UPDATE:
As of November 29th at 8:30pm, the death toll is 195.
As of 10:30am est, the death toll is estimated at 125, the number of wounded as 327, and the number still trapped or held hostage at 100. The Indian Government believes that the terrorists, (one of whom was reportedly speaking Urdu with a Kashmiri accent), came by sea in three weapons-laden speedboats. (Shades of the Somalian pirates!) Three to four terrorists are still holding hostages at several hotels. Hostage numbers range from 20-30 to 100 and are thought to be British, American, and Israeli citizens.
Of course: Israelis. As I reported here last night, Nariman House is the Chabad House in Mumbai. The terrorists targeted it. (C’mon, if Quranic Islam is not involved, why target religious Jews and Israelis? Are they behind the dispute over Kashmir?) Various estimates suggest that eight, hostages, presumed to be Israelis, are being held at Chabad House. They are presumed to include Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg and his wife Rivki. Their two-year old son, Moishe, was rescued by the cook who fled. These hostages are presumably unconscious. Anywhere from 10 to 30 Israelis are being held at the Trident-Oberoi Hotel.
This updated information is based on Ha’aretz, The India Times, The New York Times, CNN, and on blogs written by Pamela Geller, Andy Bostom, and Robert Spencer.
ORIGINAL ARTICLE
Islamic radicals keep declaring war upon the West and upon everyone who is not a Wahabi-style Muslim. Islamic fundamentalists have attacked Western civilians in Bali, Tanzania, Kenya, Cairo–and in London, Madrid, New York City, and Washington D.C. Today’s terrorist attack in India targeted Westerners, mainly Americans and British, in an upscale area of Mumbai, India’s financial center.
The West and non-Muslims around the world, have chosen to treat each attack separately, and not as part of a global war. What else will Islamic fundamentalists have to do to be dealt with as the enemy army they truly are?
As I write, the Taj Hotel, a major five star hotel for western tourists in Mumbai is still on fire. Islamic terrorists, who carried out well-coordinated attacks in ten separate locations in the city, are believed to have Western hostages in both the Taj and in the Oberoi Hotel. It is important to note that Mumbai is also the home of Bollywood, (the Indian film industry), and is a major tourist center.
UPDATED FACTS: As I write, 101 people are reported dead, 185 injured, and 40 human beings, mainly Westerners, possibly American and British citizens, are being held hostage. (The hostages at the Taq hotel have been released but anywhere from 100-200 hostages remain at the Oberoi). The Indian anti-terrorist chief in Mumbai has been murdered. Ten separate locations were targeted for almost simultaneous attacks. The locations included hospitals (!), cafes, five-star hotels, and a railway station. Terrorists also sprayed gunfire into street crowds.
According to the Israeli media, an Israeli family was being held hostage, Nariman House, or Mumbai’s Chabad House, was targeted. As yet, the Chabad rabbi and his wife cannot be located. (The Chabad rabbi’s wife and child have escaped unharmed). Israeli sources tell me that some Israeli families are being held hostage.
An unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahadeen has claimed responsibility for these heinous attacks but this has not been confirmed. About an hour ago, the Indian government alleged that a Pakistani/Kashmiri separatist Islamist group, Lashkar-i-Toiba, was behind this. Another possible contender is the Indian Mujahadeen which is an offshoot of the banned SIMI (the Student Islamic Movement). The Indian government is also considering the possibility that the governments of both Pakistan and Bangladesh may have assisted this new terrorist group.
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Nov 26, 2008 - 4:42 pm 2. Avi:Sadly, we have been subjected to islamic terrorism since the 7th century when islam first arrived in india.
We are a peaceful people who have never had any designs on world domination. but these people just will not leave us (or the jews) alone.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:04 pm 3. Zeno:“An unknown group calling itself the Deccan Mujahadeen”
I suspect they are always the same people, who chose random names to confound the media. It’s like in Iraq, when you had dozens of different groups. Beter to call them simply jihadists or muslims.
The only solution would be to expel all muslims from “infidel-ruled” lands. Never gonna happen.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:11 pm 4. sxs537:Take the fight to them. I remember back in the 80s and early 90s Punjab region of India was under similar attacks from Sikh separatists. The government ruthlessly and cunningly deployed local cops (especially KPS Gill as the head) who knew the landscape very well and gave them complete authority. Gill, meticulously and ruthlessly found the leadership and eliminated every single one of them. Then he want after the secondary leaders and then the next level and so on. And after 10 years he eliminated the threat of all Sikh separatism. Indian government needs to just do that. No drama, no theatre, just plain ruthlessness and singularity of purpose. That has been lacking in Indian response to Islamic terrorism and Kashmiri fundamentalism.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:11 pm 5. fred:Just Muslims being Muslims, is all. Another dramatic event brought to you by the religion of piss. Read Andrew Bostom’s book, “The Legacy of Jihad.” What Muslims have done in India IS genocide. The British arrived in the nick of time to stop the slaughter.
Conservatively estimated by Bill Warner, Islamic jihad has murdered over 270 million kafirs since the 7th century. Most of them in the Hindu Kush and in India.
No wonder the Indians hate the Muslims so much. Or the Armenians hate the Muslims so much. Or the Copts… and on and on. You get the picture? There is a definite pattern here. Islam and Muslims are trouble everywhere they go in this world.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:13 pm 6. Jeff Carter:NYC subway on high alert. I would be careful no matter where I was in the world. Bush should bomb the Somalia pirate ports with a couple of cruise missiles. The reaction to this should be quick and fierce.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:31 pm 7. Morton Doodslag:The hideous facts are these: non-radical Muslims reside in ever growing numbers in predominantly non-Islamic regions. Most of them refuse to fight the supposed misunderstanders of their religion, the terrorists, but prefer to lecture us and somehow blame us for all the violence because WE are supposedly the misunderstanders of their religion. And while we continue to allow them to live amongst us, and put up with all manner of inconvenience and interference so that they can live amongst us and not feel singled out — many of their co-religionists plot and plan our destruction safely protected in those same Muslim enclaves.
We are a society gone insane. In the vain pursuit of a non-judgmental post-modern multi-cultural paradise we are permitting a Jihad insurrection to flourish in our midst, one bent on our complete annihilation. Every Muslim in the West who has come here, but continues to adhere to the supremacist nature of Islam — ever Muslim who claims victimhood at our non-Muslim hands — every Muslim who refuses to acknowledge or confront the violent hatred filled aspects of their religion — every one of those Muslims is also part of the same Jihad which claimed those lives today in India. Just because they don’t pick up AK-47s, or strap bombs onto themselves, just because they don’t directly behead an “infidel”, or make videos extolling the virtues of Islamic mayhem doesn’t mean all those millions of Muslims residing in the West aren’t engaged in the exact same horrendous Jihad their more violent brothers are waging. We wouldn’t be in such peril if they didn’t live amongst us and practice their so-called religion unimpeded. Jihad would pose almost no serious threat against our society if Muslims weren’t living freely amongst us, travelling freely amongst us, and plotting freely amongst us.
I fear no Hindu terrorists, though millions of Hindus live freely in the West. I fear no Buddhist terrorists, though millions of Buddhists live freely in the West. I fear no atheist terrorists, though millions of atheists live freely in the West. But I gravely fear for the long term survival of the West as long as Muslims live in the West, and are allowed to wage Jihad here nearly completely unchallenged.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:34 pm 8. cedarford:I’ll take exception to one quote of yours and generally agree with the rest:
But the modern era of global terrorism really took wing when, in 1964, the late Yasir Arafat unleashed his bloody, relentless attacks against Israel, the only western-style democracy in the Middle East.
I would say the modern era of global terrorism started with the Bolsheviks who believed in borderless revolution and terror – before they were reined in by Stalin, some at ice-pick point, to focus on terror and completing the revolution in the Soviet Union.
I would disagree too about thinking Arafat’s crappy little group in a crappy ME place – even signaled the start of Arab terrorism. All experts believe the Template was the use of persistant terror, and terror across national boundaries in the Algerian Civil War.
That said, a big part of our problem is that we constructed after WWII, a set of laws glorifying non-uniform wearing combatants as “possibly innocent enemy civilians” only to be tried in civilian courts and only by lawyers in the lead… Even if they are military-trained, have modern military weapons, and violate every Geneva and human rights law on the books.
That is why we put up with terror groups we once eradicated similar size and strength ones in the years before “the lessons of WWII atrocities” were applied. And you had to laugh when the head of the Navy we pay almost 100 billion a year to fund declares itself “not able to stop” 300 illiterate Somali pirates armed with speedboats and 300 dollars in weapons per boat. You see, we can’t just legally shoot pirates on sight, nor wipe out their bases…they are CIVILIANS, who need civilian trials and tons of free lawyers – the civilian lawyers from the ACLU to the British and EU legal Left declares.
And then we find no nation really wants to try them, because we find that lawyers have crafted a complete set of laws shielding pirates and terrorists if tried…have to have the opportunity to use more free lawyers (free to them anyways) to sue for sanctuary. Because as pirates and terrorists they have a just fear, as possibly bona-fide refugees from persecution, that they face “consequences” in their homelands for being terrorists and pirates.
So our Navy and others cannot just capture them. 1st, no nation really wants to ensnare itself in endless legal due process. 2nd, no nation wishes to then be stuck with another nations pirates, terrorists, and whatever “family and relatives” they sue to also get sanctuary.
(Imagine Jefferson, TDR, FDR alive and reading that we haven’t even put the 9/11 Mastermind we got over 5 years ago on trial yet for killing 2900 Americans in an unlawful enemy combatant operation. Or that we are afraid of killing or capturing pirates because it unleashes lawyers..and activists from SF to Tel Aviv who champion pirate and terrorist civil liberties.
Jefferson, TDR, FDR would think we were insane and committing civilizational suicide.. As the Chinese already do.
Nov 26, 2008 - 5:45 pm 9. Dark Helmet:The pathetic joke of our present counter-terrorism and counter-piracy will continue until we end the reign of the lawyers over common sense.
Get ready, with barrak hussain obama, this is f*ing nothing compared to what is to come.
Nov 26, 2008 - 7:22 pm 10. Sidney Raphael:Militant Muslims in India often use as a pretext for their acts the destruction suffered by fellow Muslims in the “communal violence” which took place in northern India, especially in Mumbai, in 1993. As a result of those actions of militant Hindus, a thousand Muslims lost their lives.
Those riots left a sour impression on the survivors. After the arrests earlier this year of some of the Muslim perpetrators of violence in Bangalore, India, according to an article in the Times of India some of the arrested Muslim militants claimed that they were seeking revenge for the 1993 communal violence.
The political party which controls the states of Maharashtri (where Mumbai is located) and Karnataka (where Bangalore is located) is the BJP. The BJP is often characterized, rightly or wrongly, as a militant Hindu separatist party. Militant Muslim groups target the BJP since they hold it responsible for Muslim deaths.
I present these internecine Indian political factors in no way to excuse today’s acts in Mumbai. But including them in understanding today’s mayhem makes this event more complex than simply labelling them the acts of worldwide Islamic militants.
Nov 26, 2008 - 7:50 pm 11. robert verdi:fight until the last full measure.
Nov 26, 2008 - 8:02 pm 12. Rashputin:Sidney Raphael – I understand your trying to put this into a context, but do you understand that the targeting of Westerners wasn’t aimed at making the BJP look bad? If this turns out to be an attempt at lowering west’s guard somewhat prior to something larger elsewhere, will that be a targeting of the BJP?
No this has a character not found in the usual Hindu – Muslim violence which both sides participate in and have participated in for generations. This is coordinated with groups who allowed those in India to take care of their own problems until they saw an opportunity to strike at Westerners. The perpetual cautions not to lump all Muslims into the same category is plain suicidal given the fact that there are no Muslim groups actively working to uproot the terrorists in their midst. If there were, it would very quickly become obvious because they’d be targeted by the terrorists just like they were in Iraq. When was the last time a Muslim group blew up a mosque in the US? When that happens on a regular basis, then I’ll try to be careful about which Muslims I’m talking about rather than figuring they all have the same mindset whether they act on it or not.
Regards
Nov 26, 2008 - 9:09 pm 13. njcommuter:Too many people mis-remember Vietnam or, if they are too young, have been indoctrinated by the MSM. If Bush does as you suggest, the political fallout will doom the GOP and give the Dems unchallenged politicial control for at least six years and maybe fifteen.
Obama, on the other hand, will have a free hand to go after the pirates will all necessary means. I think he will at least try something; whether he will have the resolve to follow it up and get excoriated for it, as Bush did, I cannot guess.
And cruise missiles are so … Clintonian. They are expensive, we have a limited (though large) supply, and they don’t make the rubble bounce. I suggest instead at least ten full B-52 loads timed to drop in close succession, followed by repeated low-level drops of large thermobaric explosives, just for emphasis.
Nov 26, 2008 - 9:25 pm 14. AJ:“Just Muslims being Muslims, is all. Another dramatic event brought to you by the religion of piss.”
True, though w/ every terror attack by these savages, maybe another hundred left wing kooks here & abroad wake up — maybe?
Nov 26, 2008 - 9:29 pm 15. thegr8_1:To those who voted in America’s elections are you having second thoughts about your vote now? McCain was in the armed forces off Cuba when Obama was in diapers. If Mumbai repeats itself in an American city who do you want answering that 3 AM phone call? I guess that will be Hillary’s job now. Borders, language, culture, we are disintigrating from within.
Nov 26, 2008 - 9:34 pm 16. cedarford:thegr8_1:
To those who voted in America’s elections are you having second thoughts about your vote now? McCain was in the armed forces off Cuba when Obama was in diapers. If Mumbai repeats itself in an American city who do you want answering that 3 AM phone call?
The answer is Obama.
He showed himself a more competent executive than his Presidential rivals he went head-to-head with. Compared to the badly aging Mr. POW, who was lacking vision, nearly incoherent on issues, and badly mismanaged his campaign and it’s leadership. Or his slogan spewing attack dog idiot Palin, who probably thinks Mumbai is a sort of chutney sauce you dribble on Moose kebabs.
As for Hillary, her two forays into executive leadership were the unmitigated disasters of Hillarycare Fiasco and running her campaign almost as badly as the treacherous old RINO and Neocon catspaw McCain did.
I say that as a Republican who wanted Fred Thompson or Romney.
Who was not happy at all that the able, experienced Tom Ridge, Mitt Romney, and Rudy were killed off by the Religious Right. And on Election Day, found the choice between another “gut instinct” fighter jock dimbulb, running on biography and exhalted POW-hood, with a lifetime of dumb moves and stabbing fellow Republicans…And an intelligent man who ran a brilliant campaign, has had a meteoric rise, and has at least the potential to be someone truly great in the Office.
Now that the Election is over, I stand behind both my outgoing President and my new one. I hope nothing more than Obama will be such a success and clean up all the messes so well that I ache to vote for him in another 4 years.
Nov 26, 2008 - 10:05 pm 17. Sidney Raphael:Rashputin – You’re correct that the desire for the blood of Westerners makes this incident different from the typical Hindu-Muslim spat. Up until now, militant Muslims in India took pride that they sustained their own. The involvement of Westerners raises the stakes a notch. Hinduvut forces can no longer keep their displeasure with Islamists confined to the borders of Maharashtri and Karnataka. The gauntlet has been thrown down. If the Hindu militants cannot carry out reprisals outside their previous zone–if they cannot or do not attack Pakistan itself, to use one hypothetical example–they will lose face and lose the battle. I expect reprisals to escalate, unfortunately.
Nov 26, 2008 - 10:07 pm 18. fred:AJ,
I don’t expect any act of jihad to make much of an impression on the Leftist elites in the West. It’s not going to change their template. Been there. Heard them. Seen them. I get what’s in their heads. Not much to it, so we really should not set ourselves up for disappointment. Really. In fact, many of them kind of like it when the Koranimals strike us and other peoples. Anything that weakens the West, capitalism, and our Constitutional Republic is welcomed. Unfortunately, the dolts don’t understand what would happen to them if the 7th century savages actually were to win this war.
Our recent election results, I’m sure, fixes in the minds of these animals the correct view that the West is weak and lacks the mettle for this fight.
Nov 26, 2008 - 10:16 pm 19. heather:the bad guys came into Mumbai on speedboats. They had a huge amount of weaponry and ammunition, plus grenades and bombs. Their attacks on TEN places were coordinated in time. They let loose bloody anarchy in that huge city.
Their attention was focussed on the wealthier areas of Mumbai, places where tourists and ‘foreigners’ congregate. Also, they attacked a hospital and a railway terminus (lots of blood on the floor there). Plus a building where Jews (Israelis) live.
Anyway, when Obama finally gets to be The Big Cheese, I am going to enjoy watching him fling cruise missiles at Pakistani huts. It will be a re-run of Clinton’s go at the Sudanese aspirin factory, only worse, because it will be in the mountains of the Hindu Kush.
Obama and the lefties have never figured out that Iraq was the best place to start in this War on Terror because, folks, IT WAS EASY compared to going after the border countries between Pakistan and Afghanistan. But, these lefties are so stupid they won’t notice that, I guess. Remember, it was Democrats who got the US into Vietnam… and it took the Republicans to get the US out, by that time, with no honour at all, just a great sigh of relief and shame.
And note that Obama the smart has already dissed India by phoning Pakistan and not bothering with India. Yep. This will be a very steep learning curve for ol’ Obama and the Clintonoids. But. Will we survive, us folk who are merely spectators?
Nov 26, 2008 - 10:22 pm 20. JJ:Most of you here seem to be oversimplifying the issue. One important point to remember is that India is by no means a “peaceful” society, and the political landscape is heavily influenced by extremist Hindu right wing facist style groups. Aside from Hindu-Muslim communal tensions the country is presently on the verge of a civil war on its north eastern border (in the assam region) and the Indian Military has frequently been criticised for human rights violations in trying to quell opposition activity. Also, attacks on Christians by Hindu mobs have become increasingly common particularly in the western part of the country. In addition, further incidents of violence are related to the Naxalite-communist conflict in the state of Bihar, anti-Sikh violence in the Punjab, and the Nagaland insurgency amongst others. In a global context, particularly in a post 11 Sept 2001 environment, media focus has been overwhelmingly placed on the relationship between Islam and terrorism, and keener analyses now reveals that the history of Wahhabi inspired militancy has strong roots in the Cold War, when the US tended to provide large quantities of weaponry and intensive training to bolster Islam as a counter ideology to Communism, thus maintaining American influence in societies prone to USSR advances. This is an important consideration to make in any argument that seeks to portray a community as inherently violent.
Nov 26, 2008 - 10:25 pm 21. Jpeditor:“Obama, on the other hand, will have a free hand to go after the pirates will all necessary means. I think he will at least try something;”
He’ll make us “understand the conditions that breed this kind of resentment”.
Obamunists will never fight jihad. The time is coming soon, when those who stand with the Judeo–Christian West (and our Hindu allies) will have to deal with the real gutter religion (and their leftist backers).
On our own…
Nov 26, 2008 - 10:29 pm 22. JhOnny:Just another example of Indian Separatist war against this state. Why don’t you give them their rights and please stop blaming Muslims from everything bad that happens in India. This is a sad situation you should look up on what wrong deeds that you have done in Kashmir , in Assam etc.
Nov 26, 2008 - 11:14 pm 23. Jason Sieckmann:Ayn Rand warned against people that used the word ’sacrifice’ in reference to any activity.
She referred to them as ‘death worshipers,’ which could not be a more adept term.
Christians, socialists, and mercantilists love to swing the word ’sacrifice’ when they want something; until you’re taking something away from them. Then it’s: “but how will I survive?” Quite possibly the same way that the rest of us have been; by starving.
I’ve got some things we can ’sacrifice’ (should people be so in love with the extreme nature of the term.) I want to ’sacrifice’ the federal reserve, the IRS, and the department of homeland security.
Why? To make us safer; ACTUALLY, safer.
Nov 26, 2008 - 11:17 pm 24. Mama Pajama:“Nothing new under the sun” – King Solomon
Nov 27, 2008 - 12:12 am 25. Demosophist:Most Islamic terrorism is relatively ineffective. The frequency of coordinated attacks is actually so low that were it not for the fact that they’re so lethal they could be safely ignored. The majority of attacks in Kashmir, which has the highest frequency of terrorism in the world, not only do not typically kill anyone other than the terrorist, but often kill sympathizers. Out of hundreds of attacks, only one or two a year are coordinated with other attacks within 24 hours. Up until now coordination, simultaneity, and high lethality, were unique trademarks of Al Qaeda… and practically no one else. For that reason I’d suggest that even if the “muscle” were recruited from Pakistani or Kashmiri separatist groups the action will be found to be funded and organized by Zawahiri. His identity is all over this.
Nov 27, 2008 - 12:40 am 26. Rob:This was well coordinated.
Nov 27, 2008 - 1:09 am 27. Vinchi:Where did these guys train.
and where did they get so many weapons.
Why is there NO Muslin nation/Muslim leader condeming these acts of terrorism..??? Are they and their Muslim faith for or against terrorism…??? WHY sould they expect Any respect or recognition…??? How can anyone recognise a ‘good Muslim’ from a terrorist…???
Nov 27, 2008 - 5:06 am 28. Barry 0351:Muslims should stand up against and sort out their terrorists if they want to live in non-muslim countries and earn respect. The word Muslim has become synonymous with trouble & terrorism, don’t their religious/political leaders care…???
America’s war with Islam ended November 5th 2008
Nov 27, 2008 - 7:33 am 29. Gabi:We lost.
suck it up and move on.
We will learn to bow down five times a day or pay the tax. Then again for many of us it will be war to the death.
Lan Astelam
Interesting statistics here:
This is my breakdown of how the first 27 comments (comment # 1 excluded) posted here view this specific episode of mass-murder by Islamic militants against unarmed tourists in Mumbai:
A. 12 see it as evidence of specific + general Islamic aggression against Non-Muslims: {2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 13, 14, 25, 27}
B. 3 see it as evidence of specific + general Islamic defense from Non-Muslims: {10, 20, 22}
C. 4 see it as evidence primarily of politically-correct liberalism of non-Muslims toward criminal networks in their own societies: {8, 15, 16, 23}
D. 1 sees it as evidence primarily of politically-correct liberalism of Muslims toward criminal networks in their own societies: {12}
E. 5 see it as evidence of specific + general Islamic aggression against non-Muslims combined with non-Islamic politically-correct liberalism toward criminal networks: {17, 18, 19, 21, 28}
F. 2 comments were non-judgmental or requested further information: {24, 26}
Nov 27, 2008 - 9:18 am 30. chuck,:Reports are saying this has Pakistan’s fingerprints. Low-class Moslem loons can’t think beyond killing people; that is the motive. High-class Moslem loons might actually want a war with India, thinking that it would promote the establishment of a jihadist government. Also they might calculate that inevitable chaos of war would cut the land routes to Afghanistan which NATO uses to resupply its forces, making our position there untenable. Two countries gained with one war.
Nov 27, 2008 - 9:23 am 31. susan:And if India was winning? Well, again in their bizarroworld noggins, one billion Moslems would hardly just sit on the sidelines.
And then? Have we a precedent for what happens next in the Sarajevo assassination of 1914?
cedarford
“He showed himself a more competent executive than his Presidential rivals he went head-to-head with. Compared to the badly aging Mr. POW, who was lacking vision, nearly incoherent on issues, and badly mismanaged his campaign and it’s leadership.”
if you are intellectually honest (which I don’t think you are, but let’s suppose), you would only say that when democrats bomb places they are always forgiven, when a republican kills one person, he’s the devil-hitler-etc.
Other than that, Obummer has shown a clear affiliation with “moral equivalence” that means, he’s the type of person who always agrees with 2 different positions.
At least this is something that cannot be said of Mccain or palin. Of course I do not grant you the intellectual honesty to say it.
Nov 27, 2008 - 11:43 am 32. cedarford:Jason Sieckmann:
Ayn Rand warned against people that used the word ’sacrifice’ in reference to any activity.
She referred to them as ‘death worshipers,’ which could not be a more adept term.
Ayn Rand’s heyday was in the early 50s right after millions died so the Nazis did not exterminate her fellow Russian Jews and the Yamoto Race did not reign supreme over Asia. As she wrote her junk about “sacrifice” being worthy of only contempt, Social Darwinism our highest expression of humanity – many of those who “sacrificed” were still learning how to walk in false limbs, still getting plastic surgery from war wounds or fires, and widow’s and mother’s hearts were still shattered. Ayn Rand was just another crass jerk that believed only in looking out for, and enriching her own ass, in the name of Self-Centered “Objectivism”.
That she found the torpedo bomber squadron that flew into the teeth of the Japanese Fleet and lost all 24 planes with only two survivors – but who by their deaths allowed dive bombers to destroy the heart of the Japanese aircraft carrier force, “death worshippers”, is hardly surprising. Or their Kamikaze counterparts sacrifice contemptuous…
Ayn Rand is but a distraction in the path many take to develop their intellect and worldview. Some truths, but typically only for the teen or young adult that believes the world revolves around them, and finding her selfish libertarianism to their taste.
Then they grow up a bit more, and Ayn Rand is scraped off their psyche and ideology like a dog turd they just found stuck to their shoe.
Nov 27, 2008 - 12:38 pm 33. Zeno:There are 17% muslims in India, but no hindus in Pakistan. I don’t know why there are still Muslims in India, since the creation of Pakistan (and later Bangladesh) was exactly to separate muslims from hindus. But I forget that this is a one way street, of course, only non-muslims must be tolerant of muslims. Only non-muslims must accept muslims in their midst, but islamic countries are permitted a monolithical religious society in order to export terror.
Nov 27, 2008 - 1:10 pm 34. Judy, NYC:the time has come to stop sniffing their ass. we know who they are, what they are, and where they are. let’s first get rid of them here. boot them from our universities by the end of next week. shut down their anti-west groups on our campuses immediately. if they protest, shoot them in the head.
to think that this horror won’t come here, and that it is not here, you really have to be psychotic, deluded or just plain stupid.
they target financial centers. they are continually targeting americans, britons and israelis to kill. soon they will go where we are. again. they are just practicing where there are western interests. the real deal is here.
we keep fkg talking about it and them and blah blah blah. and doing nothing. good luck to us and all western democratic societies with that.
Nov 27, 2008 - 1:33 pm 35. bl:Fear shall not rule! Cowards cannot bring us to our knees. True, the vicious masterminds who poison the minds of the weak (little boys, mentally disabled women, and hopeless psychopaths) will strike where ever they can connive to exploit the weak, impoverished, and disillusioned. If they can’t kill us here or in Britain, they turn else where. But, democracy will thwart them at every step, because ordinary, decent people are fed up with them!
This is a wake up call for the new administration to fight for democracy, the rule of law, the right for decent people to make a decent wage, for women to enjoy the rights democracy purports to entitle them, for universal, quality healthcare and the human rights that our creator has endowed us with! Corruption, ingorance, separatist cult/religious movements and entrenched power elites must be called to task. Long live Democracy!
Nov 27, 2008 - 2:07 pm 36. Norman Simms:Herw we go. It seemed already several months ago that we were on the verge of a major series of huge terorist attacks–and they will leapfrog from country tio country, trying now to take advantage of the west’s economic problems.
Then look at the media: which (a) do not mention at all the Israeli victims and hostages, (b) fail to identify Chabad house, (c) draw any conclusions from the deliebrate targetting of British, American and Jewish/Israeli visitors in Mumbai.
Note too about the Somali pirates, that it was the Indian navy that attacked and destoryed their mother ship.
Nov 27, 2008 - 5:38 pm 37. rvastar:Everyone with an ounce of nuance knows that terrorism is best handled by solid police work and grievance mitigation.
So just call 911 and Judge Judy.
Nov 27, 2008 - 6:48 pm 38. bl:Norman Simms: As always, your comments are right on point! Sorry to say, please keep the updates from “Down Under” coming, things seem to be moving in that direction. We have to keep the pressure on, it’s sad that two od India’s leading terrorist/police specialists were killed in these attacks. Education is the key and we need more and more experts to debunk the propaganda and enlighten the masses. As they say on the subway, “If you something suspicious, Report it!” Thanks.
Nov 27, 2008 - 7:32 pm 39. M. Simon:I forget which century but some time in the 1500s to 1700s a Muslim Emperor in India killed 100,000 Hindus every year in honor of Mohamed.
Nov 27, 2008 - 7:48 pm 40. fred:At some point we are going to lose our patience with the Mooscums. But first we’ll tell the libtards and Leftists – allies of convenience with the Mooscums – to leave the country and go somewhere else. Leave us alone so we can take care of business with dar al Islam: for a PERMANENT solution.
Nov 27, 2008 - 9:17 pm 41. M. Simon:True, though w/ every terror attack by these savages, maybe another hundred left wing kooks here & abroad wake up — maybe?
I don’t like the exchange ratio.
Nov 27, 2008 - 9:33 pm 42. Tom:The REAL enemy to fear is the enemy within; the Left Democratic Party, the Neo Marxists.
Nov 27, 2008 - 10:59 pm 43. Chesler Chronicles » The Thanksgiving Day Massacre in Mumbai:Fundamentalist Islam wouldn’t stand a chance if it wasn’t for the PsyWar brainwashing tactics of the Left Media who have lulled Americans to a deep and deadly sleep.
It is the Left in this country that hides, shields and protects the growing genocidal infiltration of Islam into America and the West. They are like the blockers on a football team, who smash aside those trying to get at the runner with the ball.
We cannot hope to stop the Jihadis until we identify and eliminate the traitors within.
[...] I previously wrote, Islamic fundamentalists have declared a major, global war against the West and against non-Wahabi [...]
Nov 28, 2008 - 10:17 am 44. John Peter Maher:Serbs beheaded in Bosnia and Kosovo|
Beheading videos found in Wahabi laptops
November 26, 2008 – 10:19 am
Digital videos of beheadings have been found on the laptop seized by the Serbian authorities from the arrested Wahabis charged for plotting attacks in Serbia, including an attack on the US Embassy in Belgrade.
Investigator Mladen Vukovic testified that among the 10,000 files found on the seized laptop, videos were found of humans being beheaded.
“From one laptop we separated the material that we have transferred to 3 DVDs,” says Vukovic.
Vukovic was assigned the task to analyze the contents of the laptop because of his expertise in the psychology of religions.
15 Wahabis have been arrested earlier this year by the Serbian police. Their camp was found on a top of the mountain containing weapons, explosives and outdoor training facility for terror.
Maps and photos of potential targets, including the US Embassy in Belgrade were also seized.
Wahabis at the trial deny all charges.
“The investigator has erased two files, and left the third on which beheading is seen,” replied Senad Ramovic, considered one among the leaders.
Ramovic charged Vukovic with hatred of Islam saying that Vukovic was “choosing files because of his hatred for Muslims”.
In yesterdays testimony, a witness who attended the same mosque as the charged suddenly alleged that he had an amnesia and could no longer recollect facts he told the police prior to testifying.
The trial of the 15 Wahabis will continue on Thursday.
November 26, 2008
Nov 28, 2008 - 10:44 am 45. peter mcdougald:SERBIANNA
TYhis is obviously an inside job, ask any truther. I see that the Islamic/Muslim terrorists do not racial profile, they have an only indiscriminate taste for targeting jews and whitey. Anyone else who gets caught in the crossfire is simply collateral damage and a certain one way ticket to paradise. Do the left wing crazies see this as war yet?
Nov 28, 2008 - 11:15 am 46. wassom:Luv ya Judy, NYC. let’s remember this when it comes time to vote on disarmament of our citizens. We need to hold on to our constitutional rights to bear arms, because it will come to our shores. They do live among us, and it is just a matter of time before a city, church, or government building is taken over here. Who will fight for us? the bleeding heart’s on the left? if the case against the two border patrol agents that shot a drug smuggler in the a$$ is any indication…no.
Nov 28, 2008 - 2:44 pm 47. Rashputin:wassom – “Who will fight for us? the bleeding heart’s on the left?”
Actually, it’s the lefties who should be asking who will fight for them. Rabid leftie democrats cheer on terrorists, self-styled elitist democrats excuse terrorists, and career politician democrats think you can payoff terrorists.
The same core people who looked at terrorism as a law enforcement problem under Clinton are the ones Obama just brought back. Who would volunteer to help the same idiots recover from the same mistake a second time? By the time Obama realizes that these scum aren’t like his elementary school buddies back in Indonesia, he’ll have to draft eitire university student bodies and faculties before he gets any volunteers.
Regards
Nov 28, 2008 - 4:01 pm 48. kevin c:SADLY, THE WAY I SEE IS SIMPLE-ISLAM WAS NOT “HIJACKED” BY TERRROISTS, BUT INSTEAD USES TERRORISM TO ACHIEVE ITS OWN GOALS OF AN ISLAMIC SUPREMACY. NO DIFFERENT THAN HITLER IN THE 1930S CALLING THE “AYRAN” RACE SUPERIOR. THESE SCUM DESERVE ONLY THE BUSINESS SIDE OF A RIFLE.
Nov 29, 2008 - 8:48 am 49. kevin c:JP EDITOR(#21) IS CORRECT- WE REAL MEN WILL HAVE TO REMOVE THIS CANCEROUS BLIGHT SOONER OR LATER, ALONG WITH THERE COMMIE HELPERS AND ENABLERS(ID BET MOST CHINESE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE “RED” LABEL REMOVED).
Nov 29, 2008 - 8:59 am 50. kabud:5. fred:
Thank you for reminding us about the bloodiest and longest genocidal wars in human history
this is a TABU subject in India but Hindu party doesnt like this and talks about it
China and Kremlin are interested in the war btw India and Pakistan because it should weaken India
India is developing better economic model ten China has well of course political system is by far better
So India as USA ally is viewed by Beijing as the number one enemy in the region
Dec 1, 2008 - 9:56 pm