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		<title>By: Iran &#171; Tarpon&#8217;s Swamp</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-10548</link>
		<dc:creator>Iran &#171; Tarpon&#8217;s Swamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] best summary of why is provided by Michael Ledeen at Pajamas media. Search Pajama&#8217;s Media for the latest [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WRW</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-10037</link>
		<dc:creator>WRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you sound a little Jack Bauer-ish, and I like it. Hurrah! I really support and believe in the people&#039;s desire for some sort of freedom in Iran. But history agrees with your statement: &quot;When the choice becomes islam or the West, what we’ve seen time and time again, is that muslims invariably choose islam.&quot; Its like an abused child who won&#039;t run away from the abuser because the familiar, no matter how bad, is often perceived to be more comforting, more safe, than the unknown. The Iranian people need courage to go WAY beyond what you call &quot;street theater&quot; and make some real change that isn&#039;t orchestrated by the mullahs. &quot;Tell me when mullahs are being slaughtered in the streets, when they’re running for their lives ahead of mobs intent on ripping them limb from limb.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you sound a little Jack Bauer-ish, and I like it. Hurrah! I really support and believe in the people&#8217;s desire for some sort of freedom in Iran. But history agrees with your statement: &#8220;When the choice becomes islam or the West, what we’ve seen time and time again, is that muslims invariably choose islam.&#8221; Its like an abused child who won&#8217;t run away from the abuser because the familiar, no matter how bad, is often perceived to be more comforting, more safe, than the unknown. The Iranian people need courage to go WAY beyond what you call &#8220;street theater&#8221; and make some real change that isn&#8217;t orchestrated by the mullahs. &#8220;Tell me when mullahs are being slaughtered in the streets, when they’re running for their lives ahead of mobs intent on ripping them limb from limb.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9888</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the start of GW&#039;s tenure, Ledeen&#039;s policy proposals should have been acted on.

As late as 2003 there were still real chances for Ledeen&#039;s policy proposals working, had they been given half a chance by our government.

But now?  Too late.

They&#039;re closing in on the bomb.  We&#039;ve less than a year to take that Manhattan project down and out.

We don&#039;t have any time for sending in operatives and working to &quot;destabilize&quot; that regime. AND THAT&#039;S ASSUMING our present-day CIA has any such capacity.  After the years and years of political correctness, who here thinks that the CIA has the sophistication and the tradecraft to pull off such a thing?

I know I don&#039;t.  I&#039;m pretty sure the CIA is a joke.

It&#039;s time for for Professor Ledeen to stop whipping himself into a lather beating and whipping that dead horse into a canter.  Street theater isn&#039;t going to cut it.  

It&#039;s time for Iran to be thoroughly pounded, and made an example of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the start of GW&#8217;s tenure, Ledeen&#8217;s policy proposals should have been acted on.</p>
<p>As late as 2003 there were still real chances for Ledeen&#8217;s policy proposals working, had they been given half a chance by our government.</p>
<p>But now?  Too late.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re closing in on the bomb.  We&#8217;ve less than a year to take that Manhattan project down and out.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have any time for sending in operatives and working to &#8220;destabilize&#8221; that regime. AND THAT&#8217;S ASSUMING our present-day CIA has any such capacity.  After the years and years of political correctness, who here thinks that the CIA has the sophistication and the tradecraft to pull off such a thing?</p>
<p>I know I don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m pretty sure the CIA is a joke.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for for Professor Ledeen to stop whipping himself into a lather beating and whipping that dead horse into a canter.  Street theater isn&#8217;t going to cut it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for Iran to be thoroughly pounded, and made an example of.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9887</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell me when mullahs are being slaughtered in the streets, when they&#039;re running for their lives ahead of mobs intent on ripping them limb from limb.  Tell me about the judges who impose the will of the mu8llahs being surreptitiously killed while they&#039;re homeward bound. 

Tell me of the lives of those who support the regime ending violently.

I don&#039;t care about the ritual street theater in Iran, or anywhere else throughout islam for that matter.

Street theater is cheap.

Slaughtering the evildoers, slaughtering tyrants, slaughtering those who are dragging them towards a nuclear exchange would be real evidence.

So every city in Iran is seeing unrest.  That&#039;s nothing new.  If they wanted a new government, then I&#039;d say that it&#039;s long past time to start killing people, in addition to street theater.

The Iranians, willingly or unwillingly, are letting their government move forwards on a genocidal and annihlationist course, {notice I didn&#039;t say &quot;knowingly or unknowingly,&quot; because there&#039;s no doubt anymore about what direction that government is going}.  Which means the Iranians are about in the same boat as the Germans circa 1930s.  As the Germans let their government move forwards on a policy of global war, so today the Iranians are allowing their government move forwards on a course of untold horrors.

So forgive me if I don&#039;t get all excited about lame street theater, which given Iran&#039;s history over the last 20 years, will likely lead nowhere.  The Iranians don&#039;t need our help ripping that regime apart, and going after their tormentors with knives and their bare hands.  Within 24 hours every &quot;religious leader&quot; throughout that country could either be dead or under the personal protection of Hezbollah operatives.  They could make that regime exist like hunted animals if they wanted to, if they REALLY and TRULY wanted to join the West.

When the choice becomes islam or the West, what we&#039;ve seen time and time again, is that muslims invariably choose islam.

I expect the same this time.

I don&#039;t have any faith in a people who allowed themselves to be governed for decades by religious lunatics.  Which means I don&#039;t have any faith in Iranians.

Time&#039;s up.

It&#039;s time for hell to be unleashed on that regime, on their Manhattan Project, on their terror camps, on their intelligence headquarters.  It&#039;s time for Iran to be hit like they&#039;ve never been hit before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell me when mullahs are being slaughtered in the streets, when they&#8217;re running for their lives ahead of mobs intent on ripping them limb from limb.  Tell me about the judges who impose the will of the mu8llahs being surreptitiously killed while they&#8217;re homeward bound. </p>
<p>Tell me of the lives of those who support the regime ending violently.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care about the ritual street theater in Iran, or anywhere else throughout islam for that matter.</p>
<p>Street theater is cheap.</p>
<p>Slaughtering the evildoers, slaughtering tyrants, slaughtering those who are dragging them towards a nuclear exchange would be real evidence.</p>
<p>So every city in Iran is seeing unrest.  That&#8217;s nothing new.  If they wanted a new government, then I&#8217;d say that it&#8217;s long past time to start killing people, in addition to street theater.</p>
<p>The Iranians, willingly or unwillingly, are letting their government move forwards on a genocidal and annihlationist course, {notice I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;knowingly or unknowingly,&#8221; because there&#8217;s no doubt anymore about what direction that government is going}.  Which means the Iranians are about in the same boat as the Germans circa 1930s.  As the Germans let their government move forwards on a policy of global war, so today the Iranians are allowing their government move forwards on a course of untold horrors.</p>
<p>So forgive me if I don&#8217;t get all excited about lame street theater, which given Iran&#8217;s history over the last 20 years, will likely lead nowhere.  The Iranians don&#8217;t need our help ripping that regime apart, and going after their tormentors with knives and their bare hands.  Within 24 hours every &#8220;religious leader&#8221; throughout that country could either be dead or under the personal protection of Hezbollah operatives.  They could make that regime exist like hunted animals if they wanted to, if they REALLY and TRULY wanted to join the West.</p>
<p>When the choice becomes islam or the West, what we&#8217;ve seen time and time again, is that muslims invariably choose islam.</p>
<p>I expect the same this time.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any faith in a people who allowed themselves to be governed for decades by religious lunatics.  Which means I don&#8217;t have any faith in Iranians.</p>
<p>Time&#8217;s up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for hell to be unleashed on that regime, on their Manhattan Project, on their terror camps, on their intelligence headquarters.  It&#8217;s time for Iran to be hit like they&#8217;ve never been hit before.</p>
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		<title>By: Belmont Club &#187; Do no harm</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9876</link>
		<dc:creator>Belmont Club &#187; Do no harm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] than Ahmadinejad. The vote is bizarrely enough, a referendum on the legitimacy of the regime. Michael Ledeen notes that Ahmadinejad&#8217;s opponent, Mir Houssein Mousavi, is no democrat. His qualification [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] than Ahmadinejad. The vote is bizarrely enough, a referendum on the legitimacy of the regime. Michael Ledeen notes that Ahmadinejad&#8217;s opponent, Mir Houssein Mousavi, is no democrat. His qualification [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alireza</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9874</link>
		<dc:creator>Alireza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this time Dr. Ledeen is laughing and he keeps laughing. He says: I told you so!!! You cannot trust IR. He is not writing right now because he wants to dump as much salt as he can on those who were hoping for some sign of light at the end of Iran tunnel.

This cannot stand. This is the most insulting, the most visible and clear dictatorship this regime could show. I wish so many others and I did not have the “fear”, so we ALL could walk the streets and bring this regime down. I wish “fear” of guns, torture was not part of human senses. I wish we did not know what pain and fear is, so we could rise and stand up to evil forces. It is all about fear and I admit I’m loaded with it. If it was not the fear, Iranians were all out on street. 

I cannot imagine and vision this man to stay president of Iran and talk on behalf of Iranians. I don’t know what is going on in Iran right at this moment, but I wish the concept of fear could have stopped working just for 48 hours and that is all is needed to make things right and clear of these darkness worshippers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this time Dr. Ledeen is laughing and he keeps laughing. He says: I told you so!!! You cannot trust IR. He is not writing right now because he wants to dump as much salt as he can on those who were hoping for some sign of light at the end of Iran tunnel.</p>
<p>This cannot stand. This is the most insulting, the most visible and clear dictatorship this regime could show. I wish so many others and I did not have the “fear”, so we ALL could walk the streets and bring this regime down. I wish “fear” of guns, torture was not part of human senses. I wish we did not know what pain and fear is, so we could rise and stand up to evil forces. It is all about fear and I admit I’m loaded with it. If it was not the fear, Iranians were all out on street. </p>
<p>I cannot imagine and vision this man to stay president of Iran and talk on behalf of Iranians. I don’t know what is going on in Iran right at this moment, but I wish the concept of fear could have stopped working just for 48 hours and that is all is needed to make things right and clear of these darkness worshippers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinocrat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Much ado about nothing</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9873</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinocrat &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Much ado about nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] same charade four years ago, though with lower voter turnout. It appears that there is tremendous anger in Iran about the obviously stolen election, not that the Ayatollah cares. (In other cheery news: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] same charade four years ago, though with lower voter turnout. It appears that there is tremendous anger in Iran about the obviously stolen election, not that the Ayatollah cares. (In other cheery news: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian H</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9872</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now we know.  The cote-counters and the rural voting sheep have swept Ass4ahead back into power.  Proving the Iranian electorate is almost as stupid and gullible as the American one was last fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now we know.  The cote-counters and the rural voting sheep have swept Ass4ahead back into power.  Proving the Iranian electorate is almost as stupid and gullible as the American one was last fall.</p>
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		<title>By: Saahel Manesh</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9867</link>
		<dc:creator>Saahel Manesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landslide by Ahmadinejad! --VOA

Now, sit back and enjoy the next 4-years--It&#039;s gonan be a great show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landslide by Ahmadinejad! &#8211;VOA</p>
<p>Now, sit back and enjoy the next 4-years&#8211;It&#8217;s gonan be a great show!</p>
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		<title>By: Saahel Manesh</title>
		<link>http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/2009/06/10/the-iranian-circus-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-9858</link>
		<dc:creator>Saahel Manesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmadinejad ahead by 68% of the &quot;vote&quot; at this moment according to both BBC and VOA--  
So long anglo-saxon candidate Mousavi :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmadinejad ahead by 68% of the &#8220;vote&#8221; at this moment according to both BBC and VOA&#8211;<br />
So long anglo-saxon candidate Mousavi <img src='http://pajamasmedia.com/michaelledeen/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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