You may be right that I am expecting too much too soon – I’ve been known to be impatient in such instances- but then again we have all waited 30-years for something-anything- to break loose, so I guess I want things to evolve faster from just internal regime goons change of guards to real fundamental demands of regime change and for the crowd to start looking for solutions outside the regime, not inside of it.

I think it was and is partly orchestration — by both the regime ‘reformist’ faction as well as their western backers in EU and now in the White House–, but you’re right they did not expect it to mushroom like this most likely, and anything could happen as the law of probability takes over the planned event.

It is crucial for the secular democratic opposition inside and outside Iran
to interject their demands onto the movement NOW; Reza Pahlavi, National Front of Iran, and all the rest of the secular democrats should join hands and make themselves present in this uprising and start leading this huge anger & energy towards regime change, not just for the lame “Mousavi in, Nejad and Khamenei out” thing that we are seeing now.

Let’s wait & see what if anything this grows into. I am skeptical, but crowds are often unpredictable.

Just a few days ago, they never expected this, and obviously, weren’t prepared for it. You might be expecting too much, too soon. Give it a few more days, and let’s see what the crowd is demanding. Every hour that this goes on, is an hour where they’re able to organize, and thus their demands will rise, their confidence increase, and their thirst for the blood of their enemies intensify.

This thing has to be crushed soon, or it won’t be crushed at all.

I’ve seen pictures of people beating the thug policemen, so it’s turning in the right direction. The whole non-violence thing only works against certain regimes, but against this regime, a posture of non-violence is positively adolescent.

We’ll see.

But I don’t think this is an orchestration of the regime, because it’s way too serious for that.

The “opposition” as you call it may be the regime itself. They have now manufactured “opposition” out of an old, grey Khomeinist called Mousavi. And the people, so far have fallen for it and seem to be going for that gambit.
This is classic society control and a strategy by the regime to let the people blow some steam without the regime being targeted. This way they can rest assured for another 30-years in power after it’s all over.

If you look at the slogans, none are calling for an end to the Islamic Republic regime. No. Instead, the slogans revolve around ‘Kill the Czar’(Khamenei). No shouts in favor of a secular democracy, no slogans commemorating Dr. Mossadegh(secular nationalist PM in early 50’s), no shouts demanding civil and social liberties. Nothing. Just “Death to Dictator” and such! Hello? What’s wrong with this picture people?

This riot is being directed towards and aimed at – not the regime itself – but only to get rid of one person and his gang: Khamenei.
With the rioters’ hero Mousavi himself being a known radical Islamist -turned ‘reformist’ by BBC propoganda- element from the 80s. He was one of the founders of Hezbollah(see Wikepedia).

So, You gotta admit, this doesn’t look like, sound like, or feel like a genuine “revolution”.

I hope you’re right and it does morph into a real revoluton which will and must target the whole of the regime itself. But I somehow have the feeling that it is being orchestrated from outside of Iran(read Brezhinski and gang) to achieve just a change of guards in IRI and nothing more.
Just imagine how stronger the regime will come out of this after the riots are over.

But as I said, I hope I am wrong.

The Czar was removed via bread riots in a bleak winter. That’s how it all began, with women.

But the movement against the regime has got to go beyond “non-violence.” The family members of the paramilitary thugs need to be grabbed. If the thugs enter the homes of the opposition to beat them to a pulp, then the movement against the regime has got to respond in kind, and up the ante.

There is going to be blood, rivers of it. And it’s going to be shed by the regime if they survive, for they’ll whisk people off the streets or out of their homes, haul them off to some private place, and exact a brutal revenge for what’s gone on. The opposition has got to understand that the regime is playing for keeps, and it’s positively counter-productive to continue to play the adolescent game of non-violence.

These riots are just hog wash, unless as you say, the people turn it around, away from Mousavi and the regime, and evolve it into a mass uprising against religion in government and for democracy. And look for solutions OUTSIDE this regime, not INSIDE of it!

But no dice on that so far- my prediction is it will fizzle out or be snuffed by the regime, either way the real opposition will look really bad for decades to come, and the regime will have a big smile on its face.

Nicely done mullahs!

No, not much.

This has got to evolve into a “string up the mullahs” event.

This has got to be understood for what it is. Because if the mullahs remain in power after millions took to the streets against them, then the mullahs will be IMMEASURABLY STRENGTHENED afterwards.

This has now crossed an Iranian Rubicon, and either the mullahs will be hunted down by mobs intent on their blood, or the mullahs will turn on the people with a will and a vengance. Either way, people are going to die, and probably in droves.

Just make sure the people dying are the thugs, the evildoers, the tyrants, the religious fanatics.

Let’s get real, this is a Green Coup by EU thru their boy Mousavi.

People are –as usual– getting caught in between the 2 factions within the regime.

The slogans are focusing & revolving on ‘one point’ only: “Death to Dictator”– No slogans of “Death to Islamic regime”, or “Long Live secular Democracy and civil liberties” No! Just let’s get rid of Khamenei and Nejad, and then we will have a new, improved swine with western lipstick on headed by our own boys the lapdog trio above.

That’s an evil plan EU and Obama has agreed on to do to Iran.