: renditions up the wazoo, holding people forever without trial, and so on. In the meantime he’s suggested Banana Republic type show trials for Bush for doing the SAME EXACT THING and made sure the CIA knows it too will be undergoing Pelosi-led show trials for doing EXACTLY what the President and Pelosi asked.

This means as a practical matter no one is going to do anything but ask nicely with a lawyer present (if that) regarding whatever stray Pakistani or Iranian nuke is headed in a shipping container for NYC or a city near you.

Result: millions and perhaps tens of millions (in follow-on nuke attacks) of Americans will die, and for the survival of the REST of our cities America will be forced to wipe out all of Iran and Pakistan (since we won’t know who sent the nuke).

You’re worried about “torture” and other irrelevant, stupid, and foolish things. What ought to concern you is the very real, and pressing threat, of nuclear blasts incinerating millions of Americans, and frying millions more into near cinders to die an agonizing death, and millions more to die slowly of radiation poisoning. Not to mention turning our great cities into a radioactive hole in the ground.

And you’re worrying about pouring water up the nose of the Architect of 9/11? Heck most Americans would figure he should get what he dealt out to his victims: doused with jet fuel, set on fire, and dropped 88 stories onto the ground. THAT would be to good for the guy, who personally beheaded Daniel Pearl (for being a Jew). Not to mention his plan carried out on 9/11.

Most Americans (that’s excluding the feminized, Oprah-ized, feeling/metrosexual inhabitants of Liberal Land) would figure that guy should have been set on fire and dropped. Right into the Center of Gitmo to encourage the rest of them to talk.

We are at war. With Muslims. Pretty much all of them. They’re not like us — they’re polygamist dark age savages. Because of the polygamy. A few men have all the women, the rest have none. So they kill in suicide attacks to get women in paradise, or engage in mass murder to become bigshot Big Men themselves. They’re not gonna change, ever. So our job is to keep them from nuking our cities.

Once we lose deterrence and dominance, and we lose a city to nuking, it will happen again and again and again, until we simply wipe out to the last man, woman, and child, the nations that might plausibly be involved. This on a lower scale is what Putin faced after Beslan, and the examples HE made (half of Chechnya slaughtered, all of Grozny leveled, ALL his critics shot in elevators or drinking polonium tea) ought to scare the hell out of you.

Far better to use REAL torture, not water up the nose, to scare the hell out of Jihadis and get real intel. Set em on fire, why not, they did it to us.

Your feminized, metrosexual, Oprah-esque desire to be loved is only going to get millions of Americans killed, and perhaps half a billion Muslims in the end slaughtered as a matter of National Survival.

By: Pat J

Pat J — Sun, 24 May 2009 02:45:11 +0000

Ledeen = warmonger

By: Jassem Othman

Jassem Othman — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:33:02 +0000

The U.S. National Security and your civil values are seriously threatened, and your life is daily endangered as long as there is a fundamentalist Islam on the earth, and so long as the terror masters are moving freely in the Middle East.
Unfortunately more than 74 % of earth wealth “Global Oil” is under the Islamist fascist’s footfall and pro-evil States.
We must destroy them and bring down all the pro-evil regimes that anti-the USA and anti-Israel.

Jassem Othman, Syrian, extremely an American patriot and extremely pro-Americans Right Wing – Poland.

By: Jassem Othman

Jassem Othman — Sat, 23 May 2009 19:39:45 +0000

The Iranians and Syrians and Saudis and their proxies have been killed you in your own homeland “USA”, in Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Gaza, Pakistan, Yemen, Kuwait, and Sudan and they still killing you in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere in the world. They all are working together to harm the US’s interests in the region and to undermine the U.S. influence on the earth. And though, it became hard on minds of some American policy-makers, diplomats, journalists, and leading pundits to remind in all atrocious acts that happened against the USA. The Evil Regimes and their proxies still waging war against you, it is a real war but in a various strategy tactics!!!
Unfortunately, some western governments became accomplice to evil, and that evil regimes brought shamefully some policy-makers to their knees.

Today President Obama would like to be the savior’s president of the US through the policy of appeasement and humiliation i.e. “the policy of demolition” that certainly will bring the U.S. to serious consequences.
THEY FOCUS JUST ON INSIGNIFICANT ISSUES RATHER THAN THE VERY HIGH-RISK ISSUES. THIS IS THE GREAT AMERICA, TODAY. ALAS!!!

Dr Ledeen, None are so blind as those who will not see.
Jassem Othman, Syrian – Poland

By: Andy B.

Andy B. — Sat, 23 May 2009 16:35:06 +0000

Agreed, Iran seems to be the root of all the issues currently (and not so currently) arising from the middle east. If Iran were ‘minimized’ the gas continuously being thrown on the fire of radical islam would undoubtedly be quenched. It’s going to take more than what we’ve had for a couple decades in leadership to end them, let alone realize that ultimately they can’t profit from continuing the way they are.