Comments on: The Rally Against Ahmadinejad that Didn’t Roar and Why That Makes Me Sad

By: wayne

wayne — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:52:02 +0000

Code Pink meets with Armegeddon-eye-jab and they get 24,000 letters against Sarah Palin and you wonder who is at work here?

Who else can raise an army of hundreds of thousands of brain-washed college students whose professors give class assignments to pen complaint letters.

George Soros and his cabal over at Moveon.org.

Who else would have provided Zerobamanation with the lawyers he sent to warn the event organizers about sicking the IRS on them. Hell, they are the entire prop that is behind him anyway!!

Soros is the prime agent behind the mortgage debacle, too. He controls the biggest hedge funds behind it all. Economic collapse is good for his boy, Barry, especially if the socialist governments who have the cash to buy up our debt have told Bush that this ends only when Barry is crowned king of America.

By: abigailadams

abigailadams — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:54:38 +0000

CodePink founders met with the Iranian president today. I am wondering if they asked about the treatment of women in IRan? DOes anyone know?
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Leading CODEPINK activists and other peace organizations meet with Iranian president in New York
NEW YORK — Calling it a “major step forward” in relations between Iran and the United States, leading activists Medea Benjamin and Jodie Evans of CODEPINK Women for Peace — along with more than 150 other U.S. peace group representatives — met Wednesday afternoon with Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad here following his appearance at the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday.
At the meeting at the Grand Hyatt Hotel, coordinated by interfaith peace group the Fellowship of Reconciliation, the peace activists talked to Ahmadinejad about their desire to strengthen people-to-people ties between the two countries. They presented several proposals for the Iranian government to consider and copies of a petition signed by 50 U.S. mayors all over the country calling for diplomatic engagement with Iran, not military action. The petition, promoted by CODEPINK, illustrates how local U.S. leaders are anxious to move national resources away from military intervention and into reinvestment in infrastructure, schools and health care. CODEPINK proposed taking a delegation of U.S. Mayors to Iran to create “sister cities.”
“U.S. government officials are quick to stir up hostilities with Iran, but the American people are tired of war,” said Benjamin, co-founder of the nonpartisan women’s peace group CODEPINK. “The peace movement represents the sentiment of the majority of Americans who want our two countries to find ways to work together and improve relations. We are modeling the behavior we want to see our government adopt.”
The CODEPINK women proposed inviting American and Iranian artists to build a “peace park” in Tehran, a memorial dedicated to people-to-people commitment to peace and diplomacy between our two countries.
They also proposed a plan to invest funds in an Iranian business, one that produces green and sustainable products, such as bicycles. This grassroots investment would be the opposite of efforts by the Bush administration and Congress to tighten sanctions, a move which CODEPINK thinks would only hurt ordinary, everyday Iranians. Such a symbolic CODEPINK investment in a green, sustainable business would challenge U.S. regulations blocking trade with Iran and would show how diplomacy and trade are preferable to war and sanctions.
The meeting, which took place in a cordial and positive atmosphere, was considered a great breakthrough.
“It’s rare for a head of state to take time during an official U.N. visit to meet with the peace community, especially in a situation where the host government—represented by the Bush administration—is so hostile,” said Evans, co-founder of CODEPINK. “The fact that the meeting took place and was so positive is, in itself, a major step forward.”

By: Madeline

Madeline — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:10:31 +0000

Two comments I want to make: 1) Counting the numbers at the rally to see how much the Democrats were hurt becomes empty after a while. People went to the rally for other reasons than Palin Present or Palin Not Present. Anyway, we will know in November how strong the Democrats are or are not. This isn’t everything.

2) S4200 writes about Iranian resistors who simply want a peaceful change of regime, and I commented about them too. Next questions, and I think they are big, are just what is the nature and scope of the resistance, how likely are they to succeed and will they do it quickly enough to prevent disaster for Israel and other countries, and what can the US do to help them.

It’s important that the media get busy with these questions, and they are not doing that so far.

By: S4200

S4200 — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:51:53 +0000

The Monday rally was a success.
The crowd was big.
The packed front area was about 150 by 150 feet and packed solidly, estimated 10,000 people, while there were another 5,000 in back of the plaza.

Banafsheh Zand and Nazanin spoke, and all we need is an organized Iranian Peace Front to take over the country.

It must be an orderly transition, no looting, no execution….just a march to a Republic for the Iranian people.

Irwin Cotler is a gem. A great lawyer. He should head a lawyer front in Iran to assure a legal safe system.

By: Marion L

Marion L — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:42:23 +0000

Dear exDemocrat:

You are very silly, as all of the groups you cite in your Sep 23, 2008 – 9:12 pm post (Equality Now, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch) are non-governmental, non-partisan, human rights organizations.

Unfortunately there is a serious element to your silliness as the McCarthyism you are engaging in has dangerous consequences when embraced by a lot of people.

By: narciso

narciso — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:18:52 +0000

Mossadecq was an oldline retread back from the 20s; who decided to revamp his image by going for nationalization. It seemed like a cool idea then, the French had done it, with
Renault (to punish their Vichy chiefs and Total; but it ultimately had to be reversed.
After 50 years of experience with Iraq and Saudi Arabia; we se how its a dead end. AJAX
succeeded because Mossadeq alienated two of the larger groups in Iran; the bazaaris (middle class) and the mullahs. He was basically left to rely on the Tudeh; Iranian Communists; for support. The Shah apparently forgot that lesson, because his corruption and land reform plans, undermined his trust with those same two groups. Despite the windfall in oil; Ahmadinejad, former IRGC
commando, warden of Evin Prison, appointed mayor of Tehran; hasn’t been able to improve
the conditions in his country; not surprising he hasn’t the credentials or the inclination; they have challenged almost all their technical capacity toward their nuclear program. With a fate, similar to what has befallen Pakistan. Iran’s acquisition of the bomb, will drive every country from the UAE to Algeria into a nuclear arms race; that’s when things get interesting.

By: Maysman

Maysman — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:32:13 +0000

And you dared ask me to join you when you fold so easily to J Street people…and insult my Governor… Such cowards… The Jews of Warsaw must be cringing in their graves… I have more opinions at http://fuanglada.wordpress.com/
btw, Iran nucs are a done deal.. No one will stop them..
btw2… Little old Christian me is with you… Semper Fi always but you disgraced yourselves this time

By: exDemocrat

exDemocrat — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:12:01 +0000

“Equality Now, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch”

Radical, leftist, communist groups..they have nothing, NOTHING, to do with a secure Israel.

Appeasing collabos and useful idiots, the lot of ‘em.

These groups loooove mahmoud.

By: Madeline

Madeline — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:07:02 +0000

Dear Marion, Thank you for the kind words. I want to clarify that neither the left nor the right has taken an effective position regarding Iran. Diplomacy means letting oneself be lied to and manipulated. Military intervention – which has not happened yet – would backfire, according to the Iranians I spoke with and listened to as featured speakers. But taking guidance from the dissidents and supporting their efforts to bring down the evil regime, now that’s a different road to take.

By: Dr. Shalit

Dr. Shalit — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:29:06 +0000

Phyllis -

If Gov. Palin and Sen. Clinton had appeared, I suspect the turnout would have surpassed that of 2006 for curiosity sake if nothing else. That would have been a triumph. Instead, the “J Street” folks got their way – ensuring DEFEAT in the USA, just as they wish it elsewhere. After this Un-Spinable debacle, I question NOT only their Patriotism and Judgment – I also question their Judaism and “Raison d’etre.” Dr. Shalit, 9/23/2008 C.E.