Comments on: Madoff the Jew: The Media’s Hypocritical Obsession with the Fraudster’s Faith http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:43:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Clark Kent http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-11006 Clark Kent Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:22:31 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-11006 I live in the UK. I am not religious. Religions are man made. A strange thing happened. I read about Madoff, and the scale of the scam, and thought: "I bet he's a Jew" Why did this thought pop into my mind? I live in the UK. I am not religious. Religions are man made.
A strange thing happened. I read about Madoff, and the scale of the scam, and thought:
“I bet he’s a Jew”
Why did this thought pop into my mind?

]]> By: Muhammed Atta http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-11005 Muhammed Atta Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:54:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-11005 Ahad.... "Moses".... "leadership". A competent teacher would have gotten the point across by now, save your own personal exile from rational thought, that these are myths, lore, stories, and excuses for power. Hopefully Obama will end the nonsense support of Israel and force them to blend in, or move on. Ahad…. “Moses”…. “leadership”. A competent teacher would have gotten the point across by now, save your own personal exile from rational thought, that these are myths, lore, stories, and excuses for power.

Hopefully Obama will end the nonsense support of Israel and force them to blend in, or move on.

]]> By: Crazy http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-10666 Crazy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:35:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-10666 Saying crap like jews are gods chosen people is the reason people hate you so much throughout history. Saying crap like jews are gods chosen people is the reason people hate you so much throughout history.

]]> By: Steve Surabian http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-10311 Steve Surabian Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:43:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-10311 Jews are not Gods chosen people? Isreal is.God changed Jacobs name to Isreal and all his decendants.Outsiders could alway join. They just had to do as God wanted. If you broke the law your were no longer part of Isreal, even if you traced you liniage back drictly to Jacob.So when an Isrealite didn't keep the law like not keeping the Pass-Over they gave-up being Isrealites just like they gave-up keeping the Pass-Over.If this were not true then a Palistian whose ansester was at one time was an Isrialite, would himself still be an Isrealite even though they do not practice what God wants.So that would mean that the Land of Isreal belonged to Palistians even though they didn't keep Gods laws. So now we come to present day. God sent his Son Jesus Christ and Jesus said the only way to the Father is through Him. There-for if you don't accept Jesus you stop being an Isrialite. So wether you are a direct decendant of Jacob or not the only way to be part of Isrial is to accept Jesus to be the rightfull heirs to Isrial...Everyone is welcomed as an Isrealite,which means Gods People.You have to accept Jesus to keep all of Gods laws. Steven Surabian a True Isrealite Jews are not Gods chosen people? Isreal is.God changed Jacobs name to Isreal and all his decendants.Outsiders could alway join. They just had to do as God wanted. If you broke the law your were no longer part of Isreal, even if you traced you liniage back drictly to Jacob.So when an Isrealite didn’t keep the law like not keeping the Pass-Over they gave-up being Isrealites just like they gave-up keeping the Pass-Over.If this were not true then a Palistian whose ansester was at one time was an Isrialite, would himself still be an Isrealite even though they do not practice what God wants.So that would mean that the Land of Isreal belonged to Palistians even though they didn’t keep Gods laws.
So now we come to present day. God sent his Son Jesus Christ and Jesus said the only way to the Father is through Him. There-for if you don’t accept Jesus you stop being an Isrialite.
So wether you are a direct decendant of Jacob or not the only way to be part of Isrial is to accept Jesus to be the rightfull heirs to Isrial…Everyone is welcomed as an Isrealite,which means Gods People.You have to accept Jesus to keep all of Gods laws.
Steven Surabian a True Isrealite

]]> By: ERIC http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-9461 ERIC Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:21:28 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-9461 Bottom line, what does religion have to do with it??????????? Bush allowed the rapping of our economy, profiting billions from oil companies. I am a Jew and proud of it, but again, what the F--- does being a Jew have to do with Bernie Madoff's horrific scheme? By the way, let the oil companies bail out the Big 3.Are they Jewish too? Bottom line, what does religion have to do with it???????????
Bush allowed the rapping of our economy, profiting billions from oil companies.
I am a Jew and proud of it, but again, what the F— does being a Jew have to do with Bernie Madoff’s horrific scheme?
By the way, let the oil companies bail out the Big 3.Are they Jewish too?

]]> By: J.Penson http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-9456 J.Penson Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:01:46 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-9456 Primarily the world is anti-semitic.I grew up with Gentiles who are not, but the greater majority are soft core.The Madoff swindle is only another opportunity for the anti-semites. Consider Israel's response to Hamas by the European Union....it is ok for Hamas to lob rockets into Israel without condemnation, but Israel's response must be at the very best muted.JP Primarily the world is anti-semitic.I grew up
with Gentiles who are not, but the greater majority are soft core.The Madoff swindle is
only another opportunity for the anti-semites.
Consider Israel’s response to Hamas by the
European Union….it is ok for Hamas to lob
rockets into Israel without condemnation, but
Israel’s response must be at the very best muted.JP

]]> By: ahad ha'amoratsim http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-9150 ahad ha'amoratsim Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:11:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-9150 joseph, you are a Jew? Well, it's a long and bitter exile, which may explain your lack of familiarity with Chumash and your echoing of anti-Semitic tropes that have their roots in Christian anti-Semitism. Flash -- the golden calf had nothing to do with greed or materialism. It had to do with doubting Moses' leadership and the connection between G-d and the Jewish people. Go back and read the text. Flash #2 -- the 40 years in the desert was the punishment for believing the report of the 10 spies and doubting G-d's power to bring us into the land of Israel, and doubting that His love of the Jewish people led Him to give us the land. Go back and read the text, preferably with the aid of a competent teacher and the aid of a few of the classic commentators. joseph, you are a Jew? Well, it’s a long and bitter exile, which may explain your lack of familiarity with Chumash and your echoing of anti-Semitic tropes that have their roots in Christian anti-Semitism. Flash — the golden calf had nothing to do with greed or materialism. It had to do with doubting Moses’ leadership and the connection between G-d and the Jewish people. Go back and read the text. Flash #2 — the 40 years in the desert was the punishment for believing the report of the 10 spies and doubting G-d’s power to bring us into the land of Israel, and doubting that His love of the Jewish people led Him to give us the land. Go back and read the text, preferably with the aid of a competent teacher and the aid of a few of the classic commentators.

]]> By: Skeptic http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-9139 Skeptic Sun, 28 Dec 2008 08:00:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-9139 >>>I know this because *I am a jew* and my family built banks. many of my ancestors are *stuck in purgatory*... Jews believe in purgatory? That's news to me, Mr. "My family built banks like all those Jews do"... >>>I know this because *I am a jew* and my family built banks. many of my ancestors are *stuck in purgatory*…

Jews believe in purgatory? That’s news to me, Mr. “My family built banks like all those Jews do”…

]]> By: Skeptic http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-9138 Skeptic Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:54:48 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-9138 Er, so far as I can tell Madoff's religion or support of Israel is mostly mentioned, in the respectable media anyway, as an explanation for why so many Jewish and Israeli organizations were scammed by him. I don't see why that is antisemitic. If Madoff were Irish and a supported of Ireland, I would fully expect that to be mentioned when explaining why so many Irish-Americans or Irish institutions were scammed by him. Scams work on trust, and the scammer being of the same social group as the scammed builds on a resevoir of initial trust. So pointing out that Madoff's Jewishness was (part of) the reason he scammed so many other Jews is hardly "antisemitism". Er, so far as I can tell Madoff’s religion or support of Israel is mostly mentioned, in the respectable media anyway, as an explanation for why so many Jewish and Israeli organizations were scammed by him.

I don’t see why that is antisemitic. If Madoff were Irish and a supported of Ireland, I would fully expect that to be mentioned when explaining why so many Irish-Americans or Irish institutions were scammed by him.

Scams work on trust, and the scammer being of the same social group as the scammed builds on a resevoir of initial trust. So pointing out that Madoff’s Jewishness was (part of) the reason he scammed so many other Jews is hardly “antisemitism”.

]]> By: joseph http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2008/12/26/madoff-the-jew-the-medias-hypocritical-obsession-with-the-fraudsters-faith/comment-page-1/#comment-9130 joseph Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:07:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/?p=536#comment-9130 jews are God's chosen people, but they also have a weakness for the golden calf, that's why God punished them and made them wander in the desert for 40 years. jews are loving family people with high moral integrity, but also keen business people who love and hoard money. i know this because i am a jew and my family built banks. many of my ancestors are stuck in purgatory due to their greed and lust for power. so, call it what you will, but God knows your heart. always put God first, not the world. Good luck... jews are God’s chosen people, but they also have a weakness for the golden calf, that’s why God punished them and made them wander in the desert for 40 years. jews are loving family people with high moral integrity, but also keen business people who love and hoard money. i know this because i am a jew and my family built banks. many of my ancestors are stuck in purgatory due to their greed and lust for power. so, call it what you will, but God knows your heart. always put God first, not the world. Good luck…

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