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		<title>By: File This Under . . . &#171; Liberty Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>File This Under . . . &#171; Liberty Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Weekly Standard has one take, with fear-mongering by pajamasmedia has another and a Jerusalem Post [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SGT Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>SGT Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets also note here that Obama campaign cash bundlers Medea Benjamin and Jodie Evans met with Achmadinijad.

“It’s rare for a head of state to take time during an official U.N. visit to meet with the peace community, especially in a situation where the host government—represented by the Bush administration—is so hostile,” said Evans, co-founder of CODEPINK. “The fact that the meeting took place and was so positive is, in itself, a major step forward.”


Isn&#039;t that special? Obama hate-America money who**s lining up with Achmedinijad vs their own country. How Obama supporters sleep at night is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets also note here that Obama campaign cash bundlers Medea Benjamin and Jodie Evans met with Achmadinijad.</p>
<p>“It’s rare for a head of state to take time during an official U.N. visit to meet with the peace community, especially in a situation where the host government—represented by the Bush administration—is so hostile,” said Evans, co-founder of CODEPINK. “The fact that the meeting took place and was so positive is, in itself, a major step forward.”</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that special? Obama hate-America money who**s lining up with Achmedinijad vs their own country. How Obama supporters sleep at night is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis, Love your last sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I wish there were so many more like you out there.  Scary that there is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis, Love your last sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I wish there were so many more like you out there.  Scary that there is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Marion L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dr. Chesler and others:

I am flattered by Dr. Chesler&#039;s assumption that I am &quot;an Obama operative&quot;.  I am certainly a supporter, but not an &quot;operative&quot;; if &quot;operative&quot; means someone who is formally associated with and paid by Obama&#039;s campaign. Thank you for this thought, Dr. Chesler, as it is a stimulus for the kind of reflection and life planning that is appropriate at this time of year; with Rosh Hashana fast approaching.
  (Intrestingly, as some of my views are to the left of Obama&#039;s, it is an open question as to whether and at what level I would be considered employable by the campaign.) 

I do enjoy responding to blogs of left, right, and center; as it gives me an opportunity to hone my writing skills and to learn about diverse perspectives.  Thank you for this opportunity as well. I am sincerely grateful for it, and I hope that you will count this as one of the positive responses you would like to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Chesler and others:</p>
<p>I am flattered by Dr. Chesler&#8217;s assumption that I am &#8220;an Obama operative&#8221;.  I am certainly a supporter, but not an &#8220;operative&#8221;; if &#8220;operative&#8221; means someone who is formally associated with and paid by Obama&#8217;s campaign. Thank you for this thought, Dr. Chesler, as it is a stimulus for the kind of reflection and life planning that is appropriate at this time of year; with Rosh Hashana fast approaching.<br />
  (Intrestingly, as some of my views are to the left of Obama&#8217;s, it is an open question as to whether and at what level I would be considered employable by the campaign.) </p>
<p>I do enjoy responding to blogs of left, right, and center; as it gives me an opportunity to hone my writing skills and to learn about diverse perspectives.  Thank you for this opportunity as well. I am sincerely grateful for it, and I hope that you will count this as one of the positive responses you would like to see.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marion L:

&quot;Given that he declined to attend, there was no reason to give Palin “pride of place” in attendance as it would have created an impression of partisan favoratism.&quot;

We&#039;re all aware this is the opinion of some, Marion. Chesler obviously disagrees with it.

&quot;Partisanship&quot; was not a concern when Clinton was thought to be attending, without Palin.

And I&#039;m familiar with the synagogue you are talking about. Live close to it and I&#039;ve been there. The rabbi&#039;s a good person - someone I respect - but let&#039;s not bullshit: he&#039;s very politically outspoken, through his weblog entries and invited speakers to the temple, who recently have included anti-Zionist historian Tom Segev. He also favors dialogue with Hamas and Hezbollah, and is on J-Street&#039;s board. 

&quot;He repeatedly welcomed alternative points of view from the audience.&quot;

The majority of said synagogue&#039;s congregation is to the left of the political spectrum, as well, so I doubt &quot;alternative points of view from the audience&quot; were a big issue.

Now, when Palin was disinvited, said rabbi touted it as a victory for J-Street. It&#039;s right there, on his blog.

And J-Street&#039;s statement, right on its website, claiming Paulin doesn&#039;t align with the views of American Jews, was as political as anything else.

So, with all due respect, I don&#039;t buy this argument about 501 status, or that J-Street welcomes all POV, etc., especially given Rosner&#039;s recent article about their fudged &quot;polls&quot;, which claims that American jews favor their POV on international issues. 

I think Chesler&#039;s language is over the top. But not allowing Palin was as political as anything else, and hiding it behind other reasons seems a bit disingenuous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marion L:</p>
<p>&#8220;Given that he declined to attend, there was no reason to give Palin “pride of place” in attendance as it would have created an impression of partisan favoratism.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all aware this is the opinion of some, Marion. Chesler obviously disagrees with it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Partisanship&#8221; was not a concern when Clinton was thought to be attending, without Palin.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m familiar with the synagogue you are talking about. Live close to it and I&#8217;ve been there. The rabbi&#8217;s a good person &#8211; someone I respect &#8211; but let&#8217;s not bullshit: he&#8217;s very politically outspoken, through his weblog entries and invited speakers to the temple, who recently have included anti-Zionist historian Tom Segev. He also favors dialogue with Hamas and Hezbollah, and is on J-Street&#8217;s board. </p>
<p>&#8220;He repeatedly welcomed alternative points of view from the audience.&#8221;</p>
<p>The majority of said synagogue&#8217;s congregation is to the left of the political spectrum, as well, so I doubt &#8220;alternative points of view from the audience&#8221; were a big issue.</p>
<p>Now, when Palin was disinvited, said rabbi touted it as a victory for J-Street. It&#8217;s right there, on his blog.</p>
<p>And J-Street&#8217;s statement, right on its website, claiming Paulin doesn&#8217;t align with the views of American Jews, was as political as anything else.</p>
<p>So, with all due respect, I don&#8217;t buy this argument about 501 status, or that J-Street welcomes all POV, etc., especially given Rosner&#8217;s recent article about their fudged &#8220;polls&#8221;, which claims that American jews favor their POV on international issues. </p>
<p>I think Chesler&#8217;s language is over the top. But not allowing Palin was as political as anything else, and hiding it behind other reasons seems a bit disingenuous.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Aminoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Aminoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is that just because a member of one political party or another wants to speak out against a tyrant make it a &quot;Partisan event.&quot;  There should have been public officials of all stripes at that rally protesting Iran.  To disinvite all politicians was just the wrong move.  Politicians for both parties should have been invited to attend and to speak publicly.  

This was clearly a case of the Conference of Presidents being intimidated by the strong-arm tactics and intimidation of the Democrat Party.  So what was the result.  We showed Ahmadinejad that the Jews can&#039;t even get any public officials to support their flimsy protest.  Shameful!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is that just because a member of one political party or another wants to speak out against a tyrant make it a &#8220;Partisan event.&#8221;  There should have been public officials of all stripes at that rally protesting Iran.  To disinvite all politicians was just the wrong move.  Politicians for both parties should have been invited to attend and to speak publicly.  </p>
<p>This was clearly a case of the Conference of Presidents being intimidated by the strong-arm tactics and intimidation of the Democrat Party.  So what was the result.  We showed Ahmadinejad that the Jews can&#8217;t even get any public officials to support their flimsy protest.  Shameful!!</p>
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		<title>By: mama pajama</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama pajama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To J.J. Sefton -
You need never ever apologize for expressing your concerns and completely valid point of view. It is Marion L.who should apologize to you for attempting to qualify her prejudices where Jewish concern over survival is the imperative.

As for Marion L. notion of organizers of the demonstration being &quot;better prepared&quot; - I would ask - is this the first such rally by Jews? Hardly.

Its the sway of the Liberal/Left on Jewish Organizations who should stand up for Jewish interests that is at issue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To J.J. Sefton -<br />
You need never ever apologize for expressing your concerns and completely valid point of view. It is Marion L.who should apologize to you for attempting to qualify her prejudices where Jewish concern over survival is the imperative.</p>
<p>As for Marion L. notion of organizers of the demonstration being &#8220;better prepared&#8221; &#8211; I would ask &#8211; is this the first such rally by Jews? Hardly.</p>
<p>Its the sway of the Liberal/Left on Jewish Organizations who should stand up for Jewish interests that is at issue!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FINALLY....thank you for your insightful comments and the honesty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FINALLY&#8230;.thank you for your insightful comments and the honesty!</p>
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		<title>By: Marion L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marion L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Sefton:

Thank you for responding.  You are entitled to your perspective on the Democratic Party but I&#039;m still surprised that a child of survivors would use the kind of language that you initially used.

It seems to me that the sponsoring organizations for this rally needed to be better prepared in terms of what kind of rally they were sponsoring - i.e. - issue specific and communal - or partisan or both.  Then the awkwardness of &quot;disinviting&quot; a speaker could have been avoided.  And the critics may have been correct that with Palin as the only partisan nominee speaking that tax exempt status could be in jeopardy for the sponsoring groups that have 
501(c)(3) status and are therefore not permitted to engage in partisan politics.  (This issue came up when I was a member of the now defunct New Jewish Agenda and some members wanted to endorse political candidates.  We could take positions on issues and express individual opinions about candidates but we could not formally endorse them as New Jewish Agenda had 501(c)(3) status.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Sefton:</p>
<p>Thank you for responding.  You are entitled to your perspective on the Democratic Party but I&#8217;m still surprised that a child of survivors would use the kind of language that you initially used.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the sponsoring organizations for this rally needed to be better prepared in terms of what kind of rally they were sponsoring &#8211; i.e. &#8211; issue specific and communal &#8211; or partisan or both.  Then the awkwardness of &#8220;disinviting&#8221; a speaker could have been avoided.  And the critics may have been correct that with Palin as the only partisan nominee speaking that tax exempt status could be in jeopardy for the sponsoring groups that have<br />
501(c)(3) status and are therefore not permitted to engage in partisan politics.  (This issue came up when I was a member of the now defunct New Jewish Agenda and some members wanted to endorse political candidates.  We could take positions on issues and express individual opinions about candidates but we could not formally endorse them as New Jewish Agenda had 501(c)(3) status.)</p>
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		<title>By: v for victory</title>
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		<dc:creator>v for victory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The J Street Jews would rather die at Ahmadinejad’s hands–as long as a Democrat is voted into the White House–than live under a Republican administration.&quot;

Reminiscent of Stanley Baldwin, before WWII.  Even famously magnanimous Churchill could not find good words for Baldwin after the war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The J Street Jews would rather die at Ahmadinejad’s hands–as long as a Democrat is voted into the White House–than live under a Republican administration.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reminiscent of Stanley Baldwin, before WWII.  Even famously magnanimous Churchill could not find good words for Baldwin after the war.</p>
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