“I have come to warn you of a great threat. Free speech is no longer a given, we must now battle for our birthright. We are looking at the end of democracy, the slavery of women, the death of gays. While there might be moderate Muslims, there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Islam is not a religion, it is a political and totalitarian ideology.”
Some would say that these are fighting words.
Indeed, Dutch parliamentarian, Geert Wilders, is fighting for Western liberty and Western values, as rooted in the legacies of “Athens, Rome, and Jerusalem.” This is the legacy he wishes to leave the “children of Europe,” as opposed to the legacy of “Mecca and Gaza.” Wilders is fighting for us all, his fight is our fight. As he said earlier today, “it is not about (him) but about Free Speech.” Today he may be a “criminal, tomorrow, anyone of us might be considered a criminal too,” for telling the truth about the danger that Islam poses to Western democracy. “Today I may be put behind bars. I am not the issue. Will free speech be put behind bars?”
“It is not 8:55pm. It is 11:55pm. We will lose everything.”
Wilders is very blond, quite trim, and well tailored, both matter-of-fact and charming in a way that does not come across in still photos. Wilders’ Dutch and Scandinavian entourage: other members of Parliament, such as Barry Madlener, of the Party of Freedom, (PVV), with whom I sat, and Lars Hedegaard, (the head of The Free Speech Society–Denmark), were all impossibly handsome, healthy, fluent in English, and heartbreakingly serious.
“The Left has hated Christianity for decades. Now, it demands respect for Islam. Guess why? The Left and Islam are both opposed to criticism of any kind. Where the Left and Islam come together, freedom will always suffer.”
Wilders attributes the erosion of Western sanity and courage to the infernal doctrine of “multicultural relativism which has fatefully weakened the West.” Such politically correct beliefs have led to the liberal Dutch Labor Party’s initiation of the lawsuit against Wilders. While the public prosecutor’s office declined to prosecute Wilders for “hate speech,” (hundreds of people wrote to the Prosecutors on Wilders’ behalf), the liberals appealed their ruling to the High Court in Amsterdam which actually overruled the public prosecutor’s decision. Wilders is on his way to appeal this last decision in the Dutch Supreme Court. He says, wryly, that the lawsuits may last until 2015.
There we all were, on a cold and sunny day in February, the creme de la creme of New York’s anti-jihadists, gathered together in Manhattan’s Four Seasons restaurant, to honor Geert Wilders, all of us the guests of The Hudson–New York Briefing Council. The tall and elegant Dr. Herbert London, the author of a new and wonderful book, America’s Secular Challenge. The Rise of a New National Religion presided. I was so happy to see him and many others, including Anne Bayefsky, Dr. Anat Berko, Dr. Andrew Bostom, Helen Freedman, Ibn Warraq, Joel Mowbray, Deroy Murdock, Pierre Rehov, Claudia Rossett, Ilyse Wilpon, Tim Wilson, and Barbara Winston, all of whom do extraordinary anti-terrorist and anti-jihadi work. I was honored to be among them. (Other important people were present but I am not at liberty to divulge their names).
Wilders said: “The liberals are blinded by multicultural relativism.”
Ah yes, we have all written as much dozens of times, hundreds of times, and the “great disdain” of the leftists and liberals for this particular sentence is something that Wilders also knows a great deal about. But, Wilders points out, these same “leftists and liberals participate in demonstrations where they shout ‘Death to the Jews.’ They bring shame upon Europe.” Wilders asks: “Are we going to sell Israel, our dearest ally, out?”
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1. e:Do you have audio/video of MP Wilders’s comments in New York. I’d like to see that if you do.
Good article.
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Feb 23, 2009 - 7:47 pm 3. George Jochnowitz:There are only two systems of belief nowadays that are accepted with blind faith: Marxism and Islam. That is why there is a Marxist-Islamic alliance.
Feb 23, 2009 - 7:51 pm 4. Norman Simms:Thank God! At least New York City remains free and open–and civilized; and other parts of the United States.
It is somewhat reassuring to know that Wilders could still speak freely in America, though he is right to fear that Dhimmitude has already settled down like a heavy poisonous cloud over most of the so-called free world already.
Good work, Phyllis, is bringing this–and so much else–to our attention.
Norman
Feb 23, 2009 - 8:43 pm 5. May Pelletier:Phyllis Chesler: Put my name on your list. Geert Wilders is a hero and his name will go down in history. I applaud all you do, and the hour is late! We do understand. We are behind you and willing to help.
Feb 23, 2009 - 10:10 pm 6. Éamonn Gavin:God go with you!
Keep up your excellent work, Phyllis. It is a real cause for concern that Western civilization appears to be sound asleep in the presence of this untold evil. Even here in Ireland, a country whose history should equip its people to be aware that some outside influences have to be fought off, the general population appears to accept the media stance that Geert Wilders is a right wing racist. For my own part, I strongly consider that it is people like you and Mr. Wilders, and a few other valiant souls, who will initiate our salvation from the monster which tells us that its sole aim – duty, even – in this world is the total annihilation of Western civilization. May God Bless Your Work, Phyllis. Éamonn, Dublin, Ireland.
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Feb 24, 2009 - 2:44 am 8. Is there a rational for Islam's deign against civilization?:I personally do not understand the “death of gays” part thinking in the quote. A culture, a society, religion as mysoginist as is Islam to my perception is inherently “gay”. Lawrence of Arabia – the romance of him in the David Lean film in which no women’s voice throughout the very lengthy film is to be heard (!) – the love affair England has always had with the Arabs – points to a homophile “culture” – one that embraces it! Indeed, one could argue the maltreatment of young boys by men in such a culture may very well instill so great an anger and rage it seeks the the ultimate destruction of the world!
Feb 24, 2009 - 3:29 am 9. Kris:I lived in The Netherlands for two years. There were more Dutch people I spoke to who supported Wilder’s views – but were scared/ashamed/embarressed to voice them publicly. I hope that starts to change. Now that Britain has deported a radical imam, perhaps things will start to change for the better. Threats of public violence must not deter the Western world from defending the one thing that sets us apart – and entices people from all over the world to immigrate to our countries – our freedom. Let’s hope the US starts to stand up more vocally for the ethics, values and way of life on which our country was founded.
Feb 24, 2009 - 4:04 am 10. sandra Vigileos:I am American and living in the Netherlands. I am a big Geert Wilders supporter. Geert Wilders is a fantastic politician.
Feb 24, 2009 - 4:53 am 11. Bill Gibs:Sign the Petition “Freedom of Speech”
Feb 24, 2009 - 5:16 am 12. J.J. Sefton:http://www.petitiononline.com/wilders/
I am a New Yorker and would have loved to have heard Mr. Wilders speak. If possible, could you put me on a mailing list of future events?
In any case, the nexus of Islam and the Left must be stopped at all costs. What happened to the representatives of the Minute Men at Columbia University a couple of years ago might very well happen again.
Feb 24, 2009 - 5:43 am 13. chuck,:Let’s not get too comfortable. It’s on the agenda of our new administration and its associates to terminate our Bill of Rights in a 1,000 tinyl, lawyerish nibbles. Have you hugged your 2nd Amendment today?
Feb 24, 2009 - 5:53 am 14. Jeremy:I watched Fitna, and it is probably the most powerful film I have ever seen. MP Wilders should be commended. However, we should not over look his calls to ban the Quran, which is certainly not in line with free-speech principles. He is also aligned with right-wing, anti-semitic groups in Holland. So yes, I am a big fan of his, and the world needs to know about Islam and it’s violence, but we shouldn’t go too far in praising Mr. Wilders either.
Feb 24, 2009 - 6:10 am 15. Terry Gain:“While there might be moderate Muslims, there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Islam is not a religion, it is a political and totalitarian ideology.”
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In a nutshell. Islam is a political and religious ideology. The political gives it gives it organizational capability and goals and the religion zealotry and practical immunity from criticism. And demography will guarantee its future.
Unless the Islamists engage in more spectacular attacks on America it is going to be very difficult to derail the Islamic takeover of the world.
Feb 24, 2009 - 6:36 am 16. Pelena:Islamism and Adolf Hitler have long historical ties:
Feb 24, 2009 - 6:48 am 17. Blackwater:This news report from Bayerischer Rundfunk explains in detail the cooperation between the Nazis and the Muslim Arab leaders during WW2.
Hitler, The Mufti Of Jerusalem And Modern Islamo Nazism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d51poygEXYU_
We all need to be Geert Wilders by standing up for our values and freedoms. We should all make a public statement as normal every day citizens to show our support for enlightened values in the face of religious intolerance. Like the Iraqis did on election day by dipping their thumbs in ink. I suggest we all start wearing t-shirts with that Danish cartoon on them. Just like the Che t-shirt trend.
Feb 24, 2009 - 6:57 am 18. SomeIntegrity:We can try something new.
1. A reasonable short history of Islam. Explanation of the origin. And the corrupting power injected by kings who adapted Islam.
2. Another short history of the Wahabbi – Saudi alliance and the tyranny by the Saudi King.
3. A sympathetic view of the ordinary good, honest Muslims.
4. A search for the theological and political extremists in Islam.
How they copied the worst rulers of Europe and Asia.
And hopefully, we can all move to secular reasoning to defuse the extraordinary aggression of many power hungry rulers.
Feb 24, 2009 - 7:03 am 19. HardHeadedWoman:Mr. Simms, the entire United States remains free and open–so far–not just New York City. In fact, some of us here in fly-over country believe that we are more free than those who live in NYC, land of the left.
Feb 24, 2009 - 7:10 am 20. Laura:#14 Jeremy
Actually Geert has visited Israel many times and supports Israelis. He is not anti-semitic himself.
Feb 24, 2009 - 7:23 am 21. Ron:Geert Wilders is definitely doing us all a favor not only by calling out the threat by radical Islam, but also by illustrating the even more pressing issue, which is the blindness within our own societies. Banning the Quran though? I don’t think we want to go there. I think Muslims need to rediscover what is great in their own history and culture…and there’s a lot there. Sure, you have to go back centuries to find it…so that’s what they should do, and we should help them and encourage them. Remember in the Dark Ages Islam was the light of learning and culture in the world, while Europeans lived in ignorance and squalor. In Spain a thousand years ago, Muslims, Christians and Jews lived in relative harmony. It is very ironic how the tables have turned…and so much of Islam today is stuck in it’s own Dark Age. We cannot crush this menace, we need to channel it in a more positive direction. The opposite of hatred of “other” in Islam will be the rediscovery of genuine pride in self.
Feb 24, 2009 - 7:36 am 22. LynnS:#14 Jeremy
Feb 24, 2009 - 7:56 am 23. AJR Journal:I also think that we should be careful before rushing to praise with Geert Wilders. The film is powerful and thought provoking and merits discussion, but I would like to find out what hard right anti-semitic organizations he aligns himself with. I understand that with death threats against him, there are probably those who would like to smear his reputation and yet it would be prudent to make sure he does not harbor supremacist views, though it’s strange how we tolerate Islam supremacist views.
Remember the classic line from the movie “Spartacus”?
Feb 24, 2009 - 8:33 am 24. Alex:To paraphrase, “I am Geert Wilders!”
Now, repeat after me ……………..
# 18 Someintegrity
Now your on to nitty gritty. This website is screaming and yelling for Iranian blood, when the true threat is house of Saud and Wahhabi teachings. We dont buy oil from Iran, but load up and enrich dictators that fund schools to teach strict fundamentalist Islam, Follow the money.
ARAMCO stands for Arab American Company, the state owned company founded by standard oil company and texaco 1933 in Saudi Arabia. It is the largest private company in the world, estimated to be worth over 1 trillion dollars. This entity allows the House of Saud to fund spread of Fundamentalist Islam ( Wahhabi), which is just a tool to seize political and economic power.
It is similar to witch burnings in the middle ages, the church recieved lands and wealth of accused and usually murdered witch. Guess which way the church would rule in the trial..? The witch was incidental, it was wealth the church focused on.
Saudi royal family benifits from spreading Fundamentalist teachings economically and politically, regardless of consequences to a country or people that become collateral damage in quest to spread Islam. They are focused on wealth, Islam and Israel are just tools in the quest.
Where did the terrorists that flew into Twin Towers originate from..? How much money does the house of Saud give to al queda each and every year…to the Taliban…to other terrorist organizations..? The House of Saud is in this up to their elbows and Arses. We invaded Iraq, when the true regime backing wahhabi schools and of islam and outright terrorism is House of Saud, and has been for hundreds of years.
The House of Saud wants to eliminate Iran from the region, and has the most to lose from nuclear Iran other than Israel. There is a power bloc forming between House of Saud, Israel and Egypt against Iran in the region.
Feb 24, 2009 - 8:48 am 25. Yona:For the issue of Iran, there will be an alliance between these three powers. After Iran is taken care of, House of Saud will go back to business as usual and continue spreading their brand of wahhabism.
I’m a Dutch citizen and when I mention I support Geert Wilders, my friends and family look at me like I’m a pariah. Probably things will have to get worse before they see the hypocrisy.
Feb 24, 2009 - 8:51 am 26. Blue Falcon:I wouldn’t get too excited with Geert Wilders since he threw his hat in with Stormfront, VB, and other ultranationalist/racist thugs.
Wilders pointed out one fascist group of crazies who need to be stopped and unfortunately aligned himself with other fascist groups of crazies who need to be stopped.
Feb 24, 2009 - 8:58 am 27. Bobby Stern:To #23. I am Geert Wilders!
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:00 am 28. LynnS:#21 I agree that banning the Quran would be a fatal error on our part and I think that there are some who would have liked to take it back and rewrite it before it was translated into other languages, and before we discovered the parts that call for death to the Jews and Infidels. But I’m sure that was put in AFTER it spread into Spain to give the Infidels an excuse to drive them back. The sword of Islam without a drop of blood on the blade. Amazing. Should we let them rewrite our history too? When you say light, do you mean the glint on the shiny metal of the sword?
I am made victorious with terror!! Sounds prideful to me.
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:02 am 29. karen:Phyllis, we love you! Thank God for you and Geert Wilders and all those who speak for the survival of western civilization.
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:03 am 30. Adam Daniel Mezei:#14 Jeremy,
Ditto…I’d like some corroborating evidence on that claim as well.
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:05 am 31. ked5:In one of my homeschool groups is a woman who is Saudi Arabian. She is also a muslim convert to Christianity. She would agree with Geert Wilders – her own comment when the subject of Islam came up was – “it is NOT a religion of peace, peace has nothing to do with it. It is not a religion at all. It is a LAW system.” She made a number of other comments that Islamic apologists in the west don’t want to hear, concluding with the fact her own family is DISobeying the tenents of Islam as practiced in the mid-east by NOT killing her for leaving Islam.
Though also for all those muslim apologists – especially NON-muslims apologists, go read what Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of a very big wig in HAMAS has to say about Islam. He is a convert to Christianity, calls Islam a hateful religion and if muslims would examine it closely (something they aren’t allowed to do), they’d leave it.
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:21 am 32. ked5:#3
There was a journalist in the 30’s who spent some time in Germany. the Nazi’s really liked Islam too.
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:22 am 33. Bobby Stern:Dear Dr. Chesler:
Do you have an e-mail address where we can make donations to Geert Wilders? I went to the Hudson Institute website, but could find nothing relating to Mr. Wilders. I publish a weekly e-digest dealing with anti-Semitism, Israel and US national security. This week’s issue contains a link to the above article (see below. I would like to let my readers know where they too may make a contribution.
Thank you,
Bobby
From The Chesler Chronicles
A Dutch Hero Comes to Warn Us, Seek Our Support:
The Incomparable Geert Wilders, MP, in New York City.
By Phyllis Chesler
Wilders had been invited to show his film, Fitna, in the British Parliament. One Lord Ahmed threatened that if this happened, there would be 10,000 Muslims protesting on the street. And worse. Thus, Wilders, a Dutch MP, was detained at the airport. For three and a half hours, the British authorities did not allow the Dutch Ambassador to Britain to see Wilders. Shockingly, Wilders was deported from England–in his words, “the first member of a European government to be denied entry to another European country.” This is beyond remarkable, even beyond surreal, when you think about how many Muslim hate preachers and Muslim terrorists Britain has allowed both entry and citizenship. Wilders is wanted in Jordan to stand trial as well; he potentially faces deportation. Wilders has received so many death threats that he has been under armed guard for four and a half years. And yet: His face is unlined, his words flow smoothly. He does not look harried. He does not have a haunted, hunted look in his eyes.
Geert Wilders is a genuine hero. Dr. Phyllis Chesler has done a great job in covering his talk in NYC. We all need to stand tall and support this great man. Dr. Chesler mentioned making contributions to MP Wilders via the Hudson Institute, but I was unable to find anything related to that topic on the Institutes website. I will keep digging so that I may make a small contribution. I will keep you informed. In the meantime be sure to read this column. (RDS)
Read more
Bobby
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:35 am 34. Chris Jones:Wilders really is a hero. Thank God he has the courage to speak out against Islam. We must resist unchecked Islamic immigration to this country at all costs. Canada has already given in, but we must not.
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:42 am 35. LafSchaap:Mr Wilders and his party have absolutely nothing to do with any anti-semitic organisation or ideas. Even his enemies had to admit that, and they really tried very hard to find something that would indicate the opposite. In vain.
Feb 24, 2009 - 10:02 am 36. therealist:#31 ked is absolutely correct. Islam is not just a religion. It is an ideology that, like communism, demands totalitarian control over you in order to reach its ends. Shariah law and the pure Islamist state only “works” if there are religious police and imam-ruled courts ready to sentence you to maiming or worse for any transgression against God. Its piety at the point of a gun and you can see it all over the middle east. It was at its worst in Afghanistan under the Taliban.
There’s also a numbers element to it which can’t be quantified reliably, but is obvious to all. Liberals love to equate, look at Eric Rudolph, the olympic park bomber, they might say. However if you polled Christians and Muslims and asked them whether they favored violence against the state and/or the innocent to meet political or religious objectives, I absolutely guarantee you that 99% of Christians would say no, and about 30-40% of muslims would say yes. As far as i know, this poll hasn’t been taken, but its obvious to everyone who’s been watching Arab demonstrators burn the US flag for years that there is a huge amount of popular support for terrorism against Israel and the US in the name of Islam and a twisted notion of political justice.
Feb 24, 2009 - 10:02 am 37. Ron:#28/Lynn.. couple of thoughts. One, when I said it was the “light” of civilizataion at the time, I didn’t mean by modern standards. I meant relative to Europe, which was savage by comparison. And as far as your analysis of the Quran goes, it is the prevailing wisdom but I think upon close consideration, it’s largely specious. We shouldn’t be blind to the negative stuff that is in there, but let’s be fair – the Bible and Christian tradition don’t really stand up to this kind of scrutiny either. The triumph of western civilization has been to take what is positive in scripture…the spirtual essence, understand that “eye for an eye” is not literal, and then learn to have the humanistic and spiritual sides of life/society co-exist. And remember, that wasn’t exactly easy for us either. Or, we can have a steel cage match I suppose… Osama vs. Torquemada…winner take all.
Feb 24, 2009 - 10:16 am 38. David W. Lincoln:Those who do not want to see will not see. Lets face, those who do not remember the past
Feb 24, 2009 - 10:29 am 39. ked5:are condemned to relive it, and frankly vision is needed to remember the past.
#36
Feb 24, 2009 - 11:02 am 40. Canuck:The poll *has* been taken of Muslims living in the US – would they support suicide bombing in some circumstances. You are overly generous in your *only* 30-40% support, the results were much higher. And that was of muslims living in the US.
#37 – Where you’re mistaken is the assumption that these religions have gone through the same progressions. Unlike the bible and Christianity, Islam (while it has suffered on major schism)can point to no New Testament, no rennaissance, no reformation, no much needed enlightenment. It is what it is. A 7th century religious totalitarianism.
Feb 24, 2009 - 11:11 am 41. LynnS:#37 And I’m telling you that the light you saw from the Middle East into Africa, Europe and Asia was the glint off the metal of a sword. Except when it was covered with blood of course.
And I’m telling you that the Bible accurately portrays the history of a people both good and evil, right and wrong, no sugar coating, no excuses.
To be fair so should Islam. Accurately reflect their history and teachings that is.
Feb 24, 2009 - 11:38 am 42. Ron:Canuck, we are in total accord. What I am saying is that is what is needed…an Islamic Reformation. Impossible? I sure hope not.
Feb 24, 2009 - 11:41 am 43. Fantom:I would have no problem with banning the koran. We have the right to Keep and Bear arms, yet machine guns are effectively banned. We cannot own nuclear weapons. Is is hardly debatable that the koran is a weapon of mass destruction. Therefore common sense restrictions on it’s ownership and use are called for.
The moslem aggression called for in the koran makes both it and moslems incompatable with any other people. It is not a new “saudi wabi” thing. It has been with us since islam first dawned.
Feb 24, 2009 - 12:08 pm 44. Marc Malone:#37 Ron – This whole Dark Ages meme really annoys me. It was not a Dark Age. It was an age of enlightenment. It is true that technology stagnated or was lost, but such is also learning. Science is not the only kind of learning.
The spread of Christianity wiped out the foul norse religion and the druidic animism. These religions called for animal, and even human, sacrifice. Christianity ended all that. It also led to the concepts of Chivalry, of Honor, and of Decency, to name a few. “Women and children first” is not something the rest of the world understands. These developments are why Western Civilization has been so dominant.
Feb 24, 2009 - 12:12 pm 45. Marc Malone:As to the article, I found it hard to read. Mrs. Chesler’s grammar is atrocious. “Anyone of us…” should be “Any one of us….” Two words: not one. Her sentences run on. Her punctuation is terrible. I kept having to re-read parts to get her meaning. This is just unacceptable in a writer.
Also, the fawning over the good looks of these men is totally inappropriate. What if a man went on about the beauteous women in such-and-such a circle? He’d be branded a pig.
This is an important subject written by an amateur. It’s good that it was addressed, but it was truly laborious to read.
Feb 24, 2009 - 12:22 pm 46. Fantom:That is correct Mark Malone.
One need only look at what happened in Christian lands and moslem lands to make a profound understanding. Christianity lifted the West to prominence……. islam delivered an otherwise advanced people into the savagery they now represent… allah akbar ,dark ages indeed.
Feb 24, 2009 - 12:26 pm 47. Nonner:Today at my high school, we were “treated” to what was called a “Diversity Day”, funded by a few local patrons, a charity or two, and even a couple of big name companies like Exxon Mobil.
I was struck by how incredibly unimaginative the whole thing was; for roughly six hours we listened to various “traditional” music, did the odd arts and crafts project, and heard a few speeches about “How Words Can Hurt”. That some institutions, or for that matter cultures, deserve criticism was completely unconsidered.
But to get to the point: My school was given money for this charade. I wouldn’t mind that so much except, you see, STUDENTS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO BUY THEIR OWN SCHOOL BOOKS THIS YEAR. I wouldn’t mind that either, except that the administration never told us we’d have to. This is the first year anything like this has happened.
So, apparently in modern society it is nobler to pay for a single day of uninspired “multiculturalism” than for for basic educational supplies.
Thank heaven for small mercies; at least Diversity Day wasn’t tax funded.
Feb 24, 2009 - 12:56 pm 48. Hugh:Dear Lady: the British people are confused and bewildered by their fall from the heavens.They have consumed the narcotic of forgetfullness to assuage the deep wound of loss…not just Empire but, I suspect , the ennui that decends upon a people who are still culturally respected but also peered-at, as if on display in a mausoleum…”quaint, merry olde England.” Recall, they got “here” before we did…they were ALREADY famous , we are just seeing ourselves as such, now (there’s a profound lesson here , but not to be “taught” at this moment ). The moment you should really fear is when the insufferably arrogant ( they want to run the world and cannot even install a working toilet ) Islamokultists elbow the old British dude in the head and….get a sgian dubh lodged firmly in their unholy neck. The hysterical Arab cultists are pushing for a reaction they think they can handle. They publish what?? some twenty odd books a year in all of Islam?? They would be well advised to study real Western history – it is a history of argumentative discourse and …..war.
Feb 24, 2009 - 1:12 pm 49. Kevin White:The Islamic worldview holds that the kingdom of God is upon Earth, and the goal of Islam is to establish God’s order on Earth. Islamic law, as codified in the Shari ‘a, establishes a complete system of life incorporate every facet of human existence – social, religious, legal, economic, and political.
The Islamic worldview is to essentially establish the reign of Allah upon Earth. This mandate provides not only the moral justification, but even the religious responsibility of believers to use whatever means, including political and military force, to bring about God’s reign on Earth.
Herein we see the contrast of mission between Christianity and Islam. Christians preach the gospel of Christ to prepare people for God’s reign in the next life, while the mission of the Muslim is to establish God’s reign in this life. For the Christian, evangelism calls one to lay down their lives for the next world. For Muslims, the call is to lay down their lives for the kingdom of God in this world.
The mission of Christianity is to surrender ones life in this world and live in the kingdom of Heaven. The mission of Islam is to surrender one’s life to establish the kingdom of God here on Earth; to implement a theocracy. While Jesus taught his disciples to bless and pray for their enemies, Islam justifies war to kill the enemies of the reign of God.
While Jesus serves as the model for Christians, Mohammad serves as the model for Muslims. While Jesus was a suffering servant, who said his kingdom was not of this world; Mohammad was a teacher, warrior, and statesman who sought to establish a theocracy on Earth. While Jesus taught to strive to enter the straight and narrow way, Mohammad taught “jihad” which means striving for the advance of Islam. Jesus called his followers to turn the other cheek; Mohammad called his followers to use force to advance Islam.
Feb 24, 2009 - 2:07 pm 50. Jillian:He is absolutely right and dealing with the threat begins with recognizing that far from being a religion ,Islam is a political agenda that espouses a very low threshold of violence to promote its ends.Far more so than communism ever did.It is where Catholicism was prior to the Crusades and the Inquisition and unless we do a better job of confronting and defeating it than Europe manged we can look forward to regression into the Dark Ages
Feb 24, 2009 - 2:13 pm 51. Mike:These great anti-jihadists – most of whom we have never heard of nor seen any of their work – this is part of the problem.
Can you share their works, links to it, or is it of a secretive nature? Why aren’t these folks on tv, in front of politicians, everywhere that CAIR and their ilk show up to promote Islam?
The anti-jihad, as great as it might be, needs to step up its game and become more visible if it wants to have an impact.
At this point the jihad is winning by a landslide.
Feb 24, 2009 - 2:24 pm 52. Judy, NYC:You will find all of Geert Wilders interviews and lectures on youtube. He is the most articulate defender of western civilization we have today. Mr. Wilder’s bravery is quite apparent and I guarantee you will be more courageous after hearing him speak. Also, more hopeful that we can push back against this onslaught from Islam. It would help our republic and western democracies everywhere to have an American President who wasn’t a cowering nincompoop.
Feb 24, 2009 - 3:43 pm 53. Adriana Stuijt:I am a Dutch journalist, writing for Digital Journal.com in Canada. I noticed a request for information where one could donate to his legal-defence fund. It’s easy: One can click on the Paypal button on his website, http://www.geertwilders.nl
I also noticed other comments claiming that Wilders supports neo-nazi outfits. Please note that he comes from the Dutch liberal tradition of the VVD-party, and that he split away from this party, as indeed also did that other courageous Dutch woman, Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Feb 24, 2009 - 3:49 pm 54. Mary Madigan:This whole Dark Ages meme really annoys me. It was not a Dark Age. It was an age of enlightenment. It is true that technology stagnated or was lost, but such is also learning. Science is not the only kind of learning
Before the dark ages, certain scientists knew that the world was round. Many urbanites had indoor plumbing, and even the common folk knew that it was a good idea to bathe often. They had roads, decent irrigation and chimneys.
We lost that technology for hundreds of years, and we’ve only begun to get some of it back. We don’t even know if we’ve gotten all of it back, because we don’t know what we lost. The Dark ages were proof that civilization can be lost, in some cases forever.
And chivalry was due to the influence of Arab civilization (although this may have been from pre-Islamic Arab culture) More proof that civilization can be lost.
Feb 24, 2009 - 4:32 pm 55. Alfredo:God bless Mr. Wilders for his courage and fortitude (not Allah, who is surely an Asura). Here in the US we are also asleep, and the forces of Jihad and that fascist so-called religion called Islam are gaining ground in their allegiance with the liberal left. We must wake up before it is too late. They come quietly at first, procreate big, little by little organize, sugarcoating their hateful message, usually under the banner of “Islam is a peaceful religion”. But then their CEOs behead their wives. Not a single comment about that in the CAIR web page, of course.
Feb 24, 2009 - 4:49 pm 56. Trisha2cents:We are funding their international march. We need to cut the money off now and utilize our god given resources. Why don’t Americans get it??
Feb 24, 2009 - 4:50 pm 57. kathy:#33 Bobby Stern
As Adriana #53 posted, Wilders has his own website.
International Free Press Society (IFPS) website is a good source of info too. They also have IFPS Campaign to Defend Geert Wilders that might be of interest.
From the IFPS mission statment:
“It is time to confront and reverse the forces, both internal and external, that are now arrayed against free speech, time to organize not just locally and nationally, but also globally in recognition of the common danger imperiling all free societies. The sole purpose of The International Free Press Society (IFPS) is to defend freedom of expression wherever and by whomever it is threatened.
In order to do this successfully, we must first acknowledge the special, strategic importance of the West as the singular bastion of freedom of speech and other freedoms, for it is against the West that the enemies of free speech are directing their main offensive. They do so for the obvious reason that if free speech is eradicated or even curtailed in the West, there is little hope for it anywhere else.
The stakes in this battle could not be higher. Without the right to express fearless and irreverent criticism, to pronounce ideas that are objectionable to the established order, and to debate openly everything people wish to discuss, societies will lose not only their creative verve, but also the crucial ability to identify challenges and articulate solutions. In this way, democracy, tolerance, and prosperity will give way to degeneration, tyranny, and barbarism. In short, free societies are doomed without free speech.”
Feb 24, 2009 - 4:55 pm 58. Alex:I find it interesting that any reference to Saudi Arabia is censored from this website and this thread in particular. The truth is that the source of funds for Wahhabi schools is the house of Saud.
Sad day for America, when truth is censored.
Feb 24, 2009 - 7:51 pm 59. Eric:Keep up with ALL Islamification news at Gates of Vienna http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/
Feb 24, 2009 - 9:36 pm 60. Jpeditor:A U.S. Senator, Kyl, from Arizona is “…coming under pressure from stealth jihad groups and their allies and dupes for his plan to host a showing of the film Fitna in The Capitol.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/025005.php
Please go to the link above for the brief article and Senator Kyl’s contact info, and invest 2 minutes and call his office and offer support.
We cannot let these jihadists do to us what they have done to Europe.
Feb 25, 2009 - 12:42 am 61. Jonesy55:“Dear Lady: the British people are confused and bewildered by their fall from the heavens.They have consumed the narcotic of forgetfullness to assuage the deep wound of loss…not just Empire but, I suspect , the ennui that decends upon a people who are still culturally respected but also peered-at, as if on display in a mausoleum…”quaint, merry olde England.” ”
Posting comments while drunk is not a good idea.
Feb 25, 2009 - 3:21 am 62. Jesus is Lord, A Worshipping Christian’s Blog » Blog Archive » “A Dutch Hero Comes to Warn Us, Seek Our Support. The Incomparable Geert Wilders, MP, in New York City” by Phyllis Chesler:[...] Read the rest of the article here. [...]
Feb 25, 2009 - 7:09 am 63. Watcher of Weasels » Shorting Obama:[...] Submitted By: Right Truth – Chesler Chronicles at Pajamas Media – A Dutch Hero Comes to Warn Us, Seek Our Support. The Incomparable Geert Wilders, MP, in New York Cit… [...]
Feb 25, 2009 - 11:43 am 64. Bobby Stern:#’s 53 and 57 Adriana and Kathy, Thanks for this info. I will be passing it on to my subscribers as well as making my own donation.
Thanks again,
Bobby
Feb 25, 2009 - 12:03 pm 65. Cheat Seeking Missiles » Wednesday Reading - “Live With Your Vote”:[...] Submitted By: Right Truth – Chesler Chronicles at Pajamas Media – A Dutch Hero Comes to Warn Us, Seek Our Support. The Incomparable Geert Wilders, MP, in New York Cit… [...]
Feb 25, 2009 - 1:21 pm 66. deguello:Jonessy 55.RE#61,The lady might be drunk,but at least she is still alive unlike England,which like most of europe, is nothing but a mausoleum for an exhausted,morally dead civilization content to serve as a pc Disneyland for intellectually pretentious tourists,and a haven muslim terrorists.
Feb 25, 2009 - 3:31 pm 67. Today’s Wilders Round-Up « Defend Geert Wilders:[...] Chesler Chronicles
Feb 25, 2009 - 9:17 pm 68. Max Friedman:I have to ask: “Why does it take a friendly foreigner to remind Americans what freedom is all about? Why have our leaders and educational institutions failed to teach our children what America is all about – freedom. Freedom for ourselves, freedom for the world, freedom for the concept of free thought, free opportunity, free practice of peaceful religions, free enterprise, and the old “Four Freedoms”, esp. freedom from Want and Fear.
Wilders is the Tom Paine of today. I hope the we listen to him and hear what he has to say, just as our forefathers did in the 1770’s.
Feb 25, 2009 - 11:45 pm 69. Jonesy55:Of course it is Deguello, of course it is, because you say so.
Feb 26, 2009 - 1:18 am 70. cat:thank you for this most informative article.
Feb 26, 2009 - 12:17 pm 71. Mary Jackson:I will be sending a check to the Hudson FOundation
Perhaps there’s little point in writing this, but I’ll write it anyway: “the British people” is not the same as “the British government”. Otherwise, to be logical and consistent, “Americans” would be the same as Obama. Mysteriously, Americans are allowed to be individuals who dissent, at times, from Obama, Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore, the Huffington Post, the New York Times etc. But “the British” apparently all speak with one voice: the voice of The Guardian and New Labour.
If readers’ comments are anything to go by – even at The Guardian – public opinion was dead against the outrageous banning of Geert Wilders.
Feb 26, 2009 - 2:57 pm 72. foRRever:I agre with thes people when they say . . .
#3. George Jochnowitz . . . There are only two systems of belief nowadays that are accepted with blind faith: Marxism and Islam.
#41 Lynn S . . . I’m telling you that the Bible accurately portrays the history of a people both good and evil, right and wrong, no sugar coating, no excuses.
#43. Fantom . . . I would have no problem with banning the koran . . . Is is hardly debatable that the koran is a weapon of mass destruction. Therefore common sense restrictions on it’s ownership and use are called for.
#58 Alex . . . I find it interesting that any reference to Saudi Arabia is censored from this website and this thread in particular.
#66 deguello . . . The lady might be drunk,but at least she is still alive unlike England,which like most of europe, is nothing but a mausoleum for an exhausted,morally dead civilization content to serve as a pc Disneyland for intellectually pretentious tourists,and a haven muslim terrorists.
#57 Kathy . . . Without the right to express fearless and irreverent criticism, to pronounce ideas that are objectionable to the established order, and to debate openly everything people wish to discuss, societies will lose not only their creative verve, but also the crucial ability to identify challenges and articulate solutions.
Like that.
Feb 26, 2009 - 7:16 pm 73. TalkinKamel:Mary, a lot of western countries have had running water for years, honest! Some of them even have toothbrushes, too!
As for chivalry, it was born of a combination of Christianity, and the old, pagan warrior spirit, heavily influenced by the Crusader kingdoms, where courtly love arose, in response to the situation where many noble ladies had to handle their husband’s castles and estates, while the latter were off fighting the Saracens, or in prison, awaiting ransom. Islam, with its institutionalized contempt for women had little to do with it. (Sufism did have a lot of romance—about beautiful boys). Certainly, Mohammed himself was not chivalrous, and evidenced great contempt for women throughout his life. He ordered one poetess murdered in front of her children, and another old woman to be pulled apart by camels.
Chivalrous, he most certainly was not.
Oh, yes, and a lot of people in the Middle-Ages knew the world was round. What’s more, they knew a hawk from a handsaw, as Shakespeare would say. And, speaking of the Bard, they also had a rich, musical and dramatic culture, which eventually produced Shakespeare, and great world literature. Where is Islam’s Renaissance? It’s Shakespeare? Its great plays? Its music? Its art?
Feb 27, 2009 - 8:01 am 74. TalkinKamel:Mary Madigan, you’re also forgetting the Byzantine empire, and the fact that the Middle-East was a great center of culture and learning before the Islamic invasion. The Assyrians were great scientists and scholars, there was the great library of Antioch, and the afore-mentioned Byzantines, who were actually the ones carrying on Greek culture at the moment.
All that was lost with the Islamic invasion—yes, it’s interesting how civilizations can be lost. Not to mention the destruction of Hindu culture by Islam. The Hindus were highly advanced, and cultured, but no one ever seems to remember this though. We can all blather, however, about Islam’s “Golden Age”, and how wonderfully superior it was.
As Islam killed, or forced the original people of the Middle-East to convert, the area stagnated. Then, the conquering Moslems turned their attention to the barbarians in the west. They thought it would be an easy conquest, but, by Allah, those barbarians would not submit! Didn’t they know that their Islamic masters had the right to rule them?
Feb 27, 2009 - 8:08 am 75. Watcher of Weasels » Islamic Rage Boy Meets Political Correctness:[...] Third place with 1 1/3 points – Chesler Chronicles at Pajamas Media – A Dutch Hero Comes to Warn Us, Seek Our Support. The Incomparable Geert Wilders, MP, in New York Cit… [...]
Feb 27, 2009 - 12:04 pm 76. Cheat Seeking Missiles » A Video Winner At Watcher!:[...] analysis of more horrors from Islam, followed by Chesler Chronicles at Pajamas Media’s A Dutch Hero Comes to Warn Us, Seek Our Support. The Incomparable Geert Wilders, MP, in New York Cit… … hmmm, another post on the horrors of [...]
Feb 27, 2009 - 1:38 pm 77. Pat J:Geert Wilders is a racist and an Islamaphobe. He’s also a hypocrite. He’s all in favor of “free speech,” yet has no problem with banning the Koran.
Mar 2, 2009 - 1:48 pm 78. Redman:While we are talking about crazies in Islam, lets not forget whole bunch of Crazy right wing Evangelical Christians here. There is no difference between those Islamic nuts and those bible thumpers here. We will have a whole bunch of Timothy Mcvays and many other right wing tools that will make life very interesting in the coming years, not that we have a black president. Did I mention that David Duke and his KKKlowns also call them Conservative Christians ?
Mar 2, 2009 - 8:52 pm 79. Daily Blogger - Thursday, March 5th, 2009 | Jack’s Newswatch:[...] a mood of intolerance, a mood that is even affecting the West. All we have to do is look at the plight of Dutch politician Geert Wilders, who is subject to prosecution in his own country and barred from [...]
Mar 5, 2009 - 5:55 am 80. Chesler Chronicles » Will Obama Allow the Islamification of America?:[...] example, there are Rachel Ehrenfeld, Philippe Karsenty, Geert Wilders: Heroes all, about whom I have previously [...]
Mar 9, 2009 - 10:25 am 81. Chesler Chronicles » Pierre Rehov: The Lion in Exile:[...] month, I unexpectedly ran into Pierre at the Hudson Institute luncheon for Geert Wilders. There he was—as warm and as handsome as ever and, as we stood and talked, Israeli author and [...]
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